Debates of 22 Feb 2019

MR SPEAKER
PRAYERS 10:38 a.m.

VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS AND THE OFFICIAL REPORT 10:38 a.m.

Mr Speaker 10:38 a.m.
Hon Members, correction of Votes and Proceedings of Wednesday, 20th February, 2019.
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Mr Agbodza 10:38 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I was in Parliament on Wednesday but I have been marked absent.
Mr Speaker 10:38 a.m.
In view of a difficulty which arose as to whether marking was being done up here as well as writing of names downstairs, all those who may not find their names should please see the Table Office to make the relevant corrections after here.
Thank you.
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Mr Speaker 10:38 a.m.
What I said applies through pages 1 to 9.
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Mr Osei-Owusu 10:38 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I regret that I have to take you back to page 10. I am looking at item numbered 10, “The Rt. Hon Speaker withdrew from the Chair at 2.20 p.m.”
Mr Speaker, that cannot be. The House adjourned before 2 p.m. Mr Speaker withdrew from the Chair just around 12.00 midday. So the correction should be made.
Mr Speaker 10:38 a.m.
Thank you very much.
Hon Members, the Votes and Proceedings of Wednesday, 20 th February, 2019 as corrected be hereby adopted as the true record of proceedings.
Hon Members, Votes and Proceedings of Thursday, 21st February, 2019 for your consideration.
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Mr Speaker 10:38 a.m.
Hon Member, if it is about attendance, the directive made earlier just for our convenience would apply to pages 1 to 8. Those involved should kindly see the Table Office and have those issues corrected accordingly.
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Hon Members, the Votes and Proceedings of Thursday, 21st February, 2019 as corrected and as directed to be corrected is hereby adopted as the true record of proceedings.
Official Report of Friday, 14th December, 2018.
Any corrections?
Ms Sarah A. Safo 10:38 a.m.
Mr Speaker, respectfully, Hon Members do not have copies of the Official Report that you have referred to and I believe it is fair that Hon Members all have -- Even Leaders do not have copies. So we cannot follow the correction.
So Mr Speaker, respectfully, if we could step it down, we would very much appreciate it.
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker 10:38 a.m.
Are they not available?
Table Office, are copies of the Official R e p o r t of 14th December, 2018 available to Hon Members?
Ms Safo 10:38 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the indication I have from the Clerks-at-the-Table is that copies of the Official Report are not available.
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Mr Speaker 10:48 a.m.
Yes, Hon Member?
Mr Ahmed Ibrahim 10:48 a.m.
Mr Speaker, we do not have copies, and I agree with the Hon Deputy Majority Leader. So we could go straight to the Business Statement and correct the Official Report on Tuesday.
Mr Speaker 10:48 a.m.
Definitely. Thank you very much, Hon Member.
Hon Members, the adoption of Official Report dated 14th December, 2018, is therefore suspended until the relevant Report is available and distributed to all Hon Members.
Hon Members, we would move on to the Business Statement for the Fifth week.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE 10:48 a.m.

Majority Leader) 10:48 a.m.
Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker, I rise to present the Business Statement for the Fifth Week ending Friday, 1st March, 2019.
Introduction
Mr Speaker, the Committee met yesterday, Thursday, 20th February, 2019 and arranged Business of the House for the Fifth Week ending Friday, 1ST; March,
2019.
Mr Speaker, the Committee accordingly submits its report as follows 10:48 a.m.
Arrangement of Business
Formal Communications by the Speaker
Mr Speaker, you may read any available communication to the House.
Question(s)
Mr Speaker, the Business Committee has scheduled the following Ministers to respond to Questions asked of them during the week:
Mr Speaker, the Committee accordingly submits its report as follows 10:48 a.m.
No. of Ouestion(s)
i. Minister for Food and Agriculture -- 3
ii. Minister for Trade and Industry -- 4
iii. Minister for Finance -- 4
iv. Minister for Sanitation and Water Resources -- 2
v. Minister for Youth and Sports -- 1
vi. Minister for Defence -- 1
vii. Minister for National Security -- 2
viii. Minister for Roads and Highways -- 5
Total Number of Questions -- 22
Mr Speaker, eight (8) Ministers are expected to attend upon the House to respond to twenty-two (22) Questions during the week. The Questions are of the following types: i. Urgent - 1; ii. Oral-21
Statements
Mr Speaker, pursuant to Order 70(2), Ministers of State may be permitted to make Statements of Government policy. Statements duly admitted by Mr Speaker may be made in the House by Hon Members in accordance with Order 72.
Bills, Papers and Reports
Mr Speaker, Bills may be presented to the House for First Reading in accordance with Order 120. However, those of urgent nature may be taken through the various stages in one day in accordance with Order 119.
Pursuant to Order 75, Papers for presentation to the House may be placed
on the Order Paper for laying. Committee reports may also be presented to the House for consideration.
Motions and Resolutions
Mr Speaker, Motions may be debated and their consequential Resolutions, if any, taken during the week.
Debate on the Message on the State of the Nation
Mr Speaker, a motion to thank H.E. the President for the Message on the State of the Nation would be moved on Tuesday, 26th February 2019.
Mr Speaker, in accord with the practice of the House, the Business Committee recommends the .time allotments for Hon Members to make their contributions.
The time allotments are as follows:
i. Mover of Motion 25 minutes
ii. Leadership/Ministers 15 minutes
iii. Chairpersons/Ranking Members/Dep. Ministers 12 minutes
iv. Other Hon Members 8 minutes
v. Winding up by Leadership 30 minutes
Mr Speaker, the allotment of time is to ensure that as many Hon Members as possible are availed the opportunity to contribute to the debate on the Message by H. E. the President.
Mr Speaker, the Committee would however, urge Hon Members to endeavour to be as brief as possible and also avoid repetitions. The Business Committee accordingly proposes that the House embark on the debate by structuring each day's debate to focus on particular sectors of the state or economy.
Mr Speaker, the debate on the Message on the State of the Nation is proposed to be concluded on Tuesday, 5th March
2019.
Extended Sittings
Mr Speaker, it is recommended that the House have extended Sittings to ensure that debate on the Message on the State of the Nation concludes on Tuesday, 5th March 2019.
Conclusion
Mr Speaker, in accordance with Standing Order 160(2) and subject to Standing Order 53, the Committee submits to this Honourable House the order in which the Business of the House shall be taken during the week under consideration.

