Debates of 8 Feb 2006

MR. SPEAKER
PRAYERS

CORRECTION OF VOTES

AND PROCEEDINGS AND

THE OFFICIAL REPORT

Mr. Speaker
Order! Order! Correction of Votes and Proceedings of Tuesday, 7th February 2006. Pages 1 . . . 9? . . . [Pause] - [No correction was made in the Votes and Proceedings of Tuesday, 1st February, 2006] We have the Official Report for Wednesday 1st February, 2006. If you have any omission you may wish to bring them to the attention of the Table.
Item - 3 - Questions, is the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning in the House?
Majority Leader/Minister for Parliamentary Affairs (Mr. F. K. Owusu-Adjapong)
Mr. Speaker, I want to crave your indulgence to allow the Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning to answer the Question on behalf of the Minister.
Mr. Speaker
Question 174, Hon. Herod Cobbina, Member of Parliament for -
Mr. D. T. Assumeng
Mr. Speaker, please, I want to draw your attention to Order 48 (1) and with your permission I quote:
“The presence of at least one-third of all the Members of Parliament
beside the person presiding shall be necessary to constitute a quorum of the House.”
Mr. Speaker
Hon. Member for Shai/ Osudoku, you have raised an interesting point; let us wait for the next ten minutes and see.
Mr. Assumeng
Thank you Mr.
Mr. Speaker
Hon. Members, we have
ten minutes. Now it is about nine minutes but in the meantime we may wish to proceed and after ten minutes if we do not have a quorum then we will know what to do. Hon. Member for Sefwi Akontombra, you may ask your Question.
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS

