Debates of 1 Jun 2022

MR SPEAKER
PRAYERS 11:52 a.m.

Mr Speaker 11:52 a.m.
Hon Members, there is
no message from His Excellency the
President to the House, neither do I have
a formal communication today. I just
want to plead with you that any time any
of the Caucuses wants to have a meeting,
please let the House have notice. Do not
keep the House waiting with a last minute
information to the Speaker that a Caucus
is meeting. Let the other Side of the
House know so that they do not have to
come and wait for Mr Speaker to come
for the House to commence Sitting.
Please, let us extend these courtesies to
one another.
Now, we would move on to item
numbered 4.
Votes and Proceedings and the
Official Report
Hon Members, Correction of Votes and Proceedings and the Official Report. We would start with the correction of Votes and Proceedings of Tuesday, 31st May, 2022.
Page 1…8 --
Mr Habib Iddrisu 11:52 a.m.
Mr Speaker, with regard to number 39 and 51 on page 8, - both Members were present yesterday, but they have been marked absent.
Mr Speaker 11:52 a.m.
Clerks-at-the-Table, kindly take note of number 39 and 51; we are told they were present.
Mr Suhuyini Alhassan Sayibu 11:52 a.m.
Mr Speaker, on page 8, number 47, I was marked absent, but I was in the House yesterday.
Mr Speaker 11:52 a.m.
The Clerks-at-the- Table should also note number 47 on page 8. The Hon Member was present.
Mr Robert Wisdom Cudjoe 11:52 a.m.
Mr Speaker, page 3 is missing; there is no page 3.
Mr Speaker 11:52 a.m.
Do you mean that you do not have page 3?
Mr R. W. Cudjoe 11:52 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I do
not have page 3 so my name is also
missing.
Mr Speaker 11:52 a.m.
I have page 3. Hon
Member, what is your name?
Mr R. W. Cudjoe 11:52 a.m.
Mr Speaker, my
name is Cudjoe, Robert Wisdom.
Mr Speaker 11:52 a.m.
It is there on page 3 - “Cudjoe, Robert Wisdom, Prestea/ Huni- Valley”. You are captured. You need to replace your Votes and Proceedings with
a proper one.
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Mr Mohammed Adamu Ramadan 11:52 a.m.
Mr Speaker, on page 9, if I remember
very well, the leader of the Zambian
Delegation is the Leader of the
Opposition, not the “Opposition Whip”.
Mr Speaker, in the item numbered 5, it
has been captured as “led by the Leader
of the Opposition Whip”, but it is “led by
the Leader of the Opposition”.
Mr Speaker 11:52 a.m.
Clerks-at-the-Table, it
was the Leader of the Opposition who led
the team, not “the Leader of the
Opposition Whip”. The item numbered
5(i) is the Opposition Whip, but the
Leader of the Opposition is Hon Brian
Mundubile.
Hon Member, you are right. The
Clerks-at-the-Table should kindly take
note.
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Mr Samuel Okudzeto Ablakwa 12:02 p.m.
Mr
Speaker, in my copy, page 17 is blank so
I would want to find out if —
Mr Speaker 12:02 p.m.
Hon Member, you have
a wrong one so you may ask for a
replacement.
Mr Ablakwa 12:02 p.m.
Thank you, Mr
Speaker.
Mr Speaker 12:02 p.m.
Page 19.
Hon Members, in the absence of any
further corrections, the Votes and
Proceedings of Tuesday, 31st May, 2022,
as presented and corrected is hereby
adopted as the true record of proceedings.
Hon Members, we would now move
on to the Official Report of Tuesday, 24th
May, 2022. I hope Hon Members have
copies of this Official Report.
  • [No correction was made to the Official Report of Tuesday, 24th May, 2022.]
  • Mr Speaker 12:02 p.m.
    Hon Members, we
    would move to item numbered 5 on the
    Order Paper — Questions.
    VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS AND THE OFFICIAL REPORT 12:02 p.m.

    ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 12:02 p.m.

    MINISTRY OF WORKS AND 12:02 p.m.

    HOUSING 12:02 p.m.

    Mr Speaker 12:02 p.m.
    Hon Member, do you
    have any supplementary question?
    Mr Gakpey 12:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would like
    to ask the Hon Minister that prior to the
    review, did Government have any
    intention of decentralising the operations
    of the Rent Control Department?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    there is an ongoing decentralisation
    process and even as I speak, there are
    some district offices and we have 14
    regional offices. We have not achieved
    full decentralisation yet, but we believe
    strongly that the review of the Rent Act,
    1963 (Act 220) would enable us to
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    expedite the process of the

    decentralisation.
    Mr Speaker 12:02 p.m.
    Hon Member, any
    further supplementary questions?
    Mr Gakpey 12:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would like
    to find out from the Hon Minister that
    now that the challenges of rent are
    becoming unbearable, especially for the
    poor, is there any way by which actions
    could be expedited to the processes to
    lessen the burden with regard to these?
    Mr Speaker 12:02 p.m.
    Hon Member, are you
    talking about the reduction of the rent to
    lessen the hardship of the poor in society?
    That is the Question, Hon Minister.
    [Pause] Do you mean you have not even
    heard what I said? How to lessen the
    hardship of rent on the poor; that is the
    question.
    Hon Minister, are there any measures
    you are taking to lessen the hardship on
    the poor as a result of the situation in
    which we are?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    there are plans in the review process that
    would help lessen the rent that Ghanaians
    are paying. Government is also in the
    process of introducing a National Rental
    Assistance Scheme that would help
    provide rent advance to would-be-tenants
    who are on payroll to pay rent advance so
    that they do not suffer this phenomenon
    of having to pay long rent advance
    beyond the 6 months that is stipulated in
    the Rent Act 1963, (Act 220).
    Several Hon Members -- rose --
    Mr Speaker 12:02 p.m.
    Hon Members, kindly
    let him finish his supplementary
    questions.
    Hon Member, are you done?
    Mr Gakpey 12:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, yes, I am
    done.
    Mr Kwame Governs Agbodza and
    rose
    Mr Speaker 12:02 p.m.
    Hon Chairman of the
    Committee on Health, I think you are the
    senior.
    Mr Kwabena Mintah Akandoh 12:02 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, we came in the same year.
    Mr Speaker 12:12 p.m.
    So, you came together?
    In terms of age, who is senior? The senior
    man should take the first bite; the House
    takes seniority into serious consideration
    though it is not the final determinant.
    Mr Kwame Governs Agbodza 12:12 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, thank you very much for the
    opportunity and we thank the Hon
    Minister for answering the Question.
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    Mr Speaker, in line with what our Hon

    Colleague asked, in November 2020,

    prior to the general election, the Hon

    Minister's Government promised to pay rent for the youth in their second term.

    How far are the plans of Government

    with paying rent for the youth as

    promised during the 2020 general

    elections?
    Mr Speaker 12:12 p.m.
    The supplementary
    question does not follow the Question;
    the focus of the Question is on what
    measures Government is taking to
    strengthen the Rent Control Department
    to perform its lawful duties and now you
    are moving into other areas. However, the
    Hon Minister is available, so if he has the
    Answer, he is at liberty to give it but it is
    not actually a supplementary question.
    Hon Minister for Works and Housing, do
    you have the Answer?
    Yes, Hon Minority Leader, the Hon
    Minister said he has not got the Answer.
    Mr Haruna Iddrisu 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    thank you for indulging me with a
    supplementary question to the Hon
    Minister's Answer on rent. In the Hon Minister's Answer, he talked about digitalising rent control and if I
    understood the Hon Minister, the law
    provides that rent payable shall not
    exceed six months but in practice, we
    know that landlords demand rent in
    advance of one year, two years and three
    years. What step's the Hon Minister taking to enforce the Rent Act?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    am very much aware of the issues raised
    by the Hon Minority Leader and this has
    come about as a result of some market
    failures in the rental segment of the
    Housing Sector. This is because we have
    a very huge housing deficit, so the supply
    outstrips demands and as a result, there is
    a market failure. It has, therefore, become
    necessary in the light of what is
    happening to review the Rent Act, and
    that is one of the main reasons we are
    taking the necessary steps to review the
    Rent Act.
    At this stage, we are working with the
    Attorney-General's Department and also receiving proposals from all stakeholders.
    So if the Hon Minority Leader has any
    suggestions at this stage, they are very
    much welcomed, so that we could have a
    very updated Rent Law that could stand
    the test of time.
    rose
    Mr Speaker 12:12 p.m.
    Well, as an Hon Leader,
    I would allow you, other than that
    supplementary question is one at a time.
    “One man, one supplementary question”. [Laughter] If it were a woman, I would
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    have given two, but since he is an Hon

    Leader, I would allow him.
    Mr Haruna Iddrisu 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    thank you for tolerating me.
    Mr Speaker, I would like to find out
    from the Hon Minister for Works and
    Housing whether it is demand and supply
    which is regulating rent payable or the
    Rent Act?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it is
    not the demand and supply. In fact, the
    Rent Act is very clear on that; however,
    because of the deficit in the Housing
    Sector, it puts the landlords in an
    advantageous position and they are
    therefore, able to dictate what should be
    the duration of the rent advance. For
    instance, because of this advantageous
    position, it makes them conduct
    themselves in an opportunistic manner,
    therefore, if they give a person six months
    and the person is unable to afford, there
    are lots of others who would see them
    behind the scenes and pay the rent for
    about three years and I mentioned this
    during my vetting. That is what I referred
    to as the market failure, and as a result of
    this, we all need to come together to help
    with the review of the Rent Act that could
    stand the test of time.
    rose
    Mr Speaker 12:12 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Member for
    Bodi, Mr Ahi?
    Mr Ahi 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in the Hon
    Minister's Answer, he said that the Rent Control Law does not significantly
    address current challenges in the rental
    housing industry. Could he tell us some
    of the challenges and how the review
    seeks to address them?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    thought I mentioned these challenges that
    it is because of the demand and supply
    imbalances and the fact that the Rent Act
    which was passed some 60 years has
    basically outlived its usefulness, so this is
    the time for us to look at the current
    challenges we are faced with in the Rental
    Housing Sector, so that we could make
    the necessary suggestions for the new
    Rent Act.
    Mr Alhassan Suhuyini Sayibu - rose
    - 12:12 p.m.

    Mr Speaker 12:12 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Member for
    Tamale North, Mr Suhuyini?
    Mr Sayibu 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would like
    to find out from the Hon Minister for
    Works and Housing, for the purposes of
    clarification, if by his answer he is
    suggesting that because of the housing
    deficit, the State is helpless when it
    comes to enforcing the Rent Act?
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    Mr Speaker 12:12 p.m.
    Hon Minister for Works
    and Housing, did you hear him?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, yes.
    Because of the deficit, it has created
    demand and supply imbalance which is
    inhibiting Government's effort at implementing the current Rent Act; I
    believe I have made this point even from
    the beginning.
    Mr Speaker 12:12 p.m.
    Hon Members, we have
    taken sufficient supplementary questions;
    we would move on to --
    rose
    Mr Speaker 12:12 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Member for
    Sawla/Tuna/Kalba, Mr Chiwitey?
    Mr Chiwitey 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    considering the cost of building materials
    and the challenge the Rent Control has in
    resolving the differences between
    landlords and tenants, would the
    Government consider giving out advance
    loans to young people to pay for their
    rent?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in
    my first response to the supplementary
    question, I indicated that Government is
    about to start the implementation of a
    National Rent Assistance Scheme which
    would provide some sort of rent advance
    to would-be renters who are on payroll,
    so that they could pay back over a period
    of time on a monthly basis. So, there is
    already a programme which would be
    implemented very soon.
    Mr Speaker 12:22 p.m.
    Hon Minister for Works
    and Housing, in my Welcome Address to
    Hon Members, the Rent Bill that I
    referred to, and which has delayed in
    being presented to the House, I called on
    the Hon Minister leading that sector to
    expedite action on it. Law making is not
    that of the Executive; it is of Parliament.
    Policy formulation and formation start
    with the Executive but when it is to be
    translated to law, it ends up with
    Parliament. All the stakeholders you are
    inviting would also be invited to the
    House again. So, there is no need for that
    kind of delay in processing Bills at the
    level of the Executive because the
    relevant Committee of Parliament would
    have to go through the same process.
    Please, I would want to urge the Hon
    Minister — I said this Meeting, we are ready to receive the Bill and process it
    because housing is an essential of life — roof over the head of a person is very
    essential and it is the Government that has
    to lead in the provision of these roofs.
    They are not just for individuals - a house is a societal item, so the society should
    assist and the organ leading the society is
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    Government. I have been in that sector

    before but we have been playing too

    much politics with that sector.

    When the NDC Government was

    bringing the STX Housing Project, there

    was too much politics and there were

    allegations of corruption. Any Ghanaian

    who has any evidence about any

    corruption relating to STX should bring it

    out and let it be investigated. I was the

    sector Minister. I do not want to be

    reading baseless allegations in the media

    about what happened with STX. Please,

    let us stop playing politics with essentials

    of life.

    With this, we would move on to the

    next Question numbered 379 which

    stands in the name of the same Hon

    Member, Mr Kwame Dzudzorli Gakpey,

    the Member of Parliament for Keta.

    Yes, Hon Member?

    Efforts to Enforce the Law on

    Leasing Assets

    Q. 379 Mr Kwame Dzudzorli

    Gakpey (NDC - Keta): Mr Speaker, I beg to ask the Hon Minister what effort

    the Ministry is making to enforce the law

    on Leasing Assets in accordance with the

    Rent Control Act.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    thank you.
    Under the Rent Act, 1963 (Act 220)
    and the Rent Control Law, 1986 (PNDCL
    138), the Rent Control Department under
    the Ministry of Works and Housing is
    mandated to:
    1. Perform assessment of
    recoverable rent on an
    application by landlord,
    tenants or a person
    interested in the premises;
    2. Investigate and make a
    determination of
    complaints by landlords,
    tenants and other persons
    interested in the premises;
    3. Investigate and make
    determinations of any
    matters relating to the
    laws of Ghana referred by
    the Minister or the Rent
    Magistrate;
    4. Prepare rent registers;
    5. Maintain register of
    vacant premies;
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    6. Examine any landlord, tenant or other person for

    the purposes of

    ascertaining whether the

    provisions of Rent Laws

    of Ghana are being

    observed;

    7. Take measures against tenants who have

    absconded from their

    premises and force-open

    doors under the authority

    of an order made by the

    Rent Magistrate; and

    8. Make complaints to the Rent Magistrate that an

    offence under the laws of

    Ghana has been

    committed for the purpose

    of investigation and

    determination. The Rent

    Control Department has

    also intensified its

    sensitisation programme

    to educate the populace on

    their rights and

    responsibilities under the

    Rent Laws of Ghana.

    Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Works

    and Housing is working through the Rent

    Control Department to enforce the laws

    on Leasing Assets in accordance with the

    Rent Act, 1963 (Act 220) and the Rent

    Control Law,1986 (PNDC 138).
    Mr Speaker 12:22 p.m.
    Hon Member, do you
    have any supplementary question?
    Mr Gakpey 12:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in the
    Answer provided by the Hon Minister, if you look at points 2 and 3, “investigation and making documentations of complaints” are listed as some of the mandate of the Rent Control Department, so I would like to find out from him how many complaints have come to the Rent Control Department through the investigation they have been conducting and documentations they are making. Are there any records he could provide with regard to that?
    Mr Speaker 12:22 p.m.
    How many complaints
    have come to the Rent Control Department all over the country?
    Mr Gakpey 12:22 p.m.
    Yes, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 12:22 p.m.
    Hon Minister, do you
    have that data?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    know that they receive a lot of
    complaints. I have the data but I do not
    have them handy right now. I could come
    back to give the accurate information on
    that to the Hon Member.
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    Mr Speaker 12:22 p.m.
    Hon Member, that is
    quite a large number. Over the whole
    country, there are a lot of complaints of
    tenants in particular; there are some
    landlord - they are a lot - and therefore, maybe, this time they are even compiling
    2021. You did not mention the specific
    year anyway. So, the Hon Minister would
    need some time to be able to present that
    information to you.
    Yes, do you have any further
    supplementary question?
    Mr Gakpey 12:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I asked that
    question to ascertain whether the
    processes are working, so it is good the
    Hon Minister is going to get back to the
    House.
    In the point numbered 8, the Hon
    Minister provided in the Answer that “the Rent Control Department has intensified
    its sensitisation programmes to educate
    the populace on their rights and
    responsibilities under the Rent Laws of
    Ghana”. I would like to find out from the Hon Minister which media they are using
    to educate the populace with regard to
    rent control?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the
    Department has a regular schedule with
    radio and television stations, so the major
    media they use is radio and television.
    Mr Gakpey 12:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would like
    to ask the Hon Minister whether the
    government departments and institutions
    which sometimes rent from the private
    sector and pay two or three year rent
    advance do not contravene the Rent
    Control Act - and if he gets to know, what measures, actions or punitive measures
    would he take?
    Mr Speaker 12:22 p.m.
    Well, Hon Minister, I
    think it is a bit different from the earlier
    question, so please, if you have the
    answer, just put it --
    Mr Habib Iddrisu 12:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, this
    supplementary question is exactly as in
    Question 380 and it is also the same as
    what the Hon Minority Leader asked, so
    I do not want — if one looks at the Question 380, it is the same thing the Hon
    Member is asking.
    Mr Speaker 12:22 p.m.
    No, the focus of the Hon
    Minority Leader's question was different from this one and then, I think that the
    Hon Minister is entitled to respond to the
    question. So, let us allow him to do so.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:32 p.m.
    I am not too sure
    whether it is a supplementary question
    because that same Question is a
    substantive Question numbered 380
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    which also stands in the Hon Member's name.
    Mr Speaker 12:32 p.m.
    It is for me to determine
    whether I would allow the Hon Member
    to ask that question or not because he has
    brought it as a supplementary question
    under Question numbered 379. So, if you
    are able to respond to it, that would be the
    end of it and we would not go to it again.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    please, I would like him to ask the
    question again.
    Mr Speaker 12:32 p.m.
    Well, Hon Member, the
    Hon Minister's request is to allow him address it when he is answering the
    substantive Question in 308.
    Mr Gakpey 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would go
    ahead.
    Mr Speaker 12:32 p.m.
    All right.
    Any other supplementary question?
    Mr Alhassan Suhiyini Sayibu 12:32 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, I would want the Hon Minister
    to clarify his Answer to the earlier
    Question, where he stated that because of
    the housing deficit, the State is helpless in
    enforcing the Rent Act. However, in his
    Answer to the second Question, he tells
    us in the conclusion to the Answer that
    the Ministry of Works and Housing is
    working through the Rent Control
    Department to enforce the laws but
    earlier, he said the State is helpless at
    enforcing the laws because of the housing
    deficit and so I am a bit confused - It would be helpful if he reconciles the true
    position.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    did not say that the Government or the
    State is helpless. I pointed out the
    challenges in enforcing the existing laws,
    but as much as possible, we are making
    efforts to enforce it and we would have to
    do our best. However, we are challenged
    and in addressing these challenges, we
    have taken steps to review the Rent Law
    for which the Rt Hon Speaker has
    indicated that it is even long overdue.
    Mr Suyibu 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, thank you
    for indulging me. This is a House of
    records. My question was straight
    forward and the Hon Minister was
    categorical in his Answer when he said
    that yes, the State is helpless when it
    comes to enforcing the Rent Act because
    of the housing deficit. He was very
    categorical, and so I think that it is not fair
    for the Hon Minister to suggest that my
    confusion is baseless. This is because he
    was categorical when he said yes, the
    State is helpless when it comes to
    enforcing the Rent Act. I am just asking
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    him to reconcile that earlier position with

    this answer.
    Mr Speaker 12:32 p.m.
    Hon Member, you are
    insisting that he used the word “helpless”.
    Mr Suyibu 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, my question
    was, is the State helpless when it comes
    to enforcing the Rent Act because of the
    housing deficit and his answer was an
    emphatic “yes”.
    Mr Speaker 12:32 p.m.
    Hon Member, I did not
    hear the Hon Minister say that the State
    is “helpless”. I heard him say that the State is facing challenges. Help from
    who? If the State cannot lead, who else
    would help the State? Anyway, the Hon
    Minister is here, I cannot be seen to be
    speaking for him. Hon Minister, what did
    you actually say?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    never used the word “helpless”. I indicated that there are challenges in the
    enforcement of the existing Rent Act
    which is widely acknowledged in this
    country.
    Mr Speaker, in fact, it is on this basis
    that you have admonished us to expedite
    the process of bringing it to the House.
    So, I did not use the word “helpless”, and I think that is the theme of your question.
    With respect, since I did not use it. I do
    not think it is necessary.
    Mr Speaker 12:32 p.m.
    Hon Members, we
    would move on to Question numbered
    308, which stands in the name of Mr
    Kwame Dzudzorli Gakpey.
    Steps to Address the Issue of House
    Owners Taking More than Six
    Months Rent Advance
    Q. 308 Mr Kwame Dzudzorli
    Gakpey (NDC — Keta): Mr Speaker, I beg to ask the Hon Minister for Works
    and Housing, the steps the Ministry is
    taking to address the issue of house
    owners taking more than six months' rent advance from tenants before renting out
    their properties in contravention of the
    Rent Act, 1963 (Act 220).
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    Section 25 of the Rent Act, 1963 (Act
    220) prohibits landlords from taking
    more than six months rent advance,
    therefore, any landlord who contravenes
    the law commits an offence and is
    punishable by the law.
    The Ministry of Works and Housing
    through the Rent Control Department,
    has been addressing petitions brought to
    its offices for settlement.
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    Mr Speaker, the Rent Control

    Department has been undertaking

    sensitisation programmes to educate

    landlords and tenants on the provisions of

    the law, especially with regard to the

    rights and responsibilities of the

    landlords.

    Mr Speaker, rapid urbanisation and

    exclusive reliance on market

    mechanisms, as well as the inability of

    our housing delivery system to meet our

    population growth over the years has

    resulted in a huge housing deficit. As a

    result, the demand for housing has

    outstripped its supply, which ultimately

    favours landlords. To a large extent, this

    situation affects a significant section of

    the population, especially those in the

    lower to middle income range.

    Mr Speaker, in the medium to long

    term, the Ministry is pursuing policy

    measures to create the enabling

    environment, together with the private

    sector, for the provision of additional

    housing stock in the rental market.

    Mr Speaker, thank you.
    Mr Speaker 12:32 p.m.
    Hon Member, any
    supplementary question?
    Mr Gakpey 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in the Hon
    Minister's Answer - my Question is not
    necessarily about the demand and supply
    of housing deficit. My Question is related
    to how the law is enforced because
    whether there is demand and supply, the
    law is there. So, how are we enforcing
    that law when we are preventing
    landlords from charging not more than
    six months? That is what my Question is
    about.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    think I have mentioned it more than once
    here that the enforcement is challenged
    because of the demand and supply
    imbalances in the sector, and one of the
    steps that we have taken to make sure that
    we strike the right balance for tenants and
    landlords not to suffer in the Rent
    agreement is to review the law. This is
    because we also have to put in incentives
    in the law to make sure that landlords are
    able to recover in the course of their
    investments so that they can produce
    more to increase the housing stock.
    So, ultimately, there is a challenge in
    the enforcement of the law. We are saying
    six months, of course, we can say six
    months, but I would not take six months.
    After all, my daughter or son is coming
    from abroad so I would not rent it
    anymore but another tenant who is badly
    in need of a house would go round and
    meet the landlord and offer three years
    advance and he would take it.
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    That is why I am saying that

    enforcement under the current challenges

    is difficult and that is why we want to

    review it to address the concerns of

    landlords as well as those of the tenants.

    Thank you.
    Mr Speaker 12:42 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader?
    Mr Haruna Iddrisu 12:42 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    again, I am compelled to come up with a
    supplementary question for the Hon
    Minister for Works and Housing; this is
    because of the words in his Answer.
    The Hon Minister stated that
    significant sections of the population are
    affected. This means that significant
    sections of Ghanaians are made to pay
    GH¢20,000 or GH¢30,000 for one, two
    or three years in advance which is against
    the law. He also stated in his Answer that
    it is a punishable offence under the law
    which the Hon Member has to reconcile
    yet that is what pertains in the country.
    Landlords asking for huge sums of
    money for two or three years rent advance
    from GH¢20,000 to GH¢50,000 from
    poor tenants is against the letter of the law
    that he is supervising.
    Mr Speaker, so, what does the Hon
    Minister intend to do about it?
    Mr Speaker 12:42 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Minister?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:42 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, as
    far as I am concerned, I believe I have
    addressed this issue and the bottom line is
    the challenges in the enforcement of the
    law.
    Mr Speaker, does the Hon Minority
    Leader want the system to strictly enforce
    the law? None of the landlords want to
    pull back. Let us be realistic since rent
    matters are not issues that we should
    politicise. It is very important that we all
    come together and help with the review
    of the Rent Act. Thank you.
    Mr Speaker 12:42 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Member?
    Mr Ahmed Ibrahim (NDC - Banda
    -): Mr Speaker, is the Hon Minister
    telling this House and Ghanaians as a
    whole that the law should not be strictly
    enforced?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:42 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    cannot stand before the House and say
    that a law that has been passed to govern
    a country should not be enforced. I have
    indicated that in its enforcement, there are
    challenges and we are working together
    to review it. That is all.
    Mr Speaker 12:42 p.m.
    Hon Members, the
    Minister says that a strict enforcement of
    the law would cause more problems and
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    that is why they are revising it, and the

    Bill would be put before us so that we

    could update the law to, at least, capture

    today's realities. We are talking about a

    law that was passed in the year 1963 and

    we are in the year 2022. Definitely, it has

    outlived its usefulness and we need to

    breath fresh air into it and that is what we

    are doing but now, to strictly enforce the

    law would create chaotic situations in the

    country.

    Yes, Hon Member for Madina?
    Mr Francis-Xavier Sosu (Madina - NDC) 12:42 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in the last paragraph
    of the Hon Minister's Answer, he said that ‘the Ministry is pursuing policy measures to create the enabling
    environment for private sector
    participation.
    In order for this not to be business as
    usual, could the Hon Minister tell the
    House one of those policy measures that
    Government has introduced to create the
    said enabling environment?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:42 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    Government has just introduced a revised
    Affordable Housing Programme that is
    private sector driven, and recognises that
    we have to play a part in the provision of
    affordable housing for Ghanaians. I have
    mentioned time and again that there are
    statistics that say that 60 per cent of
    Ghanaians need some sort of support
    from the Government in order to access
    housing. It is in that respect that the
    Government is trying to absolve a major
    component of housing construction
    which is land and infrastructure.
    Mr Speaker, once Government
    absolves that in the new Affordable
    Housing Programme, we can subsidise
    housing to the cost of about 60 per cent.
    The Government would provide the land
    and the horizontal infrastructure on the
    land so that the private sector would come
    in, build and sell with an arrangement
    with the banks to provide long-term
    mortgages such that public servants could
    take advantage of it. That is what we are
    currently working on.
    Mr Speaker 12:42 p.m.
    Hon Members, we move
    on to the Question numbered 986, which
    stands in the name of the Hon Member for
    Bole-Bamboi, Mr Yusif Sulemana.
    Occupants of the UNDP Flats in
    Cantonments and Rent Issues
    Mr Yusif Sulemana (NDC — Bole/Bamboi) 12:42 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to ask
    the Hon Minister for Works and Housing,
    who the occupants of the United Nations
    Development Programme (UNDP) flats
    in Cantonments are and whether or not
    they pay rent to the Government?
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    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the
    UNDP Flats at Cantonments were
    constructed in 1960 to serve as a
    diplomatic enclave which offers
    residential accommodation to the staff of
    foreign missions in Ghana. The facility,
    as at December, 2020, comprised of 48
    flats, housed in four blocks of three storey
    buildings.
    Mr Speaker, the initial occupants of
    the UNDP Flats were mostly staff of
    foreign missions in Ghana, the Cuban
    Medical Brigade and staff of individual
    foreign companies.
    It is significant to state that since the
    construction of the flats, there has never
    been any major rehabilitation and
    therefore, the flats are in a deplorable
    state. The deterioration of the flats
    triggered the tenants who initially
    petitioned the Ministry to take measures
    to rehabilitate the deplorable state of the
    flats, to leave the flats for private and
    alternate accommodation which was
    considered suitable for them.
    Consequently, by year 2021, all the
    foreign nationals and diplomats who were
    resident in the flats vacated. Thus,
    creating the opportunity for squatters to
    take advantage and occupy the flats. The
    current occupants of the UNDP flats are
    squatters and therefore do not pay any
    rent whatsoever.
    Mr Speaker, there have been previous
    actions by the Ministry to give a facelift
    to the UNDP Flats by undertaking
    technical and financial appraisals of the
    flats and the measures being taken to give
    a facelift to the UNDP Flats to serve its
    original purpose include the following:
    • The Ministry, in consultation with the relevant institutions, is
    considering an eviction exercise
    to get all the squatters out of the
    buildings.
    • The Ministry of Works and Housing has included the UNDP
    Flats as part of its redevelopment
    scheme and therefore, is in the
    process of arranging a structured
    financing scheme for the
    rehabilitation as well as
    redevelopment of the flats.

    Mr Speaker, the Ministry would

    provide periodic updates in order to keep

    this august House abreast of the progress

    on actions being taken to rehabilitate the

    flats and generate revenue for the State.

