Debates of 8 Nov 2022

MR FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER
PRAYERS 11:36 a.m.

Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
Hon
Members, we would proceed to the item
numbered 4, Correction of the Votes and
Proceedings and the Official Report. We
shall start with the Votes and Proceedings
of Friday, 4th November, 2022.
Order! Order!
Page 1…9.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
Yes, Hon
Second Deputy Majority Whip?
Mr Habib Iddrisu 11:36 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I am
sorry to bring you back to page 7. This issue
came up last week. On the items numbered
14 and 11; the Hon Member of Parliament
for Hohoe and the Hon Majority Chief
Whip have sought permission. They are on
official duties but they keep appearing as
having been absent. I think the Hon
Majority Leader raised this issue last week,
so, the Clerks-at-the-Table should take note
since they continue to appear as being
absent.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
I know about
the Hon Majority Chief Whip but what is it
about the Hon Minister for Railways
Development?
Mr Habib Iddrisu 11:36 a.m.
Mr Speaker, he is
also on an official duty. A request for
permission was brought to the Caucus
which was signed and sent to the Rt Hon
Speaker but he was not present by then.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
Very well, I
am advised by the Table Office that the
requests are still at the Rt Hon Speaker's Office. When it comes to the Table Office,
they would effect the corrections.
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Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
Yes, Hon
Minority Leader?
Mr Haruna Iddrisu 11:36 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I may
not have the full facts; the item numbered
43 on page 8, Dr Emmanuel Marfo was
privileged to be made the Chairman of the
Group at the first ever Climate Vulnerable
Forum Global Parliamentary Group (CVF
GPG) Inaugural Annual Dialogue of the
Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU),
Conference of the Parties 27 (COP27). So,
I believe that he is officially in Egypt
playing some role but I do not have
information about how his travels may have
happened. However, we gave him a role to
play as Chairman of the COP27 Vulnerable
Group on behalf of the IPU and Ghana.
Therefore, if the Clerks-at-the-Table could
take note and police his leave of absence
and know what it is. I am sure he would
have done what is needful per our
procedure. Mr Speaker, I thank you.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
Thank you
very much. The Clerks-at-the-Table would
take note.
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Mr Rockson-Nelson E.K. Dafeamekpor
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Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
Yes, Hon
Member for South Dayi?
Mr Rockson-Nelson E.K. Dafeamekpor 11:36 a.m.
Mr Speaker, on page 25, the last item, “Mr Evans Kyei Ntir”, I think the letter “i” is missing from the “Ntir” if the Clerks-at-the- Table could take note.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
Very well.
The Clerks-at-the-Table should take note
and effect the corrections.
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Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:36 a.m.
Hon
Member for Old Tafo, are you on your feet?

Page 35…50?

Hon Members, in the absence of any

further corrections, the Votes and

Proceedings of the Eighth Sitting held on

Friday, 4th November, 2022, as corrected, is

adopted as the true record of proceedings.
ANNOUNCEMENTS 11:47 a.m.

Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:47 a.m.
Hon
Members, I have the pleasure to introduce
to you a delegation of Hon Members of the
Public Accounts Committee (PAC) on
Local Government of the Parliament of
Uganda, who are on a five-day study visit to
Ghana. The delegation is here, among other
things, to interact with their counterparts,
gain in-depth knowledge on the workings of
the Public Accounts and the Local
Government Committees, exchange ideas,
and learn best practices as far as the
operations of the respective Committees are
concerned.
The visit is further intended to create the
platform for networking between Hon
Members and their Ugandan counterparts
with an aim to deepening relations between
the two Legislatures.
The delegation is made up of:
(1) Hon Byakatonda Abdulhu, Leader of Delegation;
(2) Hon Kaala Kevin Ojinga, MP;
(3) Hon Lokwang Philips Ikukol, MP;
(4) Hon Paparu Lillian Obiale, MP;
(5) Hon Rwemulikye Ibanda, MP;
(6) Ms Nanyonjo Sylvia, Research Officer;
(7) Mr Nuwabeine Josephat, Auditor, and
(8) Mr Kunya Willie Salongo - Auditor.
Hon Members, on behalf of the House, I
welcome the delegation to the Parliament of
Ghana and I wish them fruitful
deliberations.
Thank you.
Hon Members, we move to the item
numbered 5 — Questions.
The Hon Minister for Youth and Sports
is slated to answer a number of Questions.
If he is here, he may take his seat.
rose
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:47 a.m.
Hon
Minority Leader, yes?
Mr Haruna Iddrisu 11:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, if the
Hon Minister for Youth and Sports
would take no objection, I would seek
your indulgence to allow the Hon
Minister for Oti Region, probably, to
answer the Question numbered 1476
before we come to him.
I have discussed it with the available
Leader, the Hon First Deputy Majority
Whip and we have further agreed that
the Hon Minister can answer the
Question from where he is currently
sitting. Mr Speaker, if it so pleases
you. Thank you.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:47 a.m.
Hon
available Leader, what is your
reaction?
Mr Habib Iddrisu 11:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I
have no objection. That was the
agreement.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:47 a.m.
Hon
Minister for Youth and Sports, kindly
give the opportunity to the Hon
Minister for Oti Region but I suggest
that he takes the seat for answering
Questions. He can answer from his seat
if he so desires but he should kindly
move forward to the seat by the Hon

I will ask him if it is all rigth for him

to come and stand here, otherwise, he

can answer from his seat.

Very well, the Question numbered

1476 stands in the name of the Hon

Member for Buem, Mr Kofi Iddie Adams.

You may ask your Question now, please.
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 11:47 a.m.

OTI REGION 11:47 a.m.

Mr Kofi Iddie Adams (NDC — Buem) 11:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I beg to ask the Hon Minister
for Oti Region why he ordered for the
uprooting of tree seedlings planted by
officials of the National Democratic
Congress (NDC) in Nkwanta SHS on
Saturday 4th June, 2022 in response to the
Green Ghana Project instituted by
government.
Minister for Oti Region (Mr Joseph
Makubu): Mr Speaker, as the Hon Minister
for the Oti Region, I have never asked
anybody to uproot any tree seedlings
planted by the NDC officials in Nkwanta
SHS. [Uproar].
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:47 a.m.
Hon
Members, Order! Order! —
Hon Member, do you have any follow-up
questions?
Mr Adams 11:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, thank you for
the opportunity for a follow-up. May I find
out from the Hon Minister whether he
ordered for uprooting of seedlings in the
Secondary School in Nkwanta?
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:47 a.m.
Hon
Member, he has answered that Question.
Mr Adams 11:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, it is a follow-
up.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:47 a.m.
Hon
Members, the Question before the House, to
which the Hon Member is permitted to do a
follow-up, is whether the Hon Minister
ordered the uprooting of trees planted by the
NDC officials in Nkwanta SHS on 4th of
June, 2022. All follow-up questions must be
related to this one.
Mr Adams 11:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, thank you. I am
asking, as a follow-up, whether the Hon
Minister is being truthful that he did not
order for the uprooting of tree seedlings
planted by the NDC in Nkwanta Secondary
School?
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:47 a.m.
Hon
Member, Senior High School (SHS) is the
same as Secondary School and the Hon
Minister has answered that.
Mr Adams 11:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, when Hon
Ministers in their Regions perform
functions— well, he himself knows that what he did, possibly, is wrong so he is
trying to deny the fact that he ordered for
the uprooting of seedlings.
The people of Oti Region and Nkwanta
are watching him live and they would know
where the truth lies.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:56 a.m.
Hon
Minister, thank you very much for attending
upon the House to answer the Question.

Hon Members, the rule that constituency

specific Questions would not be extended is

strictly applied.

Yes, Hon Minister for Youth and Sports,

you may take your seat now.

Hon Members, the Question numbered

1286 by the Hon Member for South Tongu,

Mr Kobena Mensah Woyome.

Hon Member for South Tongu, you may

ask your Question now, please.
MINISTRY OF YOUTH AND 11:56 a.m.

SPORTS 11:56 a.m.

Mr Woyome 11:56 a.m.
Mr Speaker, in paragraph
3 of the Hon Minister's Answer, he indicated that the e-ticketing has been
largely successful. Why then is the Ministry
exploring possibilities of engaging other
service providers?
Mr Ussif 11:56 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I indicated that
we use the e-Government platform with the
support of other stakeholders. The e-
Government platform gives us the
opportunity to engage technicians, so we
are exploring the opportunity of engaging
vendors who can support us to operate on
that platform.
Mr Woyome 11:56 a.m.
Mr Speaker, does it mean
that the Ministry engaged the services of e-
Governance outside the law?
Mr Ussif 11:56 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the e-Governance
platform is a government platform
supported by technicians and all
government agencies on that platform.
When one is going into a digitalisation
drive, he or she engages all the stakeholders
involved and when there is the need to
engage a third party, one can still do so
through the e-Government platform; that is
why I said the piloting was done by not
engaging any third party, but we used the e-
Government platform in executing the pilot
and it was largely successful as the Hon
Member can attest to.
Mr Woyome 11:56 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the Hon
Minister admitted in paragraph 4 of his
Answer, and I quote: “… there were few challenges associated with the trials...” of the entire system. So, could the Hon
Minister furnish this House with some of
the challenges associated with the trial?
Mr Ussif 11:56 a.m.
Mr Speaker, on the day of the
match, one of the challenges we identified
was that the gadget that was supposed to be
used to scan the tickets — most people came there with a manual card. They went
ahead to print cards, instead of just scanning
with their phones to be given access to the
Stadium. The people also took advantage of
that by printing fake cards to get access.
That was one of the challenges we
identified.
The other challenge we identified was the
new system for revenue collection. There
was also the issue of system breakdown
which we need to build upon. So, those
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were a few challenges we identified, but we

were able to resolve the system immediately

to ensure — Because of the high volumes of spectators who wanted to troop in to the

Kumasi Sports Stadium to watch the Ghana

Black Stars team, there was a heavy load on

the system and it broke down, however, we

were able to resolve it.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Very well,
we would proceed to the next Question
which is in the name of the same Hon
Member for South Tongu, Mr Kobena
Woyome.
Seating Capacity of the Baba Yara
Sports Stadium and Related Issues
Arising
Mr Kobena Mensah Woyome (South
Tongu—NDC): Mr Speaker, I beg to ask the Minister for Youth and Sports what the
seating capacity of the Baba Yara Sports
Stadium is, the number of tickets sold on
25th March, 2022 and why the stadium was
overfilled, endangering the lives of
supporters and spectators.
Minister for Youth and Sports (Mr
Mustapha Ussif) (MP): Mr Speaker, the
existing seating capacity of the Baba Yara
Sports Stadium is about 40,500. However,
with the ongoing renovation of the facility,
it is expected that this number would be
increased to 45,000. On the match between
the Black Stars and the Super Eagles,
organised on 25th March, 2022 at the
stadium, a total number of 42,680 tickets
were sold.
I must say that all these tickets were e-
tickets. Clearly, the number of tickets sold
did not in any way exceed the seating
capacity of the stadium.
Mr Speaker, the interest and enthusiasm
of Ghanaians for the support of the Black
Stars, can never be under estimated. It is
even more so when the first leg was taking
place at the Baba Yara Sports Stadium, a
well noted area for massive football
support.