Urgent Question --
Mr Eric Afful (Amenfi West) 10:48 a.m.
To ask the Minister for Food and Agriculture what plans and measures have been put in place to evacuate the dried cocoa beans purchased by Licensed Cocoa Buying Companies (LBCs) from societies to the district depots at Samreboi, since the road between Prestea Junction and Samreboi has been blocked since March, 2017 to date due to the stoppage of construction works on cocoa roads in Ghana.
Questions
*510. Mr Yusif Sulemana (Bole/ Bamboi): To ask the Minister for Food and Agriculture the specified locations of the 311 facilities earmarked for intervention under the “one village, one dam” programme.
*511. Mr Mohammed Abdul-Aziz (Mion): To ask the Minister for Food and Agriculture the performance outcomes of the Government's “planting for food and jobs” programme.
Mr Eric Afful (Amenfi West) 10:48 a.m.
*514.Mr Muhammad Bawah Braimah (Ejura-Sekyedumase): To ask the Minister for Trade and Industry what is stalling the completion of three high quality cassava flour factories started by the Ministry (EDAIF) at Ejura, Kintampo, and Damongo.
*515. Mr George Nenyi Kojo Andah (Awutu-Senya West): To ask the Minister for Trade and Industry what steps are being taken to revamp the operations of the Ayensu Starch Factory.
*532. Mr Ras Mubarak (Kumbungu): To ask the Minister for Trade and Industry what the Ministry is doing to ensure that manufacturers of plastic products produce recyclable materials.
*533. Mr Ekow Hayford (Mfantseman): To ask the Minister for Trade and Industry what plans the Government has to revive the Saltpond Ceramic Company at Saltpond.
Statements
Presentation of Papers --
Report of the Finance Committee on the Additional Loan Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and the Saudi Fund for Development (SFD) for an amount of seventy-five million Saudi Rivals (SR75,000,000.00) [equivalent to US$20.00 million) to finance the construction of additional facilities, supply and installation of medical equipment to the adjunct Clinical Block at the Bolgatanga Regional Hospital in the Upper East Region.
Motions --
(a) That this Honourable House thanks H.E. the President for the Message on the State of the Nation which he delivered to Parliament on Thursday, 21st February 2019.
(Commencement of Debate)
(b) Third Reading of Bills --
Right to Information Bill, 2018.
Consideration Stage of Bills.
Payment Systems and Services Bill, 2018. (Continuation)
Chartered Institute of Bankers (Ghana) Bill, 2018.
Committee sittings.

Questions --

*424. Mr MichaeI Yaw Gyato (Krachi East): To ask the Minister for Finance the amount paid on every GH¢100 transaction on mobile money transfer, whether the payment is made at the point of deposit, withdrawal or both.

*493. Mr Isaac Adongo (Bolgatanga Central): To ask the Minister for Finance how much the Government of Ghana (Bank of Ghana) has paid to GCB Bank for the takeover of selected assets and liabilities of UT and Capital Banks, giving full details of terms and conditions of any instrument used for the payments.

*534. Mr Isaac Adongo (Bolgatanga Central): To ask the Minister for Finance why the GCB Bank has not filed its audited financial statements with the Bank of Ghana and the Ghana Stock Exchange as at 21/05/

2018.

*535. Mr Kwame Govers Agbodza (Adaklu): To ask the Minister for Finance whether the introduction of the “Paperless Port” has increased the cost of doing business at the ports.

*536. Mr Samuel Nartey George (Ningo-Prampram): To ask the Minister for Sanitation and Water Resources if the Ministry is aware of damage to the Ghana Water Company Limited lines serving the Afienya Electoral Area, if so, what steps are being taken to remedy the situation.

*537. Mr Wahab Wumbei Suhuyini (Tolon): To ask the Minister for Sanitation and Water Resources why pipe-borne water which was extended to Tolon and its environs, does not flow regularly.

Statements --

Motions--

(a) That this Honourable House thanks H.E. the President for the Message on the State of the Nation which he delivered to Parliament on Thursday, 21st February 2019.

(Continuation of Debate) (b) That this Honourable House

adopts the Report of the

Committee of Selection on the Re-Composition of Committees of the House.

(Moved on Wednesday, 31sl October, 2018 by the Hon Deputy Majority Leader, Ms Sarah Adwoa Safo and seconded by the Hon Deputy Minority Leader, Mr. James Klutse Avcdzi) (Continuation of Debate)

Consideration Stage of Bills--

Payment Systems and Services Bill, 2018. (Continuation) Chartered Institute of Bankers (Ghana) Bill, 2018. (Continuation)

Committee sittings.

Questions --

*538. Mr Ras Mubarak (Kumbungu): To ask the Minister for Youth and Sports whether the National Youth Authority received its five per cent allocation of Common Fund for the year 2017 and if it did, how the allocation was spent.

*539. Mr Yusif Sulemana (Bole/ Bamboi): To ask the Minister for Defence when the new 368-Unit Housing Project comprising two and three bedroom apartments constructed for the Navy in Tema New Town will be put to use.

*540. Mr Samuel Okudzeto Ablakwa (North Tongu): To ask the Minister for National Security when he will submit a report to Parliament on the Intelligence Agencies covering the year 2017 pursuant to section 17 of
Mr Eric Afful (Amenfi West) 10:48 a.m.
the Security and Intelligence Agencies Act of 1996 (Act 526).
*541. Mr Samuel Okudzeto Ablakwa (North Tongu): To ask the Minister for National Security if there exists a national policy on housing elected sitting Presidents of Ghana, and if not, when will one be formulated for strict adherence.
Statements--
Motions--
(a) That this Honourable House thanks H.E. the President for the Message on the State of the Nation which he delivered to Parliament on Thursday, 21st February 2019.
(Continuation of Debate)
(b) Adoption of the Report of the Finance Committee on the Additional Loan Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and the Saudi Fund for Development (SFD) for an amount of seventy-five million Saudi rivals (SR75,000.000.00) [equivalent to US$20.00 million) to finance the construction of additional facilities, supply and installation of medical equipment to the adjunct clinical block at the Bolgatanga Regional Hospital in the Upper Last Region.
(Consequential Resolution)
Second Reading of Bills--
Public Holidays (Amendment) Bill,
2018.
Consideration Stage of Bills--
Payment Systems and Services Bill, 2018. (Continuation) Chartered Institute of Bankers (Ghana) Bill, 20 i 8. (Continuation) Companies Bill, 2018.
Committee sittings.