    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Hon Member, any
    supplementary Question?
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    Mr Yusif Sulemana 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    would want to take the Hon Minister to
    paragraph 4 of his Answer. And with
    your permission, I would want to read:
    “The current occupants of the UNDP Flats are squatters and,
    therefore, do not pay any rent
    whatsoever.”
    Mr Speaker, this is very interesting.
    This issue was captured in the Auditor-
    General's Report for 2018. The Hon Minister submitted a response to the
    Public Accounts Committee, where he
    admitted that the occupants of these flats
    are National Security operatives. Today,
    the same Hon Minister is telling us that
    they are squatters.
    Mr Speaker, could the Hon Minister
    reconcile these? I am sad for this country.
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    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Deputy
    Majority Chief Whip?
    Mr Habib Iddrisu 12:52 p.m.
    Thank you.
    Mr Speaker, I would want to draw
    your attention to Order 67(1)(d).
    Mr Speaker, with your permission, I
    quote:
    “a Question shall not be asked regarding proceedings in a
    Committee which have not been
    placed before the House by a
    report from the Committee”;
    My Hon Colleague here referred to a
    Public Accounts Committee of which
    there -[Interruption] -was a question and answer which is not related to this, and I
    do not see why he should ask such a
    question.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister was not
    the Minister for Works and Housing in
    2018 as referred to the Committee, so
    how does the Hon Member expect him to
    answer a Committee Report which is
    against Order 67(1)(d)?
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    I am just trying to get
    the point you are raising. You said
    according to Order 67(1)(d),
    “a Question shall not be asked regarding proceedings in a
    Committee which have not been
    placed before the House by a
    report from the Committee”;
    So what —
    Mr Habib Iddrisu 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, he
    referred to a Committee, that is the Public
    Accounts Committee's proceedings, and related it to the question he asked the Hon
    Minister now. So my issue here is that
    one cannot relate proceedings at the
    Public Accounts Committee to matters in
    the House. That is my point.
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    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Hon Member, that is not
    what the Order says. The Order says
    “a Question shall not be asked
    regarding proceedings in a
    Committee which have not been
    placed before the House by a
    report from the Committee”.
    Are you saying that the Public
    Accounts Committee has not placed the
    Report before this House?
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, this
    is the 2018 Report that I made reference
    to. And that Report was brought here and
    copiously debated. So for the Hon
    Member's education, this particular
    reference he has made does not come in.
    Thank you.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Hon Minister, I am told
    that from the intervention of your Hon
    Leader, you were not the Minister in
    2018. Is that the case?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, if I
    am to respond to your Question, I was not
    the Minister in 2018.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    So you inherited the
    assets and liabilities?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:52 p.m.
    No. But I think
    he is referring to a statement that I may
    have made at the Public Accounts
    Committee. I said that they are squatters.
    That is what the Hon Member is saying.
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 12:52 p.m.
    You said they are National Security operatives.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:52 p.m.
    I said that they are National Security operatives? Yes.
    All right. Mr Speaker, I would respond
    to that.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Yes, please answer.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    during my vetting at the Appointments
    Committee, there were some Members
    who raised this issue that National
    Security officials are occupying UNDP
    Flats. This has been in the newspapers
    and we have all been under the
    impression that National Security
    operatives are occupying those flats. I
    have since checked with the National
    Security Secretariat and they have
    indicated to me that none of their
    operatives lives in the UNDP Flats. It is
    on this basis that I am saying that they are
    squatters.
    Thank you.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Hon Minister, you are
    talking about a different issue. He was
    talking about Public AccountsCommittee
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    meeting; not vetting, which is handled by

    the Appointments Committee. So talk

    about the Public Accounts Committee.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, yes,
    I am saying that it came up at the Public
    Accounts Committee and subsequently
    we read in the newspapers so we were all
    under the impression that those occupants
    were National Security operatives. So I
    actually believed, and that is why I made
    that assertion. But I have since checked
    with National Security and they have
    indicated that none of their operatives
    lives there.
    rose
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Member?
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, let
    me put it on record that I made reference
    to Public Accounts Committee and the
    specific Report is the 2018 Report of the
    Auditor-General. The Hon Minister
    appeared and swore an oath and spoke to
    the issues that were put before him. One
    of the issues was that his Ministry
    claimed to collect rent arrears to the tune
    of GHȻ3.4 million. And in his response, he indicated that those people occupying
    those flats are National Security
    operatives and that he wrote to the
    Minister for National Security to assist
    him recover that money.
    Today, he is telling this House that the
    occupants are squatters. That is why I
    asked him to reconcile the two.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Hon Member, you have
    gone beyond the issue or remit of
    questions and Answers. From the Hon
    Minister's response, he said that after that, he got in touch with the Ministry of
    National Security and the Ministry
    informed him that they do not have any of
    their staff members living in those flats.
    Therefore, the issue you are raising can be
    taken under a different process, not on
    Questions and Answers again.
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    having listened to you, it means that the
    Hon Minister lied to this House. That is
    what I want to put before him before I
    proceed. He lied under oath because if he
    did not have enough information, he was
    at liberty to say that he did not have that
    information. But he swore an oath and
    then lied to this House. Today, he has
    come here and is lying to us. That is my
    position.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Hon Member, that one
    is not admitted. If you read Order
    67(1)(b), it says:
    “a Question shall not contain any arguments, expression of opinion,
    inferences, imputations, epithets
    or controversial, ironical or
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    offensive expressions or

    hypothetical cases”.

    Now, the Hon Minister has come out

    to inform you that, yes, after

    crosschecking what he said initially, it

    was found not to be the case. So, as I said,

    there are other processes you would have

    to use, and if you are not conversant with

    them, I think your Hon Leaders would

    lead you.
    Mr Sayibu 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, respectfully,
    I just want to—
    Mr Sayibu 12:52 p.m.
    To seek your guidance on
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    What are you doing
    now?
    Mr Yusif Suleman 12:52 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, let
    me finish my question.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    He has not finished his
    supplementary questions.
    Mr Sayibu 12:52 p.m.
    Yes, we have not gotten
    there, and that is why I seek your
    guidance on the back and forth between
    the Hon Minister and the Hon Member
    for Bole Bamboi.
    Mr Speaker, I seek your guidance,
    respectfully. I just want to drink from the
    fountain of your wisdom.
    Mr Speaker 12:52 p.m.
    Yes, go on.
    Mr Sayibu 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am looking
    at Order 30(e) and (f). Order 30 (e) says:
    “Any act or conduct calculated or intended to deceive Parliament or
    any of its Committees;”
    (f) “deliberate misleading of Parliament or any of its
    Committees” may fall under contempt and others.
    So, Mr Speaker, I am just wondering
    if this could be considered to be an act
    intended to mislead Parliament, given
    that this information or Answers were
    given to a Committee of Parliament and
    this Answer is also given to the Plenary. I
    am just seeking your guidance if that is
    what you are suggesting to the Hon
    Member of Parliament for Bole Bamboi
    to consider.
    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    I am sure you did not
    hear what I said. It is not for the Speaker
    to do that. It is for you the Hon Members.
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    Please, any further supplementary

    questions?
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 1:02 p.m.
    Thank you, Mr
    Speaker.
    I would want to make reference to
    paragraph 2 of the Hon Minister's Answer where he said that because of the
    deplorable state of the facility, the
    legitimate occupants vacated the
    residence. Contrary to this, when he
    appeared before the Public Accounts
    Committee, he said that the Ministry had
    received reports of forceful eviction of
    the legitimate occupants. How does he
    reconcile the two?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, did
    the Hon Member say I said that “the Ministry has received reports of forceful
    eviction”? By who?
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the
    records are there and this is also a Report
    from your Ministry. The one you were
    holding on that day when you were
    speaking to us. I can quote from it, very
    briefly.
    With your permission, let me -
    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    Hon Member, you
    directed the question to the Hon Minister,
    so, it is to him and not any other person.
    Answer the question, Hon Minister.
    The question is directed to you, so if you
    are not the one, say so. If you are,
    respond.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    would like to find out from the Hon
    Member -
    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    Hon Minister, it is not
    your time to be asking questions, it is
    your time to answer questions. Would
    you want him to educate you?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:02 p.m.
    Yes, Mr
    Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    If you have not heard the
    question properly, you can ask the Hon
    Member to repeat the question but you do
    not ask the Hon Member questions.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:02 p.m.
    Hon Member,
    would you please repeat your question?
    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    The Hon Minister says
    he did not hear your question. Kindly
    repeat the question.
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, my
    question is that when the Hon Minister
    appeared before the Public Accounts
    Committee, the Hon Minister admitted,
    and it is on record that the legitimate
    occupants of that facility were harassed
    and chased out of the facility. That was
    what the Hon Minister said. Again, it is
    this response the Hon Minister gave us.
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    Today, the Hon Minister is saying that

    the deplorable state of the facility was

    their reason for vacating the property.

    These are two different positions, and as

    the Minister responsible for Works and

    Housing, I would like you to reconcile

    these.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:02 p.m.
    Thank you, Mr
    Speaker.
    Mr Speaker, I do not quite remember
    what I am alleged to have said at the said
    meeting.
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    that is the reason I said there is the need
    for me to quote from the Hon Minister's document. This document is in this
    House. It is part of our records. This was
    a response to Audit Observations from
    the Hon Minister's Ministry. In the document, there is a column that talks
    about Rent Arears of UNDP Flats to the
    tune of GH₵3,426,423.00.
    Now, I would make the document
    available. Column 3 of this document
    reads:
    “In 2017, the intervention of the Inspector-General of Police was
    first sought for the eviction of
    illegal occupants when the
    Ministry began to receive
    reported cases of forceful
    occupation of the flats and
    harassments of legitimate
    occupants.”
    This is what the Hon Minister's document said. And I am saying that, he
    was there and spoke to this issue. Today,
    he is saying that the occupants there left
    because of the deplorable state of the
    facility. Two different stances.
    Hon Minister, how do we reconcile
    this, since this is a House of records of
    which you are part?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, as
    far as I know, as the Minister, I have been
    in the Office barely a year, and the
    official records available to me indicate
    that the foreign diplomats who lived there
    left because the building was in a very
    deplorable state.
    Thank you.
    Mr Yusif Sulemana 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, for
    my final question, I would want to find
    out from the Hon Minister whether he is
    aware that there are arrears of
    GH₵3,426,423.00 outstanding in respect
    of this issue we are talking about. If the
    Hon Minister is aware, what is he doing
    to retrieve the money because
    Government needs money?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:02 p.m.
    Thank you very
    much, Mr Speaker.
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    I am aware of some arrears and I am

    taking the necessary steps to retrieve the

    money.
    rose
    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    Hon Member, you have
    asked your three supplementary
    questions already.
    Mr Kwame Governs Agbodza 1:02 p.m.
    Thank you, Mr Speaker, for the
    opportunity.
    May I ask the Hon Minister whether
    any of the rent owed to Government is by
    Members of the Diplomatic Mission
    because he has already said that the
    diplomats were there? It means they were
    the legitimate tenants who have vacated
    the place since 2021. Does any of the
    Diplomatic Missions owe Government
    rent based on the time that they occupied
    the place, and who are these Diplomatic
    Missions that owe the Ministry rent?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:02 p.m.
    Thank you very
    much, Mr Speaker.
    I have been told that there are some
    arrears but I am unable to say specifically,
    who is owing the Government. But I can
    come back to the House on that.
    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    Hon Member, who is

    Hon Member, is that your beard?
    Mr Samuel Atta-Mills 1:02 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    it is because I cannot afford a blade to
    shave my beard. [Laughter] - “Ekrom aye shi” to wit, times are hard. [Laughter]
    -- 1:02 p.m.

    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    Is that Hon Atta-Mills?
    Mr Atta-Mills 1:02 p.m.
    Yes, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 1:02 p.m.
    All right. I understand
    your age, so -- [Laughter] --
    Mr Atta-Mills 1:02 p.m.
    Thank you very
    much, Mr Speaker.
    I am the Vice Chairman of Public
    Accounts Committee, so I remember this
    Hon Minister. If I could ask him - the
    Hon Minister came here and admitted
    that there are squatters living in
    Government bungalows, and that they
    have been there since 2017. What has the
    Minister done to evict these people? Why
    is the Hon Minister encouraging
    hooliganism, allowing these people to
    live in Government houses without
    collecting rent? The next place they
    would be occupying would be the
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    Well, this is time for
    Questions. The Question that you asked
    is the first part, which is in relation to the
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    action being taken to evict them, since

    they have been there since 2017.

    Yes, Hon Minister?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the
    Hon Member is talking about 2017. I
    have been in office since 2021, which is
    barely a year. However, I mentioned in
    my response that the Ministry has
    absorbed the UNDP Flats into its new
    development scheme, and is currently
    arranging financing to redevelop and
    rehabilitate the place, so that it serves its
    original purpose.
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    Hon Minister, when
    Hon Members refer to you, they are not
    referring to you as an individual, but as
    the Ministry. When they talk about
    actions that are being taken, it is the
    Ministry they are talking about, and not
    you as an individual. Your words at the
    Committee level is what is now being
    taken against you in person, so you can
    say that was the information you got from
    the Ministry, then they can take you on as
    to why you did not crosscheck before you
    came to swear an oath. That is why a
    different process is to handle that, and not
    Questions and Answers.
    Mr Sayibu 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would like
    to find out from the Hon Minister when
    the squatters would be evicted from that
    building.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, as I
    stand here, I am not in a position to talk
    about the exact time, but I can assure the
    Hon Member that we would work on it.
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    Hon Minister, are
    squatters still there?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:12 p.m.
    Yes, Mr
    Speaker, there are squatters.
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    There are squatters as at
    today. So, you know there are squatters,
    yet they are still there.
    rose
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    Well, this is not an
    invitation for more questions. I would
    recognise the Hon Lady.
    Mrs Gizella Tetteh-Agbotui 1:12 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, in 2016, a contract was awarded
    on those same UNDP Flats to renovate
    and redevelop them. I am trying to
    reconcile the answers given that there are
    squatters in there, but a contract was
    awarded, mobilisation was given to the
    contractor, yet there are squatters — National Security personnel — I am even confused about what exactly is going on
    at the UNDP Flats. Does the Hon
    Minister have the right briefing? If so, has
    he also sought the right information from
    his predecessor who is sitting right here?
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    Hon Member, you may
    ask one question at a time. The question

    seeks to know whether the Hon Minister

    is aware that in 2016, a contract was

    awarded for the redevelopment of that

    UNDP Flat. Is that right?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    am aware. That is why I indicated that
    Government has made some attempts to
    rehabilitate and redevelop the place, but
    there is a scarcity of information
    surrounding those transactions, so I am
    currently working on getting more
    information so that I could possibly come
    back to brief the House.
    Mr Richard Acheampong 1:12 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, Government has an obligation
    to protect lives and property in the
    country, so now that the Hon Minister has
    confirmed that those people occupying
    the facilities are squatters, would he
    consider allowing them to stay there?
    This is because they do not have any
    place of abode, and it would help them to
    get a better place to live.
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    I am of the view that this
    question is moot, so we would leave it
    there.
    Yes, Hon Minister, I have not admitted
    the question. [Laughter] Is there any
    other supplementary question?
    Mr Gakpey 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon
    Minister, in providing his answer,
    indicated that indeed, they have arrears of
    rent to receive. Meanwhile, in his
    response, he indicated here on the Order
    Paper that they are squatters, and
    therefore, they do not pay rent. How does
    he reconcile the two statements?
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    The rent that was
    referred to are rents owed by earlier legal
    occupants. This was what came to the
    Public Accounts Committee, and it was
    about GH₵4 million. That was the reference I heard the Hon Member for
    Bole-Bamboi talk about. Squatters are
    squatters, and they do not pay rent.
    Mr Abednego Bandim Azumah 1:12 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, the Hon Minister indicated that
    they are considering measures. So, if they
    are people who had already left and they
    were supposed to be diplomats, how
    would he retrieve that money?
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    They were not
    “supposed” to be diplomats, they were diplomats. Those who were the legal
    occupants were diplomats, but it is not the
    case that diplomats do not pay rent; they
    pay rent. Wherever we have diplomatic
    relations outside, we pay rent. It depends
    on the bilateral agreement between the
    countries.
    rose
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    Do you want to have
    another bite?
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    Mr Yusif Sulemana 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    would like to put the record straight, since
    I was the one who originated the
    question. The Audit Report covers 2017,
    but it was brought to this House in 2018.
    From the response of the Hon Minister, in
    2017, the legitimate occupants had left,
    so the illegitimate occupants came in and
    stayed there for a year. That is what we
    are talking about regarding the arrears.
    So, it is those who had occupied it
    illegally who have not paid the rent, and
    if he had admitted —
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    No, if one occupies a
    place illegally, there would be no contract
    between him and the landlord. When a
    person gets premises as a tenant, he or she
    enters a lawful contract with the landlord,
    and agrees on the value of rent to pay. I
    am not answering for the Hon Minister,
    but I am just drawing the Hon Member's attention to the fact that what I referred to
    was right, because his question emanates
    from my reaction. So, it is not the Hon
    Minister.
    Mr Azumah 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, may I
    rephrase my question, then?
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    Yes, you may.
    Mr Azumah 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, with the
    squatters that the Hon Minister referred to
    in his Answer, is he aware that those
    people are fanatics of the ruling
    Government called “Delta Forces”?
    Mr Speaker 1:12 p.m.
    Where is that allegation
    coming from?
    Mr Azumah 1:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, he referred
    to them as squatters, and I am asking
    whether he is aware that the people living
    in those flats are part of the Delta Force
    group.
    Mr Speaker 1:22 p.m.
    Are they part of Delta
    Forces? I do not know about any lawful
    Mr Azumah 1:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, that is why
    I would like the Hon Minister to tell us
    whether he is aware or not.
    Mr Speaker 1:22 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Minister, are
    you aware that the squatters are members
    of a group called Delta Forces?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    Mr Speaker 1:22 p.m.
    Hon Members, we have
    some other Business to do. We still have
    some more Questions left, so let us move
    on.
    We would now move on to Question
    numbered 1084, which stands in the name
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    of the Hon Member for Ketu South, Mrs

    Abla Dzifa Gomashie.

