Debates of 13 Dec 2006

MR. FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER
PRAYERS 10:05 a.m.

CORRECTION OF VOTES 10:05 a.m.

AND PROCEEDINGS AND THE 10:05 a.m.

OFFICIAL REPORT 10:05 a.m.

Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:05 a.m.
Hon. Members, Votes and Proceedings of yesterday, Tuesday, 12th December, 2006. Any corrections to be made? Pages 1. . . 5, 6 . . . 18? [Pause.] In the absence of any corrections, hon. Members, we would assume that what we have in our hands in principle appear to be what indeed happened yesterday.
We also have the Official Report for

We move now to Public Business. Hon. Members, I have just been prompted to inform the House -- maybe most of us are aware -- of the death of our dear Friend, and Member of Parliament for Fomena, hon. Akwasi Afrifa. It has officially come to the notice of the Speaker, the death of that young affable man. At the appropriate time the House would be appropriately briefed but I want you to appreciate that it has now come to the notice of the Speaker.
PAPERS 10:05 a.m.

Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:05 a.m.
Special Budget Committee Chairman -
Majority Leader (Mr. F. K. Owusu-
Adjapong): Mr. Speaker, I thought we were going to start with item 4.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:05 a.m.
Laying of Papers, that is what I am saying. The estimates for the Judicial Service for the year 2007 to be laid.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:05 a.m.
Annual Budget Estimates for the Judicial Service for the year 2007. Chairman of the Committee?
By the Chairman of the Committee --
Report of the Judiciary Committee on the Annual Budget Estimates of the Judicial Service for the year
2007.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:05 a.m.
Item 4 (b), Chairman of the Committee?
Mr. Yaw Baah 10:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am a member of the Committee and with your permission, I would like to stand in for the Chairman.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:05 a.m.
Go ahead.
Mr. Yaw Baah (on behalf of the Chairman)
-- 10:05 a.m.

Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:05 a.m.
Very well, it is deferred for the moment. (d), Chairman of the Committee, that would be the Finance Committee as well. Should I stand that one down too?
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thought we had seen a copy of the report distributed so I was wondering if we should get somebody to lay it. I think I can lay it.
By the Majority Leader (on behalf of the Chairman) --
Report of the Committee on Finance on the Annual Budget Estimates of the National Development Planning Commission for the year 2007.
Mr. Adjaho 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, to begin with, who laid this Paper? The hon. Majority Leader is not a member of the Committee. He cannot lay a report on behalf of a Committee of which he is not a member. I do not know whether this matter has even been taken in committee; the information I am getting is that it has not even been considered. So Mr. Speaker -- [Inter-ruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:15 a.m.
You are opposed to that? It has already been laid.
Mr. Adjaho 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it cannot be laid by the Majority Leader, because he is not a member of the Committee. The hon. Majority Leader cannot lay this Report - [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:15 a.m.
But indeed he is a Minister as well, so what do you
Mr. Adjaho 10:15 a.m.
Yes -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I know that yesterday the Committee met on this -- [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:15 a.m.
Be it as it may, you can take your seat; the Chairman has come.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, to go back to the issue, the Majority Leader, as the Leader of the House, is capable of laying any Paper on behalf of any Committee. He is competent to lay any Paper on behalf of any Committee.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:15 a.m.
Do not let us raise any debate about this matter; the Chairman is here.
Mr. Adjaho 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, but for the record you should know that the committees are supposed to have oversight responsibility over the executive arm of Government. And the Majority Leader who is a leading member of Cabinet and who has got additional responsibility for the Ministry of Transportation is the one now laying a Paper on behalf of an oversight committee? Mr. Speaker, I believe then that this House is in real trouble.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:15 a.m.
We are not debating that. Chairman of the Committee, you are now in. Are you going to lay the Papers stated at item 4 (c) and 4 (d)?
Nii Adu Mante: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, that is so.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:15 a.m.
Very well. By the Chairman of the Committee --

Report of the Finance Committee on the Annual Budget Estimates of Statutory Payments and Other Government Obligations for the year 2007.

By the Chairman of the Committee --

Report of the Committee on Finance on the Annual Budget Estimates of the National Development Planning Commission for the year 2007.
CONSIDERATION OF ANNUAL 10:15 a.m.

ESTIMATES 10:15 a.m.

Chairman of the Special Budget Committee (Mr. Fe l ix Owusu- Adjapong) 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House approves the sum of ¢143,463,000,000 for the services of the Audit Service for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. Speaker, we received the normal note from His Excellency the President relating to the amount indicated as the one reserved for the Audit Service. We are aware that they could not get the full amount for us because we are operating within 54 per cent of the needs of the country for the 2007 year - what the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, Mr. Baah-Wiredu refers to as the “wishes”. I therefore urge hon. Members to endorse and approve the motion for the sum required. I so move.
Mr. Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu (on behalf of Vice Chairman of the Committee) 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion ably moved by the Majority Leader and Chairman of the Special Budget Committee and to present the Report on behalf of the Vice Chairman of the Committee. I crave your indulgence to request the Hansard to consider the entire Report as having been read while I read
the Observations and Recommen-dations and Conclusion only.
1.0 Introduction
The 2007 Annual Estimates of the Audit Service was referred to the Special Budget Committee for consideration and report in accordance with the 1992 Constitution and Standing Orders of the House. This was after the presentation of the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government for the year ending 31st December 2007 on 16th November, 2006 by the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, hon. Kwadwo Baah-Wiredu.
The Committee met with officials and a technical team from the Audit Service and the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning (MOFEP) and reports as follows:
2.0 Background
2.1 Reference Documents
To discharge its assigned duties, the
Committee availed itself of the following documents:
i. The 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Ghana.
ii. The Standing Orders of the House.
iii. The Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2005 and 2006 Financial Years.
iv. The Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2007 Financial Year.
2.2 Aims and Objectives of the Audit Service
The Audit Service exists to enhance accountability, probity and transparency in the utilization of all public resources for good governance on behalf of the people
of Ghana, by among other means:
i. Applying modern auditing methods that are efficient and cost-effective.
ii. Promoting economy, efficiency and effective uses of public resources by all, so that value-for-money is realized in the delivery of goods and services.
It is expected that in undertaking these activities, the Audit Service would deliver its services competently and professionally, in accordance with international auditing standards, maintain the highest standards of excellence, honesty and integrity, whilst also creating an environment for personal career development for its entire staff.
To carry out its mandate, the Audit Service has the following, among others, as its objectives for the medium to long term:
i. To improve the quality, timeliness and reliability of audit reports.
ii. To increase public access to audit reports.
iii. To promote increased accoun- tability, probity and transparency in the use of public resources based on value for money principles; and
iv. To improve the coverage of audits amongst public institutions.
3.0 2006 in Retrospect
The Committee was informed that as at the end of the first half-year of 2006, the Ghana Audit Service had completed 3,000 audits out of a total of 6,775 projected for the year 2006. These include the accounts
Mr. Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu (on behalf of Vice Chairman of the Committee) 10:25 a.m.
A total amount of ¢143.463 billion has been allocated to the Audit Service to be disbursed as follows:
Personal Emoluments -- ¢49,146,000,000.00
Administration E x p e n s e s - -
¢64,477,000,000.00
Service E x p e n s e s - -
¢11,496,000,000.00
Investment Expenses --
¢18,344,000,000.00
TOTAL -- ¢143,463,000,000.00
5.0 Observations and Recommendations
5.1 Outlook for 2007
The Audit Service will undertake the following activities:
i. Carry out 6,776 audits involving t h e a c c o u n t s o f C e n t r a l Government, District Assemblies, Pre-Univers i ty Educat ional Institutions, public Boards and Corpora-tions and the Ghana Programme of the Millennium Challenge Account.
ii. Continue with the audit of the payroll and internally generated funds of public institutions.
iii. Present the last batch of Auditor- General's Reports to Parliament and pursue the implementation of recom-mendations made by the Public Accounts Committee of Parliament.
iv. Continue with implementing the second phase of the European
Union-sponsored reform pro- gramme of the Service. In the light of this Audit Service, in collabo- ration with AFROSAI-E, will intensify staff training in Computer- Assisted Auditing Techniques (CAATS), the Interactive Data Extraction and Analysis (IDEA) software and the Audit Command Language (ACL) software.
v. Organize a workshop that will design small E-learning modules on audit and IT-related topics with the support of an INTOSAI Development Initiative (IDI) specialist.
6.0 Observations
The Commit tee observed that one problem the Audit Service faces perennially is that of delayed fund releases from the Controller and Accountant General's outfit. This tends to retard work and renders the Audit Service less efficient and effective in executing its mandate.
As in the case of the other con- stitutionally established Commissions, the Committee observed that the Audit outfit is service-oriented, rendering services that are unique and pivotal to the judicious use of State funds and other resources. The Committee therefore recommends that releases to the Audit Service be done timely to facilitate the smooth running of its operations. The Committee also recommends to the MOFEP that should it be possible during the year, the Audit Service be allocated additional funds.
The Commit tee a lso took the opportunity to commend the Audit Service for the good work it has been doing in the various MDAs, as evidenced in the work undertaken at the Accountant-General's outfit.
7.0 Conclusion
Without prejudice to the observations and recommendations made above, the Committee recommends to the House, the approval of the sum of ¢143.463 billion for the Audit Service operations for the 2007 financial year and hopes that the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning would provide additional funds for the Audit Service to effectively execute its mandate.
Respectfully submitted.

Question proposed.
Mr. Samuel Sallas-Mensah (NDC -- Upper West Akim) 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion on the floor.
Mr. Speaker, as we all know the Auditor- General is an officer of Parliament. All their work come to Parliament. They report to the Legislature and as such their work must be very important to this House. Mr. Speaker, as of now, we are trying to establish a liaison office between the Audit Service and Parliament. A secretariat is being set up under the European Union Fund to help us assist and clear all the arrears of the Auditor-General.
Mr. Speaker, over six thousand, seven hundred reports are generated by the Auditor-General in a year which is very, very voluminous. If we want to divide the amount that the Service has been given by the amount of work that they do, it comes barely to about ¢18 million per audit, which is grossly inadequate. Mr. Speaker, since the Auditor-General himself cannot do a lot of the work, he farms them out to private auditors and some of these private
Mr. Samuel Sallas-Mensah (NDC -- Upper West Akim) 10:25 a.m.
So if it is compared to the ¢18 million, on the average, for the Auditor-General, it is very inadequate. That is why in the audit report of the Auditor-General which was passed by this House about four weeks ago, we recommended that all the new institutions which have been created by law, under the Constitution, like the GETFund, the District Assemblies Common Fund, the National Identification Fund, the Road Fund, do take into consideration this new role of the Auditor- General.
With this small fund, he is forced to spread his tentacles all over these entities. That was why we recommended in that report that at least all these agencies find funds to provide for some audit service fees in their accounts so that the Auditor- General would fall upon such funds to audit their accounts. I know people are saying that it is not correct because it is against the Constitution, but the law is there and it can be amended to facilitate our work in this House.
We are thinking of setting up public hearings from next year in our committee deliberations and I am sure the public hearing has been delayed because of the new building that we are waiting for. But if it happens that this new building that we are waiting for is not ready, I would suggest and appeal to this House to allocate some funds for the public hearings to start because the public hearing would really send the message to the people that the accounts are being scrutinized in this House.
Mr. Speaker, one thing I have also realized is that the way we treat the Auditor-General's report in this House leaves much to be desired. Mr. Speaker, when it is Budget time, we devote almost

a month to budget hearing. The hon. Minister comes to this House to present his Budget with a fanfare and it is captured all over the place in the media and all that, but after a year when this money has been spent and the Auditor-General presents his report to the House and the Public Accounts Committee works on it and presents a report on how these moneys have been utilized to the House, it looks like all of us do not pay so much attention to this report.

Mr. Speaker, the 2005 Auditor- General's report has been worked on by this Committee and also the report of the Committee has been laid. Mr. Speaker, this is a very important report which must be taken before the end of this year to show that the accounts of Ghana are up- to-date. We are about to finish the 2006 account; the report would be ready by June/July next year.

So if we are lucky to have the 2005 report laid in 2006, that shows that the Auditor-General is on track and is doing his work very well. And we must complement that by adopting all the anomalies which have been reported in such reports so that by 2006, most of those anomalies would have been corrected in the subsequent years.

Mr. Speaker, on that note, I support the motion.
Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori (NPP - Asikuma/Odoben/Brakwa) 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it appears to me that in this country we do not attach weight to the work of the Auditor-General, and that is the reason why we have not been able to curb corruption in the public sector.
Mr. Speaker, one would weep for this country if one goes to the Auditor- General's Office to find that they have no
money even to rent a vehicle to go round. One would weep; and these are the people who are supposed to prevent corruption, who are supposed to detect irregularities in our Public Service, in our public accounts, for remedial action so that we can resource the prosecution of the agenda for the country. We do not attach any weight to their work. We do not give them money.
I was with them sometime ago and they complained bitterly about their money which had been withheld by the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning -- about ¢5 billion or thereabouts. I had to go there to intervene on their behalf and a promise was made that the money would be released before the end of the year. I do not know whether it has been done. But if the Auditor-General who has to prevent corruption is not given enough resources to do his job then are we serious about the fight against corruption?
I urge the hon. Finance Minister, he is here, to ensure that this year's allocation or funds to the Auditor-General are fully released -- no more tricks. The money should be released so that they can use it to do their work. If we do not do so, we should forget about national develop- ment.
Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho (NDC -- Avenor/ Ave) 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion.
Mr. Speaker, when the Constitution says that it is “a charge on the Consolidated Fund” and yet the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning does not release the money from the Consolidated Fund, what does that really mean? Is it only there? I believe that when the Constitution says that it is a charge on the Consolidated Fund, it means that once Parliament approves it, the Service must have access to that money from the Consolidated Fund.
Mr. Speaker, as has been pointed out by
hon. Appiah-Ofori, if we want to deepen accountability in this country, especially in the public sector, if we want to deepen good governance, then there are certain key governance institutions which ought to be resourced and resourced sufficiently.
One of them is the Office of the Auditor-General which is created under article 187 of the Constitution and if we understand the provisions in that Constitution, it really makes the Auditor- General fairly independent of any other authority in this country.
Therefore, when resources are approved by this honourable House and they are not released or even released timely to them to play their constitutional role, then it is as useless as not releasing them at all.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that the time has come for this House and indeed the Government to sit down to find out what exactly it means when the Constitution uses the phrase “a charge on the Consolidated Fund”, and what we have to do as a nation to make sure that we give fruition to the use of the term, “a charge on the Consolidated Fund”.
Mr. Speaker, I totally disagree with
the hon. Member for Upper West Akim who said that certain new institutions which have been created should make provision for auditor's fees. Mr. Speaker, I believe that is not a solution to the problem because if the auditor is going to be paid by the auditee, it creates room for compromise. I think that what we ought to do is to sufficiently resource the Auditor- General and his staff to undertake their constitutional res-ponsibility.
Mr. Sallas-Mensah 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am rising on a point of order because the hon. Deputy Minority Leader is misleading this House about conflict of interest -- [Interruptions] -- Mr. Speaker, if a company hires an auditor, the company determines the audit fees. So if the Auditor-General is going to audit, for example, the National Identification Authority, they will provide for an audit fee in their accounts. That does not influence the auditor in any way because companies pay their auditors anyway. You do not have the shareholders going to pay the auditors.
It is never done.
Mr. Adjaho 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not want to go into company law. I accept that he is not an expert in that field. But Mr. Speaker, the truth of the matter is that it is not for nothing that under our Companies Code, fixing of the auditors' fees is put on the agenda for resolution by shareholders of the company. It is not fixed by the managing director or anybody else in the company. It is put on the agenda and it is approved by shareholders at an Annual General Meeting. It is for a purpose. And the example that he is giving is totally different from what we find in the Companies Code; completely different. The shareholders are involved. They have to put it on the agenda at an Annual General Meeting for approval.
Mr. Speaker, the point being made is that it will not be in the interest of good governance, it will not be in the interest of fighting corruption, if the Road Fund Secretariat has to go and pay an auditor to audit their accounts. I am saying that there is a constitutional body created by the Constitution which is supposed to audit all the public accounts of this Republic; and that body has to do it.
What we have to do as a nation, with the support from this House and indeed from the Executive arm of government and
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Item 6 --
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, if we can take item 7 now and defer item 6, for a good reason.
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Very well. Hon. Minister
for Transportation, if he is here with us - Oh! The Acting Minister for Trans- portation.
ANNUAL ESTIMATES 10:35 a.m.

Alhaji Sumani Abukari 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Majority Leader himself knows that he is my very good friend. But Mr. Speaker, the President has not informed this House that he is the Acting Minister for Transportation. He has not. Officially,
he has not communicated to this House. So as far as we are concerned, he is not the Minister for Transportation. There is a procedure for communicating this to the House, and that has not been followed.
So as far as I am concerned, he is not the Acting Minister for Transportation. He, therefore, cannot present their budget.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:35 a.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the amount is made up of the following: Personal Emoluments -- [Interruption.]
Alhaji Abukari 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, you have not given your ruling on this.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:35 a.m.
I indicated to him to continue.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:35 a.m.
I have told this House and the President has informed the entire people of Ghana -- [Interruptions] -- please, please let us look at it. It appears even in today's papers -- [Interruption] -- that I am the Acting Minister for Transportation. And Mr. Speaker, we have a lot of precedents - [Interruption.]
Alhaji Abukari 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, you tried to assist him but he does not want your assistances so the proper thing should be done. If he is doing it as the Majority Leader and Minister for Parliamentary Affairs for and on behalf of the Minister for Transportation, we agree to that. But he cannot do that as the Acting Minister for Transportation. This House does not know that he is the Acting Minister for Transportation.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Well, let us not haggle over this matter. You do not need to split hairs.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:35 a.m.
I suppose I can go on.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Please, as it is, he is doing it for and on behalf of the -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think we need to be very careful about what we do here. Mr. Speaker, hon. Addo-Kufuor acted for a number of years, and the House was never informed -- [Interruptions]-- Please, the House was never informed. Ministers have been acting whenever other colleagues travel or are on leave and there has not been such a thing.
Mr. Speaker, if the House's intention is that in future they would want the President to inform them when he asks somebody to act for three days or more, that is a different matter. We should then look at our procedures and see whether there is any obligation on the part of the President to do that.
For the moment, as I said the other day when I read the Business Statement, the President has asked me to take temporary responsibility for the Ministry of Transportation. [Hear! Hear!] Mr. Speaker, the President, passionately listening to the statements made by the hon. Deputy Minority Leader, and as a listening President and therefore head of a listening government has duly issued a statement, signed by his Chief of Staff.
Now, let us make progress. If they want us to debate this matter, Leadership can take a position on the matter later on.
Mr. Speaker, Administration is ¢ 23.74 billion; Services is ¢10.49 billion; Investments from Government of Ghana is ¢890.147 billion; Investment from donors is ¢1,699.60 billion; Internally generated Funds ¢3.998 billion and others -- HIPC -- ¢25 billion, making a total of
¢2,738,787,000,000.
The Ministry of Transportation has
oversight responsibility for the road sector which comprises road infrastructure and road transport services and safety. The departments and agencies that operate under the Ministry of Transportation are: Ghana Highway Authority; Department of Feeder Roads, Department of Urban Roads, Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority (DVLA), National Road Safety Commission, Technical Training Centre, Metro Mass Transit Limited and Road Fund Secretariat.

Mr. Speaker, the total planned budget

for the transportation sector for 2007 is ¢6,911.48 billion. This compared to the recommended budget which is to be approved by Parliament is ¢3,852.57 billion which is only 55.74 per cent of their requirement. This means that we should anticipate a shortfall.

Therefore, when my hon. Colleagues are making requests, as to when their roads will be tarred, when they will be rehabilitated, they should take note of the fact that there is a shortfall of approximately 44 per cent.

Mr. Speaker, even though this amount is not enough, I hope and pray that my Colleague, the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, should he have an opportunity to prepare a supplemen- tary budget would look at it so that my Colleagues would be satisfied as to the number of roads and projects that are to be undertaken in their constituencies.

Mr. Speaker, with this short statement, I urge all hon. Members to wholly support this motion and also endorse our plea that at any opportune time, more money should be given to the Ministry of Transportation to enable us undertake more roads.

Chairman of the Committee (Mr.

S. K. Obodai): Mr. Speaker, I beg to
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:45 a.m.


second the motion and in doing so, I wish to present the Committee's Report.

1.0 Introduction

1.1 The Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2007 financial year was presented to Parliament by the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, hon. Kwadwo Baah-Wiredu on Thursday, 16th November 2006 in accordance with article 179 (1) of the 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Ghana.

Pursuant to Orders 140 (4) and 189 of the Standing Orders of the House, the Committee on Roads and Transport was charged to consider and report to the House, the Annual Budget Estimates of the Ministry of Transportation.

1.2 The Deputy Minister, hon. Magnus E. Opare-Asamoah, accompanied by officials of the Ministry of Transportation, Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning (MOFEP) and the underlisted Departments and Agencies under the purview of the Ministry, attended the Committee's sitting to provide further clarifications on the Estimates:

a. Ghana Highway Authority (GHA)

b. Department of Feeder Roads

(DFR)

c. Department of Urban Roads (DUR)

d. Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority (DVLA)

e. Government Technical Training Centre (GTTC)

f. National Road Safety Commission

(NRSC)

The Committee is grateful to all the above-mentioned officials for their assistance in its deliberations.

2.0 Reference Documents

The Committee made reference to the following documents in its deliberations:

a. The 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Ghana.

b. The Standing Orders of Parliament.

c. The Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2007 financial year.

d. Report of the Committee on Roads and Transport on the 2006 Annual Budget Estimates of the Ministry of Transportation.

e. A Presentation by the Deputy Minister for Transportation on the Review for the 2006 Budget and Performance of the Ministry of Transportation and the 2007 Annual Budget Estimates.

3.0 Mission Statement of the Ministry of Transportation

The mission of the Ministry of

Transportation is to ensure the provision of an integrated, well-managed and sustainable transport infrastructure and services that meet national and international standards through:

a. The formulation and implementation of policies that are responsive to the changing needs of the nation.

b. The promotion of Private Sector Participation.

c. Developing, implementing, moni- toring and regulating standards.

d. Carrying out strategic investments so as to establish safe, reliable, efficient and affordable services for

all transport users.

4.0 Objectives of the Ministry

The Ministry of Transportation has set for itself, the underlisted objectives in an effort to achieve its stated mission:

i. To provide transport infrastructure and services at a minimum cost throughout the country for accelerated economic growth, especially in the agricultural, industrial, trade and services sectors whilst ensuring cost- recovery.

ii. To review existing and develop new policies, regulations and laws that conform to changing trends and needs of the transport infras- tructure and services of the country.

iii. To develop and implement an equitable and integrated transport network programme in support of socio-economic development of the country.

iv. To strengthen the institutional capacities in the management of the transport system in the country.

v. To institute standards to ensure safety, reliability and efficiency of the transport system to meet national and international requirements.

vi. To ensure sustainable funding of road transport sector programmes.

vii. To progressively improve transport infrastructure and services in the deprived areas to reduce the incidence of poverty.

viii. To identify and institute measures which provide private sector participation in the transport sector.

5.0 Review of 2006 Budget and Performance of the Ministry

5.1 For the year under review, the Ministry of Transportation was allocated a sum of three trillion, six hundred and sixty-five billion, eight hundred and forty- four million cedis (¢3,665,844,000,000) to cater for its services.

An additional amount of eight hundred and sixty-eight billion, eight-hundred and seventy million cedis (¢868,870,000,000) was again allocated to the Ministry for specific road projects in the 2006 Supplementary Budget. The breakdown of this amount is as follows:

¢

GHA -- 601,200,000,000
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T O T A L 10:45 a.m.

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Mr. Kenneth Dzirasah (NDC -- South Tongu) 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to raise two issues for the consideration of the hon. Minister.
Mr. Speaker, the first issue I would like to raise has to do with the administration of the Road Fund and the source from which it is generated. Mr. Speaker, it has to do with the toll booths that we have at various locations on our main roads. I have observed because I also have one of the toll booths in my constituency and that is across the Lower Volta Bridge at Sogakofe.
Mr. Speaker, at regular intervals, the management of those toll booths changes hands. At times, they go under the management of private contractors and at times they move to caretakership by the Ghana Highway Authority staff. Mr. Speaker, I really do not understand why that is happening. Probably, the hon. Minister may do well to explain to us.
This is because if we have the Ghana Highway Authority staff all over the country and they are in their various regional and district offices not constructing roads, at least, the caretakership of these toll booths must be given to them. They are in their various district offices idling about. And yet they are paid their salaries and we hire private contractors to manage the toll booths for
us; we need some explanation for this.

Mr. Speaker, the next issue has to do with the management of the ferry that runs from Ada to Akuse. This ferry is still under the management of the Minister for Transportation. I think that now that we have a Ministry for Harbours and Railways and that Ministry is assuming direct responsibility for safety on our water bodies, it stands to reason that we should now assign the responsibility of caretakership or management of our ferry craft on our water bodies to that Ministry, and in that way, the ferry craft can be better taken care of.

Mr. Speaker, I am saying this because time and again, I have personally appealed to the hon. Minister for Transportation to look at the possibility of fixing economic fares for the cartage of goods and human beings on the River Volta so that the service can be maintained -- and it would be maintained continuously.