Questions--

*552. Ms Naana Eyiah (Gomoa Central): To ask the Minister for Roads and Highways what plans the Ministry has to construct the following stretch of roads in the Gomoa Central Constituency: (i) Gomoa Endium - Gomoa Lome (ii) Gomoa Awomberew - Gomoa Nsuaem (iii) Gomoa Achiase - Gomoa Dabom (iv) Gomoa Abaasa - Gomoa Ayensuadze (v) Gomoa Ekwamkrom - Gomoa Manso.

*553. Mr Kobcna Mcnsah Woyome (South Tongu): To ask the Minister for Roads and Highways when construction of the following roads will commence: (i) From Cisneros Hotel through Detsaome (ii) From Bekpo through Gonu to Sukladzi.

*554. Mr Patrick Bogyako-Saime (Amenfi East): To ask the Minister for Roads and Highways what steps the Ministry is taking to upgrade the Insu Junction - Oppong-Valley road.

*555. Ms Laadi Ayii Ayamba (Pusiga): To ask the Minister for Roads and Highways when Pusiga will get tarred roads linking the township to its adjoining communities of Zuabulga Deega, Kuamise, Kolgungu, College Tendanatenga

and Garke, as there is no single tarred road.

*556. Mr Gabriel Osei (Tain): To ask the Minister for Roads and Highways when the following roads in the Tain Constituency will be complete: (i) Wenchi - Sampa (ii) Tainso Junction (Badu) - Odomase.

Statements--

Motions --

(a) That this Honourable House thanks H.E. the President for the Message on the State of the Nation which he delivered to Parliament on Thursday, 21st February 2019.

(Continuation of Debate) (b) Third Reading of Bills--

Payment Systems and Services Bill,

2018.

Consideration Stage of Bills

Chartered Institute of Bankers (Ghana) Bill, 2018. (Continuation) Companies Bill, 2018. (Continuation)