    Hon Member, it is your turn.
    Ms Abla Dzifa Gomashie 1:22 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, before I go on to the Question, I
    would like to seek your indulgence to
    correct the fact that my father is Mr
    Patrick Gomashie. I was married to
    Brigadier General Martin Ahiaglo whose
    name I did not carry, so the Table Office
    should kindly take note, and not refer to
    me as “Mrs Gomashie” because that is an anomaly.
    Mr Speaker 1:22 p.m.
    Yes, Table Office,
    kindly take note.
    Status of Phase II of the Blekusu Sea
    Defence Wall in the Ketu South
    Municipality
    Ms Abla Dzifa Gomashie 1:22 p.m.
    (NDC -
    Ketu South): Mr Speaker, I beg to ask
    the Minister for Works and Housing the
    status of the Phase II of the Blekusu Sea
    Defense Wall in the Ketu South
    Municipality.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the
    Ministry of Works and Housing is taking
    urgent steps towards the construction of
    the second phase of the Blekusu Sea
    Defense Project to mitigate the risk of
    coastal erosion and flooding of the
    communities along the coastal stretch due
    to intense tidal wave action.
    Beaches along the Blekusu coastal
    stretch are narrow and are eroding at an
    alarming rate because of tidal wave
    action. Some communities along this
    coastal stretch often experience flooding
    in the event of wave overtopping. These
    have impacted negatively on lives,
    livelihoods and properties.
    Mr Speaker, to mitigate beach erosion
    and flooding of communities along the
    Blekusu coastal stretch, the Ministry of
    Works and Housing from July, 2015 to
    July, 2019 engaged Messrs Amandi
    Holding Limited to complete the first
    phase of the Blekusu Coastal Protection
    Project.
    The works entailed the construction of
    23 Armour Rock Groynes to protect a
    coastal stretch of 4,300metres (4.3
    kilometres).
    Mr Speaker, the works done under the
    first phase has functioned effectively to
    protect the people, while enhancing
    fishing activities, which is the main
    source of livelihood for the affected
    communities.
    Mr Speaker, in my previous response
    to the same question to this august House,
    I indicated that the Ministry of Works and
    Housing noted the urgent need to

    undertake the second phase of the

    Blekusu Coastal Protection Project and

    therefore commissioned technical

    feasibility study focused on Blekusu

    community to enable Messrs Amandi

    Holding Limited continue with Phase 2 of

    the Project.

    However, Mr Speaker, in accordance

    with the Public Financial Management

    (Public Investment Management)

    Regulation, LI 2411, a more

    comprehensive feasibility study is now

    required. In that direction, the Minister

    for Finance in the 2022 Budget

    Statement, allocated GH¢10 million

    towards a comprehensive feasibility

    study of Blekusu and surrounding areas.

    Subsequently, my Ministry is engaging

    the Ministry of Finance for the release of

    the funds to enable the Hydrological

    Services Department undertake the

    additional feasibility study.

    Mr Speaker, I wish to indicate to the

    Honourable Member for Ketu South and

    this august House, that my Ministry will

    not relent in its efforts to enhance the

    resilience of our coastal communities to

    erosion and flooding, and I will update

    this august House as we make further

    progress.

    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    Ms Gomashie 1:22 p.m.
    I would like to refresh
    the memory of my Hon Colleague that
    your response to this House and to my
    Question, as you have referred to,
    indicated that we would see the
    commencement of Phase II at the end of
    the year, 2021. It is the same reason why
    this Question had to come back to this
    House in 2022. So, I am finding it
    difficult to reconcile your Answer to the
    Question in 2021 and the current Answer
    in this response which says that you are
    now commissioning a technical
    feasibility study focused on Blekusu
    community to enable Messrs Amandi
    Holding Limited to continue with the
    Phase II. Would the Hon Minister kindly
    make it clearer to me, since he said we
    would see the commencement in 2021?
    In fact, he even assured us that in June,
    we would see the sod cutting. How could
    we have the Hon Minister Answer that we
    would have a sod cutting in June, but we
    are now going to have a feasibility study?
    The Hon Minister may please help me
    understand that.
    Mr Speaker 1:22 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Minister?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    believe I addressed her concern in
    paragraph 5 of the Answer that I read.
    However, I would like to read it again:
    “Mr. Speaker, in my previous response to the same question to
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    this August House, I indicated

    that the Ministry of Works and

    Housing noted the urgent need to

    undertake the second phase of the

    Blekusu Coastal Protection

    Project and therefore

    commissioned technical

    feasibility study focused on

    Blekusu community to enable

    Messrs. Amandi Holding Limited

    continue with Phase 2 of the

    Project. However, Mr Speaker, in

    accordance with the Public

    Financial Management (Public

    Investment Management)

    Regulation LI 2411, a more

    comprehensive feasibility study is

    now required…”

    Previously, this was not required

    because we did not have this LI 2411, but

    now it is required, and insofar as it is

    required, we are now supposed to conduct

    an additional feasibility study which

    would include environmental feasibility

    and social feasibility, which was not done

    in the previous exercise. As a result, we

    are going to do additional feasibility

    study and this requires some resources,

    for which the Finance Minister has

    allocated GH¢ 10 million. We are

    currently engaging the Finance Ministry

    for the funds to be able to embark on the

    feasibility study.
    Ms Gomashie 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am
    sorry that this has to go the way it is
    going. I would like to read him what he
    said himself. The Hon Minister said, and
    perhaps he may want to call for the
    Hansard, and visit Citifmonline and
    Peacefmonline to see exactly what he
    said in June. He said, and with your
    permission I quote:
    “With immediate effect, we would continue the Phase II of the
    Sea Defense Project for the
    people of Adina, Agavedzi,
    Salakope and Amutsinu…”
    It is difficult for me to reconcile this
    new effort to do the feasibility study. He
    is continuing with a project that has
    already commenced in 2015. Phase I is
    completed, and his assurance to me in
    2021 was that Phase II was going to
    commence at the end of, 2021.

    The reference to the feasibility study was

    only because the Hon Leader of the

    Minority Side, the Hon Haruna Iddrisu

    had insisted that it finds expression in the

    Budget of 2022; that was only when the

    Hon Minister for Finance came back to

    make that addition. So, for the Hon

    Minister for Works and Housing to now

    rely on that addition which really is a

    feasibility study of the whole coastal

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    stretch begs the question. Please, the two

    are not the same.
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    Hon Member, what is
    the Question?
    Ms Gomashie 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, why is
    the Hon Minister for Works and Housing
    revising the Answers he gave me in 2021
    to this specific Question of the
    continuation of the Phase II of the Ketu
    South Sea Defence?
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    Hon Member, you may
    have to rephrase your Question.
    Ms Gomashie 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in 2021,
    the Hon Minister assured us in this House
    and also in Ketu South, in the presence of
    the community and the chiefs, that we
    would see Amandi back to site. The
    Minister said this in June 2021.
    Now, based on the request of the Hon
    Minority Leader for the Hon Minister for
    Finance to indicate what budgetary
    consideration had been done for the
    coastal communities, a certain figure
    which the Minister for Works and
    Housing has quoted in the Answer here
    was announced, but that has nothing to do
    with the continuation of Phase II of the
    Ketu South Sea Defence. So, I would like
    to ask the Hon Minister why he has
    provided the same answer which should
    not be because they are two separate
    issues. The feasibility studies is for the
    whole coastal stretch of Ghana. My
    Question is specifically for the Phase II,
    but the Hon Minister conveniently uses
    that response for the -
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    Hon Minister, I am sure
    you have got the Question now. You may
    respond.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, of
    course, I spoke about the Phase II of the
    Blekusu Coastal Protection Project and I
    assured the country that the Government
    is committed to the construction of that
    project; there is no doubt about that. I can
    say that the Government is committed to
    the construction of Phase II, but we are
    going through a process. I have just
    indicated to the House that the L.I. 24(11)
    was not in place when the previous sea
    defence projects were implemented.
    Now, we are required to do additional
    feasibility studies and it is a process that
    we have to go through. Regardless of our
    commitment, we cannot circumvent any
    legal processes to implement any project.
    It is process that we are going through;
    therefore, I do not think there is any
    contradiction in what I said in 2021 and
    what I am saying today.
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    Hon Member, would
    you still want --
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    Ms Gomashie 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, yes. This
    is my third supplementary question. The
    second one was --
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    As for your third
    supplementary question, I doubt that, but
    I would allow you.
    Ms Gomashie 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am
    grateful. Would the Hon Minister assure
    me of when exactly this would happen
    and when this L.I. came into being?
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    would want to assure the Hon Member
    that the Government is committed to
    implementing Phase II of the Blekusu
    Project, but I am unable to give specific
    timelines because I am going through
    statutory processes, so it depends on — There are bureaucratic and other
    processes that we have to go through. So,
    it would not be advisable for me to state a
    specific date. The Hon Member knows
    we are very much committed. I believe
    the L.I. came into being in 2020 before
    the previous sea defence projects were
    implemented.
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    Hon Members, we
    would move to the next Question and that
    is the last for the day. Actually, when we
    go through our Standing Orders, Order
    60(2) provides:
    “Question time to Ministers should ordinarily
    not exceed one hour except
    that the Speaker may in
    exceptional cases exercise
    his discretion and permit
    Questions after the
    expiration of the time stated
    and also, for such Questions
    as are described in Standing
    Order 64 (Urgent
    Questions).
    I decided to extend the time because
    for some days now, we have not had
    Question time, but it is now almost two
    hours, so we would take the last Question
    which stands in the name of the Hon
    Member for Okaikwei South, Ms Dakoa
    Newman.
    Completion of Final Phase of the
    Storm Drain at Kokompe
    Ms Dakoa Newman (NPP —
    Okaikwei South): Mr Speaker, I rise to
    ask the Minister for Works and Housing
    when the final phase of the storm drain at
    Kokompe in Okaikwei South
    Constituency would be completed.
    Mr Asenso-Boakye 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the
    Ministry of Works and Housing has taken
    note of the increasing risk of flooding in
    many parts of Accra. As we may be
    aware, Accra is low-lying, and many
    communities are prone to floods.
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    Mr Speaker, over the years, the

    Ministry of Works and Housing has

    implemented major drainage projects in

    many parts of Accra and indeed, other

    parts of the country to mitigate flooding.

    Mr Speaker, under the National Flood

    Control Programme, three major drainage

    projects have been completed in Greater

    Accra. These are the Dome Market

    (Phase II), Ashiyie and Gblekpo

    Drainage Projects. It is worth-noting that

    several other major drainage projects are

    at various stages of completion in the

    Greater Accra Region.

    Mr Speaker, some works were done on

    the drainage in Kokompe about a decade

    ago. The completion of the works was

    prioritised under the ongoing National

    Flood Control Programme. Hence, the

    Hydrological Services Department was

    tasked to carry out engineering surveys,

    designs and cost estimates. A contract

    was subsequently awarded for the works

    and the contractor is expected to mobilise

    and take possession of the site within the

    next few weeks.

    Mr Speaker, to conclude, I would wish

    to indicate to the Hon Member for

    Okaikwei South and this august House

    that my Ministry will continue to work

    towards enhancing the resilience of

    vulnerable communities upon obtaining

    the necessary financial resources.

    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    Hon Member, any
    supplementary Question?
    Well, if there are no supplementary
    Questions, I would want to state that the
    Question time is over. We would now
    move on to the item numbered 7.
    Hon Minister, you are accordingly
    discharged. Thank you for coming and
    responding to the Questions of Hon
    Members.
    Yes, Deputy Majority Whip?
    Mr Habib Iddrisu 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, now
    we can go to the Commencement of
    Public Business, Presentation of Papers,
    item numbered 7(c).
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    All right. I just want to
    inform the House that at the pre-Sitting
    Meeting, Leadership guided the
    Speakership that we would not take
    Statements today; we would take them
    tomorrow. We would move to the item
    numbered 7 — Public Business, Presentation of Papers — and I have been guided that item numbered 7 (c) is ready
    to be presented by the Chairman of the
    Committee on Finance.
    Mr Kwaku Agyeman Kwarteng 1:32 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, with your leave, I would like to
    make a correction to the item numbered
    7(c).
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    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    All right, leave granted.
    Mr Kwarteng 1:32 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, instead of
    what we have there, it should be “the Report of the Finance Committee on the
    Fees and Charges, Miscellaneous
    Provisions Bill, 2022”, not “2021”.
    Mr Speaker 1:32 p.m.
    Hon Members, please
    make the necessary corrections. It is
    “2022”, not “2021”.
    Now, you can go ahead to present the
    Report.
    PAPERS 1:42 p.m.

    Mr Speaker 1:42 p.m.
    Yes, which other item?
    Mr Habib Iddrisu 1:42 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, now,
    we can take the item numbered (9),
    Motion, on page 3.
    Mr Speaker 1:42 p.m.
    Hon Members, the item
    numbered (9) — Motion: That this honourable House adopts the
    Investigative Report of the Committee on
    Defence and Interior on the Incident of
    the Military Brutality on Civilians in Wa.
    Yes, Chairman of the Committee?
    Mr Habib Iddrisu — rose —
    Mr Speaker 1:42 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Member?
    Mr Habib Iddrisu 1:42 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, with
    your leave, the Vice-Chairperson of the
    Committee would move the Motion.
    Mr Speaker 1:42 p.m.
    Yes, I hope in your
    review of the composition of the
    Committees, you are taking care of the
    gender card. A number of the ladies
    would have to chair some of the
    Committees instead of being Vice-
    Chairpersons. Hon Deputy Majority
    Whip, it is just a notice to you, that if you
    have not done it, my Committee will do
    it.
    Yes, Vice-Chairperson?
    Hon Vice-Chairperson, before you go
    on, let me just be sure that Hon Members
    have copies of the Report because I tried
    to get mine and there was none. I have
    just been given a very hot copy. It is very
    hot, which means that it has just been
    printed. So, just give us a few minutes for
    the Report to be distributed to Hon

    Vice-Chairperson of the Committee

    (Mrs Ophelia Mensah Hayford): Thank

    you, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 1:42 p.m.
    Just hold your fire. Give
    us a few minutes — [Pause] —
    Hon Vice-Chairperson, you may now
    move the Motion.
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    SSGT SARPONG ADU KWAME 1:42 p.m.

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    CPL TORKUEBU OBED 1:42 p.m.