As the tickets got finished, the interest of

many other enthusiasts increased, but being

cautious of the danger of excess seating

capacity, no additional tickets were sold

out. I was reliably informed that during the

match, teeming spectators were at the gates

of entry, but the security did not allow entry.

I personally directed the managers of the

stadium and all operatives to ensure that

overcrowding was avoided.

Mr Speaker, I am unable to confirm any

conscious omission or commission on our

side that sought to endanger the lives of

supporters and spectators. If there was any

such occurrence, it was not part of the

information that we had.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Yes, Hon
Member?
Mr Woyome 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, as part of
building a ground for my next question,
there were several newspaper reportages on
the match and I have been able to tease out
one for this purpose and that is from
GhanaWeb, written by Eric Murphy. The
headline was “Stampede at Black Stars match against Nigeria Super Eagles in
Kumasi”, and several tabloids held the same view.
Mr Speaker, in fact, for the Hon Minister
to appreciate what I am saying, with your
permission I would quote certain portions,
and it reads:
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“A section of the crowd has to break the southeast gate causing a

stampede.'' Although the stadium ticket was sold online, skirmishes

are part of the game. We entreat

football people to put proper

measures to curtail such unwanted

stampedes.”

Mr Speaker, in other write-ups, four

people collapsed, not dead -- and knowing what happened in the famous stadium

disaster we all commemorate every year to

remind ourselves of such occurrences, and

therefore, take measures. From the Answer

provided by the Hon Minister, he must

improve on his sources of information.

What he got by way of information on the

entire report is probably inaccurate. Does

the Hon Minister agree with me on that?
Mr Ussif 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I do not agree
with the Hon Member. I have authorities
working; we have security agencies in this
country, who were present at the match
venue. We had the National Security, the
Police, and the National Investigation
Bureau (NIB), but there was no such report
of stampede. Just by way of a newspaper
reportage does not mean that is an accurate
information. I told the Hon Member that on
that day, because it was a high tension
match between Ghana and Nigeria, and also
knowing that it was the match that could
qualify Ghana to the World Cup in Qatar,
the entire country was behind the team.
People who did not even have access to
tickets came to give their support by
standing at the gate. Yes, one might hear
that the whole place was packed, but it does
not mean that there was stampede there. So,
for the Hon Member to say that I do not
have information when he is speaking to a
newspaper reportage, and not a security
agency reporting that such incidents took
place means the Hon Member does not have
the facts, not the Hon Minister.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Yes, Hon
Member?
Mr Woyome 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I believe we
are just doing our work and tabloids like
JoyNews and several others reported same.
We usually rely on them, especially when
owners of the content have been so
mentioned, and that helps one to
investigate, but then, in the Hon Minister's own Answer to the House, he indicated that
because of the high level attached to it — of course, the Hon Minister would want to
pre-empt if he included all the personalities
and professionals — the Hon Minister has just indicated that similar situations in terms
of overcrowding at the entry points and
several other things could have been
thought about and some measures could
have been put in place.
Did the Hon Minister educate Ghanaians
that the Ministry was selling e-tickets so
they should go to a portal and access the
tickets or without it they should not show up
at the gate?
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Yes, Hon
Minister?
Mr Ussif 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, yes, we did and it
was public knowledge and information.
Both the Ministry and the Ghana Football
Association (GFA) did a one-week
campaign on the need for those without
tickets not to turn up at the stadium, but like
I said, this was a high level match between
Ghana and Nigeria, and being the last leg of
the qualifying match to go to the World Cup
for the fourth time, the entire country was
behind the team. The whole place was
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packed; not inside the stadium but outside;

people just wanted to come and cheer-up

our Black Stars.

So, to answer the Hon Member's question, there was a massive campaign

done on the e-ticket and I know that on

social media and even radio, there was a

massive campaign to educate the public on

the need to get them.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Very well.
Hon Members, the Question numbered
1290 stands in the name of the Hon Member
for Kwadaso, Dr Kingsley Nyarko.
Status of Astro Turf in the Kwadaso
Constituency
Dr Kingsley Nyarko (Kwadaso— NPP) 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I beg to ask the Minister
for Youth and Sports the status of the
AstroTurf in the Beposo Cluster of Schools
in the Kwadaso Constituency.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Yes, Hon
Minister?
Mr Ussif 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, this facility is not
under the watch of the Ministry, even
though we have keen interest in it because
it is consistent with our mandate, and,
indeed, the facility is being constructed by
the Middle Belt Development Authority
(MBDA). I, therefore, would like to refer
the Hon Member to the authorities of the
Middle Belt Development Authority for
answers to this Question.
Dr Nyarko 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I appreciate the
response from the Hon Minister, but I
would want to place on record, with all due
respect, that on the 19th January and 14th
April, 2022, I wrote an official letter to the
authority's Chief Executive Officer (CEO),
but those letters have not been responded to
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Hon
Member, which agency did you write to?
Dr Nyarko 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I wrote to the
CEO of the Middle Belt Development
Authority on two occasions without a
response —
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Hon
Member, the Hon Minister for Youth and
Sports would then not be able to comment
on that. So, I suggest that we leave it here.
Dr Nyarko 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I appreciate
that; however, on the 24th November, 2021,
Mr Suhuyini Alhassan Sayibu asked a
similar Question and the Ministry gave a
breakdown of the number of Astro Turfs
and cost from the Middle Belt Development
Authority, so I am surprised that in the case
of the Kwadaso Constituency, this
information is not available. For
consistency sake, we need to follow the
same pattern.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
Hon
Member, do you have that Question?
Dr Nyarko 12:06 p.m.
Mr Speaker, yes, I have it.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:06 p.m.
What was
the Question? In any case, do you have any
information that the Hon Minister's Answer indicating that facility is not being
constructed by his Ministry is not correct?
Dr Nyarko 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I agree with
that; I do not have any issue with the
response of the Hon Minister. I would want
to place on record —

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Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:17 p.m.
I suggest that
we move on. You can make a statement
outside the Chamber but he is on the Floor
to answer Questions related to his Ministry.
Probably, if our attention was drawn to it,
we could have asked another Minister to
answer it rather than the Hon Minister for
Youth and Sports. So, let us me move on.
Dr Nyarko 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, respectfully,
indulge me. You asked me to give you
evidence of Mr Suhuyini Sayibu's —
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:17 p.m.
Dr Nyarko, I
withdraw my request of you. Kindly leave
it there.
Dr Nyarko 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I thank you.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:17 p.m.
Question
numbered 1422 — Hon Member for Kintampo North, Mr Joseph Kwame
Kumah?
Plans to Establish an AstroTurf in
Kintampo
Mr Joseph Kwame Kumah (NDC — Kintampo North) 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I beg to
ask the Hon Minister for Youth and Sports
if there is any plan to establish an Astroturf
in Kintampo since the town has a vibrant
football culture yet, no single standard
football pitch.
Mr Ussif 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I wish to reiterate
my response to this august House on
Tuesday, 8th March, 2022, as a response to
the Question posed by my Hon Friend, Mr
Joseph Kwame Kumah. I emphasise my
Ministry's commitment to focus more on sports development rather than promotion.
Mr Speaker, in this policy, the
Government intends to provide all the
necessary sports infrastructure and facilities
for every constituency across the country.
At the initial investment, the Government
plans to provide at least, one Astroturf in
every constituency of the country. I would
like to assure the Hon Member that as and
when resources are made available by the
Ministry of Finance to the Ministry of
Youth and Sports, his constituency and our
people in Kintampo North would be
provided with an Astroturf.
Mr J. K. Kumah 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I thank
the Hon Minister for the assurance.
Mr Speaker, we are aware of the names 12:17 p.m.
Baba Yara, Dogo Moro, Kwasi Owusu,
Razak and others. These people are proudly
from Kintampo North Municipality. The
Hon Minister said as and when the Ministry
of Finance has money-- Would he consider other sources since it is not only with the
Ministry of Finance that is giving Astroturf
to other localities as we are all aware?
Mr Ussif 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I would consider
other sources. I would like to use this
opportunity to appeal to Cooperate Ghana
to come to the aid of the Ministry of Youth
and Sports in our quest of providing sports
infrastructure to all the 275 constituencies
in Ghana to promote and develop sports
across the country.
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr J. K. Kumah 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, once
again, I am grateful to my Hon Brother and
Minister. Mr Speaker, it is said that we only
ask for big things after we have got the
small things we asked for. Inasmuch as I am
asking for an Astroturf on behalf of
Kintampoman and Ghana Kintampo is the
centre of our nation and the world; would
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the Hon Minister consider a stadium for