Mr. Speaker, because the amount or the fare that is being charged on such river crafts are so low, the Highway Authority that is responsible for the management of these river crafts invariably are unable to maintain them and therefore their services are so irregular. I think that in tune with economic reality there is the need to charge that which is very reasonable to enable the Authority to maintain these ferries so that we can have continued and uninterrupted services on the River Volta.
Mr. Joseph Boahen Aidoo (NPP -- Amenfi East) 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, your Committee informs us that the allocation to the Department of Feeder Roads, Department of Urban Roads and Ghana Highway Authority fell short of the
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Mr. John Gyetuah (NDC Amenfi West) 10:55 a.m.
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to the motion on floor.
Mr. Speaker, it is an indisputable fact that the road sector is very crucial as far as the infrastructural development of this country is concerned. Mr. Speaker, I was indeed glad when the Budget Statement for the financial year, 2007 captured on page 81, paragraph 331 that the Government would embark on the tarring of selected roads in most cocoa growing areas whilst solar lighting systems would be provided in some of the villages.
This is aimed at improving the standard of living of farmers. The Government, through the Ghana Cocoa Board has embarked on a $50 million programme. Mr. Speaker, my worry is that the actuals in the Budget were not submitted to the Committee as to what roads would be tarred in the cocoa producing areas.
Mr. Speaker, there are a lot of disparities in the allocation of resources as far as the tarrying of feeder roads is concerned. When you look at the diary which was given to Members of this Select Committee on 2006, it is clearly stated that as at 30th September, 2005, 224 kilometres of feeder roads in the Greater Accra Region had been tarred. In the Central Region, 480 kilometres of feeder roads had been tarred; and in the Western Region, 56 kilometres of feeder roads had been tarred. In Ashanti Region, 209 kilometres of feeder roads had been tarred whilst in the Volta Region, 129 kilometres of the feeder roads had been tarred. In the
Eastern Region, 224 kilometres of feeder roads had been tarred whilst in the Upper West Region 16 kilometres of feeder roads had been tarred -- [Interruptions] -- Upper East Region, 7 kilometres had been tarred and in the Brong Ahafo Region, 66 kilometres of feeder roads had been tarred.
Mr. Kwadwo Agyei-Addo 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, on a point of order. Mr. Speaker, it is interesting the way the hon. Member on the floor is coming out with figures. May we know the source of his figures because he cannot, as it were, concoct or fabricate statements --[Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 10:55 a.m.
Hon. Member, you are out of order.
Mr. Gyetuah 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you very much for ruling him out. The hon. Member himself is aware and it is in the diary that I am holding - The hon. Member should come for it and look at the information; everything is in this diary.
Mr. Speaker, when you look at the resources that actually come from the Western Region, the region produces 65 per cent of the country's cocoa.
The region is endowed with so many natural resources but we are relegated to the background. Mr. Speaker, I cannot count on a single 30 kilometre of feeder road that is tarred in the Amenfi West constituency or the whole district; but it is the third largest producer of cocoa in this country.

Mr. Speaker, when you go to Samreboi right now, from Prestea to Samreboi, the road is inaccessible. The road is in a very deplorable state; cars have actually ceased going to that area. Mr. Speaker, it is very sad. Samreboi of all places -- In the olden days, the AT & P Company there was the biggest company in the whole of West Africa. Now the road from Samaters to Samreboi is very bad. Not even one culvert is made of concrete; they are all wooden culverts which are being maintained at the magnanimity of Samaters Timber Company Limited.

Mr. Speaker, I believe that it is about time that Western Region was given special attention. Because when you look at the resources that come from the Western Region, they are actually not commensurate with the sort of development that goes on in the area.

On this note, I believe that the best comes from the Western Region and the worst goes to the Western Region. So it is about time that Western Region was taken seriously and the road problems over there addressed so that in the final analysis we would all see a better Western Region than it is now.
Mr B. D. K. Adu (NPP -- Okere) 11:05 a.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the oppor- tunity to contribute to the motion -- [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:05 a.m.
Hon. Members, I believe you should be brief, because we have a lot of motions to go through.
Mr. B. D. K. Adu 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the worry on these roads are about how

Colleague is clearly misleading this House. He knows that yes, indeed, we have many more mileage of feeder roads than highways. But the works do not ensure to the same. Of course, the specifications and everything are not the same, so if he says that there is greater allocation to highways than feeder roads and for that matter there is an injustice, as he is alluding to, it is neither here nor there.

Mr. Speaker, he is clearly wrong, he is misleading this country.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:05 a.m.
Yes, hon. Collins Dauda, for your information the specifications are different. Resources for those particular roads -- that for Highways is different and that for the feeder roads may also be different. So you are all wrong.
Alhaji Dauda 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I just said that we have more feeder roads than highways, which he has conceded. My hon. Friend from Magazine knows, and he has conceded, that we have more feeder roads than highways; and I am saying that in terms of the allocation one would have thought it could have been skewed that way; Mr. Speaker, these feeder roads open up this country and indeed they link up with the areas where we want our food to come from.
Therefore, if we allocate more resources to the improvement and the development of feeder roads, I believe that it will promote, if not anything, the agricultural sector of this country. And I believe that
if we are lucky and we have more roads linking up these agricultural areas, we will end up promoting agriculture and improving income levels of most of the people in this country and therefore practically deal with the poverty in this country.
It is in this regard that I think it is important that we take a second look at the allocation of the Road Fund. At least, for once, let us give more resources to the feeder road sector so that most of us here will benefit by way of having our roads rehabilitated for us.
Mr. Oppong-Kusi 11:15 a.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member on the other side continues to mis-educate the public on this issue. Mr. Speaker, feeder roads are roads that feed into the main roads. This is something we should all be very clear about. I cannot imagine that when all the feeder roads are improved - To use another word, they would feed into a main road which is impassable - Mr. Speaker, I do not know where our exports will go to.
So he must understand that there is no way that the budget allocation for feeder roads would be higher than highways. He ought to understand the mechanisms of our transport system - how they link with and lead into each other.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:15 a.m.
You have explained that to him but he is still on his point. So let him express his opinion.
Alhaji Dauda 11:15 a.m.
I noticed that he was
Alhaji Dauda 11:15 a.m.


contracts are abandoned -- contracts are awarded, the projects start and within a short time the contract is abandoned and the contractor is nowhere to be seen. One would ask: why are all these happening? Are the contractors not being paid? Or are they not being encouraged to continue with the work which they have been awarded? Or are those being given the contract not efficient?

I therefore wish to appeal to the Ministry of Transportation to see to it that those who are awarded contracts are efficient, and also contracts should be awarded when money is available. We cannot award contracts all over and the contracts are not completed. It does not argur well for us.

It is not very good to accelerate development. A typical contract which has been abandoned is in my constituency, Okrakwadjo. For three years, they have left the project and the contractor is nowhere to be found. So on this note, the Ministry should make it a point that whatever kilometre is given, the contractor should be paid periodically so that the contract can go on. If they do not have the money, they should talk to the banks to help the contractors so that they can get the jobs finished.

Mr. Speaker, I would not also do a service to the Ministry of Transportation without expressing the gratitude of the people of Akuapem to the Government for the wonderful road which is being built in my constituency, Okere Akuapem and then Akuapim as a whole.

Mr. Speaker, on this note, I support the motion on the floor.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:15 a.m.
I will take two more contributions. Hon. Dauda and hon Deputy Minister for Justice and Attorney-General. Yes, hon. Dauda first.
Alhaji Collins Dauda (NDC -- Asutifi South) 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support this motion and to say that we are privileged as Members of Parliament to have the Minister for Parliamentary Affairs acting as the Minister for Transportation. We have always raised the issue of the deplorable situation on our roads, on the floor of this Parliament. And in view of the fact that he is now in charge of this sector, being very close to us, we hope that good things will happen in 2007 in terms of roads in our constituencies.
Mr. Speaker, I am worried about Table 5 on page 12 of the Committee's Report; and that has to do with the allocation of the Road Fund to MDAs. Mr. Speaker, in that table Ghana Highway Authority is allocated ¢365.9 billion; Department of Feeder Roads, ¢324.8 billion; Department of Urban Roads, ¢329.1 billion.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:15 a.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:15 a.m.
You have less than a minute to wind up. Concentrate on that.
Alhaji Dauda 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, there are
several roads - I remember when your Committee travelled around this country to inspect some roads, it reported that most of the contracts given out had been abandoned.
Mr. Speaker, it is a worrying situation that has to be rectified. I cannot understand why a contract should be awarded to a contractor, he abandons it and we cannot find where he is - we do not know whether he has returned the mobilization fund that was given to him.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that in any contract there is a provision for addressing such situations. If a contractor abandons the project for a period of time and has taken government money, there is a way of dealing with the situation. We have not heard anything. I believe that if we begin to address the situation that way, at least, it will ensure discipline in the road sector, particularly among the contractors. I think that if that is done it will help solve the problem of contractors abandoning road contracts in the country.
But the contractors also say that they lack capacity because of the numerous impediments that the Ministry puts in their way. So I would call on the Ministry to kind of look at some of the impediments they put in their way; if they are not being paid properly and timely, they should look at that issue so that the capacity of our contractors would be developed, and they would not abandon our roads.
Deputy Attorney-General and
Minister for Justice (Mr. Kwame Osei- Prempeh) 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion and to add my voice to the call on the House to support the Ministry's allocation.
Mr. Speaker, I just want to make two observations. One of them is on the quality of roads done in this country, especially the feeder roads. Mr. Speaker, one might see that a road is being tarred and within one year, one passes by again and the road has gone bad. Mr. Speaker, one wonders what kind of contract the Ministry signs with the contractors.
I believe that with any road contract there should be a guaranteed period. Mr. Speaker, just now the road from Kumasi to Mampong has caved in at the Mampong Scarp. It is a first class road but the contractors who built the road, I am told, were negligent at some point and therefore the whole road has caved in making it impassable now.
Mr. Speaker, from the engineer's estimates, it is going to cost this nation billions of cedis. One wonders whether in the contract anything was put in so that the road which was expected to have lasted fifty years but has caved in within ten years, whether we are going to get anything to compensate this nation. Otherwise, we lose, Mr. Speaker.
I believe that it is high time the Ministry looked at the agreements they sign with road contractors and let us get guaranteed periods so that if the roads do not last, the contractors could be called back to either redo them or compensate the nation.
Mr. Speaker, my second point is on DVLA. From my observation, the issuing of the DVLA roadworthiness certificate is just a revenue generation mechanism. They do not test any vehicle which go there. People go there and within thirty minutes or one hour they get the road-
worthiness certificate.
Mr. Speaker, most of the accidents which occur on our roads are due to bad vehicles on the roads. I believe that we have to look at the best practices elsewhere. In other jurisdictions what happens is that this is sold out to private garages so that they go there and get the MOT - every year they go there to renew it.
Mr. Speaker, this is what should be done. As things stand now, the DVLA is doing no work in checking vehicles and I believe that in this very House we have said this very thing several times. It is high time the Ministry moved forward so that DVLA privatizes the vehicle inspection unit to private Garages.
This can even be resourced by Government so that they can do better work for us. Otherwise, all attempts to push money into roads and the safety committees and others will be money being thrown into the gutter. I believe the right thing must be done.
Mr. E. D. K. Adjaho (NDC - Avenor/ Ave) 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to make some quick points. Mr. Speaker, if you look at page 11 of the Committee's Report, we are told in Table 4 that GOG, for investment activities -- is about one trillion cedis and that of donors for investment activities is ¢1.6 trillion. This at a glance tells us that our investment activity, as far as that Ministry is concerned, is donor-driven. And when the money does not come then we are in trouble.
Mr. Speaker, it may be recalled that during the early part of this year we got the hon. Minister for Roads and Transport to come and answer questions as to why up to now we have not started work on the Sogakope-Aflao road and indeed the Akatsi-Kpepe road. We were told that there were certain difficulties that they had
cleared and the fund was supposed to come from African Development Bank; and the Minister said work would start in October.
Mr. Speaker, as I am talking to you now, work has not started. You cannot see any visible sign on the road between Sogakope and Aflao and you cannot see any visible sign from Akatsi to Kpepe.
Mr. Speaker, we give resources to Ministries so that they can deliver on the programmes and activities that they put in the financial and economic policy for the year. When they come to the floor of the House and give certain assurances to this honourable House that work would start and work does not start, then we should ask ourselves -- do we continue giving money to those Ministries whereas they will not deliver what they promise to do?
Mr. Speaker, another point I want to raise is with regard to the investment activity of the Ministry. If you look at Table 3, out of the donor component of ¢1.6 trillion we are told that ¢601 billion is going to be used for general administration. Unless the general administration means something different from what we understand it to mean, then we want to find out why administration is going to take ¢601 billion out of the ¢1.6 trillion of investment activity.
What type of general administration are they talking about? Is it the administration that we normally know or it is a different type of administration that we are going to use ¢601 billion of donor funds to fund, whilst investment is taking the difference of about one trillion cedis? What goes into general administration even though it has been captured under investment activities of donor funding?
I think that we need an explanation to be very clear in our minds. That is why I am talking about Table 3 at page 11 now,
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:15 a.m.
The hon. Deputy Minority Leader says he will not vote unless you explain certain issues relating to the sum of ¢601 billion. Could you react to that?
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague, the hon. Deputy Minister for Transportation and Member of Parliament for Akuapem South will start the winding-up and at the appropriate time I may come in.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:25 a.m.
Very well. He is the Deputy Minister for that sector; maybe his explanation will be more convincing. Why not go ahead.
Deputy Minister for Transportation
(Mr. M. E. Opare-Asamoah): Mr. Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to wind up on this motion.
I would want to thank hon. Members for their contributions. For the questions that they have asked, I am going to answer some of them and the rest we will take them on board during the year.
An hon. Member asked about the eastern corridor, that is the Jasikan- Kulungugu road which I agree is shorter, if you are travelling to Tamale, by a distance of about 105 kilometres. I have had the opportunity of using that road myself and it is true. The road from Nkwanta is very bad and the Ministry has put together a programme and we are looking for money to do, not only the eastern corridor but also the western corridor as well, so that the central corridor that passes through Tamale and Paga would have reduced traffic so that we can sort of conserve that road for a long period.
He also asked about the seven kilometres missing link which is now about to start. The reason for that missing link was that originally that road was awarded to PW Ghanem and a portion was also awarded to Top Construction. Unfortunately, PW Ghanem stopped short of seven kilometres; in fact, they abandoned the project at that point. So that accounts for the difference of seven kilometres which the Ministry has now
taken up and has a contractor on it to complete that missing link.
There was also an issue about toll booths. The Ministry has a programme to install toll booths on most of the roads that we have now constructed. There is a proposal to Cabinet and as soon as this is through it will come to Parliament for approval so that we can charge tolls on these roads.
Fares on river transport -- Currently, we are looking into this and we are putting a proposal together to Cabinet for approval of a new fare so that we will be able to maintain the crafts on these rivers so that they can provide efficient services for commuters.
Payment of compensation as a result of shortfall in Budget -- Normally, we pay compensation to acquire the road corridor so whatever moneys we have we use it to pay 50 per cent of the compensation before the road works start so that by the time the road is completed we would have money to pay compensation. But that also means that if there should be any supplementary budget, hon. Members would assist by approving the supple-mentary budget so that we can build more roads.
Dependence on external donor support -- This is something that we cannot do away with. We are gradually reducing our overdependence on external donor support but while it lasts, we will continue to do that until we are able to fund our projects ourselves.
Mr. Speaker, on cocoa roads in the Western Region -- I am glad that the hon. Member alluded to the fact that Cocoa Marketing Board has given us $50 million to upgrade roads in cocoa growing areas, Western Region inclusive.
Mr. Speaker, we are compiling the list and I can assure him that most of the roads are in the Western Region, so he
should rest assured that this time around Western Region would have its fair share of upgraded feeder roads in the area.
Mr. Speaker, I also want to talk about abandoned contracts observed during the tour by the Select Committee on Roads and Transport. Mr. Speaker, this is a worrying development. The Ministry is looking into this to find out why this has become a regular occurrence. Some problems have been identified -- one of these is contractor capacity; another is finance -- one of payment, and a section of roads that are given to contractors -- mostly 5 kilometres, 10 kilometres.
So you find that, as we move to the north, for example, in terms of mobilization it becomes difficult for a contractor to move up just to do five kilometres of road. So we are repackaging these roads into bigger mileages like 20 kilometres and above so that it will be attractive for contractors to go and work on these roads.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to end here and thank, once again, hon. Members for their support in approving - [Interruption]-- Sorry, we will answer that in due course. Yes.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:25 a.m.
Hon.
Member, speak to the Chair and refrain from conversing with colleagues.
Mr. Opare-Asamoah 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, on that note, I would want to leave my hon. Acting Minister to finish with the winding up.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I just had a discussion with my hon. Colleague, the Deputy Minority Leader. I have checked and this figure was never picked from the Ministry. I have checked with the Chairman of the Committee; it was rather a figure given by the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning. My people are surprised at this breakdown
Mr. Adjaho 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in principle,
I have no problem in approving the Ministry's Budget because we have to approve it for them to do their work. Mr. Speaker, we all want good roads. But Mr. Speaker, when we get such a big figure and we are told that it is the Committee which should be held responsible -- [Interruption] -- I think that it is important for your Committee on Finance to tell us how they got the ¢601 billion.
Maybe they will have an explanation so that we will all be clear in our minds as to what exactly that ¢601 billion is supposed to do. Then we can approve it. Otherwise, we will put ourselves in a very difficult situation in approving some amount we are not too sure of. I am not imputing any improper motives but we need to know
what the ¢601 billion is -- because they went into committee -- and why they included that figure that the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning is not aware of.
rose
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:25 a.m.
Chairman
of the Committee, do you want to come to that?
Mr. Obodai 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, actually
when we had the ¢1,699,605,000,000 we asked for the breakdown from the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning. So it was the Ministry which brought this breakdown to us and not the Ministry of Transportation.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
I believe this is an extraneous information that should not have been in the Report. Because normally, when the donors bring funds they virtually monitor on daily basis.
For instance, when I asked him about the Sogakope-Akatsi road, the infor- mation he gave me was that because we do the procurement procedure jointly with them when the first bid came -- The lowest bidder, they had some problem with him and therefore they have called for a withdrawal, and now a new person is being considered.
So it is not a type of area where the money is being brought to the Ministry for anybody to take a big chunk like this and say it is for general administration. Therefore, I would want to suggest that it should be ignored. But in fairness to the House, I said after approving, tomorrow I would check up with my hon. Colleague Minister for Finance and Economic Planning because they should be able to confirm who gave the information in the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning.
Was it a person authorized to do so? Is he a person with access to information?
Mr. Adjaho 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, as a
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:25 a.m.
I think that is fair enough.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved:
That this honourable House approves the sum of ¢2,738,787,000,000 being the total budgetary allocation for the Ministry of Transportation for the financial year ending 31st December, 2007.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:25 a.m.
Item 8 - Minister for National Security.
ANNUAL ESTIMATES 11:35 a.m.

Minister for National Security (Mr. Francis Poku) 11:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would wish to vary the figure on the Order Paper. The Order Paper indicates ¢366,910,000,000 for the services of the Ministry. The confirmed figure actually is ¢366,666,- 000,000. So with your permission and in my presentation I would want to use the confirmed figure which is actually a lower figure.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House approves the sum of
¢366,666,000,000 for the services of the Ministry for National Security for the 2007 fiscal year.
This is enable the departments under the Ministry to perform their various statutory functions. The departments are the National Security Council Secretariat, the Internal Security Service, which is the Bureau of National Investigations (BNI), and the Research Department, our External Security Service.
These departments are expected, by law, to take all appropriate measures to protect Ghana from internal and external threats to stability. The departments are also expected to assist in measures that would promote good governance in the country and the economic well-being of Ghana.
Mr. Speaker, the departments would be faced with critical tests during the 2007 fiscal year as Ghana welcomes foreign dignitaries during the 50th Anniversary celebrations as well as the hosting of other international conferences. Mr. Speaker, I therefore beg to move, that this hon-ourable House approves the sum of ¢366,666,000,000 for the services of the Ministry of National Security for the fiscal year ending 2007.
Chairman of the Committee (Mr. J. K. Hackman) 11:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion and in doing so to present the Report of the Committee. 1.0 Introduction
1.1 Following the presentation to Parliament of the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2007 financial year on Thursday, 16th November 2006, by the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, the Annual Budget Estimates of the Ministry of National Security were referred to the Committee for its consideration and report, in accordance with article 179 of the Constitution and Orders 140 (4) and 158 of the Standing Orders of the House.
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Alhaji Sumani Abukari (NDC - Tamale North) 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, actually there is not much to be said about the budget for the Ministry of National Security because everybody knows what we mean when we say national security; that is the security of all of us sitting in this House and the entire nation.
So it goes without saying that this is a very important Ministry; we should ensure our security; we should ensure that we move around freely and comfortably, and
sleep safely at night.
Mr. Speaker, therefore the amount that has been voted for this Ministry is, as far as I am concerned, very paltry. Mr. Speaker, all the allocations made under all the sectors have been seriously slashed. If you look at the demands being made and the allocations that have been given to them, Mr. Speaker, I suspect the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning has forgotten that this is now a new Ministry, standing on its own feet. It is no more aligned to another Ministry from which it could benefit.

So I think that all the sector allocations that have been made should be upgraded during the mid-year review and the Ministry should be given more money to operate.

Having said this, Mr. Speaker, I will go on and say that the Ministry has to be up and doing. Armed robbery is on the increase; we know it. Cocaine smuggling and distribution is on the increase. Mr. Speaker, I think that our national security set-up -- the Bureau of National Investigations (BNI) and others -- should sit up and see how much they can help the Police Service to curtail some of such menace around us, and to ensure that Ghana does not become the hub for cocaine dealing and it does not become the safe home for armed robbers who have been chased away from Nigeria. Newspaper reports indicate that most of these armed robbers come in from Nigeria or have Nigerian names.

So I will advise, Mr. Speaker, that the Ministry should watch the activities of these cocaine dealers and armed robbers and ensure that in 2007, we have a safer Ghana devoid of cocaine and armed robbery. Mr. Speaker, to do this -- I think

I have said this earlier -- their funds and resources must be increased.

As a new Ministry, National Security was not given any allocation at all. But we all know that in all the other Ministries the main Ministries are given allocations to run the main Ministries minus the sector Ministries. The National Security Ministry got nothing -- not even under P.E., not even under Administration. Yet there is no doubt that they have to recruit more people to man the administrative sector of that Ministry.

Mr. Speaker, they also have to recruit more people to help them curtail some of these crimes that we are talking about. So I suspect that, as I said, the Minister of Finance and Economic Planning did not really scrutinize their demands and did not realize that they are now on their own feet.

Mr. Speaker, I will go on and say that the security of certain very important personalities has to be enhanced because of the increase in armed robbery and other crimes. For instance, I know that the security of the Attorney-General has to be enhanced, because he is now dealing with not only armed robbers, but also cocaine and drug smugglers -- the people he is prosecuting. They are all going to look for his blood. The security of our Judiciary has to be enhanced.

In fact, I must go on and say that -- [Interruption] -- the security of Members of Parliament (MPs) here has to be enhanced. All manner of persons come in here -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Asamoah-Boateng 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I did hear my hon. Colleague say that the security of my hon. Colleague, the Attorney-General must be enhanced because people are going to look for his blood. I just wanted to know whether he knows those people and whether he knows their plans to look for his blood.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
You are out of order.
Alhaji Sumani 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I know that the saman-saman people cannot cater for our security so I would not say that one -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker, I must say that security of MPs has to be enhanced. Mr. Speaker, the Minister for Parliamentary Affairs, has to ensure that we have cameras all around. Let us also train our people to ensure that not everybody can walk even into the main gates of Parliament, not to talk of entering Parliament and going into the lobby.
So please, let us resource the Ministry of National Security to take all these on board and see how they can arrange to ensure our security.
Mr. Speaker, I will go on to say that in two years, His Excellency President John Agyekum Kufuor will be a former President of Ghana -- [Interruption] -- Yes, in two years. 2008 is two years away -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, our Colleague is misleading this House.
Alhaji Abukari 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, this man -- you did not call him. I do not know why he is talking.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Honestly, I did not call you; I do not understand why you are still talking. Yes, what is your point, hon. Member?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Colleague is saying that in two years, His Excellency John Agyekum Kufuor will be former President. Mr. Speaker, we are in December 2006; two years from hence will be December 2008 and God willing, he will still be the
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.


President of Ghana.

Mr. Speaker, if he insists that by December 2008 President Agyekum Kufuor would be referred to as ex-President of Ghana, then we need further particulars on what he has said. [Interruption.] Mr. Speaker, he is either wishing that by December 2008 the President would have died or would not, by whatever circumstance, be the President of Ghana.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
That is not what he is saying, hon. Member. Let him continue.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is exactly what he has said -- [Interruption.]
Alhaji Abukari 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am very sorry; I did not know that the Majority Chief Whip wishes the President dead. Mr. Speaker, I do not wish it at all; I do not wish it at all. I wish him long life. I hope he lives to be 97.9 -- he should not curtail his life, please.
Mr. Speaker, I would say that we also have a sitting former President -- His Excellency Jerry John Rawlings. I think that we should start by making sure that his security is enhanced, and by starting to prepare to add the sitting President to him by the 9th of January, 2009. Because, whether that side wins or we win -- and they have no chance of winning; we all know it -- he will be out of office, no matter who will be President.
We shall make sure that he is properly secured. But for now, I think that, please, the Minister for National Security, should ensure that Jerry John Rawlings is properly secured and protected.
With these few words, I support the
motion on the floor.
Mr. A. K. Agbesi (NDC -- Ashaiman) 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, we are all aware that this Ministry is so important, so necessary for our security, and we have to do all things possible for them to function because if they are performing well we are all secured. We can go to bed and wake up and say that we are secured. So if there is anything the Ministry would need, in terms of money, please we should find the money for this Ministry.
Mr. Speaker, at page 2 of the Report, it is stated that the Ministry is to advise government and to implement Government policies on security of the State and relevant issues, internally and externally, to ensure the stability of the State for the benefit of the people of Ghana. Yes, they are to ensure the stability of the State to the benefit of the people of Ghana.
That is the reason why, Mr. Speaker, when recently a whole vessel came into this country, and the security was not able to monitor this vessel which was alleged to be carrying cocaine and it managed to have its colour changed and the consignment got missing, everybody in this country became alarmed. What is the Ministry of National Security doing? Mr. Speaker, we are all for the success of this Ministry because we also want to be secured. My hon. Colleague has stated a lot about the security of Members of Parliament, security of Ministers, security of Judges and the security of the people who voted for us.
Mr. Speaker, we want to have a situation where everybody in this country would wake up, would go about his work freely without any hindrance, without looking “at his back”. And that is why this Ministry exists. We pray that the Minister himself will have long life, will have strength to be able to live and do the work that he has
been appointed for. If that is happening, the next time he comes here, all the money he wants we will be able to give to him because we will be secure.

Mr. Speaker, this Ministry has an onerous duty, a responsibility to ensure that the State called Ghana exists, that nobody interferes with its existence, whether internally or externally. That is why we want to make sure that they have their budget and when we are sleeping they make sure that externally we do not have any problem.