    CORPORAL 1:42 p.m.

    LCPL ANIWE HARRISON 1:42 p.m.

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    ABOAGYE 1:42 p.m.

    DETENTION 1:42 p.m.

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    Mr Speaker 1:52 p.m.
    The Motion is moved
    now — Any seconder?
    Ranking Member of the Committee
    (Mr James Agalga): Mr Speaker, I beg
    to second the Motion ably moved by the
    Vice-Chairperson of the Committee.
    In doing so, I would like to urge this
    honourable House to take the
    investigative Report on the incident of
    Military brutality committed against the
    people of Wa very seriously because this
    is one of the clear opportunities we have
    Investigative Report on the Incident of Military Brutality on Civilians in Wa

    as a House to demonstrate that following

    the advent of the 1992 Constitution, the

    Military is answerable to civil authorities.

    How do we ensure that the Military is

    answerable to civil authorities when

    atrocities of this nature are committed?

    Parliament's oversight mandate is a classical case where we are able to

    demonstrate the people's power over the Military, which is raised, maintained and

    sustained by the tax payers' money.

    Mr Speaker, having made these

    preliminary remarks, I would now like to

    delve into aspects of the Report for the

    consumption of the House.

    Mr Speaker, the particular

    investigation that was carried out by the

    Committee on Defence and Interior was

    at the instance of the Hon Minority

    Leader, who drew the attention of this

    august House to some military brutalities

    meted out to the people of Wa.

    Mr Speaker, your Committee,

    Committee on Defence and Interior,

    actually travelled all the way to Wa and

    engaged the various stakeholders,

    including the Military, the Regional

    Security Council (REGSEC), and the

    chiefs and people of Wa. It came to light

    in the course of our investigations that the

    trigger of the violence that was visited on

    the innocent people of Wa was the

    snatching of a phone that was supposedly

    owned by one soldier attached to the 10

    Mechanised Battalion in Wa.

    Mr Speaker, the facts show that the

    said soldier had gone into town in plain

    clothes (mufti) and was not even

    identified as a soldier. Unfortunately for

    him, two people on what is popularly

    known as “Mahama campboo” snatched his mobile phone and the following day,

    when he returned to the barracks, he

    informed his colleagues about the

    incident. Out of, maybe youthful

    exuberance, the officer in charge,

    Lieutenant Gyasi, who had just been

    commissioned into the Armed Forces,

    then ordered his colleagues to go into

    town and attempt to retrieve the mobile

    phone. These are the facts! So, when the

    troops arrived in town, they took the law

    into their hands and beat up anybody who

    came into sight. That was what actually

    happened.

    Mr Speaker, now what comes to the

    fore is the crime rate in our country. So,

    at the time of the incident, it was very

    clear that mobile phone snatching and

    armed-robbery incidents had become

    rampant in Wa and its environs, and we

    spoke to the police about it.

    Mr Speaker, as a Committee, it is part

    of our responsibility, and we have made

    the recommendation that Government

    takes the initiative to ensure that the

    security situation within Wa and its

    environs is improved.

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    Mr Speaker, I am saying this against

    the backdrop that a few days ago, a

    lawyer from that part of the country who

    was travelling home from Accra was

    murdered in cold blood in between

    Bamboi and Bole. So, what it means is

    that even after the Committee travelled to

    Wa and made its findings in respect of

    this matter, the security situation in the

    country, particularly in the Upper West

    Region is still tensed and something

    urgent ought to be done to ensure that the

    security situation in Wa is improved.

    Mr Speaker, the brutalities that were

    meted out to the citizens of Wa were very

    harrowing, and when your Committee

    interrogated some of the victims, it was

    very shocking.

    Mr Speaker, I refer the House to page

    6 of the Report, where one of the victims,

    a teacher by profession called Regan

    Salifu was standing in front of his shop

    when the rampaging soldiers approached.

    In fact, he was holding his baby but that

    did not deter the soldiers; they took the

    law into their own hands, ordered that the

    baby be given to a police woman. Once

    the baby was handed over to her, they

    beat the teacher up to a pulp.

    Mr Speaker, this can be found on page

    6 of the Report and I would just want to

    read line 3, which contains what Regan

    Salifu had to say:

    “Out of curiosity he went out of the shop to ascertain what was happening. As soon as he came out of the shop, three soldiers approached him and ordered him to lie on the floor. He was holding his nine-month-old baby so the soldiers asked that he gives the baby to a police woman who was standing nearby, close to the Sonzele Rural Bank. When he tried to resist, he was hit hard with a stick. That was when he gave the baby to the police woman. He laid on the ground and the soldiers picked up a ‘veronica bucket' filled with water and poured it on him while he rolled on the wet floor.”

    Mr Speaker, the Upper West Regional

    Coordinating Council Public Relations Officer (PRO) by name Cletus Awuni was also beaten to a pulp. His only crime was that when he saw the soldiers on a rampage beating people without any provocation, he tried to intervene and asked that they refrain from such conduct. He also became a victim; he was beaten, wounded and hopitalised.

    Mr Speaker, all these people I have

    mentioned had to be hospitalised. But the

    point needs to be made that we are in a

    democracy and gone are the days when

    soldiers could act with impunity. So, this

    House must speak with one voice that

    they are maintained by our taxes,

    therefore, they must treat civilians with

    outmost respect. The rule of law must be

    applied at all times.

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    Mr Speaker, the recommendations are

    very clear. The Military High Command

    definitely deserves some commendation.

    When the incident happened, the military

    High Command dispatched a high-

    powered delegation to Wa led by the

    Chief of Army Staff, and when they did

    their own investigations, they came to the

    conclusion that their men were at fault.

    So, in order to demonstrate that they were

    unhappy with what their men did, they

    summarily tried them, found them

    culpable and meted out punishment.

    Mr Speaker, the Report captures the

    punishment: Staff Seargent Sarpong Adu

    was reduced in rank to Corporal;

    Corporal Torkuebu Obed was reduced in

    rank to Private; then the rest of them who

    were private soldiers and could not have

    been reduced in rank were detained in

    custody. Some were detained for 14 days

    and others, 30 days. So, they actually took

    steps to mete out punishment.

    Mr Speaker, however, what your

    Committee is saying is that the

    punishment they meted out is not enough.

    The pain that was inflicted on the victims

    requires that the State takes steps —
    Mr Speaker 1:52 p.m.
    Hon Member, my
    attention has been drawn to the time. In
    view of the nature of the Business of the
    House, I would have to direct that we
    hold proceedings beyond the normal
    stipulated time.
    You may go on now.
    Mr Agalga 2 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the point I
    am making is that, the fact that the
    soldiers involved have been punished is
    not sufficient. The Committee is of the
    firm belief and view that the victims of
    the military brutality be compensated by
    the State. This is important because the
    victims suffered various degrees of
    injuries and must have spent their own
    money to settle their medical bills.

    Mr Speaker, in fact, when we arrived in Wa, it was clear that the Hon Minister for Defence did his part by paying the initial medical bills of the victims. However, that was not enough, so the Committee Members had to make contributions from our own resources to support some of the victims. So, Mr Speaker, if your Committee took these initiatives to at least, assuage the pain that the victims went through, it is important that the State does something and very promptly.

    On that note, Mr Speaker, I would like

    to conclude by stating that this investigative Report should serve as an eye-opener. The Military High Command and the Ministry of Defence must take steps to ensure that civil military relations in our country are improved; that is the only way we can sustain our democratic experiment.

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    Mr Speaker, I thank you for the

    opportunity.
    Mr Cletus Apul Avoka (NDC - Zebilla) 2:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I thank you for
    giving me the opportunity to make some
    few remarks following the presentation of
    the Report of the Committee on Defence
    and Interior, presented by the Hon Vice
    Chairman of the Committee.
    Mr Speaker, I am an Hon Member of
    this august Committee and part of the
    delegation that went to Wa for this
    investigation. So, I wish to thank you, Mr
    Speaker, for facilitating our trip to Wa,
    and for supporting us to be there for two
    or three days, and it is with the help of the
    Regional Coordinating Council (RCC) of
    the Upper West Regional Administration
    that we did this work.
    Mr Speaker, what are the facts of this
    matter? It is important that Hon Members
    who are not Members of the Committee
    on Defence and Interior should be able to
    know the basic facts of this matter.
    Mr Speaker, there is now established
    for the first time, the 10 Mechanised
    Battalion, which is a military detachment
    in Wa in the Upper West Region. Why
    were they established there? They were
    sent there about a year ago because of the
    jihadist and the extremist threats from the
    sahelian countries, particularly, Burkina
    Faso because the Upper West Region
    shares a border with Burkina Faso. As
    Ghana government wanted to maintain
    the integrity of this country, it moved a
    battalion to Wa called 10 Mechanised
    Battalion for the purpose of protecting us.
    The fact is that a day before the 1st of
    July, two soldiers of the 10 Mechanised
    Battalion went to town to have lunch. On
    their way back, they boarded a campboo,
    those lorries they call “John Mahama can do”. They were in the car going back to the barracks and one of them had a call
    from his mother and was talking to her.
    While talking, two people approached on
    a motor bike and snatched the phone from
    this soldier. When the soldiers wanted to
    challenge them, the rider pulled a knife,
    and said that if the soldiers joked, they
    would stab them. So, the campboo rider
    sped off with the soldier and they went to
    the barracks. The following day, about 50
    to 80 soldiers were mobilised to go back
    to Wa township to search for the two
    people who snatched their phones. They
    did not report the case to the police or to
    anybody. They just told their immediate
    commander because the Commander for
    that area had travelled to Accra so there
    was a young lieutenant who was in charge
    of them. They told him, and the 50 to 80
    soldiers marched into Wa township to
    look for these two civilians and retrieve
    the phone.
    What happened when they got to Wa
    township? They started brutalising
    civilians indiscriminately. They pulled
    people out from their shops and beat
    them. They beat passersby and drivers - both men and women. People were made
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    to roll on the ground and so on until

    people complained here and there and

    about an hour or two later, their

    commander reached out to them in town

    and said they should come back, and they

    went back. This is the background. These

    are the main facts from which I want to

    make some few observations.

    First and foremost, as I said earlier,

    this is the first time that we have a

    detachment of army in Wa and the

    purpose was to protect the citizens against

    terrorists, jihadists, extremists, et cetera.

    The purpose is not to go and brutalise

    civilians. I thought that if that incident

    took place, the first thing the soldiers had

    to do was to report to the Police, who are

    trained to investigate and identify

    criminals and apprehend them or even

    report to their senior officers and then

    they would have a way to reach out to

    their counterparts in other services so that

    they could retrieve the phones, if any.

    They did not do that. As my Hon

    Colleagues have said, they decided to go

    to town and beat people and take the law

    into their own hands, which was very

    unfortunate.

    Mr Speaker, it is important to note the

    date of this incident. It was on the 1st of

    July, 2021. My worry is: do the soldiers

    know the importance and significance of

    the 1st of July in the political history of

    this country? That it was a day that we

    had, not just our independence but a

    Republican status. Do they also know that

    it was a day that we had our sovereignty

    from our colonial masters and that it is a

    sovereign day for us; a day when the

    Ghanaian personality is personified? If

    they were trained to understand this, they

    would not use the 1st of July to go to town

    and attack civilians; they would not do

    that. That is the most unfortunate part of

    it. So, I think that one aspect of the

    training of these young officers and

    recruits should not just be the military

    training and drills but civil education,

    political education, and civilian-military

    relationships. That is very important.

    Mr Speaker, another very important

    observation is that on that day, there were

    policemen and policewomen in Wa but

    they stood aloof. They did not ask the

    soldiers what they were doing or indicate

    that they were there to keep law and

    order. When we asked the Police why

    they did that, they said they wanted to

    avoid a head on collision between the

    Police and the Military; that should they

    make the mistake and intervene they

    would rather be attacked by the Military

    and they wanted to avoid that

    confrontation.

    What does this tell us? It tells us that

    we do not have a mutual goodwill and

    relationship between the Military and the

    Police, which is a very dangerous

    situation for us. Those who are to take

    care of our lives and protect our country

    do not co-exist. Mutual suspicion and

    disrespect between the Police and the

    Military - So, Mr Speaker, what is our fate? I think it is important that with this

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    background, you use your good Office to

    appeal to the military high command and

    the police high command so that they see

    how they can reconcile their differences,

    if any at all, to see how they can manage

    their egos and work as a team for the

    betterment of this country. This turf war

    between the Military and the Police

    would not help us. It is very important

    because if the Police had inquired what

    the soldiers were doing and had informed

    them that what they were doing was not

    good, and if they had even persuaded

    them to go back and address the issue, the

    excesses would not have been committed.

    However, they said that they would

    not do it because it would lead to a

    different story. So, I think that there must

    be co-existence between the Military and

    the Police and we must do so sooner than

    later.

    Mr Speaker, I think that the Military

    has a case to answer. As I said earlier, we

    know why they were sent there and they

    defeated that purpose. How can you beat

    people to retrieve a phone? Just one

    phone and between 100 and 200 people

    suffered for that; extreme excesses, and

    that is very unfortunate in this modern

    era.

    So, I want us to take this Report very

    seriously and then try to see how we can

    bring the two institutions together and try

    and educate the security personnel in the

    country. For some time now, Police

    brutalities on civilians have been

    recuring; Military excesses and

    brutalities are now coming to the fore.

    The respect - We all know that the Ghana Army and the Police have won

    international accolades for this country.

    They have gone for peace-keeping

    outside this country, and have won a lot

    of respect for this country; they are very

    professional, particularly the Military, so

    why are they doing this in their own

    country? They behave very well outside

    their country, but in their own country,

    their behaviour is different. The Military

    is taking the respect that we have given

    them for granted. It is high time we told

    them that nobody is above the law. We

    have a role to play as civilians, and they

    as security men, and therefore, we should

    all come together to develop this country.

    Mr Speaker, in conclusion, I would

    want to observe that as the Hon Ranking

    Member, Mr Agalga said, the Military

    acted timeously, the Hon Minister for

    Defence was there and they tried to

    broker the peace. We must also thank the

    overlord of Wa, Wa Naa, Naa Fuseini

    Seidu Pelpuo IV. He received us very

    well, and he controlled his people so that

    there would not be any retaliation. If it

    were another place, by the time you

    know, the youth would have taken to the

    streets and that would have been very

    unfortunate, but the chief was able to

    contain the situation, and there was no

    escalation of violence in Wa. We should

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    commend the Paramount Chief of the Wa

    Traditional Area, the Military and the

    Hon Minister for Defence.

    Mr Speaker, finally, with the greatest

    of respect to the Leadership of this House,

    this Report has become more or less stale.

    For the past three to five months, I have

    been following Leadership to take the

    Report. If we had taken it at the time that

    the matters were still fresh in people's minds, we would have known how to

    address it. Now, many Hon Members

    sitting here do not know what to say. It is

    those of us who went for this exercise

    who are conversant with the facts now.

    The Report had delayed for about six

    months or more when we have gone and

    returned. What is the point in spending so

    much money, time and energy to travel to

    Wa and come back only for the Report to

    gather dust in shelves? There are other

    reports that are outstanding. I think that

    we should resolve that when a Report is

    tabled and brought back, we should take

    it timeously so that we can have its effect.

    Mr Speaker, on that note, I thank you

    and the House for this opportunity, and I

    pray that the Military would continue the

    good work it does, and not do anything

    that would lead to their disrespect or

    make Ghanaians have a second thought

    about them.