Committee sittings.
Mr Speaker 10:48 a.m.
Thank you very much, Hon Deputy Majority Leader.
Hon Members, any contributions?
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Mr Speaker 10:48 a.m.
Yes, Hon Member for Adaklu?
Mr Agbodza 10:48 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I thank the Hon Deputy Majority Leader for the presentation of the Business Statement.
Mr Speaker, my first comment is with regard to the debate on the President's Message to the House. It is stated that the mover of the Motion would speak for 25 minutes.
Mr Speaker, normally, what we do is that the Hon Chairman moves, and his Ranking Member Seconds the Motion. So are we now going to have a situation where if the Hon Chairman moves and speaks for 25 minutes, the Hon Ranking Member would speak for only 15 minutes?
Normally, we give equivalent time, so I would suggest that unless the mover is somebody different, the mover and the seconder should have the same period to speak.
Mr Speaker, that is all I have to say on this matter.
Mr Speaker 10:48 a.m.
Any other contribution?
Mr Ebenezer Narh Nartey 10:48 a.m.
Mr Speaker, thank you for the opportunity.
Mr Speaker, mine is not on the Business Statement, but I expect that we would have it.
Mr Speaker, on the 6th of February, 2019, the Hon Deputy Majority Whip presented a Statement, when the Member of Parliament for Ayawaso West Wuogon was sworn in, and there were some placards shown. The Deputy Speaker asked the Clerks to produce a video to show those who used the placards on the floor.
I believe that they were given two weeks, but today is the 22nd of February, and so that means that the two weeks is over. I therefore expect that we would have that report, so that we would know how we could go about it.
Mr Speaker, thank you.
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Mr Speaker 10:48 a.m.
Yes, Hon Member?
Mr Ahmed Ibrahim 10:48 a.m.
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker, I know that you always try to be very fair to both Sides, but with this thing, if we allow it to stand the way it is, it may create certain problems for you and so I would want to bring it to the attention of the House.
Mr Speaker, if we look at the time allotment for the contributors of the Message on the State of the Nation, we have Hon Ministers speaking for 15 minutes.
The equivalent of an Hon Minister on the Minority Side of the House is an Hon Ranking Member, so if an Hon Minister is speaking for 15 minutes here, then we expect that his equivalent on the Minority Side must also speak for 15 minutes.
Mr Speaker, therefore items (ii) and (iii) should be combined -- Minister, Leadership, Chairperson and Ranking Members, must all speak for 15 minutes each. But if we allow an Hon Minister to speak for 15 minutes and an Hon Ranking Member, who should respond from the Minority Side to only speak for 12 minutes, then there may be some kind of unfairness in that direction.
So to make sure that we assist the Chair to bring fairness to both Sides, I would suggest that items (ii) and (iii) -- Ministers, Chairpersons, Ranking Members and Leadership must all speak for 15 minutes.
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Mr Speaker 10:48 a.m.
Yes, Hon Dr Okoe Boye?
Dr Boye 10:48 a.m.
Mr Speaker, thank you very much.
Mr Speaker, respectfully, I do not agree with my Hon Colleague on the other Side that the equivalent of an Hon Minister on their Side of the House is an Hon Ranking Member.
Mr Speaker, if we would scrutinise the word “equivalent” very well, then I do not believe that an Hon Minister's equivalent is that of an Hon Ranking Member. I appreciate the work the Ranking Member does, but I do not agree that it is a statement of fact. For that matter, equity with reference to allotment of time is not something that should be considered.
Mr Speaker, thank you for the attention.
Mr A. Ibrahim 10:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, because our Standing Orders do not recognise the position of a shadow minister, the one who responds on this Side, when an Hon Minister speaks on that Side, is a Ranking Member.
So if you give 15 minutes to a Minister who would be speaking on that Side, then a shadow minister, even though he is not recognised in our Standing Orders, must be given equal time to respond to some of the issues raised.
That is the application I am making. I do not want us to create a challenge for Mr Speaker, where eight Ministers would speak on that Side, then eight Ranking Members would speak on this Side; and
when people speak for 15 minutes here and some are speaking for 12 minutes there, somebody would say that Mr Speaker is being unfair, meanwhile the problem is not created by Mr Speaker.
That is why I am bringing it to the attention of the House -- equal time for equal levels on both Sides. When a Minister speaks for 15 minutes overthere and a Ranking Member or shadow minister responds on this Side, he should be given 15 minutes, even though the Standing Orders do not recognise the position of a shadow minister.
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker 10:58 a.m.
In fact, seriously speaking, we can recognise shadow ministers by our own conventions and practices. Nothing stops us from doing that as a matter of justice and equity. There is no difficulty and it is something that this Honourable House has been doing and would continue to do, so let us not engage in unnecessary debate over this.
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Mr Speaker 10:58 a.m.
Hon Majority Leader, I would cal l you to conclude the discussion --
Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 10:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, just a minor matter with respect to the issue raised by my Hon Colleague in reference to shadow ministers.
Mr Speaker, I think for the umpteenth time, it must be stated that in the presidential system, the concept of shadow ministers is unknown.
In the Westminster system, the concept of shadow minister is known and it is those who are opposition
spokespersons for the various sectors who almost invariably assume that office once their party assumes power. That is where the concept of shadow ministers originates from.
In the presidential system, it is not known.
Mr A.Ibrahim 10:58 a.m.
It is the hybrid system.
Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 10:58 a.m.
The hybrid system is not known. It is the reason why a President, when he is elected -- In fact, the Constitution is clear in article 58 that executive power is vested in the President, and I have insisted that when Parliament has information from the presidency and requires Cabinets's approval I have always advocated that again in the Presidential system, it is unknown.
It is an aberration, because executive power is vested in the President and not in Cabinet. Cabinet exists just as an advisory body, and you do not fall on advisors to have the approval in Parliament.
Mr Speaker, so my Hon Colleague should know that, that concept does not exist in the presidential system, and I am stating this for the umpteenth time.
Mr Speaker 10:58 a.m.
Hon Majority Leader, we had just concluded this matter when you came in, I am not talking about the letter of the law; I am talking about conventions and practices that we could also develop in order to maximise democracy in our good country.
There must be equal time for whoever may generally be described as the shadow of the other Side. It does not matter which party is in power. We would be given equal time; that is the essence of what we are discussing now.
Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 10:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, respectfully --
Mr Speaker 10:58 a.m.
Hon Member, please, I would pray that we do not get into an argument over this.
Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 10:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, it is not an argument. I agree entirely with the convention that is evolving, but just to remind ourselves that when we first entered this House, even allocation of time to Hon Members -- At the time, because a number of the NPP and other parties amounted to just a third, the Speaker insisted that he would call one person from the Minority and two from the Majority; but we are growing. And --
Mr Speaker 10:58 a.m.
Hon Majority Leader, if an Hon Member refers to this in general terms as shadow, to me it is acceptable in parliamentary practice.
Hon Deputy Majority Leader, you may want to respond.
Ms Safo 11:08 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I do not intend to enter into that same debate, except to respond to Hon Agbodza who asked the question relating to the allocation of time that has been given to the mover of the Motion and the Ranking Member on the other Side.
Mr Speaker, we are starting the debate on the 26th of February and ending on the 5th of March, and at Business Committee meetings, there were reasons why we had to allocate these times this way, and both Leaders on the two Sides agreed.
Mr Speaker, I believe that when the Chairperson and the Ranking Member are given the same allocation of time, it serves the best interest to the extent that the Chairperson's counterpart is the Ranking Member.
The reason why Leadership and Ministers are allocated three more minutes than the Chairpersons and the Ranking Members -- If we would be honest with ourselves, we have to be specific with the rankings, and so for Leadership and Ministers, we decided to rank them at the same time.
If an Hon Member belonging to Leadership wants to make a contribution, it should be the same time as Ministers, and then Deputy Ministers are ranked on the same level as Chairpersons and Ranking Members.
I believe that there is constraint of time, given the fact that we have a number of Bills before us. We have the Payment Systems and Services Bill that we are doing now, and we have the Companies Bill that is very bulky that would be on the Order very soon as well as a number of Bills that would be coming to the Floor.
We do not want to extend the time for debate beyond a week, so I would urge Hon Members to bear with Leadership.
Mr Speaker, Hon Ebenezer Nartey also raised the issue of the demonstration of placards in the Chamber relating to the Hon Member for Ayawaso West Wuogon that was raised on the Floor.
The Hon First Deputy Speaker made some directions for the tapes to be presented to identify specific Hon Members who were holding those placards when persuasion on his part for Leadership on the Minority Side to apologise failed.
Mr Speaker, the information I am getting from the Table Office and the Clerk's Office is that, indeed, they have a tape, but the identification of the specific Hon Members has been a challenge and the tape has been presented to the Hon First Deputy Speaker.
Mr Speaker, I would assure Hon Members that Leadership would take the matter up. If Parliament tapes are not as visible as we are being told from the Public Affairs Directorate, I believe that on that day there were other media men in the Chamber who might have recorded what happened.
So Mr Speaker, we would not rest on that. We would make sure that the directives by the Hon First Deputy Speaker to get the tapes to identify specific Hon Members for purposes of contempt that has been cited would be followed, and we would ensure that those tapes reach the Hon First Deputy Speaker and the Privileges Committee.

Mr Speaker, I believe those were the very few questions that came relating to the Report of the Business Committee that was presented.

I thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker 11:08 a.m.
Thank you very much, Hon Deputy Majority Leader.
The Business Statement is accordingly adopted as presented.
Hon Members, I wish to express, before we go any further, my appreciation for the conduct of this Honourable House and Hon Members yesterday during the State of the Nation Address.
After serious consultations with the Leadership of both Sides and caucus meetings, it was agreed that this Seventh Parliament of the Fourth Republic shall put an end to placards, catcalls and allied activities which actually deride from the dignity of this Honourable House.
In fact, our Standing Orders prohibit placards in this Honourable House.
It is our decision and all of us, that no matter what political party is in office, no President of the Republic, whether from the New Patriotic Party (NPP) or the National Democratic Congress (NDC), shall be greeted in this Honourable house without decorum and what conducts are unpalatable or non-decorous.
Indeed, we are all agreed that placards constitute contempt of this Honourable House. The Seventh Parliament has done something which has never happened in the political history of the Fourth Republic. It should be recorded as a good example and I congratulate all of you and hereby record it. Credit goes to both Sides.