Mr. Kojo Armah (CPP -- Evalue

Gwira): Mr. Speaker, I also rise to support the motion and also add my voice to the call that the sum approved for the Ministry is rather inadequate.
Mr. J. K. Avedzi 11:55 a.m.
On a point of order.
Mr. Speaker, I think the hon. Member is misleading the House when he says that national security should be the responsibility of everybody; which is true.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
If it is true, then he is misleading the House? Why do
you say that?
Mr. Avedzi 11:55 a.m.
If everybody is responsible for national security, then there is no need for the Ministry to come here to be asking for money.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
You are out of order. Sit down.
Mr. Armah 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my hon. Friend has a lot to learn. Mr. Speaker, I was saying that it is everybody's business to assist in maintaining security. The Ministry co-ordinates what we do. I was at the point of saying that sometimes some of us get worried at media reports on certain aspects of our national life, which should not be.
A recent case was a routine exercise by the military which is not new, something that even in my district the military comes to do.
Mr. E.T. Mensah 11:55 a.m.
On a point of
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Hon.
Member, is that your point of order?
Mr. E.T. Mensah 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is
a point of order because he is twisting something. The document that was discussed by The Inquirer! was not denied by the Military authorities. They said that
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
So what
is your point?
Mr. E.T. Mensah 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Hon.
Member, I think you are out of order. Take your seat.
Mr. Armah 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it appears
hon. E.T. Mensah rather wants to sweep the issue under the carpet. Mr. Speaker, the military action that he is talking about can sometimes be simulated and in a densely populated area there can be such issues. I am aware that these things happen. What happened along the coastal line that I was referring to was only one instance. In residential areas, simulated actions can also take place.
So when they are talking about this as if they are real issues -- All that I am saying is that the media ought to be circumspect in reporting on some of these issues so that unnecessary scare is not foisted on the people in this country. This is all that I am saying. If they get a document, they need to verify with National Security.
Mr. Speaker, I also would want to go
Mr. Avedzi 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think
it was not the media which speculated that there was a threat of coup by the
former President of this Republic. It was something which was said at Offinso by our sitting President. It was not the media that said that the military was trying to overthrow the Government. Was it the media? It was something which was said.
Mr. Armah 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, not long
ago my brother, hon. Balado Manu said that some people have hearing problems. I was talking about simulated military action and I was saying that the media in all circumstances ought to assist national security by not bringing some of these things out so that the citizens do not become scared, and that if there was anything for them to verify, they ought to verify before they bring these matters of security into the public domain.
Mr. Speaker, I also would want to zero
in on our compatriot who work day and night outside the borders to secure this country. I am talking about the Research Department. I realize that the vote given to them again is not very adequate but I want to commend them for the work that they are doing. I see that some progress is being made there.
I am also aware that there is some staff shortage there and I hope the hon. Minister will do well to see to do a bit more recruitment into that agency so that they can enhance their work. I realize from the Report that 18 more stations have been added to their area of operation and I think this calls for more resources for that Ministry.
Mr. Speaker, I believe all of us need
to assist National Security to make this country secured so that come 2007, our Jubilee year, we shall all feel very comfortable; that this country would not be divided into four but that we shall celebrate the jubilee year in peace.
Mr. E. T. Mensah (NDC 12:05 p.m.
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Prampram): Mr. Speaker, the importance of national security cannot be over- emphasized. Mr. Speaker, looking at the functions that are performed by National Security as stated in the Report, what we see out there leaves a lot to be desired.

For instance, Mr. Speaker, paragraph 3.1 outlines the functions of the Ministry. Some of them are: “(a) collecting and collating information on relevant security issues” and “(b) processing, analyzing and evaluating information on national security”. When we collect such information, some of the information are just based on hearsay. But what we have witnessed is that as soon as the information is given, the information is not analysed thoroughly and then with indecent haste they close in on the people that the information has been peddled about.

I can use myself as an example. When an information was out there that I whispered, that “the plan has worked”. When the word whispering is checked in the dictionary -- when I whisper to hon. Doe Adjaho here nobody would hear it. But nobody analysed the information; they did not even check to find my whereabouts and I was busted. It has happened to various people.

Just recently hon. Twumasi-Appiah was the one who sent the material to a place to be tested and when it went out, instead of the operatives of National Security apparatus analyzing thoroughly the information, they just jumped out there and put him in.

We have quite often heard about coup scares, a boom speech which has coup element in it, and we believe that if we are

going by what is here, such an information would be analyzed thoroughly -- I love espionage so I read a lot of espionage books and I read about how information from informants are analyzed.

In this country, because we just rush with indecent haste to take action, there are many people out there who benefit from this kind of misinformation peddling. They go out there and because it is for the sake of the National Security, we do not analyze these things well; we create a lot of problems.

Mr. Speaker, I also want to find out from

the hon. Minister for National Security this rumour all over the place that he sponsors newspapers. He has never come out to deny or confirm whether he sponsors newspapers, where he plants stories and follows up to close in on people.

Mr. Speaker, we have had these coup, scares which are not good for us. So I also want to know whether these coup scares are real or imaginary, using his machinery of analysing and processing the information. I think it is important that we know. When we talk about information peddling, an example was at Koforidua. The kind of information that was put out there --
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Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon.
Member for Sisala West, are you on a point of order?
Mr. Bayirga 12:05 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr.
Speaker, I think that the hon. Member for Ningo-Prampram should contribute on the Budget but not to ask questions. This is not Question time. So he should not mislead us.
Then he also talked about coups. Definitely, the media would have to come
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Ningo Prampram, your hon. Colleague is saying that you should contribute to the motion before us and that this is not Question time such that you would be asking for some matter to be confirmed. In fact, that is not appropriate for you to be asking.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was neither talking of wakye nor fufu. I am talking about a report on national security; and we give them money to protect all of us. We have all been in this country from even the Mate me ho days and the rate at which we see coup scares these days was never the same. So we are saying, that if you read espionage books, you will know what undercover work means.
Mr. Okerchire 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think that the hon. Member must be stopped from raising these questions. Nowhere under this sun do they call the Minister for National Security into the open to come and answer questions on whether the coup scares are justified, and whether they are sponsoring newspapers. It is never done. Elsewhere, in other jurisdictions, there are intelligence committees that deal with these matters in camera, in the national interest. Please, I think he is old enough and a very experienced hon. Member. What he is doing is totally out of order.
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Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Yes, hon.
Deputy Minority Leader, do you also want to say something?
Mr. Adjaho 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, surprisingly
the hon. Deputy Majority Whip did not give a specific example of the particular jurisdiction he is talking about. Mr. Speaker, we know for example that in Britain, on the kind of committee that he is talking about, the Minority Leader is represented on it; the Opposition Leader is a member of that kind of committee.
So when you have that kind of arrangement in place, he comes back to brief his side and there is no need to raise such matters on the floor. But where you have an arrangement where that information is not shared, then there is no other avenue than to raise it on the floor. So please, when he wants to give a particular example he should give us the particular jurisdiction that he is talking about.
Mr. Kofi Jumah 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Deputy Minority Leader is misleading this House. In the United States, when issues of national security are being discussed, they are discussed in camera. The budget is done by the Select Committee on Intelligence and it is done in camera even in the United States.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Ningo Prampram, do not provoke a controversy on the floor over issues that I have already advised you on. I have already advised that you stick to the motion on the floor.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am speaking to the issue on the floor. I am saying that in his winding-up, he should speak to these issues. If he does not speak to them then that is the end. I am a student of American politics. Not too long ago, security operatives in the United States were grilled by the Senate in the open. So it is absolutely not true that these things are not done. Mr. Speaker, they are done and I am saying that -- [Interruption.]
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Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Jomoro, are you on a point of order? I want to hear you.
Mr. Ocran 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, everybody is misleading this House. The hon. Minister should be given his money and then we move to other matters -- [Laughter.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Absolutely.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister definitely would be given his money. He knows that we are just wasting our time. But it is important that these issues are raised.
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Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon.
Member for Evalue-Gwira, are you on a point of order?
Mr. Armah 12:05 p.m.
That is so, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
He was just about to land --
Mr. Armah 12:05 p.m.
No, Mr. Speaker, he made a statement that I think needs to be corrected; that sometimes people in government or some other persons can be eaten up by misinformation. All that I want to say is that security is based on information. It is only when they analyze
it that they know which one is relevant, or appropriate and decide which one to use and which one to discard. So he cannot say that somebody would be eaten up by misinformation. I think we need to correct that.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:05 p.m.
I do not think my hon. Colleague has been following me. I am saying, it is failure to analyze information thoroughly that makes such things to happen. It is analyzed thoroughly and if it is chaff, then they throw it away.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
You have made that point already.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:05 p.m.
But, Mr. Speaker, let me conclude by saying that people should check out the information -- if you do not know, find out -- they can be eaten up by reckless National Security operatives. So the hon. Minister must ensure that such reckless National Security operatives are weeded out of the system.
Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho (NDC -- Avenor/ Ave) 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion. But Mr. Speaker, looking at the Committee's Report, it is in itself shrouded in mystery. And now that my good Friend is there, I hope he would try to demystify it. How can you have a Ministry and no allocation at all has been made to the Ministry? That is the first mystery about this motion that we are being called upon to approve.
Mr. Speaker, we know the Research Department's headquarters; we know the National Security Council; we know the Ministry of National Security. But what do we mean by Office of National Security, now that we have created the Ministry of National Security? I think that we have to be sure of whom we are giving money to. We have to be very clear in our minds.
Mr. J. K. Hackman 12:15 p.m.
On a point of
order. Mr. Speaker, the reason why we got nothing for the Ministry for National Security is because the staff operating in this department were the same staff that operated under National Security. So there was no need to put any amount there for that purpose, otherwise there will be duplication. The same members of staff are running the Ministry now, in the interim.
Mr. Adjaho 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, but once
you create a new Ministry, there ought to be realignments. But to say that the Ministry that we have approved in this House has no money to spend as a Ministry and we put zero, zero, zero there, Mr. Speaker, it does not add up -- Mr. Speaker, I am referring to page 4 of the Committee's Report, if you have it there -- the table there, paragraph 4.
I think that once you have created the Ministry, there is the need for realignment. For example, Mr. Speaker, we know that the Chairman of the National Security Council, by virtue of our Constitution is His Excellency the President. Now, are we putting the President's Committee under the Ministry? What is the kind of realignment that we have done so that we do not make double payments here and there?
It is very important for us to get these things clear in our minds. I do not
have a problem with the appropriation. We all want to go and sleep, and sleep comfortably. We do not want armed robbers to be worrying us. We want to be free in this country. We do not want any harassment from anybody. He needs money to do the work. But we have to be clear in our minds as to exactly what we are doing, when we say that there is no money for the Ministry itself. Which office is Office of National Security? What office is it and who created it?
Now that we have created a full Ministry for it, are we talking about the Office of the National Security Co- ordinator which comes directly under the hon. Minister? Is that the one that we are talking about? Why should we give appropriation to the person who reports to the Minister and yet the Minister himself has no appropriation?
I think that we have to understand exactly what we are doing. How does the Minister spend? How does he authorize expenditure if he has no money to spend? How does he authorize expenditure if he has no money there? Is he still in charge of National Security in a way and he is still a Minister in another? That is the only explanation that can make sense.
So we have to be very clear exactly about what we are doing with it. I do not have any problem with the allocation to him. He needs money to do his work. Hon. Members have expressed other concerns which I believe I do not want to belabour.
Mr. Speaker, exactly what do we
mean by Office of National Security? Mr. Speaker, you will notice from the list that the Office of National Security, for personal emolument has been given ¢213.9 billion. And then we are told that personal emolument for the grand total is
the same ¢213.9 billion. It does not add up. There is a problem with this Report.
The Office of the National Security alone is ¢219.9 billion and then we have National Security Council having ¢34.4 billion, Research Department ¢8.5 billion, BNI ¢77.4 billion and the Research Department ¢93.4 billion. And they are telling us that the grand total for Personal Emolument is ¢213.9 billion.
There is something wrong with this Report, Mr. Speaker. It does not add up. But we want to know why since we approved him as a Minister he has not done the necessary realignment so that we know how much we are giving him, so that we can hold him responsible for appropriations made to his Ministry. Now the way it stands, as far as this House is concerned, we are not giving any money at all to the Minister. He is only coming to move the motion. So which Minister are we going to hold responsible for this appropriation here?
Mr. Speaker, these are my words but
I have no objection to the money being given to them. We need an explanation. We have to know the kind of realignment we have done. We know that his office was directly under the Office of the President. Now who controls the National Security Council? Is it now under him?
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Hon.
Deputy Minority Leader, I believe you have made your point. You are going over it again.
Dr. Benjamin Kunbuor (NDC --
Lawra-Nandom): Mr. Speaker, I just want to make one or two comments now that we are having for the first time in this
House a budget, so to speak, dealing with the newly-created Ministry of National Security.
Mr. Speaker, I guess that for whatever
budgetary allocations that are made to the new Ministry, there are a number of current developments that the Ministry has to take into consideration, that this House has never actually historically received the Report that is mandated by law; and it should be factored in all these budgetary allocations, because one of the most important things about the security sector is that it is like any other sector, subject to good governance and subject to oversight of Parliament.
But more importantly Mr. Speaker, there has been growing concern about the regional and district level security architecture in this country. And this is because the District Chief Executive and the Regional Ministers are Chairmen of either District Security Councils (DISEC) or Regional Security Councils (REGSEC).
Mr. Speaker, there is a lot of recklessness that is taking place which is always worrying to some of us. They must begin to carry their DCEs and Regional Ministers and give them some minimum understanding of what national security and regional and district security issues are. When they get themselves entangled in chieftaincy problems, and they go and put their fingers right into almost all the pockets of conflicts in their districts and regions, all of us get endangered as politicians.
This is because when the violence breaks out, then you as the representatives of the people are caught up in the crossfire, not by your own doing but just due to the lack of security literacy of the people who are chairing the regional and district level security. They have actually reduced security and intelligence to covert operations.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think that an impression was being created that this House has not got a procedure for discussing matters bordering on security.
Mr. Speaker, when my hon. Colleague who is now the Ranking Member for the Committee on Finance was a Ranking Member for the Committee on Defence and Interior, he would remember that when
we had one such security problem, the House as a normal procedure authorized the Committee on Defence and Interior to have in camera session, and I think at that time it was with the Minister for Defence.
Therefore, no impression should be created that we do not have a procedure in this House in relation to matters bordering on security. All that we need to do is to ask the Committee to continue performing its duties so that when we come to the floor of this House, we would be told about things that are required to be discussed on the floor of this House and things that are supposed to be discussed in camera.
I can assure hon. Members that when the Committee on Defence and Interior does bring or suggest that we should even have a closed meeting to give full briefing to the whole House, I do not think this Government would put any impediment in its way. Therefore, there is a procedure in this House.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Hon.
Minister for National Security, do you want to wind up and react to some of the concerns that have been brought before you?
Mr. Francis Poku 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I appreciate various suggestions made in this honourable House. Ghana has a very long security history and I appreciate that hon. Members of all parties have had dealings with the operation of security during their own regimes. We are trying to make an improvement for the good of the whole nation.
This basically is a non-partisan issue and we appreciate that all opinions expressed here have been in good faith. Indeed, I have been honoured to appear before the Parliamentary Select Committee on Defence and Interior and I have always been taking suggestions that have been expressed during these meetings, and I
believe that we are all advocating stability in this country.
The first measure I took when I was
the Coordinator was to set up a legal section with the security services. This was to test the legal basis of all operations conducted by the security services. Mr. Speaker, there is the saying that by their fruits you would know them; and I believe for the past six years hon. Members are able to judge the performance of the security services. I can assure you that we subscribe fully to the rule of law in this country and we believe that not only Ghana as a whole but our departments have had results to show for the benefits of these policies.
At the moment, there are overtures from some countries which are trying to find out how we have been able to balance stability and democracy in this country. I believe this is due to the professionalism of the security services. There is room for improvement and I would take note of all the opinions expressed by hon. Members.
Regarding the former President, I repeat my commitment and the commitment of all my departmental heads to the rule of law and believe that all Ghanaians know that we would not subscribe to any illegal methods in the maintenance of security in this country.
I have mentioned that we have challenges ahead, especially next year, involving protection of foreign dignitaries, protection of hon. Members which of course is a priority, and there is a contract at the moment to maintain the security of this House with a measure that I would inform the Committee Members about.
So we are aware of the role that hon. Members are playing in maintenance of
national security. As an hon. Member said, Mr. Speaker, security is the business of everyone. It is true that we are employed professionally to maintain security but we all have a role to play and when you make suggestions, we do not write them off as coming from one side or the other.
Regarding the role of the Ministry, we
are all aware of the budgetary constraints, especially now, with the coming Jubilee. So we have not insisted on our pound of flesh and we have had to make do with staffing from various departments instead of making new recruitments because of budgetary constraints.
So yes, it is a process that has started. We set up the Ministry using the existing members of staff but when the economic situation improves, definitely we would be employing more people and be undertaking all other logistic measures that would ensure that we perform right up to a full Ministry. But we would make do with the budgetary constraints at the moment and we are very sensitive to the pressures on health, education and other departments. So we cannot insist, for the sake of security, to take everything to one Ministry.
Mr. Speaker, reference was made to
MV Benjamin on the cocaine issue. There is a Narcotics Control Board working on this incident and in the recommendations of the Committee, the security services have been asked to get more and more involved in the operation against narcotics in this country. And for the first time, I am going to be on the Board -- it has never happened before -- so that we can make security input into the fight against narcotics.
Mr. Speaker, we are getting to a point where everything that happens is attributed to national security and I believe a time would come when headaches
Mr. Francis Poku 12:25 p.m.


Mr. Speaker, we subscribe to the rule of law and we make sure that we are fair to all democratic parties in this country. We appreciate the role of this House in the maintenance of democracy and we would not do anything to undermine the role of various political parties in this country. We do appeal to the press and all members of the public to regulate their conduct when it comes to national security matters. The leakage of our contingency plans, I believe, was unfortunate. Every country has contingency plans and the security services have contingency plans for all eventualities. If there were to be flood and we were unable to respond immediately, that would be a security failure. If there were to be an earthquake, we should have contingency plan for dealing with earthquakes. So these plans must be there, otherwise we would not be fulfilling our respon-sibilities.

Mr. Speaker, the heads of department
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Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
I wanted to put the Question but the hon. Deputy Minority Leader is on his feet. Is there any problem you have with what has been said so far?
Mr. Adjaho 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, even though
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Which specific points are you talking about?
Mr. Adjaho 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, on page 4 of the Committee's Report. It is going into the record so I want the Committee to clarify the position before the Question is put.
Mr. Speaker, if you look at the Office of National Security, we were told that ¢366 billion is being given to them alone. When you get to the grand total, it is the same figure recorded there. Meanwhile, this thing is going into the record. So I would want the Committee to tell us exactly what it is -- Mr. Speaker, if you look at the Report -- Personal Emolument is there; if you look at the grand total, it is there. If you look at the Office of National Security budget alone, we are told it is ¢366 billion.
If you look at the grand total, even
though other figures have come to add to it, we are told it is the same ¢366.6 billion and these are matters for the records; they are going into the Hansard. And so the Committee should take this opportunity to clarify this position before you put the Question.
Mr. Joe Hackman 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, we have not actually taken these new figures into consideration but my understanding is that, a total amount of ¢366.666 billion would be required for the budget. I have not added those other figures but my impression is that that is the grand total.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I guess that it is something that is running through almost all the items. Mr. Speaker, if you take Personal Emoluments, you would see that ¢213 billion is what is given to the Office of National Security, and that is what has come down as the grand total; it is the same for Administration, Services
and Investment. So there must be a figure here which ought not to be here which is triggering off that arrangement; and that is what we want. It is not just about the grand total but almost all the items.
Mr. Hackman 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, seems what appears under Office of National Security should have been highlighted to actually capture the entire figure. So what is actually below is a breakdown.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Maybe, you need some help from the former Minister for Finance and Economic Planning.
Mr. Osafo-Maafo 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, there is obviously an additional error in the sense that we are repeating the first items and making them the total. But what is relevant is that the vote that has been requested is the ¢366.666 billion, which is correct. So I will say that let us give that vote which is in the concluding remarks and let them do the arithmetic as a matter or house-keeping.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
The Hansard is capturing -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Osafo-Maafo 12:35 p.m.
The Hansard wil l cap ture the to ta l which i s ¢366,666,000,000. That will be corrected.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Yes, hon. Kunbuor, what are you saying? You are the Ranking Member on the Finance Committee; let the others take their seats.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
If you look at the figures, what my hon. Colleague, the former Minister for Finance and Economic Planning is saying, should be taken. When you look at the motion, it is actually
¢366,910,000,000.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
No, we have changed it already. We are laying ¢366,666,000,000; it has been changed.
Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, when you look at page 324 of the parent Budget, the total figure against this Ministry is -- [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Yes, read it for us.
Mr. Appiah-Ofori 12:35 p.m.
It is ¢366,910,- 000,000, that is the total figure there. It is in a table.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
It had been ¢366,910,000,000 but before the Minister moved his motion he asked permission to correct the figure and he reduced it to ¢366,666,000,000. So at the moment, what is the issue?
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
The issue is that, Mr. Speaker, this is the micro ceiling that came in the Budget.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
And any other thing that is coming by way of a motion or a report must be in consonance with the micro ceiling in the Budget. So the correction, that is how it should be done -- It must rhyme; it should not be corrected as what is in the motion because it is based on the micro ceiling. So the correction should be this one.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
That is
366 . . .?
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
Yes, that is what is wrong because -- [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Are you saying that the ceiling that has been already advertised on the motion paper is the right one?
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
Yes, because that one is in line with what is in the Budget.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
But if they decide that they want something lower than that, that is also permitted by this House. [Laughter.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
That is also permitted but maybe -- Please, let us have one person speaking at a time. At the moment, I am speaking with hon. Kunbuor, so let the others take their seats. Please, hon. Deputy Minority Leader, can you take your seat and let me deal with hon. Kunbuor before you come in. Yes, hon. Kunbuor, I am listening to you.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
I will yield to the hon. Deputy Minority Leader.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
So you
will not come to that.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
I was going to come
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Now, if you are yielding to him then -- I want to solve this problem because it is a question of figures.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, let us get it a bit more consistently.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
That is all right.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
What we are saying is that the Budget Statement that was presented with annexures actually gave a micro ceiling of ¢366,910,000,000.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Very well.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
You cannot exceed that figure.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
It has not been exceeded.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:35 p.m.
But we can actually lower it. So if the committee has come with a report, what we want to know is whether it is the intention of the Committee to lower it. If it is not their intention, then it should be expunged and the micro ceiling put back.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Hon. Chairman of the Committee (hon. Hackman), from your own meetings are you suggesting that the budget that has been allocated in the Budget Statement itself, you seek to lower it? Concerning what the hon. Member has just told us, that he thinks that the allocation has been adequate and yet you seek to lower it -- Is that the case?
Mr. Hackman 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the total sum actually reads three hundred and sixty-six billion, nine hundred and ten million (¢366,910,000,000).
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
But that is not contained in your Report.
Mr. Hackman 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, that will be corrected.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
It should be corrected.
Mr. Hackman 12:35 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Fair enough. I will now come to you, hon. Deputy Minority Leader.
Mr. Adjaho 12:35 p.m.
As for what the hon. Minister did, it was correct. But what the Committee is telling us -- there is a problem. Mr. Speaker, you know that what
you are doing now -- we are laying the foundation to pass the Appropriation Bill.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
That is what we do here.
Mr. Adjaho 12:35 p.m.
And therefore we have programmes and activities stipulated under article 179 of the Constitution and they say it should be classified under programmes and activities. If the Committee is now amending the final figure, what is the breakdown of the various activities from item one to item four? Because, if you add up those figures that he gave, you arrive at ¢366.9 billion which is correct. How would the total add up in terms of Personal Emoluments (PE) in item two and in terms of item three and item four? Those are the programmes and activities.
So Mr. Speaker, there are two ways of resolving this matter.
The good news is that both sides of the House have agreed that we approve the figure given by the Minister. But we also want to make sure that we are giving him the amount that we have given him for PE, and we want to know how much we are giving him for Administration, Service and Investment.
Now, those figures here do not tally even though the final figure is right. The Committee has two options, either they expunge this information from the records in the Report, or they go back and clean it and give us the detailed breakdown of the various items and make progress.
Mr. Appiah-Ofori 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the appropriation account should balance. If the left hand side of it is 10 billion, the right hand should be 10 billion.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
We know that; what is your point?
Mr. Appiah-Ofori 12:35 p.m.
If we use the
Minister's figure, it will not balance because this is not what is in this document.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
So what are you saying?
Mr. Appiah-Ofori 12:35 p.m.
So you have to use the figure in the Committee's Report, which synchronises with the report from the main Budget, and let us ignore what the Minister is saying. After all, the money may not be given to him. So let us do things properly.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Hon. Majority Leader, before you go on let the former Minister for Finance and Economic Planning say something.
Mr. Osafo-Maafo 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think we are really confusing the issue. At page 324, which was referred to by hon. Appiah-Ofori, we have the total and we have the breakdown -- item one, item two, item three and all.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
So strictly speaking, it is not the Committee which is going to break down this.
Mr. Osafo-Maafo 12:35 p.m.
No, Mr. Speaker. The totals are there. Let us go to 324 and let us copy into it this breakdown; and if we did that, as hon. Appiah-Ofori said, then it would balance. So I do not see any difficulty. There is certainly an error in the typing of the Report, but that error cannot supersede what are contained on page 324 which are the micro ceilings brought to us, which will also be captured in the actual Appropriation Act.
Therefore, let us take that breakdown and let us use it.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Thank you very much. Yes, the last word now.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Which document are you referring to?
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:35 p.m.
The Report. What we are saying is that the total which came before the grand total should be expunged. We have Office of the National Security, without these figures which have been repeated down there as grand total; that should be expunged and then we do not have any problem.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon Members, do not let us split hairs over this. Now, the solution has been offered, thanks to some of you who have an inclination to figures. Indeed, in the Budget Statement itself, the figure has been spelt out clearly and there has been a breakdown. And then in the advertised Order Paper itself, it has been spelt out clearly, which tallies with the Report.
Maybe, the problem is with the Report of the Committee itself which hon. E. T. Mensah has suggested needs to be corrected so that it will reflect what is contained in the Budget Statement and then the real figure on the Order Paper. If that be the case I will put the Question on the figure in the Order Paper. In that case we will not correct it, just as the hon. Minister suggested.

Question put and motion agreed to.