    Mr Speaker, I thank you very much.
    Mr Samuel Atta Akyea (NPP - Abuakwa South) 2:12 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am glad
    that this Side of the House would have a
    bite at the cherry. Yesterday, I was very
    elated when, at your behest,
    constitutionalism and the rule of law were
    placed on the front burner. Yesterday was
    a very interesting day for this House
    because we projected the rule of law, and
    it is in this context that I would say a few
    words concerning what has happened,
    which is the incident of the military
    brutality on civilians in Wa.
    Mr Speaker, what is a very sore point
    for me was the basis of the brutalities.
    When I looked at it, I was saddened. With
    your kind permission, I would want to
    just touch on that:
    “A referral was made to the
    Committee on Defence and
    Interior by the First Deputy
    Speaker, Hon Joseph Osei-
    Owusu, to undertake an
    investigation into the military-
    civil unrest in which soldiers were
    seen in a viral video beating up
    people in Wa in the Upper West
    Region over a missing phone”.
    Mr Speaker, I was scandalised to know
    that the basis for soldiers brutalising
    civilians was on just some
    inconsequential loss of a phone. I thought
    the nation had travelled a sub- distance of
    decency more than what has been
    reported. Soldiers are trained for external
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    security purposes, and we should

    emphasise that. We do not invest in

    soldiers so that they would beat the

    civilians up. In fact, they ward off

    external attacks so in the event of some

    wayward people trying to disturb the

    sovereignty and security of this nation,

    then we deploy soldiers so they face the

    external aggression. When soldiers set

    their role upside down, and then, with all

    the training that they have had, they begin

    to beat up civilians, it leaves much to be

    desired. I think this Report should go

    down as one of the important things that

    we would want to use to correct the

    situation.

    I thought when it comes to the internal

    affairs of a nation, the individuals who

    have been trained to handle such crisis all

    the time are the Police. They have been

    trained in crowd control, they understand

    how to fire into the air, and also use

    rubber bullets and teargases. Hence, I do

    not understand why, for whatever reason,

    the soldiers ignored the internal

    arrangements of the police and decide to

    beat up civilians.

    Mr Speaker, I think Vladimir Lenin

    described a parliament as a talking shop.

    For once, this august House should never

    be seen as a talking shop. We should

    follow through with the disciplinary

    measures that would be meted out to

    these wayward soldiers. This august

    House should never rest until we see

    punishment visited upon these wayward

    soldiers. That would give us that good

    reason that in this country, when people

    go wayward for whatever reason, they are

    disciplined. Sometimes, the promotion of

    lawlessness finds space in the fact that the

    people who are lawless go scot free. This

    important Report of your Committee is

    not for an entertainment value. It is

    supposed to be followed through until we

    see that those who were wayward are

    punished. In fact, it is in that that people

    of like mind would refrain from ever

    attacking civilians.

    Mr Speaker, I thank you for giving me

    the opportunity to say a few words. We

    would want to see people punished so that

    impunity would stop in this country and

    the rule of law would be upheld.

    I am grateful for what you did yesterday because it was an opportunity for Ghanaians to see that without constitutionalism and the rule of law, and the clear understanding of the departments of Government, the Executive, the Judiciary and the Legislature do not have any future as a people.

    I am grateful to you for that opportunity.
    Dr Abdul-Rashid H. Palpuo (NDC — Wa Central) 2:22 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, thank you, for the opportunity to make an observation on the Report presented to us on the brutalities that occurred in my constituency, Wa Central, after some military men, for reasons that are unacceptable, moved into town and brutalised the people.
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    Mr Speaker, to start with, I would want

    to thank the Committee for this extensive

    work done. About 20 witnesses and about

    11 stakeholders were contacted in the

    attempt to come up with this Report, and

    so I am very grateful for the extensive

    work that has gone into it. I would also

    want to thank you for accepting to direct

    that this matter be investigated and a

    Report be brought to the House. This tells

    us that we have moved away from the

    situation where the Military can take the

    law into their own hands and brutalise

    individuals in a country where democracy

    is the pronounced system of

    administration.

    Mr Speaker, the Military, as we all

    know, protects the Constitution and the

    sovereignty of Ghana. It is not an interior

    functional institution, and every single

    time it moves away from its core function

    into the lives of civilians, it side-steps its

    core duty to the State, and what happened

    is a direct reflection of its failure.

    Mr Speaker, since the day the Military

    moved into this Chamber, when it was

    unacceptable for them to do so, they have

    done a number of other things for which

    we should be worried. This Report should

    send a signal to the Military that more and

    more, they are overstepping their bounds.

    Like the penultimate Hon Member

    who just spoke said, for 30 years or so, we

    have moved away from the military

    taking over the reins of power and

    brutalising individuals for reasons that

    could be resolved through civilian

    established rules, regulations and legal

    systems.

    Mr Speaker, the effects of the military

    intervention or brutality in the Wa

    township was felt throughout the country.

    The pain was reflected in the minds and

    thinking of many Ghanaians. Individuals

    who did nothing wrong were stopped by

    the wayside, made to crawl on the bare

    grounds, thrown into gutters, kicked and

    beaten up. This hit the conscience of

    Ghanaians. When I heard it, I called the

    Hon Regional Minister to find out and

    thankfully, it was captured in the Report.

    He said he did not know anything about

    it, and I was very much alarmed. I called

    the Commanding Officer and he also said

    he did not know about it.

    Mr Speaker, it tells us about the

    impunity that pervaded the military

    establishment in the town. On page 13 of

    the Report, it is stated that one Lt. Gyasie,

    the Commanding Officer who authorised

    the brutalities, was inexperienced and

    was newly recruited into the Military.

    Hence, he may have acted with his

    “inexperience”.

    Mr Speaker, the fact is that the military

    training we have is supposed to build a

    person from an everyday civilian life into

    a military life that is disciplined. It is a

    definition of a whole life change in the

    person so it cannot be an excuse that

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    because of the inexperience of the officer,

    or because he is newly recruited, he could

    do what he did. I am happy that the Hon

    Ranking Member of the Committee has

    said that the punishment is not enough,

    and the Committee has asked for more for

    74 of the soldiers who have been given

    various terms of punishments such as

    suspension for a number of days.

    Mr Speaker, we thank God that during

    the investigation, we had all the victims

    come out to speak their minds fearlessly

    and committed in telling the truth. There

    was no fear or people intimidated by the

    fact they were talking about the Military

    so they had to keep quiet. I am

    particularly impressed with the first

    witness who was so confident. He told the

    story of how he was stopped because he

    was taking a picture of what was

    happening; how he was brutalised,

    kicked, and beaten until he was oozing

    with blood, and was asked to delete the

    record of everything he had taken. He

    insisted he would not take the pictures off

    the mobile phone and that he had suffered

    enough beatings to delete what he took.

    He said that it was unacceptable to him so

    he refused to delete those recordings.

    Mr Speaker, later, we saw the effects

    of what happened throughout the country.

    That person is a hero in the enterprise. He

    insisted that he would not delete it,

    brought it to the knowledge of the people,

    and today, we can talk about exactly what

    happened to the people of Wa. I

    commend him for being that steadfast and

    committed in doing exactly what he did

    to bring it to the notice of Ghanaians, and

    for us to reprimand the military action

    against these innocent people. I commend

    all the people who suffered and who

    brought their story to our attention. Each

    one of them is a hero in his or her own

    right.

    Mr Speaker, I would also follow up

    with the recommendations by the

    Committee that these people who were

    brutalised and who suffered pain must be

    compensated for what happened to them.

    We need to do something so impressive

    in the minds of people that in the end, no

    military man can do what they did. It has

    to be a pain to them for what they did so

    that they can reflect on it and it would be

    a guide to them that they cannot continue

    to take the laws of the land into their own

    hands and misbehave the way they did.

    Mr Speaker, I would want to thank you

    for the opportunity given me to contribute

    to this Motion, and I thank the Committee

    as well for bringing out these issues to us.

    I also agree with the Hon Member for

    Zebilla, Mr Avoka, that we had been

    waiting for this Report for a very long

    time. I have been questioned many times

    over by my constituents on exactly when

    this Report would come out. Thankfully,

    today, it is out. It is important that in the

    future, we are more expeditious in

    presenting such Reports to the House.
    Mr Speaker 2:22 p.m.
    Hon Members, we still
    have two more Motions for today. This is
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    a very important Motion we are debating.

    I may have to suspend the House for some

    15 minutes, and then come back to

    continue because I have a few words to

    add to what is happening. I would

    suspend the House for 15 minutes only.

    The Sitting of the House is

    accordingly suspended.

    2.30 p.m. - Sitting suspended.

    2.46 p.m - Sitting resumed
    Mr Speaker 2:22 p.m.
    Hon Members, we
    would resume debates on Motion
    numbered 9, so those who would want to
    contribute — Yes, Hon Laadi Ayii Ayamba?
    Ms Laadi Ayii Ayamba (NDC - Pusiga) 2:56 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, thank you for the
    opportunity to comment on the Motion
    that has been made on the issue of
    military brutalities in the Upper West
    Region, specifically, Wa.
    Mr Speaker, we appreciate the fact that
    the military has been put there in order to
    help protect the country and for that
    matter, its people and we appreciate that.
    At least if for nothing at all, we know that
    their activities are very important and
    under no circumstances would any of us
    underrate what they are supposed to do.
    This notwithstanding, it is quite
    interesting when we look at the Report
    carefully. In the first place, one would
    simply ask how they go on rampage,
    running around, beating anybody at all,
    and demanding for a phone that they said
    was snatched from them by persons who
    were on a “Camboo”— If we are not careful, we may veer into saying things or
    feeling otherwise about certain
    individuals.
    Mr Speaker, just as one of the Hon
    Members who contributed early on
    stated, the fact is that at least, even if a
    civilian is recruited into military training
    today, they would be trained to leave one
    or two things; that is, the characteristics
    of a civilian before joining the Army. So,
    there is no point in saying that they are
    new or old.
    Mr Speaker, it is simply unacceptable
    and unfair. Looking at the video that was
    on all social media platforms at the time,
    one would wonder if these were the same
    people that some of us had actually
    wanted to join in those days because of
    their discipline and the fact that they were
    people who really understood, and would
    always be cautious in doing anything that
    would mar their reputation. But what did
    we see?
    Mr Speaker, my pain is the fact that
    they dare to tell a man holding his child
    of about nine months old to handover the
    child to a policewoman who, probably,
    was on duty at a bank in order that they
    could beat him. Can we imagine what
    would happen to the child and the man in
    the future? There is no way that little
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    child, although nine months old, would

    not be told of what happened to the father

    when he or she was nine months old. That

    child would be told and what would be

    the perception of that child with regard to

    how he or she would feel and look at the

    military? The child would always see

    them as a ‘no-no' category of people, and this is unfortunate.

    Mr Speaker, the officer from the

    Coordinating Council who was supposed

    to support them, simply asked why they

    were doing that and cautioned them not to

    continue, then they beat him up

    mercilessly. As at the time, I learnt that an

    individual got a fractured leg; if that is

    true, then that man would be deformed

    forever because there is no way one

    would have a fracture and ever expect

    their balance to be as normal as it used to

    be. So, what message does this send?

    Mr Speaker, it is simply an issue that

    needs to be dealt with seriously to the

    core. Reading from the Report and as the

    Hon Ranking Member said, I appreciate

    that certain measures have been taken but

    they are not satisfactory enough.

    Just as I have elaborated, would the

    one with the fractured leg ever have his

    leg back to perfection as the person who

    was detained would come out and

    continue his work after the 30 days or the

    3 months or the two weeks? Let us look

    at that; those whose ranks have been

    reduced, they are going to remain there

    and work, after all, they did all the things

    that were unacceptable.

    Mr Speaker, there is a Commanding

    Officer who asked them to actually

    ensure that they retrieve the phone.

    Whom were they going to retrieve the

    phone from? How does an officer worth

    his salt, excuse my language, tell officers

    to go and retrieve a phone that had been

    snatched?

    Thinking of the whole thing, one does

    not even know what to say. Sometimes,

    people would want to come out to say, we

    “temper justice with mercy”, which is not fair and does not help us.

    Mr Speaker, how do we blame the

    Police for not intervening? When I heard

    that I was very sad because I have heard

    and seen that when it comes to the Police

    and the Military, the Police are regarded

    ‘nobodies'; like they are nothing, and they took a good decision by not

    intervening. This is because if they did,

    they would have been disgraced; they

    would have had issues and that would

    have been very bad.

    Mr Speaker, the fact is that the law has

    been taken into the hands of these

    military men and they need to be dealt

    with accordingly because nobody is

    above the law.

    I agree with my Hon Colleagues that

    stringent measures should be taken

    against these officers. Also, there should

    be some kind of discussions to unite the

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    Military and the Police, such that when

    the Military has issues, the Police are

    always there to ensure peace and to

    protect lives and property, and that is why

    they are within the communities. This is

    because they have been given specific

    training to handle civilians,

    notwithstanding the fact that something

    could have gone wrong at one point or the

    other, because there is no perfect human

    institution. So they should be aware of

    this, agree and understand that when they

    have issues, they should report to the

    Police and they would handle it.

    Mr Speaker, in order not to take so

    much time, I would just want to say that

    use your good office to ensure that the

    right thing is done.
    Mr Speaker 2:56 a.m.
    Hon Members, I think
    that I would allow only one last person.
    Is that the Hon Regional Minister?
    Yes?
    Mr Kwabena Okyere Darko-
    Mensah (NPP - Takoradi): Mr Speaker, thank you for this great opportunity to
    add my voice.
    If one considers the whole story, he or
    she would come to realise one thing:
    education. In fact, looking at the
    recommendations, on the last paragraph,
    what I see here is that ‘steps be taken by the Military High Command and the
    Ministry of Defence to foster good
    civilian military relations in communities
    where new military units have been
    established in the country as a whole'.
    Mr Speaker, I believe that this
    recommendation actually falls short of
    what would prevent a re-occurrence of
    this incident in the future. I believe that it
    should be part of the military training. In
    fact, if one looks at the current intake into
    the military programmes, they are
    basically Senior High School (SHS)
    graduates. These are people who are
    literate; these are people who have been
    educated and trained in making sure that
    we could have a balance between civilian
    and military relationship. If it is a matter
    of just posting people to new
    communities, what happens if they are
    transferred? What happens if they have
    not been trained properly to appreciate
    their role as protectors of the State?
    Mr Speaker, the initial incident that
    happened to the military personnel in
    ‘mufti' that had gone to town and had been robbed, under normal circum-
    stances, this issue should have been
    reported to the Police to investigate and
    take on the culprit. Unfortunately, it is
    becoming more like a ‘macho' issue where some people feel that because they
    have undertaken rigorous training, maybe
    in Shai Hills and some other places, they
    could use their ‘machoism' to brutalise the ordinary person. I believe that the
    only way out of its reoccurrence is to
    ensure we train and inculcate in them that
    the military is not there to brutalise and
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    bully civilians, rather, they are there to

    protect the ordinary people.

    Mr Speaker, this is not the first time

    this has happened. Recently, in my own

    constituency, some military men came for

    a wedding; and in the evening, they went

    to town and saw somebody making a call

    in his car. They picked the person and

    brutalised him simply because they

    thought they had gotten some new powers

    since they had been trained as new

    military personnel. They did not come

    from my constituency but all the way

    from Accra to accompany their friend to

    have a wedding.