There are Urgent Questions addressed to the Hon Minister for Roads and Highways.
Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:08 a.m.
Mr Speaker, yesterday in the evening, the Hon Minority Chief Whip indicated that given what is intended for the NDC to do tomorrow, relating to the conduct of the presidential primaries, the Hon Members slated to ask the Questions, Hon Rudolf Nsorwinne Amenga-Etego and Hon Peter Nortsu-Kotoe, would not be around.
Mr Speaker, in that regard, we decided then to relocate the Hon Minister to next week because he could not just come and respond to one Question and then next week, too he comes to answer some other Questions.
As a matter of goodwill, we decided to relocate the Hon Minister to next week. We informed the Hon Minister accordingly this morning that the Questions would be taken next week.
Mr A. Ibrahim 11:08 a.m.
Mr Speaker, we have no problem with that. I believe it was a gentleman's arrangement. [Laughter]
Mr Speaker 11:08 a.m.
We could put all the Questions to another date. I remember very well that some Questions have been scheduled for next week Tuesday already. We shall look at these Questions next Friday so that we do not have any clash of Questions.
With that we would move to the item listed as 5 -- Statements.
Statement on interventions to cater for the aged in Ghana by the Hon George Kwame Aboagye, Hon Member for Asene/ Akroso/Manso.
STATEMENTS 11:08 a.m.

Mr George Kwame Aboagye (NPP -- Asene/Akroso/Aboagye) 11:08 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I took advantage of the festive Christmas season to visit and deliver gifts to over 300 elderly people in my constituency. The visit left me worried, seeing the state most of our elderly people have been reduced to.
Knowing the role that the elderly play in the development of every society and the services they have rendered through their lifetime, it is only wise for a nation to put proper measures to secure the health of its citizens in their old age.
Mr Speaker, according to Dr Ayete- Nyampong, the increasing population of the elderly in Africa and the notion that families in Africa cared for their ageing family members was no longer tenable.
As a result of modernisation, education, migration and globalisation, it is the responsibility of families, communities, civil society groups, religious groups, non-governmental and governmental organisations to care for the aged.
Mr Speaker, the rapid increase in the number of the elderly population means that Ghana, much like other African countries, must make extra efforts to adjust to the population shift and provide social safety nets and other effective support systems for the elderly.
Mr Speaker, although the population of Ghana is young and generally youthful, there is evidence of rapid increase in the size of the elderly cohort. The proportion of the population older than 60 is estimated to reach 12 per cent in 2050, from close to seven per cent in 2010.
Challenges
Mr Speaker, in Ghana today, and perhaps in most African countries, there are almost no structured, institutional programmes that cater to the needs of the ageing population. Senior citizens, in the past found avenues for meaningful engagement in their families and societies.
The main challenges faced by the elderly are loss of economic or financial independence, physical independence, undiagnosed and untreated
hypertension, difficulties in carrying out everyday tasks, poor utilisation of health services, inadequate preparedness of the health workforce to care for older people, undetected and/or unmanaged problems with eyesight and hearing loss, social exclusion with assumption that someone is actually taking care of them.
The predicament that the aged go through in Ghana mostly leads to their untimely death.
Recommendation
Mr Speaker, the elderly in every community, and especially Ghana, play a major role in the development of the country. They serve as repositories of information and beneficiaries of research conducted across the country (and continent at large) to help governments, business and non-profit organisations as well as individuals to understand issues regarding senior citizenship.
Their advisory role in matters of peace and human security and national development cannot be understated. A healthy, happy older population forms a repository of social capital that we can tap into for national development.
Mr Speaker, it is the responsibility of every country to protect the fundamental rights and freedoms of the aged, to empower them to effectively participate in economic, social and political activities and enablement to lead fulfilled lives. This could be achieved by empowering them financially, providing them with better health conditions and a safe and sound environment.
I congratulate the New Patriotic Party (NPP) for introducing the Livelihood Empowerment Against Poverty
Programme (LEAP) which has contributed immensely to the lives of the elderly and vulnerable across the country. However, I propose that:
The premium given to the elderly should be extended to cover a larger number of people and increased to a minimum of five hundred Ghana cedis
(GH¢500.00).
As a country, we need to go beyond the LEAP to develop a comprehensive welfare system that would guarantee their wellbeing and quality of life, such a welfare system would ensure that the aged do not suffer poverty after retirement.
The aged who are 75 years and above should be given access to free quality health care to encourage regular checkups for the elderly, which will increase the lifespan of most of the people in this country.
Provision of recreational facilities could be established as games and sporting activities which were popular with the elderly introduced at such centres.
Health care and communities should be educated on good care-giving techniques and some illnesses associated with ageing so that they could gain better understanding of the process of ageing and develop tolerance and good care practices for the aged.
Community sensitisation and improving health workers' ability to deal with the needs of the elderly, to broadening coverage of national health insurance schemes and making hearing devices and eye glasses available to people who need them.
Mr Speaker, finally, Ghana has in line with the United Nation's International Plan of Action on the Aged and government
Mr Speaker 11:18 a.m.
Thank you very much, Hon Member, for this well-thought-out and presented Statement.
Hon Member for Adaklu?
Mr Kwame Govers Agbodza (NDC - - Adaklu) 11:28 a.m.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. I thank my Hon Colleague for making this very important Statement.
Those of us who are relatively young never think that we would get to the point where we would also be called old. I just noticed that the number of grey hair on my face keeps increasing and this makes me realise that gradually, somebody would say that I am also getting there.
Mr Speaker, as a country, we need to take better steps to addressing the issue of ageing as my Hon Colleague has stated.
I always say that if we all get blessed to live long enough, we might become people classified as disabled, not because we do not have one of our legs or arms, but naturally, we would become weaker;
our eyesight would become weaker and hearing would become difficult.
As a country, do we have policies developed to take care of this? We should also acknowledge the fact that the more advancements we make in science and technology, the more people would live longer.
This means that we need to make provisions to take care of ourselves when we get to the stage where naturally, we would not be able to take care of ourselves the way we would have wished.
It would require money in terms of income for those who are retired and are still alive and can live as long as God wants them to live.
It would also require us to organise our environment in such a way that people who have a level of impairment, whether physically or otherwise, could also fit into the society.
Mr Speaker, I have always asked how a physically challenged person or elderly person of about 80 years or 90 years, who is elected as a Member of Parliament (MP), would use this particular Chamber we work from. I do not even think our Chamber is fit for taking care of people with reduced mobility among others. So it requires the State to take the necessary steps.
I am happy the Hon Minister for Works and Housing, under whose purview the Ghana Building Regulation lies, is in the House. The fact is that Ghana's Building Regulation is also not fit for purpose. It does not actually address certain issues in terms of the way the built environment is organised.
If it did, then our Chamber would not be the way it is. This is because I cannot see how a person in a wheelchair would
be able to use this Chamber without help. So the way we organise our built environment is also another issue we need to take care of.
Mr Speaker, the third one is about healthcare. Is our healthcare system organised in such a way that there are dedicated specialists who take care of elderly people? I am told the number of people who are specialists in that area are very scarce in this country.
If you are wealthy enough, you would probably have to seek that level of assistance from somewhere. If you are not, then maybe, you would have a lot of problems.
This is what I think we should do in response to my Hon Colleague's Statement. I think that we would have to develop a system of making everybody save more when actively working. I am not sure whether the current pension system gives adequate support for that.
I believe that everybody, while working, should acknowledge the fact that one day, they might be out of work and have a reduced income from the State.
So it is important not to think that the Government per se could provide all we want to have to live a decent life. So let us all take our savings culture seriously.
Today is Friday and many people would be more interested in contributing fat funeral donations so as to be the highest contributor. Maybe, putting some small money aside for the future in terms of some insurance scheme does not appear attractive at this stage, but I think that Government needs to drive this home more.
The fourth one is the culture. In other jurisdictions, if you entered a public
transport and saw an elderly person coming on board, if you were seated, naturally, you would give way and allow the elderly person to have a seat.
However, in our culture, we have a situation where people think that they have paid to join public transport to have their seat. Culturally, we should address that issue.
Mr Speaker, the next one is the fact that in our part of the world, elderly people are stigmatised. If you went for an interview and did not perform and failed, you would find out whether one of your grandmothers who quarrelled with you a few weeks ago is alive so as to blame her for not passing.
So the culture where we think that once people are old, they become our enemies among other things, must also be addressed. This could be taught even in schools, that elderly women are not equal to witches and elderly men are not equal to people who seek the downfall of young people.
Mr Speaker, I also wish the Hon Minister for Works and Housing would speed up work and bring to this House, a building regulation that is fit for purpose. So when we build, every building should be able to address the issue of how we would use it when we are 80 years or 90 years old and have nobody at home to assist us.