MINISTRY OF FINANCE AND

ECONOMIC PLANNING

Mr. Cobbina
Mr. Speaker, I would want to ask the hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, on what basis is the hon. Minister saying that Sefwi area is not under serious threat of capsid
Prof. Gyan-Baffour
Mr. Speaker,
as I said earlier on, the country has been divided into two zones in terms of relativity of the endemic nature of the disease. To the extent that an area is more prevalent in the black pod disease, that area is considered as a black pod disease area; to the extent that the capsid infestation is the highest in that area, the area is designated so. So in essence, we have two areas and that meant focusing on each area with respect to the seriousness of the diseases there. So in relation to other areas, the Sefwi area is more or high of black pod epidemic area than the other areas, that is less of the capsid, so it is actually in relativity not necessarily in terms of magnitude.
Mr. Cobbina 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning on what basis the hon. Minister is saying that Sefwi area is not under serious threat of capsid attacks since I am aware of cocoa trees that are dying daily in Sefwi area from being attacked by capsid and tumboris.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
as I said earlier on, the country has been divided into two zones in terms of the relativity of the endemic nature of the disease. To the extent that an area has no prevalent blackpod disease that area is considered as a blackpod disease area; to the extent that the capsid infestation is the highest in that area, the area is designated so. So in essence, we have two areas and the Government is focusing on each area with respect to the seriousness of the diseases there. So in relation to other areas, the Sefwi areas are more of high blackpod endemic than the other areas that have less of the capsid. So it is actually
in relativity and not necessarily in terms of magnitude.
Mr. Cobbina 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, looking
at the long period of five years of the blackpod disease control in the Sefwi area, how is the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning going to neutralise the exercise so as to - One good turn deserves another in the Sefwi area in terms of the spraying of cocoa against capsid.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
did not get the question clearly, so if he can repeat it.
Mr. Speaker 10:15 a.m.
Hon. Member, please
repeat your question.
Mr. Cobbina 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I said
that looking at the long period of one application for five years in a particular area, that is, the Sefwi area for the blackpod disease, how is his Ministry going to neutralise the exercise so that it goes to benefit the other zones that have been created? That is why I said that one good turn deserves another in a particular area.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
if I understood the question clearly, what the hon. Member is saying is that once we have done it for a particular area for a very long time, maybe, those kinds of diseases may have left that area and therefore there is the need for us to rotate it - I think it is a very good advice that we will take into consideration.
Mr. Cobbina 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want
to ask the hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning -- The question I asked over here was how is the Ministry planning to take this programme to the Sefwi area but it appears he never answered the question. That is why I am
stressing on that.
I also stated in the question that
Sefwi farmers cannot get money to buy insecticide to spray their farms and for that reason their farms are dying daily. Is there any programme by the Ministry to encourage cocoa farmers to also spray their farms whilst the programme has not been changed?
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
wish to make it very clear that the mass spraying exercise actually takes place all over the cocoa growing areas. So there is a mass spraying exercise in the Sefwi area. The difference is that there are two types of diseases; one is the blackpod which is actually a fungus related disease, and then there is the other one which is what we normally refer to as akate. The akate is the one that people know that we spray, but we also spray the blackpod. And the blackpod that are being sprayed in the Sefwi area, it is part of the mass spraying exercise so there are no two ways about that.
There is mass spraying going on in the Sefwi area. The difference is that we are not spraying the akate in the Sefwi area and that is what the hon. Member wanted us to find out as to when we will start spraying the akate in their area. My response was that the akate was not as endemic in his area as the blackpod and that is why Government focuses attention on the blackpod in that area. His question now is, if we have any plans for bringing the akate spraying into that area. Currently, there is no plan like that but to the extent that he is talking about this rotation, I think that it is something that we can take on board and see if that can be done.
Mr. E. P. Aidoo 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Sefwi areas are in the same climatic zones like Atwima Mponua, Atwima Nwabiagya, and most of the cocoa
growing areas in the Ashanti Region. I would like to know from the hon. Deputy Minister why the Sefwi areas have been considered as blackpod disease areas since 2001, if there is no hidden motive behind that programme and if that motive is not meant to discriminate. I just want to know from the hon. Deputy Minister.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
there is no motive behind the classification as to whether it is blackpod or it is capsid infestation area. It is all about the degree to which that particular disease is endemic in that area.
Mr. S. Ackah 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would
like to know from the hon. Deputy Minister if the purple bean disease which is seriously affecting the cocoa beans and for that matter the quality of the cocoa we export - whether controlling that disease forms part of the national cocoa diseases control programme.
And if so what is the Ministry doing to see if they can stamp out that programme.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the
purple bean disease is actually in the post harvest, that is, during the fermentation period and that is when the purple bean actually attacks the cocoa. It is all because maybe the fermentation, which should be in about seven days, is done maybe in three or four days. If that is done, that is inadequate fermentation and it is the cause of purple bean; so it is actually through education and not through maybe some insecticide or some fungicides. So yes, we have started with educating farmers. In fact, in the last communiqué that we issued we informed farmers that they should not take their cocoa out of brewing until after seven days. So that education is ongoing throughout the country, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. George Arthur 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my
question to the hon. Deputy Minister is
that there are some areas where they do not have the spraying gang and so the farmers have organised a voluntary gang, known as free gang. I want to know from the hon. Deputy Minister whether his Ministry has any plans of remunerating or recruiting these gangs to become a full gang.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, actually I am not aware of the “free gang” but to the extent that we want to cover all the areas with gangs hired by the Government - Because if there are areas where we do not have our gangs there we will form gangs for them.
Mr. Eric Opoku 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the Minister's Answer to the Question on the floor he indicated that farmers whose farms are threatened by capsid attacks are advised to spray their farms against the attacks from their own resources. Is the hon. Deputy Minister implying that the National Cocoa Diseases and Pests Control Programme is not being financed by the cocoa farmers themselves?
Pro. Gyan-Baffour: In fact, the last
one, part of it was from the bonus, but we have a limit to which we can actually have access to the bonus. So to the extent that we cannot cover the entire country we expect farmers to use their own resources to do the little that is left after the mass spraying. What I am saying is that the money is from the bonus which in actual fact -- Yes, when you follow it through it is actually from the farmers but that does not mean that it is unlimited. There is a limitation to the bonus actually being used for this exercise.
Salary Adjustment for Ghana Pensioners Association
Q. 232. Mr. J. T. Agbenu asked the
Minister for Finance and Economic Planning whether it was obligatory for Ghana Pensioners Association to negotiate
Mr. Eric Opoku 10:25 a.m.