Kintampo in future? If the centre does not

hold —
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:17 p.m.
Hon
Member, let us stay at Astroturf for now.
Mr J. K. Kumah 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, thank
you. Would the Hon Minister consider
Kintampo urgently since it is the heart of the
whole nation?
Mr Ussif 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I said it here that
Kintampo North is dear to me and it is part
of our plans to ensure that every
constituency in Ghana is considered with
one Astroturf. Once Kintampo is dear to this
Government, they would be considered
once funds are available.
Mr J. K. Kumah 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I have
just been alerted by one of my chiefs in
Kintampo that “Dogo Moro” is not the name; rather it is “Ndogo Moro”. It means Brother Moro and I would like us to know
it.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:17 p.m.
Thank you
for correcting the report.
Very well. I would move on.
The next Question is in the name of the
Hon Member for Anlo, Mr Richard Kwami
Sefe.
Mr Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu —rose—
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:17 p.m.
Hon
Member, kindly hold on.
Yes, Hon Majority Leader?
Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker,
in answering the Question numbered 1422,
the Hon Minister indicated that this
Question has been answered substantially in
March, 2022. I would just want to urge the
Table Officers to crosscheck the Questions
when they are filed. So, if a Question is
asked and a Member comes back to ask the
same Question, really, it offends our rules;
otherwise space would not be afforded to
other Members to ask relevant Questions.
One Question being recycled and
reprocessed, certainly is not good and it
offends Order 67 (1)(c) of the Standing
Orders which provides that:
“no Question shall be asked which raises an issue already decided, or
which has been answered
substantially, during the current
Session”.
Mr Speaker, this is the same Session. It is
the Second Session of the Eighth
Parliament. So, we should be mindful of
these things.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:17 p.m.
Thank you
very much. We would take note.
Yes, Hon Member for Anlo, you may
now ask your Question.
Provision of an AstroTurf for the
Anlo Constituency
Mr Richard Kwami Sefe (NDC — Anlo) 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I beg to ask the Hon
Minister for Youth and Sports when the
Anlo Constituency would benefit from the
Government's intervention of providing an Astroturf for all constituencies.
Mr Ussif 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I would like to
respond to my Hon Brother, the Hon
Member for Anlo, Mr Richard Kwami Sefe
that the good people of the Anlo
Constituency will surely benefit from the
Government's intervention of providing an
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Astroturf for all constituencies as soon as

resources are available. Permit me to add

that the provision of sports infrastructure,

including that of football, is highly crucial

for sports development in the country. It is

even a vehicle for maintaining security and

unearthing the potential of the youth,

creating jobs and employment through the

holistic value chain associated with the

sports industry. It is therefore my utmost

desire to see the good people of Anlo

Constituency benefit from this laudable

initiative of Government.
Mr Sefe 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, may I know from
the Hon Minster how soon is the soon?
Mr Ussif 12:17 p.m.
Mr Speaker, how soon is the
soon? As and when funds or resources are
made available to the Ministry of Youth and
Sports, we would definitely consider Anlo.
Anlo is part of the 275 constituencies of the
Republic of Ghana and as I said, the
Government initiative is to ensure that
every constituency is given its due share, at
least one Astro Turf. However, we all know
that there are budgetary constraints.
Resources are limited so as and when we get
available resources, Anlo would be
considered.
Mr Sefe 12:26 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I would like to ask
the Hon Minister the sources available that
he could explore for the people of Anlo to
have this AstroTurf done for us.
Mr Ussif 12:26 p.m.
Mr Speaker, the sources
available to the Ministry, as far as this
initiative is concerned, is budgetary
allocations. Also, as I said here when I was
responding to another Hon Colleagues
Question, we also rely on corporate Ghana.
I also made an appeal to corporate Ghana
to support the Ministry of Youth and Sports
in our quest to make sure that we get an
AstroTurf for each constituency to promote
our sports development across the country.
These are the sources that we depend on to
provide these AstroTurfs.
Mr Sefe 12:26 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I would like to ask
the Hon Minister to advise me on what to
tell my people, especially the youth who are
in the constituency listening and watching - - those of them who thought that it is because I was not so stern on these issues
that the projects are being done in other
areas, leaving mine.
What can the Hon Minister advise that I
tell them —
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:26 p.m.
Hon
Member, welcome to the club, but please
ask another question.
Mr Sefe 12:26 p.m.
Mr Speaker, I know that the
Hon Minister is capable and he could advise
me. As he is advising me, my people would
be listening.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:26 p.m.
Very well.
He would talk to you privately, but for our
purposes, the question should relate to what
is admitted on the Floor already. So, you
may see him in private to advise you.
rose
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:26 p.m.
Hon
Member, this is constituency-specific,
Anlo, and I am — How can you jump from two chairs behind you to come to
Leadership? I think that should be the end,
but I have a personal question.
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Hon Minister, when you say that it is

your policy that every constituency would

have an Astro Turf park or stadium, does

that include what is constructed in senior

high schools? This is because anytime

Bekwai asks for it, we are told there is an

Astro Turf at the SDA school, which is

remote from the town. How does that form

a community stadium?
Mr Ussif 12:26 p.m.
Mr Speaker, once there is an
Astro Turf in the constituency, whether in
the school or in the community, we deem it
to be a benefit for the whole constituency,
so we would consider Bekwai to be one of
the constituencies that has benefited.
However, as and when we get the
resources, we would consider the
community as well.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:26 p.m.
Very well. I
would not argue with you, but I ask you to
review your policy. The school is a private
property. We cannot enter freely. One must
be a student, teacher or stakeholder to enter
the school, so the Astro Turf is not a
community one. It belongs to the SDA
school, and it is not available to the
community. So, please, take that out of the
list of communities —
rose
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:26 p.m.
Hon
Member, you are not a Leader. The Leaders
are there, so I would not recognise you.
First Deputy Minority Whip (Mr
Ahmed Ibrahim): Mr Speaker, you are
right. He is not a Member of the Leadership,
but he is a Member of the extended
Leadership - [Laughter]. As a former Hon Minister for Youth and Sports, he wanted to
ask a question, which would help his Hon
Brother, the Hon Minister for Youth and
Sports so that they help build the Ministry.
So, I would plead, with you to give him a
minute just to ask that question.
Thank you very much.
Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:26 p.m.
Very well.
Because I asked my own, I would allow
you.
Mr Vanderpuye 12:26 p.m.
Thank you very much.
Mr Speaker, I am following up from what
you just said. We have had a crisis here in
Accra. At Accra Academy, for example,
that facility was put there through Asamoah
Gyan.
Over a period, the school authorities
complained about the sort of environment
that is created through the football,
affecting academic work in the school. So,
they also decided that they would not allow
people to come in there to play during
school hours, unless they are on vacation.
This has created a problem between the
financier of the project and the school
authorities. So, we should, as much as
possible, divorce a facility for a school from
the general community one.
Secondly, if we are talking about putting
up a facility for sports development, then it
must be intended for sports development.
What I am seeing is facilities being put in
place as recreational facilities. They are
more recreational than for football
development.
We should also differentiate between
football development and sports
development because as soon as we extend
it to sports, then there must be an athletics
oval, a volley ball court - [Interruption] - It is an advice I am giving so that the
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technical people at the Ministry who are

liaising with people who are constructing

these facilities would understand that if they

are putting up a sports facility -
  • [An Hon Member: Is that a sports question? It is okay. You are deviating.] I am not asking — Mr Speaker, I am contributing as my Hon Leader said. It is a contribution —
  • Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:26 p.m.
    This is not a
    question, but I am interested and when you
    finish, I would ask you to tell me what
    happened to the “one district one stadium” that you promised in 2009. Alhaji Muntaka
    was the Hon Minister who answered that
    question before the Appointments
    Committee.
    Yes, continue with yours.
    Mr Vanderpuye 12:26 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I thank
    you. What I am saying is that the technical
    people at the Ministry, when they are
    dealing with the people who are
    constructing these facilities, should insist
    that — Mr Speaker, if we spend money to construct a field that only nine-a-side could
    play on, just adding a little five centimetres
    could make it possible for us to have a full-
    fledged facility which would host 11-a-
    side.That one would help us develop the
    football better, that is what — Because nine-a-side becomes recreational -- [Interruption]. We are talking about
    development, helping the people develop
    the game faster.
    Secondly, I am saying that if it is sports
    development, then we must, as much as
    possible, try to add other disciplines to the
    football.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:36 p.m.
    Thank you.
    There is another outstanding Question, but
    it is an interesting discussion that we must
    have. My view is that football people are
    rather encroaching on walled public facilities.
    In my view, every community has a park.
    It is used for football and all outdoor events,
    and that is what the Ministry is providing, but
    because football people think that it is for
    them, they are encroaching it, and if I want to
    have my funeral or wedding party, they do
    not want to allow me.
    Thank you very much, Hon Minister.
    Majority Leader (Mr Osei Kyei-
    Mensah-Bonsu): Mr Speaker, I believe, as
    the Hon Member has spoken to, we need to
    have a clear policy underpinning the
    development of these Astro Turfs.
    First, it is not possible to have the turf
    utilised for athletic purposes. They are not
    meant for that.
    Second, Mr Speaker, many of these pitches
    for the communities served as recreational
    grounds -- hosting funerals, birthdays, weddings, and so on. However, because of the
    subbase, once they put these chairs on them,
    overtime, they would not permit the utilisation
    any longer for football play, so we should
    understand.

    As for the other matter that my Hon

    Colleague raised about the smallness of the

    pitches, really, in developing football now, at

    the younger levels of the game play, just as

    what is happening in Europe, they reduce the

    pitches deliberately to encourage seven-a-side

    to play because they touch the ball much more

    frequently, and for honing the technical skills

    of the young players, that is what they do.

    They are training pitches, which is why I said

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    we should have a policy underpinning the

    construction of these facilities. As for the

    athletics oval, certainly, Astro Turf cannot

    serve that purpose; so, we need to have a

    clearly defined policy in the development of

    these Astro Turfs. That is where, perhaps, if

    we want the communities to have some

    benefits, we would have to really do a

    different thing. In some places, the base is

    purely concrete. If you do that, it can serve

    the purpose for the communities. However,

    developing football skills would also be

    negatively impacted. So, we have to have a

    policy.

    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:36 p.m.
    Hon
    Minister, thank you for attending upon the
    House to answer Questions. You are
    discharged.
    We have one more Question to be answered
    by the Hon Minister for Railway
    Development. Hon Minister, you may take
    your seat now.