Yesterday, we talked about the Government providing a certain number of toilets in our communities. Mr Speaker, I have always been against that kind of policy.

Henceforth, building regulations should be enforced such that every building that is constructed should have
Mr Frank Annoh-Dompreh (NPP -- Nsawam-Adoagyiri) 11:28 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I thank you for your kindness and I would also want to thank the Hon Colleague for nudging the House on this sensitive socially important matter.
Mr Speaker, the records would show that in the Sixth Parliament, I had raised this matter profusely and I am happy the Hon Member has repeated it.
Mr Speaker, apart from the occasional celebration that we accord the aged, as the Statement rightly captured, consistent structural programmes devoted for the aged is non-existent, hence, it is so important that we look at them.
Mr Speaker, if I am not far from right, a decade ago, when one patronised public transport and found an aged person, one naturally had to give way for that person.
Some years down the line, the situation has changed, all because of the perception that is fuelling how we appreciate the aged. It is a very dangerous phenomenon because it is eating deeply into our societal fabric and it is time we paid particular attention to it.
Mr Speaker, I am aware of a Bill which is being worked on by the Ministry for Gender, Children and Social Protection. I would want to take this opportunity to appeal to the sector Minister to facilitate and enhance the work being done on the said Bill for it to be brought to this House for due consideration.
There are a number of welfare packages in our society and I do not see why there cannot be a rebate. For instance, why can we not have a rebate on public transport fares for the aged so that it would reduce the hardship they go through?
I am aware that the National Health Insurance has made some conscious effort to recognise the aged, which is good, and we would have to congratulate the sector Minister and the Ministry: but I am also aware of the existence of the Ghana National Ageing Policy.
Mr Speaker, we could tease out relevant portions of the Ghana National Ageing Policy and look at the possibility of hybriding it into the Bill yet to be presented and go ahead and legislate on it.
Mr Speaker, the Hon Member who made the Statement mentioned recreational centres. It is unimaginable that today, it is difficult even in well defined landscapes across to find recreational centres. These recreational centres should not just be for the aged.
I also need a recreational centre and we all need recreational centres because we need to stay healthy before we even get aged, and I could not have agreed more with the Hon Member who made the Statement that, that is so important.
We do not even have to reinvent the wheel since there are development modules across the world. The United Kingdom (UK) has a much defined policy and structures that are devoted for the aged. We could align and amend it to suit our situation.
This is a very important Statement; I know that to age is a natural call, and one day, we would all be there. I would want to plead that we give all the attention that this Statement deserves.
Two Hon Members -- rose --
Mr Speaker 11:28 a.m.
Before leadership, we would have a lady contributor.
Mrs Gifty Twum-Ampofo (NPP -- Abuakwa North) 11:28 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity given me.
Mr Speaker, I agree with and congratulate Hon Kwame Aboagye for making this wonderful Statement. This Statement is “John the Baptist'' to the Ageing Bill and that of the Social Protection Bill that have reached an advanced stage.
We have done some consultation with the Ministry of Health, and I would want to assure the Hon Member who made the Statement that the Ministry of Health is training geriatric doctors and nurses to provide appropriate and effective health care to our ageing population.
Ageing is a phenomenon nobody can say he or she would want to avoid. As we all do not want to age, none of us wants to die early as well. This means that ageing
Mrs Gifty Twum-Ampofo (NPP -- Abuakwa North) 11:38 a.m.
is something we all have to consider very well.
Our aged are a repository of knowledge and for that reason, there is the need for a place for them to meet to share ideas and make the ideas available to all of us.
However, in Ghana, per our tradition, whenever an aged person is kept in a home, he or she feels neglected because he or she might ask where his or her children are to take care of him or her.
So it is an issue that we would come to the Floor of this House and ask as representatives of the people -- We would all agree whether there should be a home for the aged or we are sure we would cater for them.
With the issue of LEAP, it has given us a number of positive records about taking care of the aged, but it takes care of the very poor -- not the poor but people with disabilities.