Resolved:

That this honourable House approves the sum of ¢366,910,000,000 for the services of the Ministry of National Security for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that you are directing the Hansard to copy page 324 because now the Committee has virtually finished its work in relation to this. So you should direct the Hansard to capture that of the Ministry of National Security at page 324 of the Budget Statement.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
That is absolutely right. That will be done by the Hansard Department. Let us move on -- Item 9.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 12:45 p.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thought that this was a situation where the Cabinet Minister would take precedence over the Deputy Minister.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
The what?
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 12:45 p.m.
The motion is going to be moved by the Deputy Minister in line with the style -- [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
So you want to change it?
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 12:45 p.m.
We would like the Minister for Fisheries to move the motion.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
I think the Chair will allow that.
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Minister for Fisheries (Mrs. Gladys Asmah) 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House approves the sum of ¢42.670 million for the services, activities and programmes of the Ministry of Fisheries (MOFI) for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. Speaker, it will be recalled that
the Ministry of Fisheries is relatively a new Ministry and therefore it requires adequate funds for its physical infras- tructure, furnishing, equipment and vehicles to enable the Ministry set up a Credible Management and Financial Administration Systems which will help to revamp and modernize the fisheries as well as register effective presence and render efficient services for the people in the fisheries industry.
In the past years, the industry, despite its great potential has recorded slow growth to the extent that its contribution to the country's GDP growth rate has been negligible.
The industry is beset by a number of problems and challenges which has been caused basically by overexploitation of the country's aquatic resources. The causes of the slow growth of the industry include dwindling fish stocks, under- developed and dangerous infrastructure, illegal fisheries practices, ageing fishing fleet and canoes, old-fashioned gear, lack of refrigeration and cold storage facilities and inadequate private sector investments into the industry.
Mr. Speaker, it is in the light of the above-stated reasons that the Ministry has been mandated to promote sustainable and thriving fisheries enterprises, through research, techno-logical development and extension services to fishermen, fishermen processors and fishmongers, in order to fulfil its crucial role as instrument of poverty reduction.
The functions of the Ministry are as follows:
To formulate, disseminate and co-ordinate the implementation of policies and programmes for the sector.
To provide technical support and facilitate financial assistance to fishers, fish processors and traders.
To facilitate effective and efficient input supply and distribution.
To facilitate fish production to ensure fish food security.
Mr. Speaker, the Ministry has not yet overcome its teething problems of establishment. It has therefore become practically difficult to pursue the Ministry's programmes and activities with the required vigour and establish strong regional and district presence to achieve the desired results. However, the Ministry is determined to make the desired impact within the shortest possible time.
Performance in 2006
Mr. Speaker, the problems and challenges notwithstanding the Ministry did a lot with its allocation of ¢41.840 billion which was distributed to its component units as follows:
From the Consolidated Fund ¢15,840 billion was allocated, expected Donor Funding was ¢12 billion and expected IGF was ¢14 billion.
Mr. Speaker, the total budget of ¢41.840 billion was shared among the component units as follows:-
i. For General Administration (Min. HQ.) an amount of ¢14,241 billion was allocated.
ii. For the Directorate of Fisheries, an amount of ¢22,911 billion was allocated for its operations.
iii. For Research, an amount of ¢4,114 billion was allocated.
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GOG 12:45 p.m.

Chairman of the Committee (Dr. M. K. Antwi) 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to second the motion as moved by the hon. Minister for Fisheries that this honourable House approves the sum of ¢42,670,000,000 for the services of the Ministry of Fisheries for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. Speaker, before I present the Report of the Committee I would want to make some corrections on the front page of the Committees Report. It is not a draft annual estimate; it should read: “Report of the Parliamentary Select Committee on Food, Agriculture and Cocoa Affairs on the 2007 Annual Budget Estimates of the Ministry of Fisheries.” It is not a draft
Estimates of the Ministry of Fisheries
4. The Budget Statement and Economic Po l icy o f the Government for the 2006 Fiscal Year
5. The Budget Statement and Economic Po l icy o f the Government for the 2007 Fiscal Year
6. The 2007 Draft Annual Budget of the Ministry of Fisheries.
4.0 Mission Statement
The Ministry of Fisheries exists to promote sustainable and thriving fisheries enterprises through research, technology development, extension and other support services to fishers, processors and traders and to fulfil its crucial role as an instrument of poverty reduction.
5.0 Objectives of the Ministry
For the 2006 fiscal year, the Ministry will pursue the following objectives:
1. Prepare and keep under con- tinual review plans for the management and development of fisheries in waters under the jurisdiction of Ghana.
2. Ensure availability and adequate supply of fish from capture and culture fisheries for the local and export market.
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Mr. S. K. B. Manu (NPP -- Ahafo Ano South) 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion and to use the opportunity to say a few things about the Ministry.
Mr. Speaker, this Ministry is one that if Ghana was to take a serious look at, it would help preserve some of the foreign exchange that we send out. Mr. Speaker, in this country fish consumption is very high among Ghanaians but we tend to import about 50 to 60 per cent of what we consume. I am not too sure about the percentage but what I know is that we import a very large quantity of fish into this country whereas we have lands and sites in this country where we can do inland fishing, dig ponds and rear the type of fish we want.
But the Ministry is so ill-resourced; even to hire a bulldozer to dig a pond is too expensive for the ordinary Ghanaian that we cannot do this.
So I urge the Government not to see this Ministry as an infant Ministry but to pump more money into it so that farmers who are interested in doing inland fishing can have the machines at a lower and affordable cost so that we can expand the fishing industry in Ghana.
We cannot rely on the seas and the lagoons for the fishes because we do not control those fishes. But if we are to dig ponds of about the size of this chamber and
Mr. Lee Ocran 12:55 p.m.
On a point of
Mr. Manu 12:55 p.m.
Yes, I know what you are
going to say. I do not come from the coast -- [Laughter] -- If I take you to the forest I will tell you all the animals in the forest.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Hon. Balado Manu, please, can you take your seat.
Mr. Lee Ocran 12:55 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, it is unfortunate the hon. Member from the forest is trying to mislead us. We do not rear red fish in ponds. He should not mislead us, please. He should talk about black fish and some other things but he should not come and mislead us.
Mr. Manu 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, he even did
not know that the red fish is not in the sea. He too did not know -- [Interruption] -- It is not I alone who do not know. He too does not know -- [Laughter] -- Whatever I am saying, whether it is black fish or white fish, what I am saying is that if we rear fish in-land then we can decide which type of fish to rear. But if we are to go to the high seas for the fish, there is the net or whatever which brings whichever fish it has got. Then we have no choice.
So what I am saying in short is that we should resource this Ministry well enough so that the materials we can use to rear the fish on our own will be affordable to us. As I stand here, I have acquired land;
I want to dig the pond but if I go to the machine owners, I cannot hire them. They are too expensive so the Ministry needs to be resourced so that they can buy more bulldozers for us to hire at affordable cost.
Alhaji Alhassan Yakubu (NDC -- Nanton) 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you very much for allowing me time to contribute to this motion.
The Ministry of Fisheries is a new Ministry, they have teething problems and I think the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning should take steps to assist them to get them to be stable.
Mr. Speaker, the Committee found that the Ministry operates from four different locations. Indeed, one of the offices is located at Tema, to the extent that if the hon. Minister calls for a file, somebody would have to travel to Tema to go and bring the file for action. That is not good enough and I think steps must be taken to locate the Ministry appropriately so that they can get on with their work properly. I think that construction of the office building must be fast-tracked by whatever means possible to get the Ministry stable.
Mr. Speaker, the Fisheries Commission is still not in place even though assurances have been given by the hon. Minister to get it established. To that extent, in this year, resources allocated for the running of the Commission have not been released by the Accountant-General simply because the Commission is not in place. And that definitely is affecting the smooth running of the fisheries sector.
The premix fuel has problems and the hon. Minister has promised to take it up. My humble plea is that a careful analysis be made as to why previous methods of distributing the premix fuel failed, so that lessons learnt can inform decisions that the Ministry will be making; and we can
avoid any pitfalls during the process of implementation.
My last point, Mr. Speaker, is that I urge the Ministry to collaborate strongly with other fisheries research agencies so that technology can be appropriately imported into our fisheries sector. Specifically we mentioned, at least, the Water Research Institute in Tamale that has managed to identify fish species that consume guinea- worm eggs.
I believe that if the Ministry collaborated with the Water Research Institute, perhaps such fish species could be multiplied and our water bodies stocked with such species and then we could be helping in a way to bring down the menace of guinea-worm that affects or that plagues my constituents in particular.
Mr. Speaker, with these few words I support the motion and I urge that hon. Members allow the motion to be carried.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved:
That this honourable House approves the sum of ¢42,670,000,000 for the service, activities and programmes of the Ministry of Fisheries (MOFI) for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Motion -- 11. Hon. Minister for Women and Children's Affairs -- [Interruption.]
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
even if we are in a hurry we should take two contributions from each side -- [Interruption] -- because some of the issues are very important.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Hon. E. T.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, there is no controversy but the Ministry of Fisheries is very important.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Yes, Hon. Minister, continue.
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Chairman of the Committee (Mrs. Esther Dappah Obeng) 1:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion and in so doing present the Report of your Committee.
1.0 Introduction
Mr. Speaker, following the presentation to Parliament of the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2007 Financial Year on Thursday, 16th November 2006, by

the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, the Annual Budget Estimates of the Ministry of Women and Children's Affairs were referred to the Committee for its consideration and report, in accordance with article 179 of the Constitution and Orders 140 (4) and 158 of the Standing Orders of the House.

The Committee met on the 8th of December, 2006 to consider the referral. The Hon. Minister for Women and Children's Affairs, Haija Alima Mahama accompanied by officials of the Ministry attended the sitting.

2.0 Reference Documents

i. Constitution of the Republic of Ghana, 1992;

i i . The S tanding Orders o f Parliament;

iii. The Budget Statement and Economic Po l icy o f the Government of Ghana for the 2007 Financial Year;

iv. The Committee's report on 2006 budget estimates of the Sector Ministry.

3.0 Mission Statement

The Ministry of Women and Children's Affairs exists to promote gender equality and equity, the survival protection and development of children to ensure increased participation of both women and children in the development process of the country.

The Ministry therefore is responsible for:

i. Policy formulation, co- ordination and monitoring of constitutional framework and

activities of women and children pro-grammes;

ii. Advocacy of gender sensitivity in sectoral plans and business promotion, programmes and projects;

iii. Collaboration with donor agencies, NGOs and other development par tners to facilitate the integration of Women and Children in national development;

iv. Implementation and dissemi- nation of government policies on Women and Children for incorporation into the develop- ment process;

v. Implementation of sector plans and programmes relating to Women and Children;

vi. Ensuring the adherence and implementation of international convention, protocols, treaties and resolutions.

4.0 Objectives of the Ministry

In pursuit of this mission, the Ministry has the following as its main objectives:

i. Enhance the socio-economic status of women and children, the Vulnerable and Marginalized Groups in order to accelerate growth and poverty reduction

ii. Accelerate the integration of women and children issues into the national development policy framework

iii. Promote the survival, protection and participation of children

iv. Collaborate with institutions to promote Gender Equality and Equity

v. Enhance the capacity building of MOWAC and it's departments for efficient service delivery

vi. Establish and periodically update a reliable gender-disaggregated database for evidence based policy formulation/Review.

5.0 Performance in 2006

A sum of twenty two billion, six hundred million cedis (¢22,600,000,000) was approved by this honourable House for the operations of the Ministry in 2006 out of the base budget of fifty four billion, four hundred and seventy-four million cedis (¢54,474,000,000) and left a financing gap of thirty-two billion and one hundred million cedis (¢32,100,000,000.).

This implied that MOWAC was not able to carry out all its planned activities for 2006 and this affected overall service performance for the period. Nevertheless, the Ministry was able to carry out some major activities as follows:

Carried out sensitization pro- grammes nat ionwide on the Domestic Violence Bill (DVB) to increase public understanding and enhance the passage of the Domestic Violence Act. View collated, enriched the content of the DVB.

MOWAC carried out effective sensitization programmes on the Human Trafficking Law (HTL) target ing relevant agencies ,

Traditional Authorities, the media, Religious bodies and the general public in all 10 regions of Ghana. A Human Trafficking Secretariat was established.

Presen ted and success fu l ly defended Ghana's Reports on the implementation of the Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW), at the UN and also presented Reports to the Committee on the Conventions of the right of the child in Geneva. This has enhanced Ghana's global image with respect to Government's commitment to issues relating to the advancement of women and children.

Over 25 women groups in Greater Accra Region were trained in the efficient use of micro-credit which enhanced the recovery rate of the micro-credit scheme. 130 women were also trained on Food Processing techniques.

Liaised with Micro-Financial schemes and institutions to extend credit to 17,000 women engaged in small-scale farming and petty trading, especially in the rural areas. The Expansion of the scheme created rural jobs and increased incomes of poor women.

To promote gender equality and equity, MOWAC collaborated with NDPC and key MDA's to mainstream gender, vulnerability and marginalized groups and children's issues into GPRS II -- National Development Policy framework of Government.

Set up about 100 community child volunteer teams aimed at protecting and seeking the welfare and development of children.

6.0 Outlook for 2007

The Ministry has planned among others the following activities for 2007:

The Ministry will organize quarterly gender and children policy and programme co-ordination meetings with key sector MDAs to build stronger partnership with all stakeholders and ensure effective gender and child-related programme implementation at all levels.

MOWAC will collaborate with NDPC and MOFEP to introduce Gender Budgeting across sectors and also for the District Assemblies.

Women empowerment programmes.

Implementation of Human Tra- fficking Law.

Increased advocacy at all levels, to enhance the protection of the Ghanaian child.

The Ministry will continue to disseminate Government Policies and Programmes at regional and district levels to enhance grass- roots participation in Ghana's develop-ment and enhance Good Governance.

The 2007 Draft Annual Budget Estimates

The Ministry has been allocated a total amount of thirty-four billion, and sixty-four million cedis (¢34,064,000,000.00). This is made up of the following components:

Government of Ghana (GOG) Sources

(¢)

Personal Emoluments -- 901,000,000.00

Administration -- 5,695,000,000.00

Service -- 7,531,000,000.00
Chairman of the Committee (Mrs. Esther Dappah Obeng) 1:15 p.m.


The Committee accordingly recom- mends to the House for approval the sum of thirty-four billion and sixty-four million cedis (¢34,064,000,000) for the Ministry of Women and Children's Affairs for the 2007 financial year.

Respectfully submitted.

Question proposed.
Mrs. Juliana Azumah-Mensah (NDC -- Ho East) 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion on the floor and in so doing I would like to raise one or two points.
Mr. Speaker, your Committee feels that this particular Ministry is a very important one because, as we all know, women and children all over the world are no doubt the vulnerable in our communities.
However, Mr. Speaker, creating a Ministry and paying lip-service to it, not giving it adequate resources to work with effectively to really have the needed impact on the targeted group is not good enough. Last year, the allocation for Women and Children was just around twenty-six billion cedis. This year, thirty- four billion cedis, plus a little, is still on the low side.
Mr. Speaker, having said that, it is very important that where micro-credits are being given, they should properly be monitored to make sure that they are disbursed fairly and equitably so that the impact can be seen and felt at the grass roots.
Mr. Speaker, your Committee also found out that it is important, if we are supposed to get this impact, that the Ministry collaborates more with other
relevant Ministries such as the Ministry of Health to address the rising infant and maternal mortality situation, water, education, to cut down the number of teenage pregnancy cases and to retain young people in school. Yesterday, we heard about the agricultural sector where women are doing very well, so the Ministry could work with the Ministry of Food and Agriculture.
Mr. Speaker, there is also the belief that some of the banks that are given monies to be given to the beneficiaries are somehow sitting on these monies and frustrating the beneficiaries. Mr. Speaker, it is therefore important to approach these banks and make sure they do the right things and not frustrate the poor beneficiaries.
Mr. Speaker, the Ministry of Women and Children's Affairs (MOWAC) continues to train a lot of female porters also known as kayayei in the districts -- a lot of resources are being put in to train them in skills of some sort. Mr. Speaker, we also know that these kayayei tend to come back to Accra or the bigger cities, leaving their sewing machines or whatever behind. I believe we have to look at this properly and see what is causing the problem before they come back again after having acquired those skills.
Mr. Speaker, with these few points, I urge hon. Members to approve the sum of 34 billion cedis-plus and hope to have a top-up from the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning later on in the year with a supplementary budget.
Mrs. Alice Teni Boon (NDC -- Lambussie) 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I also rise to impress upon hon. Colleagues to pass the budget for Ministry of Women and
Children's Affairs to enable them carry on with their activities.
Mr. Speaker, I want to talk on a few issues that I have observed. I think that if the Minister carries them on board it would help the Ministry a lot. Mr. Speaker, of late, we have seen a lot of Non-Governmental Organisations (NGOs) coming up and either pretending or claiming to be supporting women's issues here and there.
I know the Ministry is trying to monitor these various NGOs but I think it is important that the Ministry keeps an eye on them to see, at least, the impact of such NGOs in what they claim they are doing. It is very, very important. I know a lady who went for such training and according to her she did not even know what the NGO was. She said they were told to try and see how best they could do farming. So I actually do not know whether it was coming from the Ministry of Food and Agriculture or from the Ministry of Women and Children's Affairs.
But I think that it is important for the hon. Minister to keep an eye on such NGOs so that she will try to collaborate with them closely and make sure that whatever agenda they have would, at least, be on track.
Mr. Speaker, I also think that the various Ministries' desks need to be re- looked at, such that they would put a little bit of weight on the desks. Some of the desks are just there and I think that it will be appropriate if the Minister does bring the concerns of her Colleagues such that they will put some amount of impact on the activities of the various desks, so that they would give more effective assistance to the Ministry than they are doing now.
I know they can do better than what they are doing, but we need to add a little bit of persuasion. I do not think what they are doing is enough.
A clear example is the issue of infant mortality that is on the increase now. I think that the Ministry of Health needs to work alongside the Ministry of Women and Children's Affairs so that we will have a great feel of its impact on the ground.
I thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I urge all hon. Members to support the budget.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved:
That this honourable House approves the sum of ¢34,064,-000,000 for the services of the Ministry of Women and Children's Affairs for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Minister for Communications, are you ready? [Interruption] -- Well hon. Minister for Health, if you are here -- [Pause] -- Minister for the Interior, hon. Kan- Dapaah, are you ready?
ANNUAL ESTIMATES 1:25 p.m.

Minister for the Interior (Mr. Albert Kan-Dapaah) 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House approves the sum of ¢1,479,510,000,000 for the services of the Ministry of the Interior for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. Speaker, I need not reiterate the
importance of the security agencies, at this point in time, in our economic development. Last year, with a budget of ¢907 billion that was allocated to the
Chairman of the Committee (Mr. J. K. Hackman) 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion and in so doing to present the Committee's Report.
1.0 Introduction
1.1 Following the presentation by the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning of the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government to Parliament on Thursday, 16th November 2006, the Annual Budget Estimates of the Ministry of the Interior were referred to the Committee for its consideration and report, in accordance with article 179 of the Constitution and Standing Orders 140 (4) and 158 of the House.
1.2 The Committee met to deliberate on the estimates. In attendance were the hon. Minister for the Interior, his Deputy and officials from both the Ministry of the Interior and Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning.
1.3 The Ministry of the Interior consists of the Headquarters and the following
underlisted Agencies:
(a) Ghana Police Service
(b) Ghana Prisons Service
(c) Ghana National Fire Service
(GNFS)
(d) Ghana Immigration Service
(GIS)
(e) National Disaster Management Organization (NADMO)
(f) Narcotics Control Board
(NACOB)
The Ministry also has additional responsibility of overseeing the affairs of the Ghana Refugee Board and the National Commission on Small Arms.
2.0 Sector Performance in 2006
2.1 A total amount of ¢906.885 billion was allocated to the Ministry of the Interior for the 2006 Financial Year. This amount though not adequate, the Ministry was able to perform creditably within its budgetary constraints.
2.2 In the year under review, the Headquarters of the Ministry continued its co-ordination of activities with stakeholders to promote peace in the country. The Ministry also increased awareness on the dangers associated with the proliferation of small arms.
2.3 The Police Service on its part, recruited and trained 2,500 personnel, clothed them adequately and improved the development of its human resources. Police personnel attended both local and foreign training programmes. The Peace- keeping Documents Centre was started
Mr. A. K. Agbesi (NDC-- Ashaiman) 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to contribute in support of this motion and urge the House to approve the estimates for the Ministry and also to say that if it is possible, in view of the many problems associated with the various agencies under this Ministry, the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning could find ways and means to get more money for this Ministry.
Mr. Speaker, I get worried about the condition that faces the Police Service, the Fire Service, the Prisons Service and others. Indeed, Mr. Speaker, I have a situation at the Tema Harbour where the personnel at the Fishing Harbour Police Station face serious accommodation problems to the extent that newly posted officers have to sleep at the counter. They even have students' mattresses which they put at the counter and they sleep there and even run shift.
Mr. Speaker, the situation is even more serious at places where they call barracks. They have 12 feet by 12 feet rooms and and one is being occupied by a police officer with his wife and children. Mr. Speaker, this is an officer who is to go out and protect us so that we have peace in the system. This is an officer who is on call anytime to go and perform his duty.
Mr. Lee Ocran 1:25 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, I wanted to draw your attention to the fact that the hon. Minister
Mr. Kan-Dapaah 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I take very serious objection to it. My hon. Colleague has just made an excellent case for the Ghana Police Service and has ended by requesting that if need be, additional resources should be added to it. Mr. Speaker, I wonder how I could not have been listening to such an impressive submission.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
He has not finished. He is giving specific examples and making references to some situations that are worth listening to.
Mr. Agbesi 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, as I said, I have situations where police officers or police personnel are located in 12 feet by 12 feet single rooms and they live with their families. And I am saying that such a situation does not make it possible to perform to their best.
Mr. Speaker, some of their bungalows have not seen painting for the past twenty years. I have a big storey building in my constituency which houses the police. It is right by the roadside and it has not seen painting for years. In fact, I am organizing to paint it for them. But I think that the hon. Minister needs to do something and I am urging him to go out and look for something for the police.
Mr. Speaker, we have a situation where we do not even have fire tenders for the various stations. Ashaiman which is a fire- prone area is without a fire tender. We have made several requests and always we are faced with “there is no money to buy a fire tender”. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning must look seriously for money to get fire tenders for the Fire Service. This is because anytime
there is fire outbreak, you have to call Accra, you have to call VALCO and other places before you get services.
Mr. Speaker, our men who we put at these various places are indeed suffering for lack of residential and office accommodation. Mr. Speaker, I think that if we need to get our men to work for us, then we have to make sure that their accommodation is perfectly provided.
Mr. Speaker, I have been seeing policemen going on patrol duties in the night. Sometimes, I follow them. Sometimes, you would realize that they go into areas where there are no lights. they must go there to patrol the area. I have seen recently that they are digging on the Motorway and I believe they are going to put streetlights on the Motorway.
Mr. Speaker, sometimes we have to prioritize our needs. Putting streetlights on the Motorway and then putting lights at the various dark corners in our various constituencies, which is of priority? I believe that we need streetlights for the Motorway but for the meantime the corners, where the armed robbers have been hiding, where the thieves have been hiding to snatch our mobile phones need to be lighted.
I therefore urge the Ministry to look at those areas because the Motorway streetlights can wait a bit whilst we look at our various environments.
Mr. Speaker, this Ministry is one that we need to look at and I urge the hon. Minister to seriously work on the personnel.
With these few words, Mr. Speaker, I support the motion.
Mrs. Elizabeth K. T. Sackey (NPP -- Okaikoi North) 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion on the floor that the amount of ¢1,479,510,000,000 be
Mr. Chireh 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. We are talking about approving money for the Ministry of the Interior. I would advise and urge you to redirect my hon. Colleague not to be mentioning conflicts.
Mr. Labik 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am simply mentioning these conflicts because the police have a role to play in managing conflicts. I quite remember the role of the police when these conflicts actually erupted in my area. What I am saying is that most of these conflicts erupt at market places and the presence of the police in the market place makes the market a safe place. I quite remember that a policeman appearing in uniform in any of the villages in my constituency means peace in that particular town. That was why I said that there was the need for this Ministry to be given enough logistics to be able to recruit more policemen to post to most of these districts.
Mr. Speaker, the Bunkpurugu-Yunyoo

District is a newly-created one and therefore logistics in terms of personnel, in terms of vehicles, in terms of office accommodation are problems we face. I believe that if the Ministry were given more in terms of their budgetary allocation, my constituency would benefit more.

Mr. Speaker, I want to say that bushfires now are a problem in some of the areas in the north and there is the need to have the Ghana National Fire Service decentralized to most of these districts. Mr. Speaker, right down from Bunkpu-rugu, you can only see a fire tender after travelling over one hundred miles to Tamale.

There is no fire tender in Bunkpurugu; there is no fire tender in Gambaga; there is no fire tender in Walewale; there is no fire tender in Savelugu. You have to travel all the way to Tamale before you can see one. Therefore, there is the need for this Ministry to be supported so that the Ghana National Fire Service could be more decentralized to most of these districts so that they are given tenders if not for fighting fires, for carrying out the educational aspect of fire prevention in our districts.

For this reason, I wish to urge all hon. Members to support this motion so that the Ministry of the Interior can operate successfully for 2007.

Mr. J. Z. Amenowode (NDC --

Hohoe South): Mr. Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to contribute to this motion and to support it. I would like to direct my contribution to two vital areas.

Mr. Speaker, much has been said about the Ghana Police Service, their accommodation needs, but I want to talk about their physical appearance. Mr. Speaker, we all know that the way one

appears, the way one looks is a strong motivation in effective work. When you look at the uniforms, they are undesirable, old, worn out, faded.

In the Report of your Committee, Mr. Speaker, it was stated that a certain number had been employed and well provided for. I am inclined to believe that the Govern- ment has provided the uniforms but the Police are keeping the new ones for use maybe some time later. But if that is not the case, then their appearance should be encouraging enough.

There was a time I did mention something about the footwear. The sole of a normal policeman's footwear is kept on the road by the grace of lorry tyres. So I would implore the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning to adequately provide for the uniforms of our servicemen because their appearance alone could be a factor in their effectiveness as law enforcement people.

Another area under the Ministry that I want to dwell on is NADMO. Mr. Speaker, NADMO is woefully resourced to do its mandated work. For some years now in my constituency, NADMO has not been able to provide any assistance to fire victims, storm victims and victims of all major disasters that have occurred in the Hohoe South District. NADMO always complains about lack of resources.

So I would appeal to the hon. Minister to make sure that adequate funding is provided so that NADMO could provide its services. Now, it is a place where data on accidents and disasters are collected; nothing else is done there.