    The Question numbered 885 is to be asked

    by the Hon Member for Nalerigu/Gambaga,

    Mr Seidu Issifu.
    MINISTRY OF RAILWAY 12:36 p.m.

    DEVELOPMENT 12:36 p.m.

    Mr Seidu Issifu (NDC — Nalerigu/Gambaga) 12:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to
    ask the Hon Minister for Railway
    Development, the state of the Accra Skytrain
    Project after the signing of a Memorandum of
    Understanding (MoU) between the
    Government of Ghana and the Africa
    Investment (AI) Skytrain Construction of
    South Africa.
    Minister for Railway Development (Mr
    John-Peter Amewu) (MP): Mr Speaker, the
    proposed Accra SkyTrain system is an
    integrated elevated light rail urban transit
    system that aims at providing an efficient,
    cost-effective, reliable, safe and accessible
    public transport network which could be
    used as the backbone for an integrated
    public transport solution for the Greater
    Accra Metropolitan area.
    Mr Speaker, the SkyTrain is a proven
    transportation technology with successful
    operations in many countries, including
    Brazil, Bangkok and Dubai. It uses a
    patented air propulsion system that provides
    entirely silent operation; it is low-carbon
    and offers a highly energy-efficient
    operation, using only 17 watts/passenger
    kilometre, which is about three times more
    efficient than a modern diesel bus, despite
    providing high station-to-station speeds. It
    has very limited impact on the environment
    - no noise, no pollution and no congestion, and is, thus, an excellent traffic congestion
    solution in congested urban settings like
    Accra. Since the SkyTrain operates on an
    elevated runway sited above routine traffic
    flows, it has no impact on day-to-day traffic
    flows, unlike other solutions such as Bus
    Rapid Transit (BRT), which contributes to
    traffic congestion. It is designed to operate
    continuously for 24 hours daily and 365
    days per year. Mr Speaker, a world-class
    consortium, led by Ai Capital (“Africa Investor”), came together to jointly develop and implement the Accra SkyTrain system.
    The consortium approached the Ghana
    Infrastructure Investment Fund (GIIF) to
    team up to play the role of the anchor
    Ghanaian investor and the local
    development partner in the project. Upon
    obtaining Board approval, GIIF took up an
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    offer to acquire a 10 per cent equity stake in

    the project development company.

    Mr Speaker, GIIF's role in the arrangement, apart from being an anchor

    investor, included assisting the Ministry of

    Railway Development to coordinate and

    review the entire process to ensure that the

    country's interests are best served always. For example, areas like local shareholding

    and active participation at all levels in the

    project, including employment,

    management and maximum local

    manufacturing of component parts, et

    cetera, are to be ensured.

    Mr Speaker, with regard to the

    implementation of the project, Africa

    Investor, on behalf of the consortium,

    signed an MoU with the Ministry on 22nd

    February, 2018, to enable Africa Investor to

    undertake pre-feasibility studies on the

    project. The pre-feasibility studies were

    undertaken, which revealed positive

    outcomes for the project.

    On 8th November, 2018, the parties then

    entered into a Memorandum of Agreement

    (MoA) in South Africa, the signing of

    which was witnessed by H.E. the President

    of the Republic of Ghana, Nana Addo

    Dankwa Akufo-Addo, and also represented

    by the South African High Commissioner

    and other representatives of the South

    African Government.

    Mr Speaker, the cost of the whole project

    at the time was estimated at US$1.9 billion

    after the initial pre-feasibility studies

    undertaken by Africa Investor. However,

    for a project of this magnitude and

    complexity, a very detailed feasibility study

    was required to form the basis for entering

    into a full concession agreement for its

    development.

    Africa Investor and GIIF were tasked to

    undertake the detailed feasibility study

    within nine months from date of signature

    as per the terms of the MoA to determine

    the feasibility and bankability of the project,

    after which works would have commenced

    by January, 2020.

    Mr Speaker, Africa Investor later

    informed the Ministry that in the light of the

    COVID-19 pandemic and the travel

    restrictions that prevailed at the time, its

    technical team could not have the

    opportunity and was, therefore, unable to

    travel to Ghana to undertake the feasibility

    studies. In this regard, therefore,

    considering the timelines, their financiers

    decided to pull out of the transaction and the

    agreement automatically expired.
    Mr Issifu 12:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister
    alluded in his response that GIIF was
    supposed to play an anchor role and a local
    partner development in this project. In
    paragraph 86 of the Auditor-General's Report, there is a confirmation that GIIF
    acquired an equity share of 10 per cent in
    the project. I would like to find out about
    the state of the 10 per cent equity
    investment GIIF did in the project. Can we
    know clearly what the yield from the 10 per
    cent equity share in the project is?
    Mr Amewu 12:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, as the Hon
    Minister for Railway Development, I am
    entitled to build and develop railways in this
    country. The responsibilities of GIIF go far
    beyond my Ministry, and I have no records
    of the extent or the intention of GIIF getting
    involved in such an interest with such a
    level of participation. That is not the role I
    play at the Ministry of Railway
    Development.
    Mr Issifu 12:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I thought
    because the Hon Minister had a supervisory
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    role over this agency, he would take a keen

    interest in the investment that the GIIF did

    in this project. Having said that, paragraph

    87 of the Auditor-General's Report said that the equity contribution was not certificated

    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:36 p.m.
    Hon
    Member, whose equity contribution is that?
    Mr Issifu 12:36 p.m.
    It is 10 per cent equity
    contribution by the GIIF.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:36 p.m.
    And which
    Agency is that?
    Mr Issifu 12:36 p.m.
    It was not certificated.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:36 p.m.
    Which
    Agency is the GIIF?
    Mr Issifu 12:36 p.m.
    The Ghana Infrastructure
    Investment Fund
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:36 p.m.
    Is it under
    the Ministry of Railway Development? If it
    is not, please ask another question.
    Mr Issifu 12:36 p.m.
    Yes, please.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:47 p.m.
    Is it?
    Mr Issifu 12:47 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, yes.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:47 p.m.
    No, it is not
    under — I thought the Hon Minister said that Agency is not under his Ministry, so he
    cannot answer to what has happened there.
    Kindly ask another question.
    Mr Issifu 12:47 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I thought that as
    a House, we would be interested in what
    this money was used for and what benefits
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:47 p.m.
    Yes, but the
    appropriate Hon Minister responsible
    would be the one to answer the question. If
    you are asked as an Hon Member to answer
    this question, you cannot, neither should we
    ask an Hon Minister who is not responsible
    for an Agency to answer a question on the
    Agency.
    Mr Issifu 12:47 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, my third
    question.
    The Hon Minister is on record to have
    intimated on CitiTV news, a face-to-face
    programme, on 23rd November, 2021 that
    he does not see a SkyTrain being done in the
    next three to four years.
    I would like to find out from the Hon
    Minister if that position is the
    Government's or his personal opinion as the Hon Minister?
    Mr Amewu 12:47 p.m.
    That position stated some
    months ago was my position as the Hon
    Minister for Railway Development.
    Mr Cletus Apul Avoka — rose —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:47 p.m.
    Yes, Hon
    Member for Zebilla?
    Mr Cletus Apul Avoka Thank you, Mr
    Speaker.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister indicated
    that the main reason the project expired was
    because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Now
    that the pandemic is over, would the Hon
    Minister and the Government of Ghana
    consider revisiting this project, which is
    very useful for the people of this country,
    particularly in the Greater Accra Region?
    Mr Amewu 12:47 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I stated earlier
    that this project shows very high level of
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    bankability, and that was the triggering

    factor for the continuation of a detailed

    feasibility studies to extend the level of

    commencement of the project. So, the

    project, as it is, is really a bankable one.

    Mr Speaker, it is also interesting to not

    note that we are not yet out of the pandemic.

    It might seem that we are getting out of it,

    but we are not yet out. The Ministry would,

    of course, have an interest in such a feasible

    and bankable project. We would look at it

    when our situation improves.

    Thank you, Mr Speaker.

    Mr Peter Lanchene Toobu — rose —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:47 p.m.
    Yes, Hon
    Member?
    Mr Peter Lanchene Toobu 12:47 p.m.
    Thank you,
    Mr Speaker. I have a follow-up question.
    Hon Minister, the first case of COVID-

    in Ghana, the first case was on 12th March,

    2018. The feasibility study was supposed to

    last for nine months, ending July 2019. So,

    how could COVID-19 be cited as an excuse

    for the failure of this project?
    Mr Amewu 12:47 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, if I understood
    the Hon Member's question very well, the COVID-19 pandemic, as I stated earlier, is
    an ongoing phenomenon that we have all
    witnessed. A project like I stated in my
    Answer has timelines, and it was during
    those periods that the pandemic struck. The
    pandemic might not have come in 2018 as
    the Hon Member cited, but it affected the
    project's continuation.
    The project, without the pandemic, was
    supposed to have come into place by now,
    but because of the effect of the pandemic,
    other technical details and aspects of the
    project, as spelt out in the project schedule
    could not come into existence, and that is
    why the financiers pulled out of the project,
    which led to the expiration of same.
    Dr Godfred Seidu Jasaw — rose —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:47 p.m.
    Yes, Hon
    Member?
    Dr Godfred Seidu Jasaw 12:47 p.m.
    Thank you,
    Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker, I would like to know what
    other arrangements the Ministry has to
    provide such lofty infrastructure for this
    country since the SkyTrain project has now
    been determined to be a failure?
    Mr Amewu 12:47 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it is an
    undeniable fact that transportation goes a
    long way to trigger the economic benefits of
    this country, and in this current era of high
    fuel prices, it is prudent for any Government
    to use cheaper means of transportation. The
    rail transport has been dedicated as one of
    the most reliable, safe and cheaper means of
    transportation.
    In my Ministry, we have begun an
    aggressive process to see how we can
    improve on rail transportation, especially
    within the urban centres. The Accra-Tema
    rail section that we are all aware of has
    currently undergone a feasibility study to
    upgrade it from its current level of a narrow
    gauge to a standard gauge.
    Mr Speaker, we are making moves to
    increase the transportation from Accra-
    Tema-Nsawam to even as far as Nyinahin
    in Kumasi in the Ashanti Region.
    So, the Ministry has a masterplan, which
    I have already briefed this House on. There
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    is a complete and very aggressive studies

    being down by the Ministry. Works are

    currently ongoing. The Tema-Mpakadan

    project, which was started some years ago,

    has been completed. The Ministry has put

    in place plans to procure two Diesel

    Multiple Units (DMUs) to put on the

    railway line from Tema to Mpakadan to

    continue to transport people along that line,

    by the first quarter of next year.