For example, somebody with an amputated limb may not be considered as somebody who is supposed to benefit from the LEAP, but then we need to consider all sorts of lives.

With the drafting of the Social Protection Bill, research has proven that those who are in informal sectors are the individuals, when they reach their old age they become very poor and vulnerable due to the absence of various forms of pension schemes that we do not encourage them to sign on to, and they themselves do not have the confidence in the system to get involve in this era.

Mr Speaker, I would want to appeal to the House that the Ageing Bill and the Social Protection Bill are almost at our doorsteps and for this Statement, I would want to thank the Hon Member who made the Statement and to appeal to the House to support and also get involve in the debate for all of us to get a very workable Bill for the aged and that of social protection to protect ourselves now and at old age.
Mr Ahmed Ibrahim (NDC -- Banda) 11:38 a.m.
Mr Speaker, thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to make very few comments on the Statement. To begin with, I must congratulate the Hon Member who made the Statement for bringing this to the attention of the House.
Mr Speaker, during the last Meeting, I think two committees of this House met at Ada, the Committee on Gender and Children and that of the Local Government and Rural Development, to consider the Social Protection Bill and the Ageing Bill.
So once our Hon Colleague has brought this to the attention of the House, I think a copy of this Statement must be forwarded to the Ministry of Gender, Children and Social Protection so that they take into account some of the good research that they have done as part of putting the framework for the Social Protection Bill and the Ageing Bill which would finally be brought to this House for consideration and approval.
Mr Speaker, the importance of the aged cannot be overemphasised; think from time immemorial, our culture and tradition recognised that.
It is not for nothing that even the modern system of governance has copied a lot from the traditional system. A lot of them come from the importance of the aged. And it is not for nothing that in the
olden days, when a chief was even installed, the elders would say, let us constitute a committee to be called the council of elders to be advising the chief.
I believe that the Council of State, as an emboldened system of governance has been copied from our traditional culture.
Mr Speaker, knowledge transfer from the aged to the youth shows the importance of the aged. Culturally, from the rural areas, when we were growing up, we used to sit by the fire side, where the aged would be telling us Ananse stories.
This is the kind of informal learning that they were using to transfer some of the good values in them into us. Most of these things, because of formal education, are gradually disappearing. The Hon Member who made the Statement made a proposal that we must make recreational facilities for the aged. I think it is a welcoming proposal.
When recreational facilities are created for the aged and they go there afterwards, there, they would find a way of identifying some of the talented ones who have very good future; they bring them closer and transfer the good values and experiences they have to these young ones.
Mr Speaker, the collapse of that kind of culture, by-the-fire-side, Ananse stories, informal training in our families and houses is what we are witnessing today as the culture of indiscipline in the youth.
Somebody may be very good and experienced in child upbringing, but that person may not have children in his or her house. But when a recreational facility is constructed, such a person would be
there and other people's children may be sent there for knowledge and experience transfer.
Mr Speaker, the Hon Member who made the Statement also spoke about good healthcare; the older one grows, the more expenses the person incurs in terms of the purchases of drugs et cetera.
I think that is also a worthy call and we must go the extra mile in saying that we must have a district hospital in every district so that healthcare would be accessible to most of these aged.
There are serious challenges being faced by the aged in terms of healthcare. Therefore the earlier we identified it as a problem, the better. It is a place all of us are trying to go. It is inevitable; it is a place one cannot dodge unless we are called by our maker.
Therefore any move to improve upon the lives of the aged must be a welcome call from every one of us to make sure that we embrace it. Whatever we would do to support Government to pass the Aged Bill and the Social Protection Bill, we should do it, because everybody is growing and we would be beneficiaries of that policy.
Mr Speaker, with these few words, I thank you for the opportunity, and I believe that a copy of this Statement would be sent to the Ministry of Gender, Children and Social Protection to be included in the Ageing Bill that we are trying to pass.
Mr Speaker 11:38 a.m.
Majority leadership?
Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:48 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the Majority Leadership is yielding our place to Hon Ebenezer Nartey.

[NII NARTEY]Ebenezer (Nii) Narh Nartey (NPP — A b l e k u m a C e n t r a l ) : Mr Speaker, thank you for this opportunity.

Mr Speaker, let me take the opportunity to thank the Hon Member who made the Statement for bringing to light the challenges that our aged face in this country.

Mr Speaker, most at times, if one is above 70 years and has a family, or let me say, from a rich home, the person is treated nicely. But those who do not have, they are seen as witches and wizards. Even the community in which they live treats them so badly.

They are neglected by family members, the churches that they attend and institutions in which they involve themselves. Some of them, even if they are to live more than the 70 or 75 years they die at an earlier age because the treatment they go through makes them die so early.

Mr Speaker, most at times, those who are being affected so much are the women. Anytime there is a young guy or lady in the house and things are not going on well with him or her, they attribute it to the old woman in the house.

But such a person probably has forgotten that when he or she was advised to go to school, he was roaming about but later attribute the suffering that he or she goes through to the old woman in the house.

Mr Speaker, for the men, they are always on the safer side because we do not see them as wizards. In my view, this Statement has come at the right time because the Hon Deputy Minister for Gender, Children and Social Protection is here.

Just as the Hon First Deputy Minority Whip said, when we were young, we used to watch Maame Dokono's “By the Fire Side” where stories were told to us.