Mr. Speaker, with these few words, I want to support the motion and ask that resources be released to the Ghana Police Service, especially for their uniforms, and to NADMO to do their mandatory work.
Dr. Benjamin Kunbuor (NDC -- Lawra-Nandom) 1:45 p.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to make one or two comments in relation to the motion.
Mr. Speaker would realize that the number of agencies under the Ministry of the Interior is sufficiently large, and quite often one wonders whether they are not pseudo Ministries under one Ministry, and whether it is not because of that that the resource constraint has been quite remarkable.
I have gone through the Committee's
Report but I have also seen that there is something that has not been addressed quite seriously, and this has to do with building the capacity of the personnel of the various agencies.
Mr. Speaker, there are some disturbing
developments that are coming up, particularly now, in relation to Ghana National Fire Service which are likely to affect morale. It has been all over the place that there have been unprecedented across- the-board promotions that took place in the Ghana National Fire Service. Yet if you look at the Ghana National Fire Service Regulations, some particular category of staff can only be promoted after written examinations.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon. Member for Lawra-Nandom, you are saying that you have information that
people who sat the examinations and did not answer questions have been promoted. Is that the impression you are giving to this House?
Dr. Kunbuor 1:45 p.m.
That is so, Mr. Speaker. I am sure the hon. Minister is here. If he had not certainly heard of any of these issues, he would raise a point of order. But it is something that is common for those of us who have worked with that sector for quite some time, and it is important that it is highlighted to show that there is a concern about it and that should not lead to further disruptions of the work of the Service. That is the purpose for which I am raising this issue.
Mr. Kan-Dapaah 1:45 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, I was not going to comment but since he said it, I think it is important for me to say that I am not aware of the particular problem that he is talking about.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
You are not aware?
Mr. Kan-Dapaah 1:45 p.m.
No, Mr. Speaker, not in the Ghana National Fire Service.
Dr. Kunbuor 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am sure he will eventually be aware of it at the shortest possible time.
But Mr. Speaker, my main concern has been to deal with two important areas that I guess the Ministry should begin preparing for; and that has to do with an overhaul and realignment of the legal regime for the Narcotics Control Board in which some preparatory work has actually started. If you see the outline of what the Ministry is putting in place, in relation to the narcotic problem in this country, it is such a major policy issue that some budgetary appropriations ought to be anticipated.
Mr. E. T. Mensah (NDC -- Ningo- Prampram) 1:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would be very brief because a lot of the things have been addressed already. Mr. Speaker, when you look at various Budget Statement Reports from the Committee over the last seven or eight years, we have been talking about the same thing and always lamenting.
If you look at the Committee's Report on page 7,
“The Committee observed that the Ministry and its Agencies are seriously handicapped in the perfor- mances of their functions by a combination of factors, prominent among them being the serious lack of logistics, especially vehicles, office and communication equip- ment --”
How can we have such agencies working without effective communication equipment? I think that this goes beyond the hon. Minister.
We need to appeal to Government because whenever we have special occasions, events or even disasters, we are able to mobilize resources to deal with them. Let us look at the problem of equipping the police and other agencies under the Ministry of the Interior as special events or whatever.
Mr. Speaker, $20 million for the celebration of 50 years? Can $10 million be given to them to address some of the issues? So Mr. Speaker, I am pleading that Government takes this Ministry seriously.
We have complained about our security, armed robbers are all over the place. I remember there was a time that some people called the Nima police and they realized that the armed robbers
Minister for the Interior (Mr. Kan- Dapaah 1:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think I can only thank my hon. Friends mainly for the positive comments they have made with respect to this request. I want to thank them and to assure them that we would take the pieces of advice that they have given and try to work on them.
We also want to thank them for the concerns that they have expressed, unanimously, for our allocation to be increased in the future. We thank them.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved:
That this honourable House approves the sum of ¢1,479,510,- 000,000 for the services of the Ministry of the Interior for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 1:55 p.m.
Hon.
Members, I wish to inform you that we would have extended Sitting. It is getting to 2 o'clock so be informed accordingly.
ANNUAL ESTIMATES 1:55 p.m.

Mr. Speaker, the following are our achievements in the current (2006) year 1:55 p.m.
Passage of the Persons With Disability Act, 2006 Act 715;
Passage of Council for Technical and Vocational Education and Training Act (COVET), 2006, Act
718;
Various social interventions to alleviate the plight of the extreme poor, the excluded and children;
Two fora on “Developing a Sustainable Incomes Policy for the Public Sector” which is informing decision on a framework for enhanced public sector compen- sation were organized in collabo- ration with the Ministries of Finance and Public Sector Reform;
Continuation of HIV/AIDS Work- place Activities to curb the incidence of the pandemic, and various others. Training of 1,250 deprived and disadvantaged youth in technical, vocational skills and leadership roles.
Final ly, a ful l secretar iat was established to manage the National Youth Employment Programme which was launched by His Excellency the President as a tangible intervention to address youth unemployment.
We have various constraints -- [Interruption] -- Mr. Speaker, I beg to crave your indulgence that I would be skipping most of the text but expect that the Hansard would capture everything.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 1:55 p.m.
Well, I have on previous occasions disagreed with that. Indeed, if you are on the floor and the document you have in your hand is not available to hon. Members, assuming there were some queries, maybe -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Boniface 1:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, for
Mr. K. A. Okerchiri 1:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I wanted your direction in this matter. If the hon. Minister decides, as it were, that he wants to lay what he has at the Table and therefore would want to just read portions and have the entire Report captured by the Hansard --
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:05 p.m.
Yes, I have told you that it is a bit tricky, in the sense that all other documents are laid before us, and copies are given to hon. Members. In case there is a portion which Members object to, or are not agreeable to, I would not have it go into the Hansard. You have the opportunity to say we do not agree. On the other hand, if the document is in his bosom and he decides or intimates that he wants to present it and that we should agree, or the Speaker should agree that the Hansard should capture it, then it goes into the Hansard; and we have nothing to say about that.
In actual fact, in some cases hon. Members may not agree to it entirely.
Therefore there is no clear-cut position on the matter. But it is not the best for the practices in this House.
Nii Adu Mante: Mr. Speaker, what I am trying to say is that as at now, we are not privy to what he has.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:05 p.m.
That is all right.
Nii Adu Mante: So he cannot say that the Hansard should capture it.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:05 p.m.
Yes, hon. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu, do you want to say something?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 2:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, we are talking about a document and we need not agree with the contents of the document that he is laying. We need not agree; but all that he wants to do is to lay it so that it becomes part of the documents that this Parliament will be availing itself of. It does not mean that we have to agree to the content of it or whatever everybody says.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:05 p.m.
You do not have to agree to what everybody says on this floor. But when it is read, sometimes you say that it should be expunged, because it is not proper, it is not accurate, it is misleading and so on and so forth. So when somebody has not indeed given copies of a document to hon. Members here and he comes to submit it to us, it is not a better statement.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 2:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, if a document that has been gazetted is being referred to, that one need not be tendered. The person can merely refer to it. If on the other hand, the person making a submission is referring to any other document that is not known to this House, the person could be called upon, in view of the factual nature of the
presentation that he is making, to submit it to this House.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:05 p.m.
Hon. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu, you need not split hairs over it. We are talking about a document that you may ask the person to submit. Indeed, if it has been done, then you have the opportunity to comment thereon. But in this case this is a debate. It is moving and it should be concluded. Having had it concluded, you will have no opportunity to comment on it afterwards. But as I said, there is no clear- cut position on the matter. If you want it done that way -- But I have already indicated that.
Mr. Boniface 2:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I will continue.
The above achievements were not without some constraints. The problems included:
Insufficient funds and associated delays in their release that hamper our activities in favour of the poor, vulnerable, disadvantaged and the destitute; Inadequate staff especially of the professional/technical class due to lack of funds to recruit;
Lack of logistics (vehicles for monitoring and evaluation), office equipment (PCs, fax machines, etc) and unsuitable office premises just to mention a few.
2007 Programme
Mr. Speaker, the Ministry will in 2007
continue work on ongoing programmes and activities. It will also formulate and implement some new strategic activities and initiatives.
Specifically the Ministry will:
Complete and implement the National Employment Policy to address employment, decent work agenda and labour migration;
Develop the Labour Market Information System to provide relevant information to all key stakeholders in the areas of employment levels, unemployment rates, wages and training;
Pilot a Livelihood Empowerment Against Poverty (LEAP) programme to provide conditional social grants to the extreme poor with no alternative means of meeting their subsistence needs and uncon- ditional grants to individuals with limited or no productive capacity. Target groups include extreme poor farmers and fisherfolk, orphans and vulnerable children and lactating mothers with HIV/AIDS among others;
Collaborate with and participate in programmed activities of inter- national Agencies such as the ILO, AU, ECA, et cetera for quality assurance, adherence to standards and adoption of best practices for employment, labour and wages matters;
Strengthen institutional capacity- building for all categories of staff to improve upon service delivery;
Continue with the National Youth
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YOUTH AND EMPLOYMENT 2:05 p.m.

EXPENDITURE BREAKDOWN 2:05 p.m.

Chairman of Committee (Mr. Paul Okoh) 2:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion and in doing so, present the Report of the Committee.
Mr. Speaker, I will crave your indulgence to read only the “Conclusion” and pray that Hansard captures the entire Report as having been read.
1.0 Introduction
In pursuance of article 179 (1), (2) and (10) of the Constitution of the Republic and Standing Order 140 (1) the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2007 Financial Year was presented to the House on Thursday, 16th November 2006 by the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, hon. Kwadwo Baah-Wiredu.
In compliance with Standing Orders 140 (4) and 184, the 2007 Draft Estimates of the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment were referred to the Joint
Committee for consideration and report, and the Joint Committee having held a meeting to so consider the Estimates reports as follows:
1.1 Acknowledgement
The Committee is grateful to the Sector Deputy Ministers, the Chief Director and Officials of the Ministry who attended the Committee Budget hearing session to assist the Committee deliberate on the Estimates.
2.0 Reference Documents
In considering the estimates of the Sector Ministry the underlisted documents were referred to:
i. The 1992 Constitution of the Republic
ii. The Budget Estimates and Economic Po l icy o f the Government of Ghana for the 2006 Financial Year.
iii. The Budget Estimates and Economic Po l icy o f the Government of Ghana for the 2007 Financial Year.
iv. The Annual Estimates of the Ministry of Public Sector Reforms.
v. The Standing Orders of the Parliament of Ghana.
3.0 Mission Statement of the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment
The Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment exists to promote sustainable employment opportunities, management and vocational skills development, training and retraining, harmonious labour relations, safe and healthy working environment, co-operatives and group formation and social integration of
the vulnerable, the excluded and the disadvantaged for the development and growth of the economy.
The Ministry does this through formation and implementation of policies, co-ordination, monitoring and evaluation of performance of the sector; guided by belief in improved productivity, efficiency, equity and prompt responsiveness to clients. The latter comprises the labour force, employers, people with disability, the disadvantaged and the vulnerable.
4 .0 Object ives of the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment
In order to realize its Mission Statement, the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment has set these objectives for itself:
To become a high profile, well- resourced and efficient as well as effective Ministry committed to human resource development.
To create a sustainable environ- ment for gainful employment.
To enhance the social well-being of all Ghanaians.
Challenges
In spite of the apparent high budgetary allocation for the year under review, the Ministry encountered a number of difficulties some of which are outlined below:
4.1 Inadequate Personnel
The Joint Committee noted with serious concern, the inadequate staffing levels of the Ministry and observed that this could have an adverse effect on the Ministry with respect to its set objectives which were considered vital to creating a sustainable environment for gainful employment.
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Mr. Dan Abodakpi (NDC -- Keta) 2:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion on the floor. But in so doing I want to make a few comments.
Mr. Speaker, clearly this Ministry has a very wide mandate which can inure to the good of the economy generally. It has become clear, reading from the presentation in the main Budget document and the discussions, arguably, that the Youth Employment Programme was one flagship project that the Ministry undertook in 2006.
Even though it operated within just four months some relative successes were achieved. However, my concern is that the department that was set up under the Ministry to oversee this important programme is not captured in the budget estimate. Certainly, that department has to meet the personal emoluments, that department has to meet administration costs, et cetera, but these were missing and we could not get any real explanation for that kind of situation.
As we stand now, one does not know how many people are in that department, what administrative problems or difficulties they are having and how they are going to resolve those problems. I think that we will need some clarification on this matter in order for us to appreciate fully the import of that department.
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Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:25 p.m.
Hon.
Manu, I think that will be enough for you. Let someone else also make a contribution. Yes, hon. Gidisu.
Mr. Joe Kwashie Gidisu (NDC --
Central Tongu): Mr. Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to contribute to the debate. Mr. Speaker, I would want to say that the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment is one of the very loaded Ministries in the country. And looking at the resources that are made available to them, they are always under-resourced.
Mr. Speaker, if one looked at the various departments and agencies under the Ministry, one would have expected that they would be doing more than they are doing now to generate internally available resources for themselves. Mr. Speaker, I am saying this with reference to your Committee's Report.
Mr. Speaker, your Committee's Report noted that, for example, for the 2006 financial year, the MDAs were able to generate ¢12.9 billion but for 2007 they estimated only ¢13.5 billion. So what is the forward-looking with regard to such internally-generated funds (IGF)? Mr.
Speaker, if for 2006 they were able to generate ¢12.9 billion and for 2007 they have indicated ¢13.5 billion as the amount that the MDAs are aiming at generating then it is a very serious situation.
At one time last year we said a lot of the MDAs could be self-accounting. For example, the Management Development and Productivity Institute (MDPI) had the same focus as GIMPA and given the necessary encouragement they should be able to do more and sustain themselves and a lot more also of other departments and agencies under them.
Mr. Speaker, apart from that, we have been quite worried also about the fluid relationship between the Ghana Cooperative Council and the Ghana Cooperative College. If you look at these two departments, the distinction in terms of job orientation is very, very lean, and one would have expected that for such a long time now it would have been possible to come out with a unification or perhaps synchronization of their activities so as to reduce their operational costs.
Mr. Speaker, for sometime now we have been talking about youth policy. In the hon. Minister's reaction he said that one of the major activities that they are trying to formalize this year is a national youth policy, which has been in a draft form. Mr. Speaker, I want to challenge the situation that the youth policy that the NDC came up with and the draft policy of the present government -- The only difference is the distinction between the age of a youth which NPP put at 29 and the NDC put at 31.
Mr. Speaker, apart from the age difference, it is word-to-word in the draft policy that would be brought before this House if it would ever be brought. So in effect, it is only postponing the situation
--[Interruption] -- I am speaking as a former Ranking Member of the sector.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:25 p.m.
Hon.
Gidisu, you should be winding up. I give you half a minute to do so.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 2:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Manu 2:25 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr.
Speaker, the hon. Member is giving us a very serious misinformation and making a very serious allegation as well. He has just told us about a letter written by somebody to chairpersons of a political party. He has not told us about the content. What is wrong with somebody writing to the chairman of a party about employment? Is it not information he is giving out? And are we not urged as hon. Members to give out information?
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 2:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, for
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 2:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:25 p.m.
Now, hon.
Gidisu, that will be all for you.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 2:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, to
end I want the hon. Minister to look at the situation of these jobs for the youth throughout the country by especially depoliticising the situation so as to make it a national programme which will be able to support the youth across board.
Mr. Pele Abuga(NDC -- Chiana/ Paga) 2:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to contribute to the motion to approve the estimates of the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment. Mr. Speaker, before I make -- [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:25 p.m.
Hon.
Members, what are you doing? Let us have some order here.
Mr. Abuga 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have a
few comments about the allocation. Mr. Speaker, on page 7 of the Committee's Report, you would find that the GOG fund has been broken down into the various sectors and the allocations made. But Mr. Speaker, there is total silence as to the
other sources or other funds that would be available to the Ministry for 2007. The hon. Minister might want to clarify how those other funds are going to be spent.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member who spoke earlier mentioned that we do not find in the estimates of the Ministry the portion that is allocated to the Youth Employment Programme. If you add the ¢1.3 trillion that was earmarked for the programme for 2006 and the Ministry's ¢73 billion, then definitely the volume of allocation to that Ministry should not each ¢73 billion. That is why we are much concerned about its place in the estimates of the Ministry.
The programme directly falls under Manpower, Youth and Employment Ministry so we expect that everything under the programme would be controlled by the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment; otherwise your sub- committees would be handicapped in trying to monitor and do their oversight work on the Ministry.
Mr. Speaker, another problem about this Youth in Employment Programme is the fact that many of the sources of those funds are from statutory funds like HIPC, VAT, GETFund, Road Fund, and so forth. Mr. Speaker, at the committee meeting the hon. Minister indicated that they got 5 per cent of the HIPC fund allocation. If all these funds are statutory funds and they are fixed, and we know the percentages to be taken from those statutory funds, then where was the balance of the funds lodged? Why were they not released to the Ministry? Why was it the case that only 5 per cent of the HIPC fund was allocated to the Ministry for the programme?
Again, Mr. Speaker, we know that ¢1.3 trillion was what was earmarked for
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:35 p.m.
Hon. Member, speak to the Chair, if anybody wants to raise any intervention, or come by way of an intervention, the person should catch the eye of the Chair.
Mr. Abuga 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, as at the period the Committee met to examine the estimates of the Ministry, they had succeeded in employing, according to their own statement, about thirty-nine thousand and I hear the figure now is seventy thousand or slightly above seventy thousand. Mr. Speaker, how much of the ¢1.3 trillion went into the programme to the extent that only seventy thousand of employable youth were employed in this country?
Mr. Speaker, we also want to urge that the Ministry, has under its responsibility a lot of youth training institutes and we know that many of these youth who have been trained in these institutes are capable individuals who, given the necessary motivation and help, can really be placed in very lucrative employment areas.
Mr. Speaker, why is it not possible for the Ministry, rather than just go and start afresh with some youth and train them and give them employment, to allocate some of these funds to some of these institutes to strengthen them, make them better employed because they have been trained already? Why do we go and start with training fresh youth when some
youth have already been trained? We have many of these institutes spread all over the country. It would do the country a lot of good if we handled those we have already trained, allocate funds to them and help them to settle down, rather than allocate these funds to train fresh youth and bring them into employment.
Mr. Speaker, there is also the disturbing problem of the Ministry employing youth and releasing them to some of these agencies, like the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), Customs, Excise and Preventive Service and other organizations.
Mr. Opare-Hammond 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I heard my hon. Colleague make a statement that is not correct.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:35 p.m.
Which statement are you referring to?
Mr. Opare-Hammond 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, he is misleading this House and the entire nation. No one is recruiting youth and giving them to the various agencies that he was talking about. Mr. Speaker, what is happening is that the Youth in Employment Programme is helping to identify young people who have the training and requisite qualification to be engaged in such areas. So they are only being used as a kind of conduit through which these people can be engaged.
Mr. Speaker, we need to correct that so
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:35 p.m.
You are out of order; let him continue.
Mr. Abuga 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, some of these agencies are well-established agencies; they have their own procedures of recruitment. They are well versed in the issue of recruitment; they have their channels and they have a way of reaching out. They normally advertise -- [Interruption.]
Mrs. Frema Osei-Opare 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Youth in Employment Programme is not a substitute for their regular recruitment. All departments and agencies have their personnel employment (PE) budget line and they are at liberty to recruit as and when they want. The youth employment is not a substitution for that; it is an industrial placement to give the youth some experience.
Mr. Abuga 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am surprised the hon. Deputy Minister is saying this because we all know that unemployed graduates and other youth are being recruited by the Ministry and they are being attached to some of these agencies. Mr. Speaker, what do they mean when they say they are recruiting somebody and attaching such a person to an agency? What do they mean?
What it simply means is that they are attaching these youth to these agencies to do the work of the agencies. I am saying that rather than recruiting the youth and attaching them to the agencies, they should allow the agencies themselves to recruit the youth and train them as they normally do, because they are better suited for that purpose than the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment.
Mr. Speaker, one last thing that I would mention has to do with the sustainability of the programme. An hon. Member
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:35 p.m.
Yes, a Member has already touched on it; do you want to repeat that as well?
Mr. Abuga 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have a variation of that point to make. Mr. Speaker, the programme, as we look at it, has to be properly analyzed and a sustainability element introduced into it. I say this because you would find that in many of the areas, the models that have been generated are areas where the youth are recruited and it is hoped that once they are given the support then they are expected to continue on their own.
Mr. Speaker, unless there is a mechanism in place to ensure that some of the youth -- Particularly, if you take youth in agriculture, you release funds to the youth to go to some areas to farm rice, for instance, and if after a season, for weather conditions, especially in the north, the farm or the farming enterprise is not successful, what happens next? It means that the following year you still have to make funds available to the same youth to go back to the agricultural area to farm.
Mr. Speaker, I am saying this because if we do not analyze the programme well and determine areas where sustainability is very, very minimal and areas where sustainability is very permanent, the danger is that we would dissipate a lot of funds but at the end of the day there would still be unemployment in the country; and it is not going to assist our developmental efforts.
Alhaji Muntaka Mubarak 2:35 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, I want your indulgence and guidance here. Mr. Speaker, when you look at our Standing
Order 109, it categorically states that we cannot be putting Questions for major decisions to be taken when we do not have about half -- Mr. Speaker, I am drawing your attention because a lot of hon. Members have gone out and I believe we can call them into the Chamber so that we would be able to have smooth business.
Mr. Abuga 2:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, having touched on some of these issues, I think that the Ministry has very laudable plans and we should support the Ministry in its efforts.
Mr. Lee Ocran (NDC -- Jomoro) 2:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion on the floor and I think the Ministry should be given the allocation they have asked for.
This is a Ministry that has a very big responsibility, especially in a country where there is very high youth unemployment. We have to find them jobs, and so on and so forth. However, I have a problem with the National Youth Employment Programme and that was why I stood up. Whether the youth are going to be employed in sweeping the streets, in policing villages, in chasing grass-cutters, it is employment; they will be receiving some salary.
Mr. Manu 2:45 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member is misleading the House. Mr. Speaker, there is no DCE
who is doing recruitment for the Youth in Employment Programme. The youth employment centres have got coordinators in all districts who are in charge and they do the recruitment, not DCEs.
Mr. Ocran 2:45 p.m.
Maybe he does not know who the chairman of the committee is. Mr. Speaker, everybody pays a tax in this country; some of the funds vired for this programme come from the National Health Insurance, GETFund, from HIPC, et cetera. We all suffer. Everywhere you go, you all pay money. If you are giving employment to people, you just give employment to people because in communities like mine, you know who is who. When a whole village sends a list and they map it, and they know who to employ, it does not create good relationships in our communities.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:45 p.m.
Order! Order! Allow the hon. Member to make his point.
Mr. Ocran 2:45 p.m.
You always keep something; but give others also something. To completely isolate people, I think, does not help. It creates tension. So I am using this to appeal to -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Okoh 2:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member said that he had been in that business for a long time; is it a confession that during his time he was doing the wrong thing and now he knows that he was wrong and so he wants -- [Inter-ruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:45 p.m.
You are out of order. He never said he was doing anything wrong.
Mr. Ocran 2:45 p.m.
So I am trying to appeal to the hon. Minister to try and moderate
Minister for Manpower, Youth and Employment (Mr. A. Saddique Boniface) 2:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thank you for this opportunity; I have taken note of all the comments made by my hon. Colleagues. But then I would need to make a few clarifications on some of the issues raised. One -- to do with the sustainability and two -- to do with some of the models.
I realized that my Colleagues were just hitting at only one model, and that has to do with the internship. The internship is where the various Departments, Ministries or Organizations do apply wanting certain categories of people to be placed in their organizations.
Let us say the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) or Electricity Company of Ghana (ECG) is in need of a particular group of people with certain backgrounds, then they apply for it. We look into our registers and then release those names to them. So this is just one out of the 10 models and we are not in a closed circuit model; every blessed day, we think and come out with new models. So I want to assure you that those ones are always being refined and corrections are always made.
Secondly, to do with the sustainability, we are thinking of entry and exit points. If you take the case of agriculture, we more or less finance the ploughing, provide all the inputs and support them. At the end of the day, one of our modules has to do with marketing. We buy off, like a commodity market, from them and so we are always guiding them. So if it is in the process for at least three years, by the end of two years, in good environment, they should be able to come out and support themselves.
If you look at auxiliary nursing, they are supporting assistants and the intention of this programme is to get people who have the intent or the intention to take either nursing or teaching as a profession, and not as a hobby. So by the end of the day, an agreement would be signed between the District Assemblies and the products, after a year or two.
So we just sponsor them to go to training colleges, come back by signing the bond, and staying there. At least for each period, you have people in the classroom. So I want to assure hon. Members that we are taking note of all these comments.
With information, communication technology (ICT) -- we train and then help them settle on their own. I wish to thank you very much. The community protection is not meant to do any politics but protect the community. So I want to assure you that all these things are being taken note of.
Another point has to do with employing. My hon. Colleague is not here but he did mention somebody writing a letter and inviting polling assistants or polling agents to meet, with a headed form. Well, that could happen in his constituency but this particular programme is not a political programme; it is a programme that is a national programme. And I can assure him that it is not a partisan programme; it is not meant for one party. It is meant for all political parties in this country. Every individual has the opportunity to benefit from this programme.
I can assure you that there were some people who wanted to hide under the cover of this programme to sell the employment form just because people were in such dire need of jobs. Those people have been arrested and prosecuted, because the forms are not for sale.
I know hon. Colleagues who have been able to get their people placed; and on the forms we do not ask you to identify your political affiliation or your tribal inclination. All that is needed is to get the form filled. They should see me and we will support. It has nothing to do with politics; it is non-partisan.

Maj. (Dr.) (Alhaji) M. Ahmed (retd.): Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister is saying the programme is not political. I just want to find out whether in the next election the NPP would like to use it on their campaign platform, that they created the Youth Employment Programme.
Mr. Boniface 2:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am glad my hon. Colleague has asked this question. I believe that this issue of unemployment is a global issue. All Heads of State in the world are crying as to how to solve unemployment. It is a major political issue. And of course, we are not saying it is a partisan issue. Even in our various political manifestos we have unemployment as a problem.
I would be the number one person to mount the platform and talk about how I have been able to create jobs -- [Hear! Hear!] Let me get it clearly. When at the committee meeting they mentioned that 39,000 jobs had been created, right now I can confirm that 78,800 jobs have been created under the National Youth Employment Programme. I am prepared to bring the figures. So I will be the number one person to mention it. It is political, but it is non-partisan.
So Mr. Speaker, I want to assure my
senior Colleague on the other side that on the issue of sustainability, it is a very serious issue that we are considering. I want to assure them that this thing will be taken and we will make sure that this one would be done properly; and I am prepared to take his advice and support at any time. So on that note, I want to assure hon. Colleagues that I thank them so much for supporting this proposal.