for salary adjustment for members any time there is increase in the minimum wage.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
pensioners do not have to negotiate separately for increases in salary whenever new minimum wage is announced for the following reasons:
The Ghana Pensioners Association has no bargaining right and does not bargain on behalf of pensioners for increases in monthly pension earnings for those on Cap 30 or Teachers' Pension Ordinance.
Pensioners under SSNIT also do not bargain with SSNIT before changes in monthly pensions are effected too.
Pension earnings are not salaries, thus the Ghana Pens ioners Association could not be deemed to be negotiat ing for salary adjustments.
Changes in the minimum wage may affect monthly pension earnings under Cap 30 where the minimum wage adjustment leads to further negotiation to adjust salary levels for either those on the GUSS or the ‘A' Range Salary Structure.
The administrative directive that links the incumbent salary to pension earnings states that: “pensioners are placed on 50 per cent point of the lowest salary of the grade he/she retired on.” It follows from this that the pensioners are to automatically enjoy any increase(s) in salaries of workers.
Mr. Speaker, the Ghana Pensioners Association does not negotiate for any salary increase. Changes in monthly pension earnings would occur only when
there are changes in the GUSS or the “A Range Salary Structure.”
The level of monthly pension would change only after the Government had concluded negotiations with the Forum on salary adjustment for the particular year.
Mr. Agbenu 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the hon. Deputy Minister's Answer he said - and I quote: “Changes in the minimum wage may affect monthly pension earnings.” I want to know from the hon. Deputy Minister if his Ministry is only doing pensioners a favour or it is their right to have their pension earnings adjusted.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
what I said was that to the extent that the minimum wage increase will affect salaries of everybody else then automatically pensions of pensioners will be affected by that increase because it is at the 50 per cent peak point of the minimum where they retired. So that 50 per cent will automatically move up if that range is actually increased. So I am not saying that it is a favour; what I am saying is that it is automatic. But it is not necessarily the case that if we increase the minimum wage it affects all salaries. Should it happen that the minimum wage affects the levels of salaries then automatically pensioners will also avail themselves of that.
Mr. Agbenu 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would
want to ask the hon. Deputy Minister what is the cause of the delay in paying pensioners when salaries are adjusted.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the delay in payment to pensioners when salary is adjusted is probably not only limited to pensioners but even to those who are going to earn that salary, because they would have to do some adjustments in the processes that are used in the payments. So it is not only going to affect pensioners but maybe those whose salaries have been increased. But I do not think
it takes a lot of time or the delay is that long to warrant any adverse effect on the earners of those incomes.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 10:25 a.m.
Mr.
Speaker, I know the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning is extremely concerned about payment of double emoluments to people. With respect to my hon. Colleague, who is a former tutor of mine and a pensioner himself, how does the Ministry treat pensioners -- [Pause] - Hon. Abodakpi is warning me so I do not know whether to stop. Mr. Speaker, how does the Ministry treat the emoluments of pensioners who come to Parliament and receive emoluments?
Mr. Speaker 10:25 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister,
if you have the Answers you may give.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Deputy Minister, in his main Answer used “Cap 30” which is the Teachers Pension Ordinance, which is geared towards only a fraction of the pensioners in the country. He knows very well that majority of pensioners in the country fall outside the Cap 30 so why this reference to the generality of pensioners in terms of the Question?
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
yes, I referred to Cap 30; I referred to the Teachers Pension Ordinance but I have also referred to those who are under SSNIT. So it is not only limited to the Cap 30 and then those teachers; I actually covered basically all those outside Cap 30.
Mr. Kenneth Dzirasah 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
I would like to know from the hon. Deputy Minister whether he is aware that pension payments have been in arrears for the past three years or more in relation to certain increments that have occurred during the period. If he is aware, what measures are
being taken to ensure that the pensioners get what they are due?
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
am actually personally not aware of this, but I will try and find out and if there is anything that should be done we would try to solve the problem.
Mr. S. K. B. Manu 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to know from the hon. Deputy Minister - in his Answer he talked about pensioners who are under Cap 30. May I know if his Ministry has plans to extend the Cap 30 to workers who are outside that Scheme, that is Cap 30, particularly teachers?
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the
Ministry has no such plans.
The District Assemblies Common Fund
Q. 233. Mr. Francis Aggrey Agbotse
asked the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning how much of the District Assemblies Common Fund arrears which the Ministry promised to pay over five (5) years from 2003, had been paid to date and when the balance would be paid.