    Mr Speaker, we have also worked on the

    Accra section of the line. Currently, you

    would witness that a lot of transportation is

    going on between Accra and Tema. We are

    making plans to order some locomotives on

    the section that we are constructing from

    Takoradi down to Nyinahin on that section.

    So, the Ministry has very detailed and

    aggressive plans to improve the

    transportation system.

    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:47 p.m.
    Hon
    Members, it is enough. Thank you for
    attending upon the House to — Yes, Leadership?
    Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu: Mr Speaker, the
    Hon Minister, at the very outset, indicated
    that the project is a bankable one and that
    given the advantages that it offers in public
    transportation, it is intended to revive the
    project.
    If I heard the Hon Minister, he has not
    indicated that this project is a failure. Hon
    Minister, is that the case?
    Mr Amewu 12:47 p.m.
    No! It is a bankable project.
    — [Laughter] —
    Mr Speaker, I did state earlier that the
    project is a bankable one. The feasibility
    studies that have been done show a positive
    outcome with very positive cash-flow. So,
    it is not a project that has failed. It is a very
    bankable project with positive outcomes.
    Mr Ahmed Ibrahim 12:47 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    would not have asked this question, but the
    Hon Majority Leader has paved the way.
    When you invited Leadership, I wanted to
    rise, but the Hon Majority Leader rose first.
    But for that, I would not have spoken after
    him. I thank you for giving me the
    opportunity.
    Hon Minister, when you were asked of
    the timelines and whether it was your
    position or the Government's, you said the timelines and the position you gave earlier
    were yours.
    As the sector Minister, what is the
    Government's position?
    Mr Amewu 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, as an Hon
    Minister, I represent the Government of the
    Republic of Ghana, and I am acting directly
    under H. E. Nana Addo Dankwa Akufo-
    Addo. My position as a Minister represents
    the views of the Government.
    Mr Speaker, I still maintain that, it is not
    possible to construct a skytrain worth over
    US$1.9 billion in three years on two
    grounds: one has to do with the duration,
    and the second, finances. I have just been
    frank. No contractor in this world can finish
    that project. It does not mean the project
    cannot be done. Never have I, on any single
    occasion, stood up to say that project cannot
    be done. What I said, and I still maintain
    today is that it is not possible to do that
    project within that timeline.
    I thank you, Mr Speaker.
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    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Vey well.
    Thank you for attending upon the House to
    answer Questions. You are discharged.
    Hon Members, that brings us to the end
    of Question time for today. We have a
    Statement on the Spillage of Excess Water
    from the Weija Dam; Proposed Measures to
    Contain the Spillage. It will be read by the
    Hon Member for Weija.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Yes, Hon
    Majority Leader?
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    with the greatest respect, you may have to
    discharge the Hon Minister first.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    I have, but
    he was talking to you, and was not paying
    attention. Hon Minister, I have discharged
    you.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:56 p.m.
    All right.
    Mr Speaker, with respect, permit me to
    apply for the order of the agenda set out on
    the Order Paper to be varied to enable us
    present these Papers captured under the
    item numbered 7 before we come back to do
    the Statement. If you would indulge me, I
    would like to do that.
    Mr A. Ibrahim 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, we have no
    objection.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Very well.
    May the order of Business be so varied. I
    would go to the Commencement of Public
    Business, the item numbered 7,
    Presentation of Papers.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    thank you very much.
    Increasingly, these days, when an
    application is made to Mr Speaker that the
    order of Business, as set out on the Order
    Paper be altered, the Speaker would ask the
    Minority Side if they would indulge. With
    the greatest of respect, the application is to
    the Speaker.
    Mr Speaker, Standing Order 53(2)
    provides:
    “By leave of Mr. Speaker, the Order of Business set out in the Order
    Paper may be altered on any
    particular day.”
    Just like the admissibility of Questions, it
    rests with the Speaker. It is not a shared
    responsibility for the Speaker to then ask
    the Minority Side whether they accept it,
    and they would say they have nothing
    against it. If they say they have something
    against it, it means I would be estopped, but
    that is not the intendment of Standing Order
    53(2). Mr Speaker, you are clothed with the
    authority, and solely responsible — that is it so, I would go on.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Thank you
    for drawing our attention to what we know
    already. Hon Majority Leader, you would
    know that it is not provided for in the rules
    that we have pre-Sitting meetings, but we
    do because we want to assure smoothness of
    Business. Once we agree on something at
    the pre-Sitting meeting, I would vary it only
    if the other Side does not have any
    objection. It does not take away my
    responsibility or my rule; it is just to ensure
    that Business of the House is run smoothly,
    but I thank you for drawing my attention to
    Standing Order 53(2).
    Now, you may lay the Papers.
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    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    my worry is that I know, reading from the
    forehead of my Hon Colleague who is
    sitting opposite me, —[Laughter]— he may be assuming some airs which he would not
    be entitled to.
    Mr Speaker, I would present the Paper
    captured in the item numbered 7(a) —
    Mr Ahmed Ibrahim —rose—
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Before you
    go ahead, you mentioned the name of the
    Hon First Deputy Minority Whip, and even
    referred to his forehead. He would like to
    respond. [Laughter].
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    no name has been mentioned on the Floor.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Well,
    innuendos are admissible.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    the Hon Member for Zebilla, Mr Cletus
    Apul Avoka is here. The Speaker, the Rt
    Hon Justice Annan, under a similar
    situation then, said: “If the cap fits you, wear it”, and we moved on. I am not sure if my Hon Colleague is wearing a cap, and the
    cap does not fit him, so we could move on.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    I am glad
    that you referred to the Speaker of the First
    and Second Parliaments. His rulings are not
    binding on the Eighth Parliament — [Laughter]—
    Mr A. Ibrahim 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, you are
    perfectly right. There is a saying that when
    old bones are mentioned, old women feel
    very uneasy so, when “forehead” was mentioned, I was very uneasy— [Laughter]— and you recognised me.
    Mr Speaker, we are learning as a House,
    and the Hon Majority Leader said,
    “increasingly”; it means it has not just begun. When I entered Parliament 14 years
    ago, when applications were made, the
    other Side of the House was always called
    upon to show consent. Speakers have been
    doing this to carry the whole House along.
    The Hon Majority Leader may be right; he
    quoted the Standing Orders. However, just
    as Mr Speaker said, we have practices and
    conventions which we have added to the
    Standing Orders and the Constitution to
    govern this House.
    Mr Speaker, —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Hon First
    Deputy Minority Whip, I thought you were
    going to talk about your forehead, but as for
    going over what I ruled upon already —
    Mr A. Ibrahim 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, you are
    right. Just as I said, we are all in the learning
    process. We just want Hon Members to
    know that beyond the Constitution and the
    Standing Orders, we have parliamentary
    practices and conventions, and that is why
    you called us to show our consent.
    I thank you very much.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Since you
    have no comment on your forehead, let us
    proceed.
    Hon Majority Leader, the item numbered
    7(a)(i).
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    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    It is to be
    referred to the Finance Committee. Am I
    right?
    Mr A. Ibrahim 12:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it is to be
    referred to the Committee on Poverty
    Reduction Strategy.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:56 p.m.
    Is it to be
    referred to the Committee on Poverty
    Reduction Strategy?
    Mr Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:56 p.m.
    Mr
    Speaker, it should be referred to the Finance
    Committee. If you like, we could just add
    the leadership of the Committee on Poverty
    Reduction Strategy.
    Mr Speaker, as we have been talking
    about, if we had a Committee on the
    Economy, replicating the National
    Development Planning Commission
    (NDPC), this would have been in its remit.
    Unfortunately, we do not have it, so it
    should go to the Finance Committee, and
    the leadership of the Committee on Poverty
    Reduction Strategy, because after all, the
    Ministry is the Ministry of Finance and
    Economic Planning.
    Mr A. Ibrahim 1:06 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon
    Majority Leader is right. It should be
    referred to the Finance Committee, and the
    leadership of the Committee on Poverty
    Reduction Strategy. If it would not be too
    much, because it is an agenda for jobs, the
    leadership of the Committee on
    Employment, Social Welfare and State
    Enterprises could be added.
    They are just two each; Just the
    Leadership — [Interruption]—
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Very well.
    Mr Benson Tongo Baba — rose —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Yes, Hon
    Member for Talensi?
    Mr Benson Tongo Baba 1:06 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    the Committee on Poverty Reduction
    Strategy has been working with the NDPC
    so, it would be better for us also to be part
    of the consideration of such an important
    Paper which has been laid before the House.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Let me be
    clear on the number of Committees
    mentioned so far. We have the Finance
    Committee, Committee on Poverty
    Reduction Strategy, and Committee on
    Employment and Social Welfare
    Committees.
    Very well, the order is all made.
    Referred to the Finance Committee, the
    Committee on Poverty Reduction Strategy
    and the leadership of the Committee on
    Employment, Social Welfare and State
    Enterprises.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Hon
    Members, we now move on to the item
    numbered 7(a)(ii)
    By the Majority Leader—
    (ii) Annual Report and Financial
    Statements of the Bank of
    Ghana for the Year 2021.
    Referred to the Finance Committee.
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    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Hon
    Majority Leader, are we ready with the item
    numbered 7(b)?
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:06 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    the Annual Report and Financial Statements
    of the Bank of Ghana for the Year 2021
    should be referred to the Finance
    Committee.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    We have
    done that, but I am asking whether we are
    ready for the item numbered 7(b), which is
    supposed to be laid by the Minister for
    Finance.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:06 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    respectfully, I could present the Papers on
    behalf of the Minister for Finance, but
    before we get there, my attention has been
    drawn to the fact that over the years, the
    Medium-Term National Development
    Agenda has always been referred to the
    Committee on Poverty Reduction Strategy
    so rather, the vice versa should hold. The
    Committee — [Interruption] — I am saying that the referral should go to Committee on
    Poverty Reduction Strategy and maybe, the
    leadership of the Finance Committee and
    the Committee on Employment, Social
    Welfare and State Enterprises should join
    them.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Very well, I
    had earlier referred it to the Finance
    Committee, the Committee on Poverty
    Reduction Strategy and the leadership of the
    Committee on Employment, Social Welfare
    and State Enterprises so probably, we
    should remove the Finance Committee and
    rather retain the Leadership of the Finance
    Committee. Is that right?
    Very well, I will vary my order. The item
    numbered 7(a)(i) is referred to the
    Committee on Poverty Reduction Strategy
    and the leadership of the Finance
    Committee and the Committee on
    Employment, Social Welfare and State
    Enterprises. I so direct.
    Referred to the Committee on Poverty
    Reduction Strategy and the leadership of
    the Finance Committee and the Committee
    on Employment, Social Welfare and State
    Enterprises.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Now, let us
    move on to the item numbered 7(b) (i) and
    (ii).
    By the Majority Leader and Minister for
    Parliamentary Affairs (Mr Osei Kyei-
    Mensah-Bonsu on behalf of the Minister for
    Finance)—
    (i) Request for waiver of Import Duty, Import VAT, Import
    NHIL, Import GETFund Levy,
    EXIM Levy, COVID-19 Levy
    and Special Import Levy
    amounting to the Ghana Cedi
    equivalent of four million, four
    hundred and one thousand, four
    hundred and forty-seven dollars,
    and twelve cents
    (US$4,401,447.12) on materials,
    equipment, machinery and
    services to be procured for the
    provision of sports infrastructure
    and residential facilities for the
    hosting and organisation of the
    13th African Games to be held in
    Accra in 2023 by Consar Limited.
    (ii) Request for waiver of Import Duty, Import VAT, NHIL,
    GETFund Levy, EXIM Levy,
    COVID-19 Levy and Special
    Import Levy amounting to the
    Ghana Cedi equivalent of two
    million, three hundred and forty-
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    one thousand, and fifty-six