Mr Speaker, the fact of the matter is that, some of these people are treated so badly. I remember when some of us were in the Primary and Junior Secondary Schools (JSS), when we get into a bus from Mataheko to Odokor and we realised an old man or woman coming to sit in the bus, we get up for him or her to sit down.

But today, as the former President Jerry John Rawlings said, “who born dog?” For a young student from any school to see an older woman or man in a bus and to stand up for the person, no, he or she would tell you he has paid as well as the old woman and so let her stand and he or she would sit.

Mr Speaker, I believe that it is time for us to educate the young ones in our schools. When we go to our Primary schools and JHS, some of the things that are being taught now are no longer things of the past.

Today, if one goes to some of our schools today, one would see a very young girl or boy using iPhone X and his or her teacher using a “yam phone” and so he or she does not even respect the teacher. [Interruption] A “yam phone” is the mobile phone without a camera.

How can there be respect in our schools if a pupil is using a phone that costs GH¢4,000 and the teacher who is being paid GH¢600 is using a “yam phone”? So there is no respect.

Mr Speaker, it is high time we get back to our roots and educate the young ones on the reasons why we have to give respect to the aged.

Even in this Chamber, sometimes you get to the elevator and you see young MPs like us forcing our way to enter the elevator when the old men with their walking sticks are standing waiting for the lift -- It does not even show respect. So I believe that it is time for us to discipline ourselves and also help the aged.

Mr Speaker, I remember when they introduced the Metro Mass Transit buses, we were told that the aged can board it free of charge, but today, they are paying the fares. On National Health Insurance renewal, they are still paying GH¢7 and GH¢8 for renewal.

Can we not do it free of charge for them? It is not every aged person who has the money to go and do this renewal or even register for health insurance.

Mr Speaker, all the 275 Members of Parliament, all of us in one way or the other have travelled outside the country and we see what is going on there. It is high time we change our ways and implement what we see elsewhere in our country and see to it that things go on well for us in this country.

Mr Speaker, I would want to urge the Hon Deputy Minister for Gender, Children and Social Protection to not only focus on the young ones selling on the streets but to also focus on the aged and see how best we would be able to help them.

As Hon Members of Parliament, we would also need to take good care of the aged in our constituencies. We should not wait till Christmas before we buy rice and oil for them.

It is time that we brought them together, interacted with them and even sought advice and blessings from them because these old people have a lot of blessings.

Mr Speaker, with these few words, I would want to thank the Hon Member who made the Statement and urge all of us to see how best we would be able to support the aged in our various constituencies for us to live long. I would want to live 120 years before I visit my ancestors and I pray to God that I live that long.

Mr Speaker, I thank you for that opportunity.
Mr Joseph Osei-Owusu (NPP -- Bekwai) 11:48 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I thank you very much for the opportunity to contribute just a small portion to the Statement ably read by the Hon Member for Asene Akroso Manso Constituency.
Mr Speaker, listening to my Hon Colleagues, it is obvious that we all want the best for the aged. Whether we want the society or the country to take care of them in their old age or we would strengthen our time tested custom where family members take care of their aged, either way, it comes to money.
All the things we have spoken about, I am sure if we had sufficient money, we would budget for the aged.
Mr Speaker 11:58 a.m.
Hon First Deputy Speaker, I thank you very much.
The Statement is further referred to the Committee responsible for “Social Inclusion” for consideration and further report.
At the Commencement of Public Business, the Hon Deputy Majority Leader?
Ms Safo 11:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, we would take item numbered 6 on the Order Paper. This would be laid by the Hon Chairman of the Committee on Defence and Interior.
I would want to seek your permission to allow a member of that Committee to lay the said Paper for and on behalf of the Hon Chairman of the Committee who is currently together with the Hon Minister for Defence and H.E. the President undertaking another State function.
Mr Speaker, the Hon Joseph Tetteh who is a member of the Committee would lay the said Paper.
I thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr Ahmed Ibrahim 11:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I do not want to litigate this, but I would want to be assured whether the Report is ready and sufficient copies are available, because the Hon Chairman of the Committee is not here and the Hon Deputy Majority Leader seeks your indulgence for a member of the Committee to lay it on his behalf.
Could the Hon Deputy Majority Leader tell this House whether the Report is ready and that sufficient copies are available for distribution before we could proceed?
Ms Safo 11:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the Report has been ready. If the Hon Deputy Minority Whip has adverted his mind to this, it has been on the Order Paper for a while. Dr Akoto Osei, who is a member of the Committee as well, has actually indicated same. It is ready to be distributed. So, once it is laid, sufficient copies would be available to Hon Members.
Mr Speaker 11:58 a.m.
The Hon Member may lay item numbered 6.
PAPERS 11:58 a.m.

Mr Speaker 11:58 a.m.
Hon Members, item listed 7 on the Order Paper, by the Hon Attorney- General and Minister for Justice?
Ms Safo 11:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the Motion is not ready to be moved. The Hon Deputy Attorney-General and Deputy Minister for Justice was in the House earlier but the Hon Chairman of the Committee was not here. Currently, the Deputy Attorney- General and Hon Deputy Minister for Justice is not here as well.
Mr Speaker 11:58 a.m.
If the Hon First Deputy Speaker would please take the Chair --
Ms Safo 11:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, respectfully --
Mr Speaker 11:58 a.m.
Just a moment. Hon First Deputy Speaker may get ready to take the Chair.
Now, Hon Deputy Majority Leader?
Ms Safo 11:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, this is an
indication of the fact that not too much
can be done today having in mind that our Hon Colleagues on the other Side have to travel to their various constituencies pending the presidential primaries within their political party for a flag bearer.
Mr Speaker, looking at the Order Paper, the next item would have been the Payment Systems and Services Bill, 2018. I think that it would be fair to both Sides of the House and to your good self to allow the House to adjourn so that our Hon Colleagues on the other Side can prepare adequately and go to their various constituencies for their presidential flag bearer elections.
On this note, Mr Speaker, if it is permitted, I would move that the House adjourn to Tuesday, 25th February, 2019, at 10:00 a.m.
Mr Ahmed Ibrahim 11:58 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion for adjournment. [Uproar.]
Question put and Motion agreed to.
ADJOURNMENT 11:58 a.m.