Mr. Speaker, the Ministry, in 2003, indeed, made a promise to pay the DACF arrears within a period of five years. This arrangement is on course; and for your information, Mr. Speaker, the Ministry had cleared a total amount of ¢161.7 billion out of the cumulative total of ¢268.7 billion, over the last three years, that is 2003, 2004 and 2005.
Mr. Agbotse 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to find out whether these figures he is quoting include the Member of Parliament's (MPs) Common Fund.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, to the extend that the arrears include the five per cent that goes to the Members of Parliament (MPs) I think this amount will include that.
Mr. Agbotse 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not
think this is the time to think; he should be specific Members of Parliament (MPs) have received only one out of the five years. What about the rest?
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Have you asked your
question, hon. Member?
Mr. Agbotse 10:35 a.m.
Where is the rest of the
MPs Common Fund?
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, if
that has not been going to the MPs, we will try and find out where it is and get it to them.
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Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister
for Finance and Economic Planning, do you have a supplementary question?
Dr. Osei 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was just
going to add some information that might respond to the hon. Member's question on the arrears of the MPs District Assemblies' Common Fund.
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
You may have to advise the hon. Deputy Minister at this stage.
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Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Hon. Member for South
Tongu, you may ask your question.
Mr. Dzirasah 10:35 a.m.
He may not be listening
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister
for Finance and Economic Planning, you may come back properly if you are not in
the position to answer. But let him ask his question.
Mr. Dzirasah 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would
like to know from the hon. Deputy Minister whether he can assist the House in verifying the accuracy of the figures he has given us by subsequently producing evidence of this payment.
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Do you want written
information later?
Mr. Dzirasah 10:35 a.m.
Whether he can
subsequently assist the House with the information, verifying the accuracy of the figures he has given.
Prof. Gyan-Baffour 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, if
there are documents that he wants me to produce, I can do that later. But I do not have them here currently.
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister
for Finance and Economic Planning, thank you very much for appearing to answer these Questions. You are now discharged.
STATEMENTS 10:35 a.m.

Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Order! Order!
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 10:35 a.m.
Solicitors of the hon. E. K. Doe Adjaho in the suit, E. K. Doe Adjaho against the Speaker of Parliament and the Attorney-General. Mr. Speaker, I am seeking to bring this matter before the House because of the unique position of the Rt. Hon. Speaker and also
because of fact that whatever affects the Rt. Hon. Speaker in the performance of his constitutional duties affects ipso facto all of us in this House.

Several Members -- rose -
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Please let me hear him.
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker with your kind permission, I want to read the letter I have referred to for its full effect and intent - [Interruption.]
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Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Hon. Member for
Central Tongu, do you have a point of order?
Mr. Gidisu 10:35 a.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. I need
your guidance; I do not know whether the hon. Deputy Attorney-General is making
a Statement or a complaint?
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
That is why I want to
hear him.
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, as
I said earlier on, I want to crave your indulgence to read the letter I have referred to for its full effect and intent.
“Lithur Brew Company Corporate and Investment Lawyers

The Speaker, Parliament of Ghana, State House, Accra.

Copy to: The Attorney-General, Ministry of Justice, Accra.