    dollars, and fourteen cents

    (US$2,341,056.14) on materials,

    equipment, machinery and

    services to be procured for the

    provision of sports infrastructure

    and residential facilities for the

    hosting and organisation of the 13th

    African Games to be held in Accra

    in 2023 by Mawums Limited.

    Referred to the Finance Committee.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Is the Finance
    Committee ready to present the other Reports?
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:06 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    am not too sure of it. The other day, I was
    informed that the Committee had not
    concluded their discussions, so I think we can
    stand those in respect of the item numbered
    7(c) down.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Very well, so
    the item numbered 7(c) is deferred.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:06 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    guess we could go back, and then deal with
    Statements.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:06 p.m.
    Very well. I
    have one Statement to be read by the Hon
    Member for the Weija Gbawe Constituency.
    Hon Deputy Minister for Health, you may
    read your Statement.
    STATEMENTS 1:06 p.m.

    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:17 p.m.
    Very well.
    Mr Rockson-Nelson Etse Kwami
    Dafeamekpor (NDC — South Dayi): Mr Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity to
    add my voice to the Statement made by my
    Sister, the Hon Deputy Minister for Health.
    Mr Speaker, spillage in any form has
    consequences — consequences for farmlands, residential settlements, and
    infrastructural development. As we speak,
    the spillage from the Bagre Dam in Burkina
    Faso, relatedly, has had an adverse impact
    on the volume of the lake in the Volta Dam,
    so much that for the first time in 11 years,
    the Volta River Authority (VRA) has
    programmed spillage of the excess water in
    the Akosombo Dam and the Kpong Dam.
    Mr Speaker, that spillage would again
    have effect on the communities downstream
    of these two dams. Therefore, as a country,
    we need to have a programme regarding
    such emergencies because of these
    programmed spillages. The spillage that my
    Hon Sister speaks of has had adverse
    consequences for the people around Tetegu
    and its environs.
    Mr Speaker, two weeks ago, if you saw
    the pictures and video coverage, residential
    homes that for about 20 years had not
    experienced any form of flood suddenly
    roofed deep in the excess water that was
    released from the dam — and it called for emergency preparedness to meet the needs
    of the people. Therefore, it is such an
    important Statement; ever so often, we hear
    Statements regarding emergencies that
    strike our communities in the country, rush
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    to the Chamber, and call the attention of the

    House to it. However, it appears that when

    the Statements are made, due to effluxion of

    time, we forget about how to resolve the

    crisis.

    Mr Speaker, therefore, I agree with my

    Hon Sister that that dam being such a

    strategic source for other things, including

    provision of two-thirds the percentage of

    water to the Greater Accra conurbation, it is

    important that we have a programmed

    spillage yearly so that we do not wait for

    excessive rainfall for other inflow from

    other streams upstream of the river to be

    able to spill.

    Mr Speaker, the other thing I would like

    to speak of, related to this Statement, is the

    fact that our planning officers who work

    with our District Assemblies and are

    mandated by law to ensure that zoning and

    development projects take place in

    accordance with the land use practice of the

    areas must also be adhered to. This is

    because if one goes to build on the levee of

    the dam, downstream, and there is a spillage

    in emergency times, certainly, he would be

    affected. When he is affected, he then cries

    for help, and if the help does not come, he

    blames the Government. Therefore, our

    planning officers who are statutorily

    mandated to ensure that our planning, the

    land use, regulations, and laws of our

    country work a should also do their duty;

    everybody; should do his or her duty. Then,

    I believe that we can have a very sound

    country to manage.

    Mr Speaker, with these words, I

    commend my Hon Sister for bringing this

    matter once more to the attention of the

    House. Disaster in any form that affects our

    people should concern all of us wherever

    they occur.

    I thank you for the opportunity.

    Mr Kwabena Okyere Darko-Mensah

    — rose —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:17 p.m.
    Where is the
    Hon Member for Abuakwa South, Mr
    Samuel Atta Akyea? I recall that most of the
    time, when such matters come up, he would
    say, “Move out of harm's way”. Surprisingly, we find people who actually
    build in harm's way. Then they come back to cry.
    Yes, Hon Regional Minister, do you want
    to say something?
    Mr Kwabena Okyere Darko-Mensah
    (NPP — Takoradi): Mr Speaker, I thank you and also the maker of the Statement for
    bringing to the Floor a major issue that
    affects her constituency. In fact, the last
    sentence before she thanked you was,
    “…and also having to play the blame game”, and I think that is very instructive. I remember, when I mentioned some time
    ago that people who live in flood-prone
    areas should have a plan B, I was insulted
    throughout the country until people saw
    reason and started defending me.
    Mr Speaker, like you are aware, people
    continue to build around the Weija Dam
    even though they know it is a problem,
    putting lives in harm's way. I believe that it is time that Ghanaians had a plan C, where
    when we make our hard-earned cedis, we do
    not rent or build houses in flood-prone
    areas. That should be our plan C. Until we
    start advising ourselves properly this way,
    we would continue to have floods in flood-
    prone areas because for a dam like the
    Weija Dam, any time it floods, they have to
    open it up and spill the excess water, and,
    definitely, it would affect people.
    Therefore, I believe that the suggestion that
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    has come from the Hon Member who made

    the Statement that we need to dredge the

    spillways is something that we have to take

    seriously, and I believe that the Ministry of

    Water and Sanitation would do whatever it

    takes to start dredging; at least, if we do a

    little this year, we could do another one next

    year, so that by the time we have the

    consequences of flooding and we need to

    open up the spillways, we would be in a

    good stead to protect lives and property.

    I believe that this issue should not be

    about only the dam in Weija. For all other

    dams in the country that are likely to affect

    life and property, we need to find a new way

    of making sure that we take on the advice

    given by the Hon Member who made of the

    Statement.

    Mr Speaker, I thank you for the

    opportunity to add my voice.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:27 p.m.
    Very well. I
    will admit the last one and bring
    proceedings to a close.
    Mr Kwame Governs Agbodza (NDC
    — Adaklu): Mr Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity to speak to this very
    important Statement made by our Hon
    Colleague. First of all, I would like to
    sympathise with all those who have been
    affected by the current spillage of the dam.
    Mr Speaker, a few weeks ago, on my way
    to Kumasi by flight, I was looking down — when one takes off, one can see the level — in fact, it was as if some people were
    building in water because the distance
    between where they were and the sea is not
    that much. Therefore, I could understand
    that lives and property were under threat.
    Mr Speaker, however, do we need the
    dam or not? We need it, and every single
    dam that has been built in this world is built
    to contain a certain volume of water. Sadly,
    it is not human beings who fill this type of
    dams with water. It receives water from
    somewhere. That is why there is a spillway,
    and if one were in a plane and looked down,
    it would look as if people were building in
    the spillway. That is the bottom line, but it
    is a normal thing in this country. We all do
    the wrong things, and then we want
    sympathy later. We build at Ramsar sites,
    and then we expect Government to go and
    regularise it later and say that we are all
    right.
    Mr Speaker, if one goes to Tema Ramsar
    site today, in the full glare of the Tema
    Metropolitan Assembly, people dump
    waste to fill the Ramsar site, and while they
    continue dumping, it gives the place the
    semblance of a solid ground, and people
    continue building.

    Mr Speaker, I was not surprised to see

    our Hon Colleague, the Greater-Accra

    Regional Minister, Mr Henry Quartey, in a

    meeting with people in the past. He was

    doing the right thing, demolishing the

    buildings because the people were building

    in a well-protected site. Now, he has been

    forced to say that he would not continue the

    demolishing, and people are jubilating in

    the area saying that the Hon Regional

    Minister is coming to regularise illegalities

    they have carried out in the past. Who is

    going to stop the people from adhering to

    the law?

    Mr Speaker, we need water in the Weija

    Dam. We wished people actually knew

    where the spillway is and are not allowed to

    build there under any circumstances so that

    these stories do not come up. No amount of

    Statements on this Floor would stop the

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    Weija Dam from being spilt in the future

    because every dam would have to be spilt

    when it gets beyond its capacity. Otherwise,

    it would cause more problems, or the dam

    could collapse and all the water goes away.