    So, I believe that the re-occurrence of

    this all over the country clearly indicates

    that there is a gap in the training that we

    are giving to our young men and women

    in the military at their various stations. I

    believe that, that should be one of the

    recommendations that we need to send to

    the Military High Command so that their

    training structure - the content of programme they run for this young men

    and women is done in such a way that

    they respect the civilian; after all,

    everybody would go on retirement in

    their various areas of profession. In fact,

    if what they are doing continues, it means

    that if one brutalises a teacher, the next

    day, the teacher should go to town and

    start canning everybody. I believe it is

    high time we changed that culture

    through training and ensure that our

    young men and women who go to the

    military become more civilised in a lot of

    these dealings with the public Mr

    Speaker, with these few words, I would

    like to thank you for the opportunity.
    Mr Speaker 2:56 a.m.
    It seems the mood is to
    continue with the matter since a number
    of Hon Members are still on their feet.
    Leadership, what do you say? Do we take
    more or we move on?
    Mr Mohammed-Mubarak Muntaka 2:56 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, obviously, we cannot
    continue endlessly, but seeing my Hon
    Colleague who comes from that area in
    Wa West, especially with the Wechiau — I think it would be fair for him to be heard
    and we would then come to Leadership, if
    you do not mind.
    Mr Speaker 2:56 a.m.
    Is it the case that
    Leadership would want to have a bite?
    Mr Annoh-Dompreh 2:56 a.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    since we have planned to have a meeting
    with you, which you have rightly directed
    that you would give would be there —
    Mr Speaker 2:56 a.m.
    Did we plan to have a
    meeting today?
    Mr Annoh-Dompreh 2:56 a.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    yes, after adjournment.
    Mr Speaker 2:56 a.m.
    I thought it is
    tomorrow? Today is 1st June and our
    planned meeting is tomorrow, 2nd June — that Leadership would be having a
    meeting, and not today. However, I have
    scheduled to receive the family of the
    Late Mr John Akparibo Ndebugri; they
    are officially coming to inform us and I
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    have communicated that to Leaders to

    come and assist me.

    So, let us take that into consideration.

    We have some few minutes for other

    Motions and then we would continue

    tomorrow.
    Mr Annoh-Dompreh 2:56 a.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    with respect, I think I am in agreement.
    As you please. We would push the
    scheduled meeting to Thursday, and
    now, maybe, we could conclude with — I think we have had enough. So, I think
    we should conclude on that and take one
    of the Private Members Motions that our
    Hon Colleagues are so eager to —
    Mr Speaker 2:56 a.m.
    You are wasting too
    much time on this; I would give the
    opportunity to the Hon Member for Wa
    West. He should take the concerns on
    board and make sure that the
    contribution is brief and then we would
    come to Leadership for anyone who
    would want to make a contribution to do
    so and I would make my comments and
    directives.
    Yes, Hon Member for Wa West?
    Mr Peter Lanchene Toobu (NDC - Wa West) 3:06 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am so grateful
    for the opportunity. I know it has been a
    very tough decision for you to take and I
    would also like to thank the Leadership
    for giving me the opportunity to make a
    contribution to this very important
    Investigative Report of the Committee
    on Defence and Interior on the Incident
    of the Military Brutalities in Wa.
    Mr Speaker, on the very day in
    question; on the 1st of July, when we saw
    the video on social media, a lot of us did
    not believe that it was from Ghana.
    Some of us probably thought it was from
    Mali or Burkina Faso, only to realise that
    it was not just Ghana but it happened
    right in the house where I come from;
    Wa Central.
    Mr Speaker, considering what
    happened in Wa, that is exactly what
    happens when one finds soldiers
    attempting to enforce the law. Soldiers
    are trained to protect and defend the
    sovereignty of the State and not for law
    enforcement.
    On the very day in question, when the
    military man lost his phone, he went
    back to the barracks and informed his
    colleagues, Lieutenant Gyasi inspired
    them onto the streets, but the Lieutenant
    Colonel who is the Commanding Officer
    had then travelled to Accra for a course.
    Mr Speaker, from a Lieutenant
    Colonel to a Lieutenant, the gap is so
    huge that immediately we detected the
    challenge of command and control in the
    absence of a Lieutenant Colonel, the
    most appropriate person to act as the
    officer in-charge should be at least, a
    Major, not a Lieutenant and these were
    two Lieutenants who were mates and
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    one felt a bit superior but he was not the

    one who asked to be in-charge.

    Mr Speaker, when the young men

    went to town, these were fresh recruits

    who had just graduated and were posted

    to Wa. They were still being bonded and

    trained to be deployed; they had never

    been deployed before and they went to

    town and did what was unthinkable.

    Mr Speaker, Lieutenant Kwasi

    Gyasie; the Commanding Officer who is

    a professional soldier by all standards,

    retuned from Accra and did what

    soldiers do best. All the officers who had

    gone to town were put on a 14-day

    detention. The duty Sergeant, a Staff

    Sergeant was reduced in rank to a

    Corporal, the Guard Commander who

    was a Corporal was reduced to a Private

    Soldier and the Sentry Officer was also

    reduced from Lance Corporal to a

    Private Soldier. That is what soldiers

    know doing best; speedy action of a

    Commander.

    Mr Speaker, what hurts most is the

    story of Wechiau. Abdulai Ahmed, a

    washing bay owner and young man who

    completed school and decided that

    because there is no job in the system, he

    would establish a washing bay. Soldiers

    go there all the time to wash their vehicles

    and his attendants told him that, normally,

    the soldiers do not pay. He went to the

    washing bay one day, and the soldiers

    came to wash their vehicle and he

    confronted them saying, ‘my brothers, this is a government vehicle.' I am young man without a job. You are already

    working and you have a salary. Why do

    you come to wash your cars here and fail

    to support me? Can you pay something

    small? The soldiers told him that they

    were only acting on orders, he should

    wait and let them call their commander.

    They called the detachment commander

    at Wichau, and the Commander later told

    him to wash the car. In the process of

    washing the car, they ordered him to stop

    and they drove the car back to the

    barracks. They came back and ordered

    him into the car, sent him to the military

    barracks and beat him into a pulp. He was

    made to roll on the ground, he vomited

    and they forced him to use his hand to

    collect the vomit.

    Mr Speaker, that was the only day I

    saw my Hon Chairman, Mr Kennedy

    Agyapong hit the table on hearing the

    story and stood up and said this cannot

    happen in Ghana. It was quite touchy.

    That is why I support the Report strongly,

    and very particularly, the recommend-

    dations that the Government should be

    speedy with the compensation package,

    and let us ensure that the military and the

    police relationship is strengthened. If any

    soldier is involved in a case, he or she

    should report to the police. The Police are

    specialised in criminal investigation. If,

    there is an issue with probably, al-Qaeda

    or Boko Haram attempt to come to

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    Ghana, we would call on the military to

    dispel or stop them from getting into

    Ghana.

    Mr Speaker, it is on this note that I

    want to conclude by encouraging all of us

    to support the Defence and Interior

    Committee. This Report was brought in

    in many days ago, and we expected that

    this Report should have been taken long

    ago and I am sure by now, the

    compensation package that is

    recommended would have been paid to

    all these victims. It is better late than

    never. It has come, and we pray that we

    support this and ensure that the

    recommendations are enforced, the

    Military remains professional. And the

    cooperation between the military and the

    civilians is enhanced to the extent that

    our democracy could be defended and

    protected at all time.

    Mr Speaker, with these few words,

    thank you the opportunity to contribute to

    support the Report.
    Mr Speaker 3:16 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Minority
    Chief Whip?
    Minority Chief Whip (Alhaji
    Mohammed-Mubarak Muntaka): Mr
    Speaker, thank you.
    Mr Speaker, I equally rise to speak to
    the Report of the Committee on Defence
    and Interior. Without any attempt to
    repeat any of the things that have already
    been said and to go straight to the few
    salient issues that I think have not been
    dealt with. I would touch on what my Hon
    Colleague just commented on, which is
    the matter of the washing bay owner,
    Abdulai Ahmed.
    Mr Speaker, we would be doing
    ourselves the greatest injustice if we
    allow the Commanding Officer at
    Wichau and his men to go unpunished.
    That would be the greatest injustice we
    would be doing to ourselves, and not to
    Abdulai Ahmed but to ourselves. You
    cannot under any circumstances imagine
    even if you are President of Ghana that
    any ordinary private citizen of Ghana has
    his property and because you are the
    President of Ghana, you can walk there
    and take anything for free. That cannot be
    assumed by anybody, let alone the
    military officers.
    Mr Speaker, we know that the Military
    is one of our most disciplined institutions
    up to date. Yes, we have the biggest
    challenge in almost all our institutions but
    our last hope is still the Military. So, to
    have this kind of characters within the
    military is something that not only we,
    but even the military, should help the
    State to fish them out and be able to deal
    with them.
    Mr Speaker, I am not calling for the
    Military to take action. Everywhere
    around the world, there are things that
    Military do within their establishment to
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    punish their officers for the wrong doing

    that they have done, but that does not

    exonerate them from prosecution by the

    State. I am just calling for two things:

    one, the Colonel Gyasie, who is the

    Commanding Officer who authorised

    these men to go to town, must be

    prosecuted. My plea is that the House

    should write officially to Attorney-

    General to prosecute him. It is the only

    way this madness would stop because the

    Military we know is full of men and

    women who are very disciplined.

    Mr Speaker, you saw what happened

    in Ejura where in broad daylight, a

    military officer would just go down, aim

    and fire. If we do not begin to prosecute

    people to know that the uniform that they

    are wearing, whether it is the police,

    custom or any other security, they are

    doing it on our behalf. Therefore, they

    cannot use that uniform to do the wrong

    things and say that because we are

    military officers, the actions within the

    military or the police suffice.

    Mr Speaker, you would not be

    surprised that they had the guts to enter

    this Chamber and nothing had happened;

    look at the killings in Ejura. and nothing

    has happened. Even when they killed

    seven young men in Asawase, and the

    Report established beyond reasonable

    doubt that these were not armed robbers

    and compensations were paid, the officers

    continued to thrive in the police

    administration. They have not been fished

    out. Tomorrow, they would repeat it.

    However, if they are prosecuted, others

    would learn the lesson that when they do

    it, it would not just end with the

    punishment within the police or military

    administration, it would move further for

    them to be brought before our law where

    they would fully be forced to account for

    their actions.

    Mr Speaker, that is what I would be

    calling for. So, the Committee's Report which is just calling on the Military to

    make sure they investigate and punish the

    perpetrators of the Wichau incident is not

    enough. We should get them prosecuted,

    and I would also say that Colonel Gyasie

    should be prosecuted for the action. Let

    us not take that flimsy excuse that he is

    just a newly commissioned officer. At the

    military school, he was taught all those

    things and one of the things that they

    teach, because I have made an attempt to

    join the army before, right from the even

    an attempt to join the army, is to be

    disciplined, and not to take the laws into

    your hands and be reckless.

    Mr Speaker, the danger that we

    foresee in some of these excesses of both

    the Military and the Police and the others

    is what is happening in places like

    Northern Nigeria, Cameroon, Niger, Mali

    and our neighbours, Burkina Faso. Some

    of the officers like my Hon Colleague

    who just spoke, Mr Peter Toobu, would

    tell you. You see the military throwing

    their guns and removing their uniforms

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    and running away because the people are

    so annoyed and the large number of

    persons who are against those institutions

    of military and police are few. How many

    bullets do you have in your gun that when

    you are going to shoot and a mob is going

    after you, you would be able to save

    yourself? You would be forced to run for

    your life. We do not want our country to

    descend to that level because we continue

    to believe that our military is one of the

    most disciplined and professional

    institutions that we cannot tolerate the

    few recalcitrant ones that are there and

    soiling the name of the whole Military

    simply because of either their thoughts or

    political lineages and other things that

    make them do those things and think that

    they can get away with it.

    Mr Speaker, my other worry is the

    Committee's Report. It is my hope that when Committees of this House are

    established, to work such as this one, they

    should make sure that they complete the

    work.

    Mr Speaker, if you consider the

    Report, even though I know they put in a

    lot of effort and energy, they

    recommended that compensations should

    be paid. What prevented the Committee

    from looking for the necessary expertise

    to even determine how much

    compensation should be given to

    everybody so that when we are taking the

    Report, it would come with it that the

    Committee after this thorough

    investigation recommends that some

    amounts should be paid us compensated

    to these individuals because of what they

    have gone through. However, now, if

    they do it this way and say that

    compensations should be paid, if it goes

    to the Attorney-General, it may take

    forever for them to compensate them but

    our Committee could have taken the

    services of other professionals to assist

    them to be able to make those

    determinations so that in the

    recommendation, they would not just say

    pay compensations but they would be

    proposing how much compensation

    should be given based on the gravity of

    the assault or the wounds or the pain that

    those individuals have gone through. It

    should not be left open because what we

    have done, if we are not careful, after

    taking this Report, maybe nothing

    significant would happen for those who

    suffered all these pain.

    Mr Speaker, it is with these that I

    would want to plead with our security

    agencies especially the Police. I do not

    know what the problem is; anytime a

    military or other security service person

    is misbehaving in town, the Police put

    their hands behind them and pretend that

    they do not want to have any

    confrontation. We all know that when it

    comes to the internal maintenance of

    security, it is the preserve of the Police.

    We need to be able to overcome this

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    because in all well-established

    democracies, I have seen military officers

    submitting themselves to the rules by

    handing over themselves to the Police.

    Whether they commit traffic offences or

    other offences, or even if it would mean

    that the Police would arrest them and

    hand them over to the Military High

    Command, they hand over themselves to

    the Police for the necessary things to be

    done.

    Mr Speaker, in a situation where we

    just have the military on rampage,

    sometimes even at the Police Station -. Quite recently, I think about a year ago,

    there was one at the Suame Police Station

    where one could see clearly the video

    going round of a military officer attacking

    a police officer and nothing seems to

    happen. Obviously, when military

    officers are misbehaving in town, even

    senior police officers would put their

    hands at their back and pretend that they

    do not want to have a confrontation but

    we know that is not right.

    So, we need to be able to overcome the challenge where the Police stand aloof when the miscreants within the other security agencies are misbehaving. This is a very good work that our Committee has done, except the few things that I said, that the compensation should have been recommended. I hope that the Rt Hon Speaker would give the necessary consequential directive to enable this Report to not just gather dust or no action to follow. We thank the Rt Hon Speaker

    very much for the opportunity to take this Report even though belated.

    Mr Speaker, this also brings attention

    to the way we organise Business in the

    House. We allow things to stay on the

    Order Paper until they are almost mute

    before we take action on them. With these

    comments, I thank you very much for the

    opportunity to have contributed to the

    debate on the Motion.
    Mr Speaker 3:16 p.m.
    Yes, Majority Chief
    Whip?
    Majority Chief Whip (Mr Frank Annoh-Dompreh) 3:16 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I rise to speak to the Motion. I have listened to my Hon Colleague carefully, taken a cursory look at the Report and looked, in particular detail, at the recommendations put out in the Report. If we put in context the gory nature of the incident and the story as it is being told by the Report and if we adopt the Report, with the greatest respect to the Committee that has done the very professional work, we would not have done justice to the victims of this barbaric and horrific attack visited on innocent lives.
    So, even though I would want to make comments to the Report and the Motion, I am of the position that we should not adopt the Report. This is because if we do adopt the Report, it means that the House would be bound by the recommendations in the Report which, in my view, are very lame punitive measures which would not be far-reaching enough. I am in total support of the many recommendations and a number of suggestions that my Hon
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    Colleague, Alhaji Muntaka, has spoken to.

    For once, we have to bare our teeth

    clearly to the military officers who are

    involved. We have seen some 13 or 14

    days' detention measures meted out but that is definitely not enough. I would wish

    that we went further beyond the

    recommendations prescribed in the

    Report and put out more punitive

    measures.