Dear Sir,

E. K. DOE ADJAHO AGAINST
THE SPEAKER OF PARLIAMENT 10:35 a.m.

AND THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL 10:35 a.m.

Dr. Kunbuor 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, we are on our feet.
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 10:35 a.m.
As is well known, the Parliament of the First Republic - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Hon. Members, I will hear you when I have heard him. Please go on.
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 10:45 a.m.
As is well known, the Parliament of the First Republic then chose to pass an Act to indemnify the Minister, a cause of action that would not now be possible under the 1992 Constitution.
“It is not our wish, “Mr. Speaker, the letter says,”
to initiate proceedings against your high office for contempt of court and we would hope you would not make it necessary.

However, by adopting a course of action that would clearly frustrate the proceedings we have initiated you would leave us no alternative. We would like to draw your attention to a previous instance when your predecessor, Mr. Justice
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Chief Whip, I saw you up.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to hon. Dr. Kunbuor.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Member for Lawra/Nandom, I give you the opportunity to comment.
Dr. Benjamin Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, because you did draw my attention to the fact that I should allow you to hear the hon. Deputy Attorney-General and Minister for Justice and I guess ostensibly to make a ruling on what he has been doing all along, which defies any rule on this House, I was actually waiting to hear that ruling before I make my comment, if I am permitted.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
I wish to refer this to the Committee on Privileges for examination, investigation and report.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thank you very much. I am particularly happy that - [Interruptions] I have not said anything
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
No, no. Whom are you addressing? Do not be distracted.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Very well, Mr. Speaker. 10. 55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I particularly feel very nauseated by what has taken place in this House because every human institution is normally governed by the minimum of rules of procedures, and that when on any particular occasion we have a business for the day already announced and any other thing has to take place here, we normally believe that would be in terms of a leave that is granted by the hon. Speaker.
What the hon. Deputy Attorney- General and Minister for Justice has done is incapable of being put into any of the categories of processes in this House, whether it was a statement he was making with the leave of the hon. Speaker, a policy position he was canvassing or addressing this House as an hon. Member who thinks that something un-toward has taken place in this House and ought to be addressed. Mr. Speaker, in each of these situations, there is a proper process to be followed.
One is not particularly enamoured
about the type of interpretation he puts on even very imaginary provisions of the 1992 Constitution. The tenor of what hon. Doe Adjaho has done is a matter that is still open to debate and legal arguments. Is the hon. Deputy Attorney-General and Minister for Justice telling anybody, be the one in the Executive, the Judiciary and the Legislature that one is not subject to the ordinary laws of this country and the Constitution? There is a difference
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Member for Lawra/
Nandom, you will have opportunity at the appropriate time to put your points across, that is why I gave you the time before giving this my ruling. So now you have had opportunity to lay this matter, I
have given you more than enough time to deal with it.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Thank you very much,
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Member, I said I
have given you more than enough time. You would still have an opportunity to deal with this matter in due course.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
One sentence, Mr.
Speaker.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Go ahead, if it is one
sentence.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Member, you
have had more than two sentences -- [Laughter.] As I say, [Interruption] -- Hon. Member for Lawra/Nandom, wind up.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, one
sentence [Laughter.] - Mr. Speaker, it is particularly gratifying that you have
referred this matter to your honourable on Committee of Privileges. I do hope when the Committee starts to sit on this matter, people would be prepared to be committed to the good processes that take place in that Committee.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Member for Chereponi?
Communal Violence in the Bimbilla
Traditional Area
Mrs Doris A. Seidu 10:45 a.m.
(NPP - Chereponi): Mr. Speaker, I thank you very much for the opportunity given me to make a statement on the communal violence which occurred in the Bimbilla Traditional area. It is indeed very worrying and sad to see a poverty-endemic area like Bimbilla engulfed in uncontrollable violence which led to the destruction of properties and lives, which could have been otherwise avoided if the people were to respect and understand their customs and traditions.
Mr. Speaker, it is clear that when violence of this nature arises it is children and women who often suffer, leading to the disintegration of families. I therefore would like to use this occasion to appeal to the people in the Northern Region, undoubtedly, one of the most deprived regions in this country, to avoid unnecessary violence and conflicts and forge ahead in unity for development of the area. As a daughter of the Region, I feel ashamed and embarrassed to hear of my own people fighting among themselves instead of using their God-given talent, ingenuity and strength to develop the vast land and very beautiful tourist attraction sites which we have.
May I, Mr. Speaker, appeal to my people, especially the Nanumbas and Dagombas to hasten the effort to achieve lasting peace and reconciliation, particularly for the betterment of the younger generations whose lives are being wasted.
Mrs Doris A. Seidu 11:05 a.m.
One must commend Government and the security agencies for their effort so far in calming the situation in the area. However, it is important for the authorities to always act proactively to nib whatever tension or potential conflict in the bud before it explodes to devour human lives and destroy properties.
It is my contention, Mr. Speaker, that one way of curtailing communal violence in the north is the appointment of an independent, impartial and neutral committee made up of eminent, mature and respected persons whose political colorations may not be obvious or prominent, to probe into problems confronting the institution of chieftaincy in the area, which is one veritable source of conflict. I believe an alternative mechanism could be fashioned out and put in place to ensure lasting solutions to the problems affecting the people of the north.
Mr. Speaker, the people in the area on their part must also accept and agree to respect and tolerate one another's views, cultures, traditions, mannerism and idiosyncrasies and forge ahead in peaceful coexistence.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, may I use this opportunity to challenge all political parties, especially, NDC and NPP to put their ambitions aside and come together to form one high profile group and lend a helping hand to these seemingly intractable problems which, after all, is just a family matter. If the factions see the sincerity and honesty in such a collective effort they shall surely be disarmed and those stoking the embers shall thus be rendered disabled.
Mr. Speaker, I thank you most sincerely for this opportunity.
Alhaji Amadu Seidu (NDC - Yapei/
Kusawgu): Mr. Speaker, as much as I
share the sentiments of the hon. Member, I believe that certain portions of the Statement she has read to the House - [Inaudible] -- because the statement sought to create the impression that northerners - [Inaudible] -- Ghana by nature has so many problems all over in all the regions of this country but when it comes to the north people tend to create the impression that the northerners by their very nature are very violent and I do not think that that is right.
She has specifically referred to the conflicts in Nanum and Dagbon. We know that the conflicts arose as a result of the chieftaincy succession problem and these problems have always been there. I thought that she would be specific in making her Statement rather than generalizing the situation in the North.