    Mr Speaker, my Hon Colleague already

    said that the planning and city authorities

    need to be more proactive. Those buildings

    did not spring up in a day. People saw them

    building gradually. In fact, what is the size

    of a building block? One would need

    thousands of blocks to put up a building;

    hence, when the District Assembly looks on

    doing nothing and probably taking some

    money from the people and it gets here, then

    our poor Hon Sister and Colleague becomes

    somebody who is supposed to solve this

    problem.

    Mr Speaker, I believe we need to do this.

    Is it the case that the laws that we give to

    our local authorities are not strong enough

    to stop these kinds of illegalities? It is

    difficult to speak about this when you know

    that people's properties have been damaged. In fact, I have a friend who is

    thinking of selling his house in the area and

    move somewhere else. I asked this friend if

    he was sure somebody is going to be like

    him to buy that house or he is going to sell

    it during the dry season, and he laughed. He

    has put his lifelong savings into that

    property, and now he has not got anything

    in his room. His sofa and everything have

    been destroyed.

    Mr Speaker, I believe we can do better

    than we are doing now. We should let this

    kind of Statement urge us on to do the right

    thing and to know that when we build in a

    Ramsar site, it is an illegality. Under no

    circumstance should we wake up one day

    and expect that because we need a place to

    sleep, the Government should regularise it

    for us. If we do that, one day, someone

    would build at the Accra Sports Stadium

    and expect that he or she should be allowed

    to keep the house on the pitch. This is the

    situation we have now. Nature is not the

    reason people's homes are flooded. It is because we breached the law. If we do

    things right, we could avoid all these.

    With these few words, once again, I

    sympathise with the victims, and I urge all of

    us to endeavour to do the right thing to

    minimise this sort of damage in our

    communities.

    Mr Speaker, I thank you for the

    opportunity.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:27 p.m.
    Very well.
    Unless the Leadership of the House wants
    to comment, I would bring this to a close.
    All right, let me listen to the Hon Regional
    Minister who is removing Ramsar site -
    Minister for Greater-Accra Region (Mr Henry Quartey) (MP) 1:27 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I thank
    you for the opportunity, and I would like to
    comment on the Statement ably made by My
    Hon Colleague from the other Side.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:27 p.m.
    Hon
    Member, for the record, the Statement was
    made by your Hon Colleague, the Hon
    Deputy Minister for Health and Hon
    Member of Parliament for Weija Gbawe on
    the Weija Dam.
    Mr Quartey 1:27 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would like
    to react to the contribution made by my Hon
    Colleague on the other Side of the aisle.
    Mr Speaker, if my Hon Colleague, Mr
    Agbodza, cares to know, indeed, over
    decades, it has become the practice of chiefs
    and other persons to occupy Government
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    lands. This means lands that have been

    acquired by an Executive Instrument (EI).

    Mr Speaker, successive Governments

    including the Government of my own Hon

    Colleague on the other Side have attempted

    to curtail this practice, and it has not

    worked. Under the able leadership of His

    Excellency the President, the Commander-

    in-Chief of the Ghana Armed Forces, Nana

    Addo, Dankwa Akufo-Addo upon

    assumption of office, I took it upon myself

    with the blessings of the Presidency, as it

    were, to embark on what I call “Let us make Greater Accra work”, which hinges on five pillars. One of them is the indiscipline that

    is almost taking over the country and for

    that matter the capital city, Greater Accra,

    as a whole.

    Mr Speaker, indeed Greater-Accra is a

    cosmopolitan region; so, day in and day out,

    we have people coming in and out.

    Therefore, managing the numbers is very

    difficult. My Hon Colleague would agree

    with me that everybody would like to

    sojourn into the Region to make ends meet.

    So, sometimes, it is difficult to manage

    these things but that is aside.

    Mr Speaker, I would like to give you a

    background, and I would start with the

    Centre for Scientific and Industrial

    Research (CSIR). I have noticed that there

    have been some comparisons between the

    exercise at the Ramsar sites and that of

    CSIR. CSIR, as we all know, is an agency -
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:27 p.m.
    Hon
    Minister, the Statement was on the spillage
    of excess water from the Weija Dam and
    then the Hon Member for Adaklu, Mr
    Agbodza, waged into the problem of people
    illegally constructing buildings at places
    they do not have to. That is the problem, and
    those people are asking for sympathy
    afterwards.
    Mr Quartey 1:27 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, my Hon
    Colleague is saying that we should not
    regularise it, and I would like to build a
    point.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:27 p.m.
    What the
    Hon Member was saying is that people do
    the wrong things, and then they turn around
    and ask for regularisation -
    Mr Quartey 1:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I agree with
    you. However, I believe I needed to build a
    point because it has been an argument going
    on, and this is a fine opportunity and
    platform. This is a House of records.
    Mr Speaker, on the issue of Ramsar sites,
    Ghana signed onto the Ramsar Convention
    and in the year 1998, it ratified it. Portions
    of lands that were originally acquired for
    the Tema Harbour and its extension were
    ceded for Ramsar and that measures about
    10km square which is about 3500 acres or
    more. Over the last two decades or more,
    under successive Governments, people
    have encroached with impunity on the 3500
    acres of land acquired by EI for the
    purposes of Ramsar.
    Mr Speaker, currently, we have a buffer;
    a core zone. Interestingly, people have built
    on over 2225 acres of land, and if we are to
    do the mathematics, hitherto, an acre of land
    is about a 100 feet, by 100 feet multiplied
    by four but these days, we are doing six
    plots to an acre. Therefore, if my
    mathematics is right, about 18,000 plots of
    land have been encroached upon. People
    have built homes and live in them as we
    speak.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister for Lands
    and Natural Resources had a stakeholder
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    engagement with the residents there.

    Interestingly, they have formed a landlords' association. Although, they have

    encroached upon the land, they have

    residents' associations and presidents. An engagement was made and the Hon

    Minister for Lands and Natural Resources

    thought it wise that these people have

    already encroached, so the core area was

    reduced from 10km square to 8km square.

    In the months of June and July when I

    visited the place, lands measuring about

    50/100 acres were bare, only for me to go

    there last week to realise that over 100

    fenced walls have sprung up.

    Mr Speaker, we embarked on the

    exercise in three phases. Phase one was to

    remove all the fence walls that were

    erected; which we have done successfully

    with the collaboration of National Security

    and other Security and Intelligence

    Agencies. There were a lot of calls,

    comments and propaganda being spewed

    around the exercise. Therefore, two days

    ago, we engaged the stakeholders and made

    it known to them that our focus is on

    buildings and fence walls that have been

    erected in the core zone; in the water itself.

    We are talking about 102 fence walls and

    about 189 buildings. However, the good

    thing is that so far nobody is living in any of

    these buildings.

    Mr Speaker, we would want to make sure

    that we are at the right side of the law.

    Therefore, I met with them and the directive

    was that we are now backtracking to

    suspend the demolishing exercise, so that

    the technocrats from the Ministry of Lands

    and Natural Resources and the Forestry

    Commission would go in there and do

    proper work for us to know for a fact those

    who are in the core area. We are told that

    the core area should be five (5) metres

    above sea level. So, that is what we are

    waiting for.

    Mr Speaker, in three weeks' time, we would go back and receive a report through

    the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural

    Resources. Once the report comes, we

    would have another stakeholder

    engagement and take it up from there.

    Mr Speaker, talking about the

    regularisation, currently as we speak, there

    are over 4,000 homes on the 2,225 acres of

    Government land that have been

    encroached upon. Interestingly, as my Hon

    Good Friend knows, they have not

    contributed to the development of this

    country by way of taxes, and they have also

    not paid property rate over the last 20 years;

    that in itself is a criminal offence, and my

    Hon Brother knows that for a fact. So, what

    do we do? Under the current

    circumstances—

    Mr Oscar Ofori Larbi — rose —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:36 p.m.
    Hon
    Minister, kindly hold on.
    Hon Member for Aowin, you may kindly
    speak.
    Mr Oscar Ofori Larbi 1:36 p.m.
    On a point of
    order.
    Mr Speaker, I rise on Order 70 (2). With
    your permission, I read:
    “A Minister of State may make an announcement or a statement of
    government policy. Any such
    announcement or statement should
    be limited to facts which it is deemed
    necessary to make known to the
    House and should not be designed to
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    provoke debate at this stage. Any

    Member may comment briefly,

    subject to the same limitation.”

    Mr Speaker, what the Hon Minister

    sought to do— it is as if he has his own Statement to make on the floor of the

    House - [Hear! Hear!] - and I disagree with that.
    Mr Quartey 1:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, as you
    could see, I am not reading a
    Statement.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:36 p.m.
    Hon
    Minister, actually, the Hon Member
    for Aowin is right. The Statement
    was about spillage. An Hon Member
    can make a comment, which is an
    aside. However, you are taking
    advantage to make a long speech.
    You could bring your own Statement
    to explain what is happening on the
    Ramsar site. [Hear! Hear!] However,
    I think that you have said enough for
    now. Kindly bring your contribution
    to a close in not more than one
    minute.
    Mr Quartey 1:36 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, thank
    you very much for the opportunity. I
    was only commenting on the
    contribution that was made by my
    Hon Colleague on the other Side.
    Mr Speaker, I am well advised. I
    would come properly. Thank you
    very much.
    An Hon Member — rose —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:47 p.m.
    Hon
    Member, please it is time for the Leadership
    to also contribute to the Statement. Your
    constituency is not flooded yet.
    First Deputy Minority Whip (Mr
    Ahmed Ibrahim): Mr Speaker, thank you
    very much for the opportunity.
    Mr Speaker, before I proceed, I must
    commend the Hon Member who made the
    Statement. Even though she is an Hon
    Deputy Minister, she made the Statement as
    the Hon Member representing the good
    people of that constituency.
    Mr Speaker, when we look at what
    happened and listen to the Statement that
    has just been read on the floor of the House,
    the Statement has just satisfied the Order
    which was quoted by my good Hon
    Colleague seated behind me. The Statement
    is full of facts, concise and with
    recommendations.
    Mr Speaker, in the Statement, the Hon
    Member was able to identify the causes of
    the spillage and flooding, and she has
    provided recommendations on how best we
    could help to fight it. The Statement
    presupposes that the harm that was caused
    was self-inflicted. Why do we open flood
    gates without making sure that the channel
    or estuary that the water would pass before
    entering the sea is drenched?
    Mr Speaker, so if we read the Statement
    carefully, what the Hon Member said is that
    the estuary was choked, and even though we
    have never opened five gates, five gates
    were opened at a go without due diligence
    to see whether the estuary was also opened,
    so that water from the spillages could enter
    the sea. That was what caused the flood.
    Mr Speaker, on a very serious note, who
    was in charge of making sure that the water
    level does not go beyond sustainable limit?
    Who was in charge of opening all the five
    gates without due diligence? Such people
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    must have questions to answer so that the

    next time when somebody performs that

    duty, he or she would bear in mind what

    could happen when the duty is performed

    without due diligence, and would thus

    check that the estuary is clear before

    opening it. If that is not done, and we

    comment on it and allow it to pass, the same

    thing might happen again tomorrow.