Question put and motion agreed to. Resolved:

That this honourable House approves the sum of 216,771,- 000,000 under Head 24 of the Medium-Term Expenditure Frame- work (MTEF) for the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment for the fiscal year 2007.
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Minister for Manpower, Youth and Employment (Mr. A. S. Boniface) 2:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this august House approves the total sum of seven billion, eight hundred and twenty million cedis (¢7,820,000,000) for the National Labour Commission.
Mr. Speaker, the amount has been voted under Head 4101010100.
Mr. Speaker, the National Labour Commission was established under section 135 of the Labour Act 2003, Act 651 to perform among others, the settlement of industrial disputes; investigate labour- related complaints, in particular unfair labour disputes; and to promote effective labour co-operation between labour and management.
Mr. Speaker, section 148 of Act 651 provides that,
Mr. Speaker, the Commission has three broad objectives 2:55 p.m.
To promote a peaceful and harmonious industrial relations environment through the use of flexible labour market practices to attract investors both foreign and local for the growth of the economy.
To promote industrial democracy and social dialogue
To develop a peaceful working environment for the enhancement of productivity.
Mr. Speaker, the objectives outlined above and translated into activities are closely linked to the aims and objectives of the GPRS II as follows:
Ensuring the implementation and enforcement of the Labour Law, which protects and guarantees wages and incomes, job security, health and the welfare of workers.
Strengthening the tripartite process on employment and social development.
Maintaining the principles of social dialogue.
Mr. Speaker, in the 2006 fiscal year, a total amount of five billion, six hundred and sixty-three million cedis (¢5,663,- 000,000) was allocated to the Commission to implement its planned projects and programmes. Even though the amount was woefully inadequate, the Commission was able to carry out a lot of programmes
using the modest budgetary allocation.
Mr. Speaker, during the current year, the Commission succeeded in achieving the following results --
In 2006, industrial relations posed some major challenges mostly from the public sector; but the Commission was able to manage the situation to minimize the losses which would have normally occurred as a result of these industrial actions.
Developed its Regulations in accordance with section 152 of Act 651 to regulate the dispute settle- ment procedures.
Intervened in a dispute involving the thirty-two (32) unions of the Public Services Workers' Union and this prevented any industrial unrest.
Organizat ion of educational workshops for some government sector employees to sensitize them on the Act. Some of the beneficiaries were the Joint Consultative Forum -- CSA, GRNA, JUSAG and GNAT, the Polytechnic Teachers' Association of Ghana (POTAG) and the Health Sector made up of representatives of the health workers' groups and the administrators.
Trainer of Trainers Workshop for Information Officers of the Information Services Department. The trained officers who were selected from the southern sector are to assist the Commission in its educational programmes on the Act.
Product ion of user- f r iendly information brochures on key provisions of the Act.
Mr. Speaker, the Commission has up-to-date received over one thousand
(1,000) cases made up of both individual and collective disputes. Eighty per cent of the cases have been successfully resolved, whilst 20 per cent are going through the process of resolution.
Mr. Speaker, I am requesting for the sum of seven billion, eight hundred and twenty million cedis (¢7,820,000,000) to enable the Commission work towards the attainment of its programmes and objectives in the 2007 fiscal year.
Personal Emoluments
Mr. Speaker, in the year 2007, the Commission intends to recruit additional staff for the Secretariat. The recruitment is to enable the Commission to respond timely to the complaints and petitions received, and which are currently on the rise. The allocation of an amount of ¢1,995,000,000 for Personal Emoluments is only enough to allow the Commission to beef up its staff strength at the headquarters as the Commission would not be able to open the three Regional Committees of the Commission as planned.
Administration Expenses
Mr. Speaker, the Commission has been allocated an amount of ¢826,000,000 for Administration activities. Administration expenses are made up of -- payment of rent, Commissioners' allowances, insurance, printed materials and stationery, maintenance of plant and equipment, payment of some allowances to deserving staff, servicing of meetings, office consumables, etc. This amount allocated to the Commission under this item is woefully inadequate.
The implication is that, the Commission would have to choose between the payment of rent or Commissioners' allowances
Chairman of the Committee (Mr. Paul Okoh) 2:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion and in doing so, present the Report of the Committee.
1.0 Introduction
In pursuance of article 179 (1), (2) and 10 of the Constitution of the Republic and Standing Order 140 (1) the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2007 Financial Year was presented to the House on Thursday, 16th November 2006 by the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, hon. Kwadwo Baah-Wiredu.
In compliance with Standing Orders 140 (4) and 184, the 2007 Draft Estimates of the Ministry of Public Sector Reforms were referred to the Select Committee for consideration and report, and the
Committee having held a meeting to so consider the Estimates reports as follows:
1.1 Acknowledgement
The Committee is grateful to the Sector Minister, the Chief Director and officials of the Ministry who attended the Committee Budget hearing session to assist the Committee deliberate on the Estimates.
2.0 Reference Documents
In considering the Estimates of the Sector Ministry the underlisted documents were referred to:
i. The 1992 Constitution of the Republic
ii. The Budget Statement and Economic Po l icy o f the Government of Ghana for the 2006 Financial Year
iii. The Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Govern- ment of Ghana for the 2007 Financial Year
iv. The Standing Orders of the Parliament of Ghana
3 .0 Mis s ion S ta tement o f the National Labour Commission
The National Labour Commission exists to develop and sustain a peaceful and harmonious industrial relations environment through the use of effective dispute resolution practices, promotion of cooperation among the Labour market players and mutual respect for their rights and responsibilities.
4 .0 Object ives of the National Labour Commission
In order to realize its mission, the National Labour Commission has tasked itself with the following objectives:
To promote a peaceful and harmonious industrial relations environment through the use of flexible Labour market practices to attract investors both foreign and local for the growth of the economy.
To strengthen the institutional capacity of the commission to discharge its functions.
To promote industrial democracy and social dialogue.
To develop a peaceful working environment for the enhancement of productivity.
4.1 National Labour Commission Budget in Relation to GRRS II
Ensuring the implementation and enforcement of the Labour Law which protects and guarantees wages and incomes, job security, health and the welfare of workers.
Strengthening the tripartite process on employment and social develop- ment.
Maintaining the principles of social dialogue.
5.0 Review of the 2006 Performance of the Commission
In order to achieve the set objectives, the National Labour Commission was allocated an amount of five billion, six hundred and sixty-three million cedis (¢5,663,000,000) under head 185 for its operationalization in the 2006 Financial Year.
A tabular representation of the allocation with respect to the various expenditure items are as follows:
Nonetheless, the commission made significant achievements which are worthy of mention.
5.1.1 General Overview
In 2006, industrial relations posed some chal lenges most ly from th e medical and teaching personnel in the public sector. These agitations were related to the request for enhanced remunerations and improved conditions of service.
The agitations from these sectors led
to nationwide strikes. The commission intervened in accordance with the Law, and called the parties to order using the dispute settlement mechanisms. There were a number of agitations from other sectors as well. These disputes would normally have resulted in strikes or lockouts, but with the Commission's intervention, the man-hours, revenue and job losses which would have been lost as a result were halted.
Some of the institutions involved in the industrial disputes and which the Commission intervened to prevent any industrial action were:
Meteorological Services Depart- ment
Customs, Excise and Preventive Service
The thirty-two (32) Unions under the Public Services Workers' Union
Barclays Bank of Ghana Limited
Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA)
5.1.2 Resolution of Cases
These Commission successfully resolved industrial disputes comprising both individual and collective disputes.
Chairman of the Committee (Mr. Paul Okoh) 2:55 p.m.


The classification of cases are as follows:

Summary Dismissals

Unfair Termination

Retirement/End of Service Benefits Unpaid Salaries

Workmen compensation

Redundancy/Lay-off/severance pay Others (non-payment of social security, non-compliance with signed agreements, etc.)

Various amounts of compensation were also received and paid to beneficiaries.

The amount received was about ¢1 billion. Those amounts paid to beneficiaries would enable them engage in various income-generating and self-employment activities. Employment generation was therefore enhanced.

The total number of cases received to date is 1,000. About 80 per cent of the cases have been successful resolved, whilst the 20 per cent is going through the process of resolution.

The Committee places on record its satisfaction with the recognition of the Commission by stakeholders of the labour front which is evident in the number of petitions received and more particularly the level of compliance with the Commission's ruling which is about 80 per cent..

5.1.3 Sensitisation/Training Workshop on Act 651

In order to sensitize the stakeholders

on the provisions of the Labour Act, the Commission held training and educational programmes for the following stake- holders:

The Health Workers' Group made up of, medical doctors,

Pharmacists, nurses, clinicians and hospital administrators.

The joint consultative forum -- Civil Servants Association, Ghana Registered Nurses' Association, Ghana National Association of Teachers and the Judicial Services Staff Associations.

The Polytechnic Teachers' Association of Ghana 2007 Budgetary Allocation for the National Labour Commission. In order to achieve the set objective for the 2007 Financial Year, the National Labour Commission has been allocated an amount of seven billion, eight hundred and twenty million cedis (¢7,820,000,000.00) from GoG Sources under Head 185 for its operation.

The table below presents the allocation with respect to the various expenditure items as follows:

6.2 Analysis of the 2007 Budgetary Allocation

A cursory glance at the figure 3 above indicates that on the whole, there was virtually a change in the budgetary allocations for the two financial years.

There were significant changes, positively in the provisions made for P.E, Administration, Service and Investment, the allocation cannot sustain the Commissions objectives for 2007 Financial year.

6.3 The Commission plans to step up its educational programme to cover a wide area of the country. The purpose is

to have many stakeholders informed of the provisions of the Act. According to the Commission, this could be achieved subject to the availability of funds.

6.4 Due to the change in the industrial Nations dispensation organized workers in the public sector have now registered as trade unions and they believe that all rights of a trade union should be conferred especially with the issue of collective bargaining certificate. The Commission thought it is important to hold educational workshops for such identified groups and educate them on the process of unionization and collective bargaining.

6.5 The Commission also intends to produce a TV series on the Labour Act, 2003, Act 651, advertise jingles, organise educational workshop for northern sector -- Information Officers of the Information Service Department sensitization workshop for the Executive- Ministers and deputy Ministers of State and recruitment of additional staff. All such activities, the Committee noted would go a long way to forging harmony

on the Labour front.

6.6 As a step to reducing the incidence of the perennial strikes in the country, the Commission has plans to institute research into the causes of strikes and their effects on business/industry.

The Commission noted that although it was one of this year's plans programme, lack of funds did not make it possible; this project is very important as it will and the commission in identifying the causes of industrial agitations and draw up programme to address them.

The Commission will also research into the status of compliance with collective bargaining Agreements and the treatment of casual workers in the country.

The Commission intends to collaborate with international and local Training institutions for the training of the staff of the commission, develop pro-grammes aimed at staff capacity-building and sponsor staff to training programmes in their specific areas of work to improve upon their skills. 7.0 Observations/Recommendations

7.1 Delays in the Release/Non Release
TABLE 2:55 p.m.

Mr. Dan Abodakpi (NDC -- Keta) 2:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion on the floor and to urge this honourable House to do same.
Mr. Speaker, when we met with the Labour Commission, it was quite clear
that even though they are very early on the labour scene, their impact is already well reflected on the happenings on the domestic labour front. But the need to remove adversarial attitudes from the labour scene is a sine qua non for attracting even investment. It is an important
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:55 p.m.
Could we
consider the Ministry of Justice?
Mr. Kwame Osei-Prempeh 2:55 p.m.
Mr.
Speaker, with your permission I wish to move the motion on behalf of my Minister. My Minister is travelling outside on a national assignment and therefore he has been compelled to leave the House. [Interruption.] I am seeking permission from -- [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:55 p.m.
It is not
you who seeks the permission but the Leadership should do that for you. You do not have to ask for the permission yourself; let somebody do that for you.
Mr. Adjaho 2:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the proper
procedure is for permission to be sought first. You grant the permission before he moves to the Dispatch Box.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:55 p.m.
That is
correct.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Suame, would you take your
seat. The hon. Member for Suame always provokes controversy. Are you asking permission for him or not?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 3:05 p.m.
Mr.
Speaker, with respect to the Chair, I do not always provoke controversy. Mr. Speaker, we are talking about our rules and I am saying that an hon. Member could seek permission for himself.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:05 p.m.
Very well.
But it is not ‘for himself' over anything. In this case, he is seeking permission to speak for a Ministry; he is not coming to seek permission for himself.
Anyway, that is the position of the
Chair. Do you want to ask permission for him?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 3:05 p.m.
Mr.
Speaker, I am asking permission for the hon. Deputy Minister, with your indulgence and that of hon. Colleagues in the House, to move the motion on behalf of the hon. Minister for Justice and Attorney-General.
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Chairman of the Committee (Mr. Kojo Armah) 3:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion and to present your Committee's Report. I beg that the Hansard should capture the entire Report as read.
AMOUNT 3:05 p.m.

GRAND 3:05 p.m.

Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDC -- Tamale South) 3:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to associate myself with the motion for the approval of ¢140,215,000,000 for the services of the Ministry of Justice.
Mr. Speaker, we have, as a country
committed ourselves to an effective operation of the rule of law and that makes this Ministry a very important Ministry,especially in relation to the fact that the hon. Minister for Justice and Attorney-General by virtue of article 88 of
the Constitution is responsible for matters of prosecution.
Mr. Speaker, I just want to make some brief comments on the Registrar-General's Department and with your indulgence refer you to page 7 of your Committee's Report, in particular paragraph 7.2. Mr. Speaker, it is encouraging to hear that there are attempts by the Registrar-General's Department to decentralize its activities. I think that that is a worthy initiative that must be supported.
For many of us, it does not make sense that people from the Upper West, Upper East or from the Western and Central Regions, in the hinterlands and districts, when they require business registration forms, they can only do so by coming to Accra. I think that we can spare many of our people this obligation.
Mr. Speaker, my other comment has to do with the Serious Fraud Office. I am wondering whether an institution, even though it is a creation of law under the Ministry of Justice, whether or not this Parliament should not, in future, consider creating it as an independent entity that will not necessary answer to the Minister for Justice.
I think that their human resource issues would have to be dealt with. In the last few days, we heard reports about the exit of the Acting Chief Executive and Chief Executive and others. I think it is a very important institution in our fight against corruption as a particular economic crime and we have to give it the needed resources, both logistics and financial to be able to execute its mandate.
Mr. Speaker, my next comment has to do with the General Legal Council. I suppose, as I have read, agencies under the Ministry include the General Legal Council and for that matter the Ghana
School of Law. We are told that in the last year, some moneys allocated to the Ghana School of Law were not disbursed by the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning; and I think that that is worrying.
Whether there is a problem with the leadership of the institution or not, the Law School must function effectively and we must expand it in order to enter the number of people who would provide legal service.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, the Legal Aid Board. There are still many people who are standing trial without the assistance of any legal expertise, even though our Constitution guarantees legal aid.
Mr. Speaker, I hope the hon. Attorney- General and Minister for Justice, one of these days, would take a serious interest in the number of remand prisoners who are languishing in various cells across the country for offences that no substantial material evidence have been advanced against them; but for want of legal aid, many of them are still in custody. I think that we can decongest our courts if we are able to take a second look at our remand policy.
With this, Mr. Speaker, I support the motion.

Mr. Joseph Yieleh Chireh (NDC --
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:15 p.m.
Hon.
Member for Wa East, I thought you were on your feet --
Mr. Chireh 3:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I had wanted to draw your attention to an issue but I am told that whilst I was away they made the correction.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:15 p.m.
Very well.
Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho (NDC --
Avenor-Ave): Mr. Speaker, I want to re-emphasize a point made by the hon. Member for Tamale South with regard to the Serious Fraud Office. Mr. Speaker, the kind of image we are getting about the Serious Fraud Office is not the best for an organization that is supposed to help in fighting fraud and corruption.
Mr. Speaker, at a point we were told that one Mr. Sowah had been appointed the Executive Director. At another time, it was said that the Acting Executive Director, Mr. Cudjoe was still at post. Mr. Speaker, my own enquiries have revealed that there is a ding-dong battle between the Chairman of the Board of the SFO and the Acting Executive Director, with the Ministry of Justice as the referee in the matter.
We believe that it is not the best. I think that a lot of power centres have just been involved and are doing certain things, I have been informed, over and above the head of the Ministry of Justice which is the supervising Ministry. Mr. Speaker, I think that we would want him in his winding up to tell us exactly who is in charge of the day-to-day running of such an important anti-corruption agency, so that we are very clear in our minds whether it is Mr. Sowah or it is Mr. Cudjoe.
Mr. Speaker again, we have raised
this point several times as to retaining experienced attorneys at the Attorney- General's Department. I was working there when duty called me to come and become a Member of Parliament.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:15 p.m.


I think that we have to do everything possible to retain them in the Ministry. Mr. Speaker, the kind of experience that lawyers get at that Ministry, especially the training, the exposure and all those things, is enormous. For them to take such experience back to the private sector and then sell that experience back to the State is a great loss to the State.

I believe that if we do a little bit more for them, they will remain in the Attorney- General's Department and provide better services to this country.

Mr. Speaker, thank you very much and

I support the motion.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:15 p.m.
Hon.
Deputy Minister, do you want to say a few words in reaction?
Mr. Osei-Prempeh 3:15 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
I just want to thank my hon. Colleagues. I will say that I share some of the views that they have expressed. The attrition rate at the AG's Department is very high. Mr. Speaker, the remuneration that lawyers of twenty, thirty years experience, take home, is very miserable and therefore they come to get the experience and go away.
I believe that as a nation we have to look at it. My hon. Colleague, the hon. Minister has submitted proposals to Cabinet about the need to improve the conditions there.
Mr. Speaker, on SFO, every effort is
being made to streamline the activities of the place. Mr. Speaker, let me say that there are real impediments but we believe that they are surmountable. That is where I would like to end it.
On the General Legal Council, Mr.
Speaker, last year a huge allocation was made to them, on the insistence of your Committee, when I was the chairperson. The money was allocated to them but
Mr. Osei-Prempeh 3:15 p.m.


throughout the whole year, they did not source the funds. Therefore, it remained at the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning. It was somebody's fault that they did not source the money. It was an internal problem of the Council. We tried to resolve that problem and we believe that this year, it will not emerge again.

Mr. Speaker, on this note, and once

again, let me thank my hon.Colleagues for their assistance.

Question put and motion agreed to.

Resolved:

That this honourable House approves the sum of ¢140,215,- 000,000 for the services of the Ministry of Justice for the 2007 fiscal year.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 3:15 p.m.
Mr.
Speaker, if I may ask your permission and the indulgence of the House to accommodate the Deputy Minister for Health, to make the presentation on behalf of his Minister.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:15 p.m.
Very well.
ANNUAL ESTIMATES 3:15 p.m.

Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:15 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister, do you have a long way to go in terms of what you want to read or what?
Mr. Owusu-Agyei 3:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is not that much. Mr. Speaker, Government has a lso expanded the Nat ional Ambulance Service to all regions. This year, 91 ambulances were procured, staffed and distributed. Training of the emergency medical practitioners is going on throughout the country. Unfortunately, the Ministry cannot expand the ambulance service in 2007 due to inadequate financial allocation to the sector.
Mr. Speaker, I would just mention a few challenges and then I would conclude.
Mr. Speaker, in spite of the progress,
there are still major challenges facing the
Mr. Owusu-Agyei 3:15 p.m.


health sector. Ghana continues to have a high burden of communicable diseases such as malaria, diarrhoea, dysentery and respiratory track infections as well as pregnancy-related diseases. Mr. Speaker, access to health services continues to be limited particularly in deprived and peri-urban areas. Without improving the geographical access alongside efforts to improve financial access through the National Health Insurance Scheme, we run a risk of making the health insurance programme unsustainable.

Mr. Speaker, resources allocated to the health sector for investment are just not enough, and what we have been allocated for the year 2007 is just enough to cover loans and their related counterpart funds. If nothing changes or nothing is done or there is no additional resources allocated to the sector, the sector would have no funds for new projects and similarly, all ongoing projects would have to be re- prioritized.

The good news however is that the long-awaited rehabilitation of the Tamale Teaching Hospital would be started in 2007. Mr. Speaker, we have noticed that emergency - [Interruption.] Mr. Speaker, I am being asked to truncate whatever I am presenting and I hope to make it as brief as possible.

Mr. Speaker, in conclusion, the Ministry

would require ¢7.3 trillion to implement the above activities. Obviously, this amount is more than the ¢5.6 trillion allocated to the sector this year. Mr. Speaker, it is for this reason that I humbly request the House to consider and approve for the Ministry of Health its annual estimates of ¢3,878,467,000,000 for the 2007 fiscal year.

Mr. Speaker, I beg to move.
Chairman of the Committee (Dr. Francis Osafo-Mensah) 3:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion and in doing so, present the Report of the Committee. But before I do so, I would like to make an amendment in the Committee's Report and this is on page 10, paragraph 8.2. The figure there should be ¢13,380,000,000 instead of what is found in the Report which is ¢13,300 trillion.
Mr. Speaker, I beg with your indulgence to read only the Conclusion of the Report of the Committee. Hansard should capture the whole as having been read.
1.0 Introduction
In accordance with article 179 of the 1992 Constitution, the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, Mr. Kwadwo Baah-Wiredu presented the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government for 2007 Financial Year to the House on Thursday, 16th November,
2006.
Pursuant to Standing Orders 140 (4) and 178 of the House, the draft Annual Budget Estimates of the Ministry of Health was referred to the select Committee on Health for consideration and report.
A meeting was held to consider the draft Annual Budget Estimates with the hon. Minister for Health, hon. Deputy Ministers for Health, Directors of the Sector Ministry and the Schedule Officer of the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning (MOFEP). The Committee commends them for their assistance.
2.0 Reference Documents
In considering the draft Annual Estimates for the Sector Ministry, the underlisted documents were used as reference materials:
i. The 1992 Constitution of Ghana;
ii. The Budget Statement and Economic Po l icy o f the

Government of Ghana for 2007 Financial Year;

iii. The Medium Term Expenditure Framework (MTEF) for 2007- 2009 and the Annual Estimates for 2007 (Volume 29) of the Ministry of Health;

iv. The Annual Estimates of the Ministry of Health for 2006; and

v. The Standing Orders of Parliament of Ghana.

3.0 Mission Statement of the Ministry of Health

The Ministry of Health has the following as its Mission Statement:

i . The deve lopment and promotion of proactive policies for good health and longevity,

ii. The provision of universal access to basic heal th services.

4.0 Objectives

The Ministry operates by the objectives cited below in pursuance of its Mission Statement and policy within the Medium Term Expenditure Framework (MTEF):

i. To ensure that people live long, healthy and productive lives and reproduce without risks of injuries or death;

ii. To reduce the excess risk and burden of morbidity, mortality and disability, especially in the poor and marginalized groups; and

iii. To reduce inequalities in access to health, populations and nutrition services and health outcomes.

5 . 0 R e v i e w o f t h e M i n i s t r y 's Performance in 2006

5.1 Funds Allocated

An amount of four trillion, seven hundred and eighty-six billion, five hundred and forty-eight million cedis (¢4,786,548,000,000.00) was approved by the House under Heads 160-165 for the operational expenditure of the Ministry of Health for the 2006 fiscal year.

During the period, the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning made regular releases of Personal Emoluments (Item 1) to the Ministry of Health.

Under Administration (Item 2), a total of seventy-five billion cedis (¢75,000,- 000,000.00) was released out of the allocated sum of ninety billion cedis

(¢90,000,000,000.00).

Out of the two hundred and sixty-four billion, three hundred and twenty-one million cedis that was allocated to Service (Item 3), about fifty per cent (50%) has been released as at the time of reporting.

For Investment (Item 4), the total GOG component of fifty-three billion, five hundred and seventy-seven million cedis (¢53,577,000,000.00) has been released to the Ministry of Health.

Out of the appropriated Donor Fund of five hundred and forty-two billion, eight hundred and fifty-three million cedis (¢542,853,000,000.00), two hundred and forty-one billion, eight hundred and ninety million cedis (¢241,890,000,000.00) has been released as at the time of reporting.

An amount of one hundred and ninety billion cedis (¢190,000,000,000.00) from HIPC funds was released out of the allocated sum of two hundred billion cedis

(¢200,000,000,000.00).

5.2 Programme of Work for 2006

The main focus of the health sector in 2006 was on:

Promoting health and collaborating with other sectors to reduce risk factors associated with diseases;
Mr. Lee Ocran (NDC - Jomoro) 3:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I also rise to support the motion on the floor but in doing so, I would like to raise some few issues.
First, if you read the Report, page 9 (8.1) the last three sentences, it is stated that there would be no funds available “for the recruitment of new personnel … and the promotion of existing personnel on contract”. That is a very serious statement. You cannot recruit any new doctors, nurses and even those on contract cannot be promoted.
Meanwhile, on page 8 (6.3) -- “Capacity Development for Health Delivery” -- the Report is saying that the training of more middle-level health personnel, medical assistants, midwives would be embarked upon. I think this
is very contradictory. Because you do not have money to recruit more people but you have money to train them; after training them what are you going to do with them? Are you not going to promote them because they have had new training? So I think the hon. Deputy Minister would have to look at that side of the Report.
Mr. Speaker, there is a reflection that
Tamale General Hospital is going to be rehabilitated and that diseases like measles and poliomyelitis are almost getting extinct; but at the same time, old diseases like yaws are reappearing. I think the hon. Deputy Minister would have to take that on board because yaws in the 21st Century is a very serious matter.
Dr. Osafo-Mensah 3:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, on
a point of order. Mr. Speaker, since we are going to discuss the National Health Insurance, I wonder whether this is an appropriate platform for it.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:15 p.m.
Well, he
chooses to mention it right now. Allow him; the floor is still his.
Mr. Ocran 3:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, ¢800 billion
is still outstanding and the whole of this year, not a cedi of the National Health Insurance Levy has been paid to the Ministry of Health; and that is why the Ministry is finding it difficult to implement exemptions, and so on.

So I will call on the hon. Minister to liaise with the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning so that he stops holding the money. The money is not for the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning to hold. In fact, under the law, 30 days after the deduction, the money should reach the National Health Insurance so that these things can be done; but the Minister for Health is holding the money.

In the case of Social Security and National Insurance Trust (SSNIT), deduction should go straight to the National Health Insurance; it is not supposed to pass through the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning. There is no such circuitous route. The law does not say so. So the hon. Minister should try to put pressure on his Colleague to release the money so that our people can have access to good health.

Since we are going to discuss the NHIS case tomorrow, maybe I will keep this one. But our children under five are not getting exemptions at the hospital just because under the new NHIS law, their parents should be registered. Previously, under the “Cash and Carry” they could just walk in and get free access to medical care. Mr. Speaker, with these few comments and observations, I support the motion.