    Mr Speaker, it is not just to punish the

    perpetrators of this act but also to send the

    signal out there that if one serves in the

    Military, certain deliverables are

    expected and a certain professional life is

    expected. We cannot be seen to be toying

    with the lives of our people, the very

    taxpayers whose money is used to pay

    these Military officers. So, even though I

    speak to the Report, I am unable to

    support an attempt to adopt it. I think that

    we should reject the Report and look at

    the recommendations again and maybe

    add more flesh to the recommendations

    particularly.

    Speaking in agreement with my Hon

    Colleague, even where there should be

    compensation, there must be a bit of

    certainty in terms of the volume and the

    kind of recommendation that the

    Committee is putting out to be adopted. It

    is only when we do that that the Ghanaian

    people would see that, yes, Parliament

    has really bared its teeth and the 13 and

    14 days' detention handed out to these

    perpetrators of this crime has really been

    dealt with and we have not allowed them

    to go off the hook.

    Mr Speaker, let me conclude on a

    point made on civilian-military

    relationship. I do not know if it is part of

    the training template handed over to

    recruits who go through military training,

    but if it is, then probably we have to up it

    and do an assessment to realise whether,

    indeed, the kind of training or the content

    of the training is enough, based on the

    vagaries of activities and the change of

    activities that we are witnessing in

    various places and communities.

    Now, we must put out that red light for

    everybody to realise, particularly those

    who serve in the military, that they cannot

    take the law into their hands and

    misbehave with the thought that based on

    their code of conduct, they would be

    handed some 13 or 14 days' detention and that would be all. On this occasion, we

    must go beyond it, bare our teeth and send

    a clear signal to our colleagues and

    compatriots that this country is a serious

    country and as a democratic and law-

    abiding country, if they fall foul of the

    law, it would squarely deal with them and

    fall on their head as an axe.

    Mr Speaker, I speak to the Motion but

    I am of the strongest view that we should

    not adopt this Report. The Committee

    should go back and do a proper work, so

    to speak, by adding more to the

    recommendations and come back for us

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    to take a decision on this matter. Thank

    you.
    Mr Speaker 3:36 p.m.
    Thank you very much. I
    do not know of any group of people who
    have not been colonised before, except
    Ethiopia. Bob Marley told us long ago
    that if we do not emancipate ourselves
    from mental slavery, nobody would help
    us free our minds and if we do not free
    our minds, we would never develop,
    neither as a country nor as a people.
    As public servants, it is the people who
    employ us. They pay and feed us, clothe
    and buy all the things that we use to work
    and we are to use the things to serve them.
    Parliament has done well by investigating
    this incident thoroughly but as has been
    concluded, this is not the case of roma
    locuta, causa finita to wit: Rome has
    spoken, the case is closed. That is not the
    case here; there is still a lot to be done.
    I would want to commend the
    Committee on Defence and Interior for
    doing a thorough job and for submitting a
    very comprehensive Report except that
    there is still something more to be done.

    I would give directives for what is left

    to be done.

    I also want to commend the Hon

    Minister for Defence and the Military

    High Command for the swift action they

    took in this matter. In fact, I flew with the

    Military High Command to Wa and we

    went to meet the necessary authorities

    and to investigate the matter. After that,

    when I went to Wa, some portions of the

    recommendations of the Committee were

    already being implemented. So the

    Military High Command, together with

    the Hon Minister, has taken some actions

    in this matter, but there is still more to be

    done.

    I would want to commend the people

    of Wa for their comportment, led by the

    overlord of Wa — the Wa Naa. We have seen this before in Wa. When I was the

    President of the Wa Students Union, the

    border guards at that time did the same

    thing. At that time, the people did not

    comport themselves and they attacked the

    barracks of the border guards. They ran

    helter-skelter and their buildings were

    burnt. So, the Military cannot think that

    they are impregnable. They are not.

    I have heard security people make

    comments like “you civilians”, but where did they themselves come from and

    where would they end? Today, we have

    bought uniforms for them to wear, so they

    are members of the security agency, but

    they would go on retirement the next day

    and would be back to being civilians. I

    have met the Commander in charge, not

    the one who gave the order, and I

    articulated these things to him, that some

    of the people they beat that day had their

    parents being part of the military, so they

    were beating their children.

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    At where the Office of the President

    now is, there were some Warrant Officers

    (WOs) and some middle-level military

    men living there at the time, and I did a

    case there as a result of the military

    brutalities that went on there at the time.

    In that case, a certain gentleman was shot,

    taken to the Police, and was locked in a

    police cell. He was later on prosecuted for

    being a thief, just because he was jogging,

    but he was just training himself to be fit.

    The gentleman, as a result of the

    brutalities that went on there, processed

    himself into the Military and was

    recruited, and I could tell you, he was so

    violent because of what was meted out to

    him.

    In fact, as a young man, in 1977, I went

    for recruitment to enter the Military for

    three reasons: (1) for the discipline; (2)

    for the physical fitness; and (3) for the

    hard work, particularly the endurance

    aspect. That was what attracted me to go

    there. I had then finished Sixth Form and

    had got admitted to read Law and

    Administration. Today, one cannot say

    that with what is happening in the

    country, our military is disciplined. We

    all saw on social media what is happening

    in Nigeria. We should pray that that never

    happens in Ghana. Please, let us

    ‘emancipate ourselves from mental slavery. Nobody would help us to free our

    minds'. The security agencies must be modernised, and this House is prepared to

    support Government's efforts to do so.

    One cannot, as an employee, always

    turn against the employer. At a person's will, any day, he can take an employer on

    and decide what to do with him, including

    executing him. With all those cases that

    were mentioned, nothing has happened to

    them, and this must stop. I would want the

    Committee to continue. We would want

    to know what has happened to Lt Gyasie.

    The Report says he is being tried, but

    what is the outcome of the trial? We want

    to know. We want the Committee to

    continue to get in touch with

    professionals, so that we can get

    compensation for the victims. They have

    all been identified. From the Report, one

    could estimate the kind of injuries, the

    pain and suffering they went through,

    including the car washing bay owner.

    This is a democratic country, not a

    military regime, and we are the civilian

    leaders. We have to bring the security

    agencies under our control, and this, we

    must do. We approve everything for

    them, and we give them a special place in

    the Business of this House. Any time we

    get things from the Military or the Police,

    we give them a special place, but if they

    have decided that they would turn against

    us the ones who approve the funds that

    are used to pay them, then I can tell them

    that they have nowhere to hide in the

    world.

    So, please, Committee, continue with

    the investigation and get compensation

    paid to the other people. I am directing

    that you do so. And as I said, make sure

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    that we get the outcome of the trial of Lt

    Gyasie. It is true that the Military High

    Command took swift action. For me, the

    measures that they took are adequate for

    these young recruits. That is my opinion,

    and I think that the House should take that

    to heart and give strong notice to not only

    the Military, but to all security agencies

    that we would no longer entertain any

    brutality on any civilian or any person in

    this country. The law is there to be

    enforced.

    I would further direct that the

    Committee should go ahead and take

    reports of all the commissions that have

    been set up by Government to investigate

    all those cases, and bring them to this

    House. We cannot continue this way. We

    are getting to the 2024 elections, and if

    we do not stamp out all these things,

    please, I would be having nightmares.

    Strong measures must be taken before we

    get to the 2024 elections or else I do not

    know what the outcome would be. We

    would no longer tolerate this, and

    Parliament is the centre of this democracy

    in Ghana. The concept is very clear. The

    security agencies are agencies of the

    Executive. When self-regulation fails,

    external regulation would take over.

    Hon Members, this would be my last

    directive. Please, the occasion of 1st July

    did not happen for nothing. That was a

    time we decided to become a sovereign

    nation, no longer under the rule and

    thumb of the Queen, and that is why the

    nation was named a Republic. So, unlike

    Canada, Australia and the rest, we do not

    have the Queen visiting us like she visits

    them. The 1st of July was when Ghana

    became a Republic, so we must continue

    to celebrate it as the real Independence

    Day. The coat of arms of this country

    says: “Freedom and Justice”, and it must

    be so. If we have to look at the law again,

    we must.

    I do not think that 7th January is more

    important than 1st July. I do not buy that

    argument. I was brought up very early as

    a young man to be singing the song “we fear no foe”. That was how I was brought up, so please, this is where I would end it.

    We expect the Committee to expedite

    action on this and report back to the

    House. I so direct.

    I would now put the Question —

    Mr Ahmed Ibrahim — rose —
    Mr Speaker 3:36 p.m.
    Yes, Deputy Minority
    Chief Whip?
    Mr Ahmed Ibrahim 3:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    before you put the Question, I was keenly
    following your directives, and I heard you
    direct the Committee on Defence and the
    Interior that in addition to taking on board
    what the two Hon Chief Whips said, they
    must go for all similar reports and bring
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    them to the House. While you were

    making those statements, we were

    chatting across the Benches. We wanted

    you to be specific. Which of those, and

    starting from when? I heard some people

    say that it is the Emile Short Commission

    Report, the T.Y. Report, the Asawase

    Report and the Ejura Committee (DSP

    Azugu) Report. So, Mr Speaker, you

    could be specific, so that the Committee

    on Defence and the Interior do not get

    confused on where to get the reports,

    thereby not reporting back to the House.
    Mr Speaker 3:36 p.m.
    I am very grateful to you
    for drawing my attention to this. I want us
    to look at these reports since we became
    a Fourth Republic. So, I would want us to
    take a serious view of all the reports
    starting from January 1993. We would go
    through them as a House. From January
    1993 to date, we have established
    commissions to investigate these
    occurrences. We must pick up all those
    reports from wherever they are, and as a
    House, we are capable of doing this, so
    we can go through them.
    Please, --[Interruption]-- Hon Members, there should be self-regulation.
    So, that is my directive, and if Leadership
    disagrees with that directive, then they
    should let me know now.
    Mr Annoh-Dompreh 3:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in
    this House, we always defer to you on
    such matters. You are very experienced in
    these matters, so we would find it difficult
    to disagree with you. However, the point
    must be made, like my Hon Colleague
    said, that we would have to be a bit more
    specific in terms of the referrals so that
    we would be sure — Mr Speaker, with respect, my fear is that if we are not
    careful — Yes, I have confidence in the competence of my good Friend, Hon
    Agalga, and the Committee Leadership,
    but if the work becomes too much for
    them, they may not be able to exhaust the
    issues, and Mr Speaker, you brought out
    critical aspects, as was spoken to by my
    Hon Colleague. Concerning the nature
    and the kind of compensation to be given,
    we would have to get professional advice
    on it for them to come clear on that.
    Mr Speaker, therefore, essentially, I
    am saying that in the face of all these
    suggestions that have come up, are we
    adopting the Report or rejecting it, and
    directing the Committee to go back and
    do some more work? Or, are we adopting
    the Report with a caveat that they should
    take some further action to complement
    what they have done already? That is the
    clarity I was seeking.
    Mr Speaker 3:36 p.m.
    I have not put the
    Question. When I put the Question, I
    would say “subject to the directives”. However, I do not think getting those
    reports would be too much for the
    Committee or for this House. I have them
    before me, I have admitted them, and
    Leadership is aware of Private Motions
    on these matters from both Sides of the
    House. This is what would bring a closure
    because when this comprehensive Report
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    comes, those Private Member's Motions that you have filed would all be covered,

    and as a House, we would take the Report

    on and ensure that your concerns in those

    Private Member's Motions are responded to. You have a Private Member's Bill talking about issues to do with January

    1993 reports, and we have a number of

    them. We want the country to see that we

    are together in this matter, and would

    want to handle it holistically.

    Hon Members, please, we would not flounder in this matter. I trust the Hon Chairman of the Committee, Mr Ken Ohene Agyapong, as well as the Hon Ranking Member, Mr James Agalga. In fact, the Hon Vice Chairman, Ms Ophelia Mensah, has done very well in presenting the Report, and I have no doubt about her competence in this matter. Hence, all my directives still stay, and I am going to put the Question subject to the directives. At least, the Report is before us, and we are just adopting it, subject to the directives. We would go on with it, and then you would submit your Report later. That is why I started by saying “Roma locuta, causa finita est” to wit, “Rome has spoken, the matter is finished”, but that is not the situation here.

    Yes, Ranking Member?
    Mr James Agalga 3:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    think I am ad idem with your directives
    which are well thought out. We are
    capable of executing the task assigned us
    by your good self, and we shall do so with
    alacrity.
    Mr Speaker 3:36 p.m.
    Yes, we are prepared to support you to fund your activities and bring us a report because this is one of the serious challenges to our democracy. That is why we are here, and we would have to confront them. There would be no wishy-washy at all. With this, I would put the Question.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Mr Speaker 3:36 p.m.
    Hon Members, the Report is accordingly adopted, subject to the directives, and the Committee is hereby empowered to go forward and submit a comprehensive report on the issues that have been raised.
    Hon Members, I thank you so much.
    We would move on to the next Motion. At the pre-Sitting meeting, we agreed that we would do Motions — We cannot do Motion 11, in view of the numbers, unless Leadership agree to it. It is a Resolution.
    Mr Annoh-Dompreh 3:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I have reached out to my Hon Colleague, and ordinarily, we should be taking either item numbered 13 or 14, but we have had some discussions, hence, we would want to defer either of the two items to tomorrow, Thursday, 2nd June 2022.
    Alhaji Muntaka 3:46 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, rightly so, we did not plan for an extended Sitting, and as you can see, it is just about eight minutes to 4.00 p.m., and either of these Motions is so weighty. We believe that if we start now, we may not be able to finish, so we have understood that we
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    would definitely take them tomorrow. We just wanted everybody to take note that we have agreed to take them tomorrow. We should not come tomorrow and try to postpone it further. It will be the main Business when we get to Public Business.

    Mr Speaker, to add, these Motions have been on the Order Paper for too long, just as we took this Report, where we lamented how long they have stayed. I hope the Leadership of both Sides would ensure that we keep to our words, so that we take these Motions tomorrow. I would like to urge and thank my Hon Colleagues for their endurance throughout, because we took the opportunity to adopt the Investigative Report of the Committee on Defence and Interior on the Incident of the Military Brutality on Civilians in Wa. We would urge Hon Members to do well to be in this Chamber in their numbers tomorrow for us to do these two other Private Motions.

    Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 3:46 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Majority
    Chief Whip?
    Mr Annoh-Dompreh 3:46 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    am in support of my Hon Colleague,
    except when he made the statement that
    we should stick to our agreement. In this
    House, we have always agreed to
    disagree. However, it is subject to an
    amendment from both Leaders should
    something come up. I can see the
    respected Hon Minority Leader nodding
    his head because he understands the
    context in which I am speaking.

    Mr Speaker, with that I am in support,

    and considering the time, we are squarely

    in your hands.
    Mr Speaker 3:46 p.m.
    Well, we have always
    agreed to disagree. It is my duty to
    support you to ensure that your
    lieutenants and followers are with you, so
    that is what we are doing here, but we
    must be together to transact Business.
    Hon Members, before I adjourn, I
    would like to remind the Members of the
    Committee of Selection that we would be
    meeting on the Report, so that we lay it
    tomorrow. I would be available at 5.00
    p.m. to chair the Committee for us to
    finish the Report and lay it tomorrow. The
    draft report is ready so we just need to
    finalise it, and bring it for the
    consideration of the House. The venue is
    the Makeshift Conference Room of the Rt
    Hon Speaker, which is now the Speaker's Lobby.
    ADJOURNMENT 3:46 p.m.