    Mr Speaker, secondly, the Hon Member

    also said that the Densu River must be

    desilted. These are matters that the Hon

    Ministers for Works and Housing, and

    Sanitation and Water Resources have been

    talking about. The Ministry of Works and

    Housing used to perform the function of

    desilting choked gutters in such areas.

    However, these days, when the Ministry

    mentions this, it seems that the Hon

    Minister for Finance does not listen to them.

    Therefore, the function of the Hon Minister

    for Works and Housing, is reduced to only

    distributing Government bungalows.

    [Laughter]-- However, they have a serious responsibility in making sure that they are

    given budgetary allocation to desilt choked

    gutters. We have seen the harm that was

    caused by just one choked estuary.

    Mr Speaker, without wasting much time,

    I must once again commend the Hon

    Member who made the Statement and to

    entreat the Hon Minister for Works and

    Housing to liaise with the Hon Member

    who made the Statement, together with the

    Hon Minister for Finance, because we are

    about to enter the Budget season. As we

    speak now, the whole world is at Egypt. We

    are going for a climate change conference;

    the climate change implementation must

    take place in Ghana. We must increase the

    budgetary allocation for the Ministry for

    Works and Housing to make sure that the

    Densu River and the estuary are dredged, so

    that next year when it is rainy season and

    the dam is full to the brim, we would not

    encounter what just happened in Ghana

    when the dam is opened.

    Mr Speaker, we used to watch these

    things happen in parts of Lousiana and

    Florida where floods destroy peoples' houses. However, this time, it is in our own

    land. It did not just begin in a day. We have

    performed our duty as Hon Members of

    Parliament: The Land Use and Spatial

    Planning Act, 2016 (Act 925) ; Zoning of

    areas for residential, industrial and

    commercial purposes, and the Land Bill,

    2019 were passed in this House. We have

    the laws to regulate every activity in this

    country.

    Mr Speaker, Kwame Nkrumah

    University of Science and Technology

    (KNUST) has the Faculty of Planning and

    Land Economy. We have all the relevant

    degrees, only to come to sit down without

    doing what we are supposed to do, and we

    are being flooded.

    Mr Speaker, before I conclude, I would

    like to call upon the Hon Minister for

    Finance — we should be minded that this is spillage. can one imagine if the Weija Dam

    had collapsed? Can we count the number of

    deaths, harm and havoc that it would have

    caused? Therefore, as a country, we must be

    proactive. We should not just pretend to be

    managing the problem; rather, we must start

    fixing it before the problems overtake us.

    Mr Speaker, I thank you for the
    Mr Second Deputy Speaker 1:56 p.m.
    Yes, Hon
    Majority Leader?
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    Majority Leader (Mr Osei Kyei-

    Mensah-Bonsu): Mr Speaker, let me also

    express my appreciation to the Hon

    Member who made this Statement and drew

    our attention to the danger caused by the

    spillage of the waters in the Weija dam.

    Mr Speaker, the Hon Member who is also

    an Hon Deputy Minister, attributed the

    danger that was caused by the spillage to

    about three or four factors. She mentions the

    heavy siltation of the main water course of

    the Densu River. Beyond the dam, it is

    heavily silted, the siltation continues to the

    extreme. Where siltation occurs at the

    estuary of any river that enters the sea, if it

    is natural, what it means is that the river

    would be silting up to cause the formation

    of a delta — that is what it is. If it is natural, then we would see the formation of a delta

    at the estuary. Except, in this case, we all

    know that the siltation is not due to natural

    forces of the sand carried from the

    headwaters of the river down through the

    main water course and channel into the sea,

    where, because of the force of entering the

    sea, and the sea also repelling the water, the

    waters are forced to still and during the

    stillness of the water, deposition takes place

    — then we have natural siltation at the estuary which ultimately would develop

    into a delta.

    Mr Speaker, what is happening is man-

    made. The cause of the siltation, really, is

    attributable to other factors including, as the

    Hon Member has owned up to, building

    very close to the waterway. Then we have

    all manner of household excrement entering

    the water body and then contributing to the

    siltation of the waterway.

    Mr Speaker, the Hon Deputy Minority

    Whip related to the land use and spatial

    planning programmes that we have and

    even the Land Use and Spatial Planning

    Act, 2016 (Act 925). During the times we

    were growing up, for large rivers, one could

    not — even farmers were required to leave a minimum of 100 yards — about 300 feet from either side of the main rivers — the Offin and the Pra. For the streams, it was

    100 feet, but now, there is scant regard for

    this law, and it is all because we have

    persons who now have — they claim ownership of these lands, the contiguous

    lands to the river channels and begins to sell

    them.

    Mr Speaker, I have always insisted that if

    the sale of lands is left unchecked in the

    hands of individuals as we are doing now,

    we would cause serious problems for

    ourselves including even attracting

    investments.

    Mr Speaker, I believe the time has come

    for us to confront reality. The Hon Member

    was talking about — maybe if we resorted to gradual spillage of the dam. This year, the

    rainfall pattern changed and the year has

    seen tremendous downpours of rain. Added

    to the fact that the water itself is silting up,

    indeed, the Weija Dam itself is silting up,

    and we are not desilting. This is why it had

    to happen the way it happened for the five

    gates to be opened for the spillage to occur.

    Mr Speaker, the people downstream at

    the time of the construction of the dam

    knew that in the event — perish that thought— that the dam collapsed, all of them would be swept off. So, those lands

    behind the dam leading up to the sea were

    marked out about half a kilometre across

    that nobody should build, but we are

    building there. Sadly, we do not want to

    face the consequence if these things should

    happen. Is the Government blameable? It is

    not Government; it is the individuals and

    the people who are selling those lands.

    When one goes to buy those lands knowing

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    that they may be subject to such a

    consequence, yet they build there in the

    hope that flooding would never occur in

    their lifetime.

    Mr Speaker, sometimes, we allow these

    things to happen to us because we call for it.

    We are not supposed to build close to a

    major river such as the Densu. We are to

    keep a distance of about 200 metres or 100

    metres but we go as close as maybe 50 feet

    and we want to build, maybe, an

    embankment to protect us. What would an

    embankment of 100 feet do for one? What

    of those upstream who have not done the

    same thing? It would climb and enter the

    place. So, we should be very serious about

    the land use and spatial planning schemes

    that we have.

    Mr Speaker, we should also begin to

    desilt the dam itself. Otherwise, at the least

    downpour, we have to open the gates to

    allow for these spillages.

    Mr Speaker, as for the suggestion that — let us say, every year we open the dam once

    or twice before the unthinkable happens — we cannot predict. This is because the

    weather system is such that one cannot

    predict what could happen next year. You

    might spill massively and there would be

    drought the following year. What happens

    in such a situation? I remember about 10

    years or so ago, the Akosombo Dam was

    spilt, and we experienced drought the

    following year --[Laughter.]-- We spilt massively and experienced drought the

    following year. Did the Hon Deputy

    Minority Leader, go to pray, when that

    happened? As if the prayer would fill the

    dam for us.

    Mr Speaker, we must admit that the water

    pattern has changed. It has become very

    erratic, and that is why as my Hon

    Colleague said, as of now, many of our

    compatriots, our Hon Colleagues are in

    Egypt, and they are thinking through what

    it is that nations must think through to

    ameliorate the weather conditions. Here in

    Ghana, we must take ourselves seriously.

    Mr Speaker, I keep saying this and

    repeating myself — Burkina Faso is growing trees down south and up north in

    Ghana, we are cutting down the few trees

    that we have such that the southern portion

    of Burkina Faso is now greener than the

    northern portion of Ghana. What do we

    expect? The weather becomes very

    unpredictable; rainfall patterns change

    dramatically, and when they come — It does not rain in the Sahara Desert but when

    it rains on one occasion, they come with

    such torrents that they sweep the sand, and

    the dews are swept to distances - sometimes, for about 10 kilometres, a whole

    dew may be swept away. That is what we

    are encouraging in Ghana; we should take

    ourselves seriously and address our minds

    and ourselves to the changing weather

    pattern in Ghana —
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:56 p.m.
    Hon
    Majority Leader, I am resisting the
    temptation to extend Sitting beyond 2:00
    p.m. but you have not finished, so —
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:56 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I
    see that you are entreating me to end so I
    will end. - [Laughter] - I think that we should be thankful to the Hon Member for
    drawing attention to this, but the
    ramifications are enormous. Let us consider
    them and then see what we can do to
    repackage ourselves as a nation in terms of
    greening our country to control the
    unpredictability of the weather and also
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    ensure that we conform to our land use and

    spatial planning schemes.

    Mr Speaker, I thank you very much for

    the opportunity.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:56 p.m.
    Very well.
    That brings us to the end of Statements. I
    think the lessons to take away from this is
    that if one places him or herself in harm's way, he or she should not come back and
    seek that we empathise with him or her.
    Hon Members, it is 2:00 p.m. - unless there are any announcements by the
    Leadership, I wish to bring Proceedings to
    an end.
    ADJOURNMENT 1:56 p.m.