Maj. (Dr.) (Alhaji) M. Ahmed (retd): (NDC -- Ayawaso East): Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion which is being discussed now. And in doing so I would like to refer to page 164 of the Budget Statement; and with your indulgence, I will read paragraph 736:

“The main focus of the health sector programmes in 2006 was to:

Promote health and collaborate with other sectors to reduce risk factors associated with diseases.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:35 p.m.
The hon. Member, who has left his telephone on the table and is ringing, should please do us the favour of putting it off.
Maj. (Dr.) (Alhaji) M. Ahmed (retd): Mr. Speaker, there is also no mention that the Ministry, even though it has been stated here that there will be collaboration with other sectors to reduce risk factors associated with diseases, such colla- boration has been done.
At least, there has not been any collaboration with the Ministry of Education, Science and Sports or Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment and there has not been any collaboration
with the Department of Town and Country Planning, such that recreational spaces would be made available within our cities so that people can go on daily or weekly exercises or regular physical exercises which is a form of keeping very healthy.
Mr. Speaker, also, if you come to the issue of HIV/AIDS, there is nothing in the Statement which indicates that Ghana is living up to her international commitments. The UN Security Council commitment, the World Summit, the African Common Position, the Maseru Declaration, all these things are not mentioned; and I believe that we have to do our national programme on HIV/ AIDS with regard to these international commitments so that we would be in tandem with what is happening on the global front.
With these few remarks, Mr. Speaker, I support the motion and I urge all hon. Colleagues to support this important Ministry.
Mr. M. D. Baah (PNC -- Sissala East) 3:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion on the floor and to make a few comments about the Report that we are looking at.
Mr. Speaker, I am particularly happy and relieved at this point in time about the resolution of the personal emoluments of health workers.
Mr. Speaker, you remember that a few years back, almost every now and then there was a strike by health workers. The resolution of the emoluments of health workers and the abolition of the ADHA which had always been the reason for most of the strikes that we have had on our hand, would allow the Health Sector to focus on
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Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:35 p.m.
Hon. Dr. Ahmed, is there any point of order from you?
Maj. (Dr.) (Alhaji) Ahmed (Retd.): On a point of order. Since we started taking down data on HIV/AIDS, Ghana has never recorded a rate higher than four per cent. The highest has been 3.6 per cent and I would like my hon. Colleague to take note.
Mr. M. D. Baah 3:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to thank him for the correction, but I know that the AIDS Commission and the Ministry of Health have done tremen- dously well by controlling and bringing down the incidence of HIV/AIDS in this country.
Mr. Speaker, my concern is that there are still a large number of HIV/AIDS patients who need anti-retroviral drugs. But there is a limit of only about 6,000 patients who are receiving anti-retroviral drugs (ARD). And we also know that there are only 20 sites across the entire
to below four thousand and I think this is the situation and I am saying that the guinea-worm eradication programme is making progress.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:35 p.m.
Hon. Chireh, are you all right with that?
Mr. Chireh 3:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, my point was that he said it was the first time. I am saying that if he had mentioned the figure one hundred and eighty thousand -- [Interruption.]
Mr. M. D. Baah 3:35 p.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we will simply leave it at that. What I am saying is that the guinea- worm eradication programme is making some positive achievements because the incidence has come down below four thousand now. [Interruptions.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:35 p.m.
Hon. Members, what is happening? If there is any need for you to meet, why do you not do it outside? Yes, hon. Member continue.
Mr. M. D. Baah 3:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I also want to comment on the National Health Insurance. Mr. Speaker, so far I think the National Health Insurance is on course and what is being done is good but the problem is about the registration and issuance of identity cards. Mr. Speaker, can you believe that as a Member of Parliament I registered for the National Health Insurance in November 2005 and as of now, I have not yet received my identity card?
So I think the National Health Insurance Council needs to do something to ensure that the public receive their I.D. cards after registration, within the six months' waiting period; and if that is done and the number of cases are increased, the scheme will be able to survive.
Mr. Speaker, finally, I want to congratulate the Ministry of Health for finally finding the resources for the rehabilitation of the Tamale Teaching Hospital. We all know that the Tamale Teaching Hospital has been on the drawing board for decades; the hospital has really deteriorated and needs to be refurbished.
With these few words, I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity.
Alhaj i Muntaka Mohammed Mubarak (NDC -- Asawase): Mr. Speaker, I thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to contribute to the motion before the House. Mr. Speaker, I want to talk about the allocation to the Ministry.
Mr. Speaker, if you look at last year, the Ministry was allocated ¢4.7 trillion. Out of this ¢4.7 trillion, when you take off the personal emoluments, you have only 47.4 per cent of what was voted or approved going into the Ministry. Mr. Speaker will agree with all of us that we can suspend every activity but we can never suspend illness or ill-health. It is very important that the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning takes this point very seriously. Moneys were approved; at least, we were able to get the allocation to the sector Ministries to enable them function effectively.
I am saying this notwithstanding the fact that sometime this year we had to approve additional estimates, clearly indicating to us that we had exceeded some of the money that we had budgeted for and so to have the Ministry not having all the money allocated to it is a very unfortunate situation.
As we sit here today, the whole central hospital in Tamale has no mortuary and they have to transfer corpses from Tamale to mortuaries in Yendi and other hospitals.
country which are providing these ARVs and I want to urge the Ministry of Health to expand the number of its sites to possibly cover every district hospital in Ghana, so that we can bring ARVs closer to the doorsteps of the patients who need them.
Mr. J. Y. Chireh 3:35 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, unfortunately, I was also at the meeting and that was not what was said. Indeed, what was acknowledged was that it had been very high and was brought down to about 6,000 from 1989 to 2000. It was at the 6,000 level that it started misbehaving. In fact, one needs to know the figure from where it was brought down. It was 189,000 and it was brought down to 6,000. [Interruption.]
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:35 p.m.
So what is your point, hon. Chireh?
Mr. Chireh 3:35 p.m.
So my point of order is that he is misleading the House by saying that this is the first time. What is the first time?
Mr. M. D. Baah 3:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, what we were told was that when the programme started, the incidence of guinea-worm was about one hundred and eighty thousand cases. It was brought down to about six thousand around 2001 and since then the figure has dwindled to around six thousand. Now it has come
Mr. Godfred Otchere 3:45 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, he did mention mortuary. But I think they do not need a mortuary because when the fellow dies today he is buried the next day.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:45 p.m.
You are out of order. [Laughter.]
Alhaji Mubarak 3:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, you have ruled him out so we would not want to comment on what the Vice-Chairman said. Mr. Speaker, I am saying this because if you look at the African Common Position on HIV-- [Interruption.]
Alhaji B. Amadu Sorogho 3:45 p.m.
On a point of order. I do not know where my hon. Friend is getting his figures from. He is talking of ¢3.8 trillion when the Report is talking of ¢5.6 trillion.
Alhaji Mubarak 3:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, if my hon. Colleague had taken pains to look at the Order Paper he would have appreciated what I was talking about. The ¢5.6 trillion that we see includes the National Health
Alhaji Sorogho 3:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, a certain statement has been made --
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:45 p.m.
Are you raising a point of order?
Alhaji Sorogho 3:45 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:45 p.m.
Then take your seat. I have already ruled on the matter.
Alhaji Sorogho 3:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is very serious.
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:45 p.m.
Hon. Member, take your seat.
Alhaji Mubarak 3:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, as I was saying, if you look at our commitment as a country -- The AU Member States are expected to ensure that their public health budgets are exempted from spending ceilings.
This clearly shows that as a country we have committed ourselves to AU Treaties that indicated that we were going to continue spending higher amounts to ensure that our people are healthy and with this situation where we are cutting down the budget of the Ministry of Health from last year's figure of ¢4.7 trillion to ¢3.8 trillion, I believe that it is something that we have to look at critically.
I hope that the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning in the likely event that they have some shortfall in the 2007 Budget, they will look at the health sector and make appropriate allocations to the sector.
Mr. Speaker, another very important thing that has been affecting the Ministry is the donor component. Mr. Speaker, you would see that the donor component, when the countries commit themselves that they are going to support us on one project or the other, we are mandated to generate our counterpart funding. And you create this counterpart funds only to realize that towards the tail-end of the year the commitment of donors are not flowing and this puts in a situation that is very, very uncomfortable.
You badly need these resources to do other activities but because you are committed to whatever, the donors have assured you they are going to donate towards a specific project, you leave this money idling only to not have the money in the end.

Mr. Speaker, if you look at the 2006 Budget, for the donor component we had less than 50 per cent and I think I would urge the hon. Minister for Health to try as much as possible to get our commitment straight, such that once it is committed we are sure it is coming. So that we do not have this kind of overhang around the Ministry.

Mr. Speaker, before I take my seat, there is one very important aspect of the Ministry -- and I believe it is also in almost all the other Ministries -- that especially this House has to pay serious attention to. It has to do with internally generated funds (IGF). Mr. Speaker, I believe your Committees on almost all the Ministries must begin critically looking at the way IGFs are being used.

Mr. Speaker, we recently heard about some of the incidents that were happening

at the Korle-Bu Teaching Hospital where there is a Medical Block, yet emphasis was being laid on the Administrative Block. At the committee level we confronted the hon. Minister on why this happened.

Mr. Speaker, you would see clearly that even though Parliament allows these agencies to raise money internally they try to use the money at their own discretion and I believe this is not proper. At least, the sector Ministers must have a look at where they want to put there moneys and give them approval before they go ahead to do it. Currently, as we are talking, we have under my Committee the Food and Drugs Board, Korle-Bu Teaching Hospital, Komfo Anokye and so many other agencies. Mr. Speaker, with all due respect, when we were even looking at the Ministry's Budget they did not bother to even come because they felt that all we were doing was their personal emoluments; the chunk of the other things were in the IGF, and they control that. Therefore, they did not bother to even appear at the budget hearing.

Mr. Speaker, I think this is a very unfortunate situation and we, as hon. Members, must begin asking for accountability from these sub-sectors under our Ministries. For example, we should begin asking for annual reports and audited accounts of these subvented organizations under our various Ministries so that we would be able to fulfill the oversight responsibility given us by the 1992 Constitution.

Mr. Speaker, you talked of the National Health Insurance and as we all agreed, tomorrow we will be looking at the details of the National Health Insurance. But I want to draw hon. Members attention to one thing. Before the introduction of the
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  • Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:55 p.m.
    Let me
    allow hon. Dauda one minute and you as well.
    Alhaji Collins Dauda (NDC --
    Asutifi South): Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. I will use one minute. Mr. Speaker, I just want to raise the issue of traditional medicine. I have read the Report and I did not find any paragraph that deals with this important sector.
    Mr. Speaker, we are aware that traditional medicine has become a very important component in the health sector and I thought that some attention would be given to this sector. Mr. Speaker, we know that most of the rural communities depend mostly on herbal medicine.
    I think that the Ministry of Health
    should take steps to promote this sector, with a view to giving it some scientific colour such that we would all be helped in this direction, particularly those of us from the rural areas. These are the concerns that I want to raise about this motion.
    Mr. Speaker, with this short comment, in one minute, I support this motion. I have complied.
    Mr. E. T. Mensah (NDC 3:55 p.m.
    None

    Prampram): Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion but before I make my comment, I would urge the hon. Chairman of the Committee to withdraw a statement that he made which has been captured in the Hansard, so that it is expunged.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:55 p.m.
    Hon. E. T. Mensah, I ruled the hon. Member out of order so do not let us go and bring it back. The Chair had ruled the hon. Member out of order.
    Mr. E. T. Mensah 3:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker,
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 3:55 p.m.
    I think
    you are rather making it look as if it was a serious statement, when it was not.
    Mr. E. T. Mensah 3:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I take
    the cue from you. Mr. Speaker, I have got a couple of issues that I want to put on the table for consideration by the Ministry of Health. Mr. Speaker, quite often we find in the news media, people appealing for help to support other people with hole-in heart, cardiac problems or leukemia, and what have you. By the time the moneys are realized, most of the time, the patient would be dead. Not too long ago we lost a university student.
    Mr. Speaker, it does not augur well for us as a people and I want to suggest or recommend to the Ministry that they set up a special fund for this purpose. They
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:05 p.m.
    Hon.
    Members, there is one more Ministry, the Ministry of Communications.
    Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 4:05 p.m.
    That is so, Mr. Speaker.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:05 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, it is a case of the spirit is willing -- [Interruption.]
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:05 p.m.
    We have quite a number so I would entreat you to let us take it. That would reduce the number of motions to be considered tomorrow; it is in our best interest so I would entreat you to let us look at it.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:05 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I am only sounding what my side of the House is telling me. We do not want a situation whereby by the time we finish, the whole place is empty -- [Interruption.]
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:05 p.m.
    Hon. Deputy Minority Leader, as I said, I agree and I can see that you have had such an endurance, which is extremely commen- dable. Now it is tomorrow and the next day -- We have only two more days and if we take this motion then the rest, we would consider them tomorrow. We have already -- [Interruption.]
    Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 4:05 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I want to seek permission from you for the hon. Deputy Minister for Communications who has been with us since morning -- If the House could indulge only him, after him then we would curtail business. Thank you. [Interruption.]
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    Mr. E. T. Mensah 4:05 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, communication -- [Interruption.] Please, take your seat! I have been called, why should you be standing? I have been called, I have the floor.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:05 p.m.
    Hon. E. T. Mensah, you can catch my eye but you do not take over the proceedings here. I gave you the floor; what do you want to say?
    Mr. E. T. Mensah 4:05 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, you gave me the floor but then he moved forward and I said he should take his seat; he cannot be standing whilst I have the floor.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:05 p.m.
    You are right, hon. E. T. Mensah, but go ahead.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:05 p.m.
    Hon. Member, I have asked you to indulge the Chair by allowing this to come, I have allowed that. [Interruption.] I have allowed him to go ahead.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:05 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, we have decided to ignore the rules and do business. So when it gets to a stage where we think that now we have done enough, Mr. Speaker, I beg you -- and we are pleading that you should understand our plight -- [Interruption] -- Are you also tired? The hon. Chief Whip says that he is also tired.
    Mr. Speaker, you have been in this Chair for a long time and there are some faces that have been here from morning up till now, including the hon. Chief Whip of the Majority side. So if the people are saying that they are tired, they should understand. Mr. Speaker, we are pleading; we would take it the first thing tomorrow, no problem, and we would pass it for him.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:05 p.m.
    Hon. Deputy Minority Leader, I appreciate what
    has been happening and you would also appreciate that I have been in this Chair since 10.00 o'clock in the morning and I am equally eager to leave this place but as usual this has been the pattern. We have a few more motions and maybe tomorrow we will take very good care to look at all the problems involved in it. I pleaded with you. The Chair has asked you that please, let us go on with this one.
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    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:05 p.m.
    Hon. Akua Dansua, please take your seat, I am not giving you the chance; take your seat.
    Ms. Dansua 4:05 p.m.
    I just want to find out if there would be any Additional Duty Hours Allowance (ADHA) for us, for Sitting late? [Laughter.]
    ANNUAL ESTIMATES 4:05 p.m.

    Chairman of the Committee (Mr. Opare-Ansah) 4:05 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion and in doing so I wish to present the Report of your Select Committee on Communications to which the Ministry's budget estimates was referred.
    1.0 Introduction
    1.1 The draft Budget Estimates of the Ministry of Communications for 2007 was referred to the Select Committee on Communications on 16th November 2006 for consideration and report in
    accordance with Standing Orders 140 (4) and 181. This followed the presentation of the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government to the House by the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning (MoFEP), hon. Kwadwo Baah- Wiredu (MP) in accordance with article 179 of the Constitution and Order 140 (1) of the Standing Orders of the House.
    1.2 The Committee met on 8 th December, 2006 with the Minister for Communications, hon. Prof. Aaron M. Oquaye (MP) accompanied by officials of the Ministry and its Agencies as well as an official of the MoFEP. The Committee is grateful to the hon. Minister and his team for their very warm cooperation.
    2.0 Reference Documents
    i. The 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Ghana.
    ii. The Standing Orders of the House.
    iii. The Budget Statement and Economic Po l icy o f the Government of Ghana for the 2007 Financial Year.
    iv. Report of the Select Committee on Communications on the Annual Est imates of the Ministry of Communications and Technology for 2006.
    3.0 Mission Statement and Objectives of the Ministry
    The Ministry of Communications (MOC) exists to facilitate the development of a reliable and cost-effective world- class communications infrastructure and services, driven by appropriate techno-logical innovations to enhance the promotion of economic competitiveness in a knowledge-based environment.
    In pursuance of this mission statement,
    MOC has the following objectives:
    i. To promote the development of nationwide communi- cations and technological
    infrastructural backbone and services.
    ii. To support the creation of a broad based communication and technological environ- ment that maintains a balance between stake-holders.
    iii. To facilitate the application of computer systems to improve the quality and efficiency of Public Services.
    iv. To strengthen the institu- tional and human resources capacities for quality service delivery.
    v. To review and develop policies that will enhance well-functioning and self- financed regulatory bodies in a competitive Information C o m m u n i c a t i o n s Technology (ICT) environ- ment.
    vi. To facilitate the provision of quality meteorological data and forecast in support of weather sensitive sectors of the economy.
    4.0 Agencies Under MOC
    The MOC has the following agencies for the implementation of its programmes and policies:
    National Communications Authority
    (NCA)
    Ghana Telecom (GT)
    Ghana Post Company Ltd.
    Ghana Meteorological Agency
    (GMA)
    Ghana-India Kofi Annan Centre of Excellence in ICT (KACE)
    Ghana Information and Commu- nication Technology Directorate
    Postal and Courier Services

    Regulatory Commission (PCSRC)

    Ghana Investment Fund for Telecommunications (GIFTEL)

    These agencies are tasked to handle specific functional areas in line with the Ministry's mission and objectives. However, the administrat ive and development expenses of the NCA, GT and Ghana Post are not charged on the Consolidated Fund because they are self-financing. The Central Systems Development Unit (CSDU) under the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning is expected to be transferred to the MoC during the 2007 fiscal year.

    5.0 Performance in 2006

    The Ministry was allocated a sum of ¢67,762,000,000 from GOG, IGF and HIPC Resources for its operations in 2006. Of this amount ¢33.3 billion represented the GOG component. The achievements of the Ministry in 2006 were well captured in the Budget Statement presented to the House. Suffice it, however, to recap a few in this report:

    A marked growth in telephone subscriptions in both fixed and mobile lines. From December 2001 to September 2006, there has been a total increase in both fixed and mobile subscriptions from 464,861 to 4,946,357 representing a cumulative percentage rise of 2,268 per cent.

    The Ministry commenced separate processes of privatisation of both Ghana Telecom and Westel to enable the two national operators to source adequate capital for more competitive operation. These processes are expected to be completed by June 2007.

    A new Radiosonde Equipment for the Ghana Meteorological Agency was commissioned at Tamale Airport in March 2006. This has facilitated prompt weather forecast

    to serve the aviation industry. A Climate Database Management System was upgraded in March to enhance processing and archiving of historical meteo data.

    The Ghana Telecom University College was formally inaugurated as a tertiary institution for ICT and telecom focused learning. The College admitted 238 students into various degree and certificate programmes for the 2006/7 academic year and trained 120 technicians in short-term courses.

    The Kof i Annan Cent re o f Excellence in ICT trained about 4,000 persons to bridge the ICT gap between academia, government and industry.

    Under the Community Information Centre (CIC) programme, the following were accomplished:

    72 centres completed and equipped

    49 CIC coordinators were trained in technical and managerial skills

    Coordination arrangement set up between the MoC, Ministry of Information and National Orientation and the Ministry of Local Government, Rural Development and Environment to facilitate the harmonisation of technical and operational programmes.

    One underserved area was selected in each region under the GIFTEL arrangement for extension of telecom access. These are Tokope (G/Accra) , Twifo Mampong (Central), Donkorkrom (Eastern), Dadieso (Western), Odumase (Ashanti), Damanko (Volta), Daboya (Northern), Gwollu (U/ West), Fumbisi (U/East) and Kwame Danso (B/A).

    6.0 Expected Outputs in 2007

    In the coming year, the Ministry will commence the implementation of an e-Ghana project aimed at supporting concrete initiatives to implement the ICT- led socio-economic development strategy. To achieve these objectives the Ministry plans to pursue the following:

    Develop the relevant policies, legis la t ion, regulat ions and procedures for the Telecom and ICT Sector.

    Liaise with the Ministry of Information to discuss future legislation to cover convergence of t e lecommunica t ions and broadcasting under the e-Ghana Project. An integrated and shared national portal would also be developed in conjunction with the Ministry of Information to help departments reduce cost and improve security of databases.

    Liaise with the Office of the Head of the Civil Service to develop a scheme of service for the ICT Class within the Civil Service so quality staff could be attracted and retained to support the deployment of Government's e-applications.

    Continue to facilitate the practical creation of wealth through ICT by promoting Business Process Outsourcing and ICT Incubation.

    Monitor the expansion of telephone facilities to the Rural Area to support the extension of broadband connectivity to towns with senior secondary schools and/or training colleges to facilitate extension of computer literacy facilities in the schools.

    Moni to r the comple t ion o f construct ion works and the extension of connectivity to model Community Information Centres (CICs) and commence work on additional CICs under the HIPC programme.

    Monitor policy development process of the Ghana Investment

    Fund for Telecommunications (GIFTEL) to generate funds to support the development of telecom infrastructure in the underserved areas of the country.

    Pursue the development of the g o v e r n m e n t I C T N e t w o r k Infrastructure Policy. Facilitate the provision of qualitative ICT human resource development for the sector.

    Promote messaging and colla- boration between MDAs.

    Pursue the development of a national IT infrastructure backbone via fibre- optic extension nation-wide.

    Promote the development of the Technology Park concept.

    Ensure the attainment of 30 per cent teledensity penetration.

    7.0 Budget Estimates for 2007

    For its operations in 2007, the Ministry of Communications has been allocated an amount of two hundred and seven billion, six hundred and eighty-two million cedis (¢207,682,000,000). This is made up of the following components:

    a. GOG -- ¢

    60,283,000,000

    b. IGF -- ¢

    856,000,000

    c Donor - - ¢

    126,543,000,000

    d. HIPC - - ¢

    20,000,000,000

    Total - -

    ¢207,682,000,000

    The table attached shows the proposed allocations to the various MDAs.

    8.0 Observations

    8.1 Headquarters
    Chairman of the Committee (Mr. Opare-Ansah) 4:15 p.m.
    The Headquarters of the Ministry has a total allocation of ¢182,892,000,000 as compared to last year's allocation of ¢32,976,361,000. As the table shows, the allocation includes a donor component of ¢126,543,000,000 which is part of the disbursement the two credit facilities approved by this honourable House in July this year for specified ICT services and infrastructural projects across the country.
    The Committee observed that the allocation for P.E. had risen by 169.8 per cent over that of 2006 as a result of government's salary realignment policy. This will serve to improve the quality of the Ministry's human resource and thereby increase productivity by motivating staff.
    8.1.1 Internally Generated Funds
    The Committee was told that the Min i s t ry 's p ro jec ted r ece ip t o f ¢19,450,000,000 in 2006 was over- opt imist ic . This is because the commercialisation of the GMA, which was projected to yield about ¢9,000,000,000, was still at a teething stage and hence could not achieve the target. Upon discussions with the MOFEP therefore, a projected receipt of ¢3,356,000,000 is expected from GMA and KACE in 2007. Out of this amount, MoC is expected to retain ¢856,000,000 to be utilised as follows:
    Administration -- 250,000,000
    Service -- 350,000,000
    Investment -- 256,000,000
    8.1.2 HIPC Funds
    The Committee noted that allocation from HIPC Funds to the Ministry has been increased to ¢20,000,000,000 from ¢15,000,000,000 in 2006. Again, the bulk of the allocation would be applied to the CIC projects to mainstream ICT knowledge and application in the country particularly in under-served communities.
    8 . 1 . 3 Tr a n s f e r o f C e n t r a l Systems Development Unit (CSDU)
    The Committee was informed that the transfer of the Central Systems Development Unit (CSDU) under the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning (MOFEP) will be effected in 2007. The transfer would strengthen the operations of GICTeD. The Committee noted that the budget for CSDU in the sum of ¢5,050,000,000 has been captured under MOFEP for approval hence this is not included in the budget of MoC.
    2.2 Ghana-India Kofi Annan Centre of Excellence in ICT
    The Committee noted that the Ghana- India Kofi Annan Centre has been provided with approximately ¢10,033,-000,000 for its operations in 2006. The Centre is intended to become self financing in the long run and therefore it is authorised to charge appropriate fees for its services. According to the Budget Statement for 2007 (Appendix 9, pg. 329), the Centre is projected to collect an amount of ¢2,500,000,000 in 2007 and this is expected to be lodged in the Consolidated Fund.
    The Committee was told that the Centre was beginning to make impact on ICT capacity in the country. In view of high patronage of its programmes therefore, there is the need to expand training facilities at the Centre as well rehabilitate a structure acquired to house faculty members.
    8.3 Ghana Meteorological Agency
    The Ghana Meteorological Agency is a specialised scientific agency, whose objective is to ensure the provision of
    reliable meteorological information to support socio-economic activities. The Committee noted that for its operations in 2007, GMA has been allocated an amount of twenty-four billion, five hundred and thirty-four million, cedis (¢24,534,000,000). This includes an allocation of four hundred and eighty million cedis (¢480,000,000) which they are expected to retain from their IGF.
    The Committee noted that as part
    of its commercialisation, a new salary structure based on job assessment has been proposed and forwarded to the appropriate authorities for consideration and possible implementation in 2007. The Committee was told that implementation of various approved strategies under the commercialisation programme will commence in 2007. A key part of this programme is revenue generation from the aviation industry.
    8 . 4 P o s t a l a n d C o u r i e r Services Regulatory Commission
    (PCSRC)
    For its operations in 2007, PCSRC has been allocated an amount of ¢1,811,000,000. Quite a huge shortfall of ¢1,653,610,850 between the request by the Commission and the allocation was noted by the Committee. This would pose major challenges in the implementation of the Commission's activities under Adminis- tration and Investment.
    9.0 Conclusion
    In today's globalised world, an integrated ICT infrastructure is central to Ghana's poverty reduction and investment drive.
    The Commit tee has care fu l ly considered the draft Annual Estimates and recommends that this honourable House approves the sum of two hundred and seven billion, six hundred and eighty- two million cedis (¢207,682,000,000) for the services of the Ministry of Commu- nications for the 2007 financial year.

    Question proposed.
    Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDC -- Tamale South) 4:15 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity to contribute to the motion for the approval of ¢207,682,000,000 for the services of the Ministry of Communications for the 2007 financial year. And in doing so, Mr. Speaker, I would like to state that this is a very important Ministry, especially recognizing the contribution of Information Communi- cation Technology (ICT) to modern development trends.
    Indeed, it is significant that we mainstream ICT. I think that even from Ministry to Ministry they should be able to share information. But Mr. Speaker, I would like to raise one fundamental problem, beginning with the National Communication's Authority and the Ministry of Communication to consider taking urgent steps to ensure that Ghanaians get value-for-money, espe- cially when it comes to access to mobile telephony.
    Indeed, Mr. Speaker, most Members of Parliament have been accused wrongly by their constituents of unsuccessful attempts to reach them on phone -- the constituents would conclude that the MP or the Minister has turned off his phone when, in fact, it has to do with the poor quality of service that is being provided by the service provider. And it has to do with
    Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDC -- Tamale South) 4:25 p.m.
    those entities? That, I believe, will need to be clarified.
    Mr. Speaker, on Ghana Telecom, I have an honest belief that the Telenor Management Partners -- or call it Telecom Management Partners, as they want us to call it today -- My view is that in this country we operate under the laws of Ghana and not under the laws of Norway. Therefore, I suspect -- that is why I am calling for an investigation into the transition from -- Telenor Management Partners (TMP) to Telecom Management Partners -- that it was a fraud.
    Because, I am aware that Telenor Management Partners had no interest in Asia and Africa and for that matter could not be in Ghana. And the records of Ghana Telecom (GT) point to the fact that there has been some questionable transition between TMP maintaining TMP as a title -- it is no longer Telenor Management Partners but Telecom Management Partners.
    Mr. Speaker, they have left Ghana Telecom worse than they met it. I believe what we needed was a strategic investor and not a management contract. We have absolute faith in the competence of Ghanaians -- we believe that Ghanaians can do it better if they are given the opportunity to man Ghana Telecom.
    Mr. Speaker, they have no cause even to operate at a loss because they determine their tariff regime and if they decide that they want to charge ¢2,500 per minute, per call, they will know what their cost of production is and at all times they can break even and make profit.
    Mr. Speaker, I am aware that Ghana Telecom contracted some short-term loan facility from China and it is due for
    payment. Without fear of contradiction I can say that today Ghana Telecom is facing liquidity crisis and is heavily indebted. When the Minister appeared before this honourable House he was unable to provide answers as to how many expatriates were working, even though by our intelligence we were aware that they exceeded 30. Gladly, we are hearing some reports in the media that the management contract has been terminated. There has been debate over the number of fixed lines that they promised.
    Mr. Speaker, the Memorandum of Understanding that was signed in 2002 was specific that they were to roll on at least 400,000 fixed lines. Today, we still have about 365,000 fixed lines. It does not mean that they came to meet a zero regime in terms of fixed lines; there were already some fixed lines in existence, about 200,000 or more.
    Therefore, they failed in their contractual obligation. Government was running between looking for a strategic investor and ending up with management contracts, paying huge sums of money whether in Norwegian dollars or American dollars, for their purpose. And I renew my call that we will need a forensic audit into the activities of Ghana Telecom in order to inform which investor will come in.
    Mr. Speaker, if you look at the transition even before Telecom Malaysia left, they were doing better. They recently brought in these telephone booths -- many of them have collapsed, yet huge sums of money were invested in them.

    I have always been against even the nationalization of Ghana Telecom and WESTEL, especially for a Government that professes to believing in private sector participation. I think that we must

    open it up and allow for private sector participation in the provision of telephony.

    Mr. Speaker, people are complaining

    today about how much money Areeba sends abroad or how much they earn, yet our own national service provider, Ghana Telecom can do better. Our people, I understand, are looking for the opportunity to access mobile telephony. I think that something ought to be done about that.

    Mr. Speaker, my final comment will

    be on GIFTEL. We are aware that a fund was established in order to bridge the gap between access to telephony involving rural and urban areas in the country. Mr. Speaker, so far, over ¢39 billion has been generated for the fund and the hon. Minister will have to explain to this House either today or some other day, why Ghana Telecom has since the establishment of GIFTEL not contributed a farthing to that fund; and even today, GIFTEL is still in huge arrears involving many of the service providers. Mr. Speaker, we need to do something about that.

    Many of our rural communities still do not have access to telephone facilities. Mr. Speaker, why would one have ¢39 billion sitting -- I do not have my statistics right but that will convert into several million dollars. Mr. Speaker, we need to improve access to rural telephony. We also need an assurance from the hon. Minister that the community information centres would be dealt with.

    Mr. Speaker, E-crime, internet fraud, is now on the increase and we need to do something about E-legislation, and I hope that the Ministry will take particular interest in it. It is encouraging to hear that some attempts have been made.

    Mr. Speaker, if we refer to page 5 of your Committee's Report, we are

    particularly interested in under-served areas when it comes to the provision of telephone facilities. There are some listed communities here -- Twifo, Mampong, Donkorkrom, Dadieso, Damanko, and then Daboya area in the Northern Region. Mr. Speaker, I believe the Ministry can do more. With ¢39 billion sitting at GIFTEL, they can assure three communities in Ghana. They can choose the most deprived in terms of access to rural telephony and roll them on under the facility of GIFTEL.

    Mr. Speaker, with these few comments, I support the motion and hope that the hon. Minister will allow for private sector participation in the activities of WESTEL and Ghana Telecom in particular and authorize a forensic audit into their investigation. We need to know how much even our spectrum was sold for. The hon. Minister appeared before this House and gave a figure of $56 million when we said he should compartmentalize it in terms of how much came from Areeba, how much Kasapa paid for its spectrum that was not disclosed.

    But Mr. Speaker, we need to know because in Nigeria, they have raised over $500 million through the sale of mobile spectrum to them. We can do same for Ghana and generate more resources for our country.

    Mr. Speaker, I support the motion.
    Mr. Kenneth Dzirasah (NDC -- South Tongu) 4:25 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I just wish to raise two points to buttress the call by our Ranking Member on the need for Ghana Telecom to be investigated.
    Ghana Telecom stands out as a very fat cow that anybody milks. I recall that several years back, when things were not very well, Ghana Telecom used to serve or provide money for budgetary support.
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    Minister for Private Sector Reforms (Dr. Paa Kwesi Nduom) 4:25 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I wish to speak on this motion but I am very much concerned about some of what
    Minister for Private Sector Reforms (Dr. Paa Kwesi Nduom) 4:25 p.m.


    is being said about Ghana Telecom. Mr. Speaker, I know an hon. Member just now has talked about liquidity crisis at Ghana Telecom. He has also talked about forensic audit at Ghana Telecom. He has talked about fraud at Ghana Telecom and also talked about, maybe, the Malaysians doing better than the Norwegians. We have thrown out all manner of things like these.

    But Mr. Speaker, everybody recognizes that Ghana Telecom is an important matter for all of us and yet what we have demonstrated over the years has been a certain inferiority complex in this country about Ghanaian professionals and Ghanaian management. That is what has gotten us to where we are and so if we are going to be selective and talk about what is happening now without reference to what we have been doing over the years, we would not get to the bottom properly.
    Alhaji Sumani Abukari 4:25 p.m.
    On a point of
    order. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister for Public Sector Reforms is disa-ppointingly misleading this House. Mr. Speaker, this is an hon. Minister who is supposed to carry us forward. What he has suggested is a forensic audit into the activities as of today. Now this hon. Minister is up and
    is talking of what happened in the 1990s -- [Interruption.] We want to go forward not to go backwards. That is why he is sitting where he is sitting.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:25 p.m.
    Hon. Member for Tamale North, you are out of order.
    Mr. Hackman Owusu-Agyemang 4:25 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, the distinguished hon. Member from Tamale North said that that is why he is sitting where he is sitting. That is unparliamentary and I think that it is demeaning of this House and my hon. Friend the former Ambassador, knows what decorum is. I would therefore ask him to withdraw that statement. That statement is unacceptable. What does he mean by he is sitting where he is sitting.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:25 p.m.
    What has he said that you want him to withdraw?
    Mr. Owusu-Agyemang 4:25 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, what he said is unacceptable.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:25 p.m.
    I have already ruled him out of order.
    Dr. Nduom 4:25 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member himself always claims to be a member of the Convention People's Party (CPP) so why is he sitting where he is? [Laughter.]
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:25 p.m.
    Hon. Members, do not let us draw ourselves into controversies that may even affect the Chair. So let us continue.
    Dr. Nduom 4:35 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, the point I am trying to make is that we have over the years missed the point entirely. When the Malaysians were here there were arguments over why these

    Maj. (Dr,) (Alhaji) Mustapha Ahmed (retd): Mr. Speaker, I am on a point of Order. The Malaysians, as strategic investors, did not come in primarily for management. Their role in Ghana Telecom was completely different from the role of the Norwegians. He is therefore misleading this House.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:35 p.m.
    Hon.
    Member, the hon. Minister has not talked about strategic investor and management; he said when they were here, that was what was said, and when the Norwegians were here that was what was being said about them. So your point of order is completely misplaced.
    Mr. Chireh 4:35 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I beg to
    say that I have a point of order. And this point of order is a matter of relevance. We are not debating Ghana Telecom, and therefore we should stick to the motion. They pleaded with us and we agreed to sit down and pass this motion. So if he begins to debate, he should bring a motion to debate Ghana Telecom. His debate should be relevant.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:35 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, that is
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:35 p.m.
    So what
    is your point?
    Mr. Adjaho 4:35 p.m.
    My point is on relevance. The issue is the estimates. Do we have any problem with the figure which has been moved by the hon. Minister on behalf of the Ministry?
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:35 p.m.
    Hon.
    Deputy Minority Leader, indeed, this is a debate, we are talking about the estimates for the particular Ministry. Hon. Members of this House, particularly the hon. Member who contributed before the hon. Minister for Public Sector Reforms, made some very serious points.
    Indeed, he talked about management and so on and so forth. The hon. Minister is also contributing and he is also referring to what he has said. He has the right to do so. Indeed, what he is saying is very relevant. Let him continue.
    Dr. Nduom 4:35 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, the hon.
    Member for Tamale South made two good points that I want to emphasize. First, the point about valuing the assets of Ghana Telecom. Mr. Speaker, because if the assets of Ghana Telecom had been valued before the Malaysians came and we knew the value, and as a result knew what we were doing, perhaps we would have avoided the present situation.
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    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:35 p.m.
    Hon.
    Member for Tamale South, are you on a
    point of order?
    Mr. H. Iddrisu 4:35 p.m.
    Rightly so. Mr.
    Speaker, I think that the hon. Minister for Public Sector Reforms is grossly misleading this House because his facts are not too accurate. I just want to point out the inaccuracies in his point.
    Mr. Speaker, Ghana Telecom was never sold out to the Malaysians. What the Government of Ghana did was to download a thirty per cent interest valued at US$38 million; and that was the highest paid for any line in the world at the time that the Ghana Telecom transaction was being done. So he should get his records straight and then we would move on from there.
    Dr. Nduom 4:35 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I know the
    hon. Member is a lawyer -- [Laughter] -- and he is trying to use words to confuse people. But if you give thirty per cent of your shares in something to someone in return for cash, what have you done? Have you not sold it?
    Mr. Speaker, this is Parliament, this not

    My point is that, he made a good point

    and I agree with him, that we should value the assets and make sure that when we are selling we get good value for it. But before we can get good value, I am still making the point that we should be making, rather than suspecting everybody, the point about the Ghanaian and all of this.
    Mr. Chireh 4:35 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, you are a
    lawyer but the hon. Minister said because the hon. Member for Tamale South is a lawyer, he is using words to confuse people. Is he saying that lawyers use words to confuse people?
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:35 p.m.
    You are
    out of order.
    Dr. Nduom 4:35 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I really wish the Ministry of Communications would take this matter into serious consideration. That yes, they have put some Ghanaians there, pay them well and let us compare what they are paying to them to what they paid to the Norwegians and to what were paid to the Malaysians who were managing. Otherwise, we would come back to a similar situation where we would say that the Ghanaians did not perform, and then someone would say let us go and bring someone else again.
    It is important that for once, we pay attention to our own Ghanaian people, our own professionals, pay them well and let them deliver. For me, as part of this budget, as we are dealing with this matter that is strategic, let us do that rather than paying attention to going to investigate some people, going to look for potential fraud, going to do all of these matters that have come because we put all of our measures and our hopes in some foreigners who always come, pay themselves better and we leave the Ghanaians worse off.
    So this is something important to the
    Ministry of Communications. I think we should carry this forward positively so that the Ghanaian can work.
    Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I support the
    motion.
    Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho (NDC --
    Avenor-Ave): Mr. Speaker, looking at the Committee's Report, I have a problem with this motion on floor. Mr. Speaker, I have a problem and I cannot support it. Mr. Speaker, I cannot support it because if you look at page 8, item (b) of the Committee's Report, we are told that the Internally Generated Fund (IGF) for the Ministry of Communications is ¢856,000,000. But if you look at page 9, Mr. Speaker, you
    Dr. Nduom 4:45 p.m.


    would find that we are told -- “. . . Upon discussions with the MOFEP therefore, a projected receipt of ¢3,356,000,000 is expected from GMA and KACE in 2007. Out of this amount, MOC is expected to retain ¢856,000,000 to be utilized as follows . . .”

    Clearly, we are talking about IGF

    of ¢3.3 billion of which the Ministry is getting ¢856 million. So how do you say that the total IGF is ¢856 million at page 8? Mr. Speaker, that is my first problem with what the money is going to be used for.

    My second problem is that if you look at article 176 of the Constitution, it is stated that it is the department that collects the money that retains it to defray its Administration expenses. Now, we are even being told that of the ¢856 million, administration is going to take ¢250 million, Service is going to take ¢250,000 and Investments is going to take ¢256 million. IGF is not supposed to be used for investment purposes, if you look at article 176 (2) of the Constitution.

    Secondly, it is not the Ministry of Communications that is collecting the IGF for them to retain; it is the department that collects the IGF that is supposed to retain it to defray its administration expenses.

    So the GMA does not collect the money to give some of it to Ministry of Communications, by virtue of article 176 of the Constitution. In any case, I want to find out from them, under which Act of the Ghana Meteorological Authority they are collecting this IGF. What is the Act, and does the Act say that they should use it for investment purposes?

    Therefore, it is very clear that if you look at article 176 of the Constitution and you look at what they want to use this money for, there is a problem with

    this Report. One, the IGF we are being told is not correct -- ¢3.3 billion as against ¢856,000,000. So if you look at this Report and what the money is being used for, it sins against article 176 of the Constitution.

    The best thing to do is to take the Report back and do a realignment and come back. Then we would be in a position to understand exactly what the total IGF is and under what law the Ministry is taking part of the IGF. If you retain it, it is to defray their administration expenses; but here it is being used for something outside the provision of article 176 of the Constitution. Clearly, Mr. Speaker, I cannot support this motion --Inter- ruption/
    Mr. Kojo Armah 4:45 p.m.
    On a point of order.
    Mr. Speaker, I have looked at article 176 which was cited by my hon. Colleague there and I do not see where the article talks about the administration expenses. So if he could give us further particulars of that one, we shall all be better off. The article does not talk about administrative expenses at all. So I want him to give us better particulars of that one.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:45 p.m.
    It talks
    about expenses in (b), that is article 176 (2) (b).
    Mr. Adjaho 4:45 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, we are
    talking about article 176 (2). When there is an IGF -- if you look at (a) and (b) -- one, there should be an Act which gives you the power to collect the money; and two, the Act should provide for retention; and when there is even the Act, it is only for administration expenses.
    Mr. Speaker, these are the points I am making. If there is no IGF -- there should be a law authorizing them to retain. There should be a law authorizing them to collect
    the IGF. Where is that law and what does the law say? Other than that these are moneys that should go straight into the Consolidated Fund; or even when they get it they are saying that they are to defray administration expenses.
    These are my submissions.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:45 p.m.
    Hon.
    Deputy Minority Leader, what is your point? Your point is that you are raising an issue with the Report of the Committee, or you are raising an issue with an allocation from the budget statement for that particular Ministry. What exactly are you driving at?
    Mr. Adjaho 4:45 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, my
    submission is that whatever allocation that we make must be consistent with the fundamental law of the land and that is the Constitution of the Republic of Ghana.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:45 p.m.
    I agree
    with you but which allocation are you talking about?
    Mr. Adjaho 4:45 p.m.
    We are talking about
    an IGF. What we are talking about is that there should be a law backing you to collect an IGF. I want to know which law authorized them to collect that IGF. They should provide that law and show where the law says they should use part of that money for investment and what percentage the law says. I have not seen any law that authorized them to do such a thing.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:45 p.m.
    You
    have made a very clear point but let us understand each other.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:45 p.m.
    Yes, what I am saying
    is that I cannot stop the total allocation but what they want to use it for, if it sins against the Constitution, I have a right to raise an objection and that is what I am doing now. If you take the money, you are supposed to use it for specific purposes.
    If they can realign it and use it for the right purposes, I have no objection. But the Report gives us an idea as to what the money is going to be used for and that runs counter to article 176 (2) of the Constitution.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:45 p.m.
    I want to
    have the reaction of the Deputy Minister before I make a ruling on that.
    Dr. B. Aggrey Ntim 4:45 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker,
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:45 p.m.
    Hon.
    Deputy Minister, I wanted you to react specifically to what he said before, maybe, you sum up. Because, he has raised it as a point and he is relying on the Constitution, and I tried to understand him although he did not speak specifically to the issue he was raising. But I want to hear your own reaction to what he is saying.
    Dr. Ntim 4:45 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, in connection
    with the IGF, I want to make it absolutely clear that up till now, there has not been any expenditure of IGF by either the Ministry or any of its agencies. Indeed, all the moneys that have been earned in the past have been paid into the Consolidated Fund.
    I take it that this Report is perhaps making a recommendation and perhaps, we need to look at that. Because, every time that we have made an application to the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning, our attention has been drawn to this present situation, that we could not actually spend IGF. That is precisely the case and indeed that is why the Kofi Annan Centre which in the past had earned some IGF has not been able to actually fall on this fund. So Mr. Speaker, this is to inform the House that indeed no such

    expenditure has been made on IGF by any of our agencies of the Ministry.
    Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 4:45 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I
    just needed to assist, to clear the doubts in the mind of the Deputy Minority Leader. I may, with your indulgence, refer him to page 10 of the Committee's Report, the first paragraph. I have no objection to his raising issue about who uses IGF but if you read that paragraph, ¢2.5 billion is projected as internally-generated fund to come from the Kofi Annan Centre of Excellence; and that is to be lodged appropriately in the Consolidated Fund; and that has been stated.
    Now, what the Committee sought to do was to make a recommendation that eight hundred and fifty-six million cedis of that could be used by the Ministry. If he has doubts as to its being used for other purposes, I concede; but the Committee did a diligent work in appreciating that ¢3.3 billion was anticipated as IGF. Rightly under the Constitution the larger part of it was to be lodged in the Consolidated Fund and a minimum of eight hundred million cedis recommended for --
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:45 p.m.
    Very well.
    Thank you very much.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:45 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I believe
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:45 p.m.
    Hon.
    Deputy Minority Leader, we all appreciate the point you are making but you have been told that indeed, all moneys to be collected by any of these agencies are to be lodged in the Consolidated Fund.
    However, this proposal is being made that some of these moneys that are generated from the various agencies, part of it is going to be used by the various departments under the Ministry for the purposes that have been stated.
    Indeed, the money allocated for the various Ministries, all of those moneys are from the Consolidated Fund. So for you to say that the money has to be put there first, then they come for the law before they are used, that I think is neither here nor there.
    Mr. Francis Agbotse 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker,
    I think that you are misunderstanding what the hon. Deputy Minority Leader is saying. Three years ago, this House approved 15 per cent of the Registrar- General's Internally-Generated Fund for use internally. But there is no law covering this one. There has to be a law from the Attorney-General's Office to this House; it has to be approved by the House before they can use 15 per cent of the amount. But because that has not been done, they cannot use the money that they are collecting. It is the same thing in the case of Ghana-India Kofi Annan Centre of
    Excellence or whatever. If they collect the money, they cannot use any part of it until a law is brought to this House approving a percentage of that amount to be used by them. I think that is all that he is saying.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:55 p.m.
    I believe
    what the hon. Member is saying is that that amount is an expected income which has been captured by the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning as being part of whatever is going to come into the Consolidated Fund. And it is expected that part of this money would be used by the Ministry because it is part of the Consolidated Fund.
    It is not being collected without any estimation of what money is coming into that kitty. We expect that they would have 30 million and out of this 30 million, the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning is allocating ¢15 million as part of allocation that we are giving to them. I believe that is what he is trying to say. I am not supposed to take part so I am not going to be involved in it.
    Dr. Ntim 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, precisely
    the point is what I made. Indeed, at this moment, the point is that some agencies are expected to be autonomous; we are actually nurturing them to be autonomous in the coming years. There are two of such centres: Kofi Annan Centre of Excellence and the Ghana Meteorological Services. Presently, they do draw on the Consolidated Fund, but in future, we need to nurture them to actually become autonomous, at which time they would actually generate as well as use the money that comes into their coffers.
    Mr. Opare-Ansah 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I think that what the hon. Member is referring to is on page 9, where we are saying that out of this amount, Ministry of Communications (MoC) is expected to apply to retain; and that is the sense in which we captured this particular phrase.
    I want to refer hon. Members to page 137 of the 2007 Budget Statement, where it is clearly stated that an internally- generated fund (IGF) of ¢0.856 million forms part of the allocation to the Ministry. So I believe that with the passage of the Appropriation Bill, clearly the law that the hon. Deputy Minority Leader is talking about would have been passed and which would then enable the Ministry to be able to apply for and access that portion of the IGF.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, the
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:55 p.m.
    It is
    essentially the same.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, what we have here is that out of this amount, the Ministry of Communications is “expected to retain”, and when we say that they are going to retain, it means automatically that -- [Interruption.]
    Mr. Opare-Ansah 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I
    Mr. Adjaho 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, they are
    changing words -- [Laughter] -- but at least that is a movement from the original position. [Interruption.]
    Mr. Speaker, we started from a point. If you look at the previous Appropriations, we do not even put a clause there for IGF at all. It is because we are trying to make sure that these IGFs are used transparently that it has come. But you are authorized to
    collect in the first instance and you must be authorized to retain for your use, to defray your administration expenses, before you can even provide for it.
    But to even provide for it before the Appropriation Bill is passed -- I do not know what kind of arrangement this is. Mr. Speaker, I believe that it is totally wrong and I believe that this House ought to do the proper thing.
    Prof. G. Y. Gyan-Baffour 4:55 p.m.
    Mr.
    Speaker, on a point of order. Mr. Speaker, I think my senior Brother is misleading everybody. What we are doing is actually a preparation towards an Act of Parliament. If they apply to Parliament to approve of it and then after the passage of the Appropriation Bill it becomes a law, what is wrong with that? I think that this is actually in line with what is in the Constitution. So I think the hon. Deputy Minority Leader is misleading everybody in the House.
    Mr. Adjaho 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, I believe that the hon. Deputy Minister maybe is now trying to join the debate so I would excuse him. Mr. Speaker, the point that we are raising is that the law says that you must make a law for specific purpose; and it is in that law that you would know how much you have to retain.
    Mr. Speaker, I am asking the hon. Member that in those laws that they
    Mr. Simon Osei-Mensah 4:55 p.m.
    Mr.
    Speaker, on a point of order. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Deputy Minority Leader is trying to confuse himself and the whole nation. Mr. Speaker, first of all, we should not make an assumption that by approving the Budget, all supporting Legislative Instruments have been passed; that assumption is wrong.
    rose
    Mr. Osei-Mensah 4:55 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker,
    the hon. Member standing cannot rise on a point of order, so let me continue. Mr. Speaker, if the Budget states that a particular duty should be reduced maybe from 10 per cent to 5 per cent and we approve this Budget, an L.I. should be
    brought to this House for approval before that law can work or that portion of the Budget can work.
    Now, when we come to the application of IGF, we have two ways that it could be utilized. One, the institution would collect the money and deposit every 10 per cent in the Consolidated Fund and later apply for release of a portion to be used by that Ministry or department or agency. The second alternative is also to apply for retention of part of the IGF. The Committee's Report is stating that they are going to apply for retention; so that after the approval of this budget; they can go ahead and apply for retention and this would be given by the Ministry.
    So I do not understand where the hon. Deputy Minority Leader is dragging us to. He is confusing himself and the whole public.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 4:55 p.m.
    Hon. Members, I think that there must be a solution, we must have a stop to this debate.
    Mr. Adjaho 5:05 p.m.
    Mr. Speaker, this is an hon. Member who told this House last week that the Public Utilities Regulatory Commission (PURC) regulates petroleum products in this country; he ended up confusing himself and is now saying that I am confused.
    Mr. Speaker, before you collect a
    pesewa from any citizen of this country through any department, you must have a law in the first place. That will authorise you to collect any levy. In the first place, that is the basis. It is when you collect that the law would tell you that you are going to retain a certain percentage of that revenue to be used. What is that law which is authorising you to collect; and where is that law which is telling you that
    you should retain a certain percentage; and what is that percentage?
    That is the point we are making.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 5:05 p.m.
    Hon. Members, you have made your points so let me put the Question.
    Mr. Adjaho 5:05 p.m.
    In fact, surprisingly, the
    hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning (hon. Baah-Wiredu) appreciates these points I am making and I am surprised that his Deputy is lost.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 5:05 p.m.
    Hon.
    Members, let us move forward. Hon. Minister, can you now wind up, please?
    Deputy Minister for Communications (Dr. B. Aggrey Ntim): Mr. Speaker, we have taken note of all the relevant points raised by hon. Members of this House in connection with the various measures to be taken on the NCA. We have also taken note of the need to improve rural telephoning. Then the issue of VOIP and all the other areas, including the concern about Ghana Telecom (GT).
    But Mr. Speaker, as you are also aware,
    this Government is taking measures to privatise both GT and WESTEL. All the points that have been made in this august House will be taken into account in the coming months and years.
    Question put and motion agreed to.
    Resolved:
    That this honourable House approves the sum of ¢207,682,- 000,000 for the services of the Ministry of Communications for the 2007 fiscal year.
    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 5:05 p.m.
    Hon. Members, thank you very much, but there
    is one small matter - Laying of Papers by the Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning. It is Laying of Papers.
    PAPERS 5:05 p.m.

    Mr. First Deputy Speaker 5:05 p.m.
    Hon.
    Members, thank you very much. It has been a very lively debate and I
    thank you for your endurance. The House will therefore stand adjourned
    till tomorrow at 10.00 a.m.
    ADJOURNMENT 5:05 p.m.