Mr. Speaker, the people in the North

are hardworking people. We only have four months of rainfall in the northern regions and within these four months all the grains and most of the tubers that one finds on the market are produced by the people of the North. We should give credit - in spite of the conflict, in spite of the difficulties - to the people of the North for being hardworking.

It is true that as northners we feel ashamed that sometimes conflicts should go out of hand, leading to the loss of lives and destruction of property; and those issues should be addressed. In this regard, we would want to plead with Government to play a more proactive role in addressing some of these issues because we know that most of these problems that we appear to be dealing with have been engineered by Politicians; and politicians cut across the length and breadth of this country. I think we should identify them and see what we

can do to address those issues so that there would be peace for everybody in the North rather than just generalizing and creating the impression that we are just violent people, that we take delight in conflicts; that we take delight in this and that. I do not think that is right.

Mr. Speaker, what we should know

and understand is that one does not need a search warrant to search for trouble. In other words, as a people, if we do not address the problems of society, we create the necessary ingredients for conflicts to happen; and that is what is happening everywhere. I thought that as lawmakers and as resourced citizens of this country, each and everyone of us has that responsibility and duty to ensure that there is peace in this country so that together we can move the country forward. But to create the impression that some people are like this or like that, we may have a problem when it comes to even getting the cooperation of the people in advancing the course of peace.

Mr. Speaker, with this, I support the

Statement somehow.

Minister for Public Sector Reforms

Mr. Speaker, I do understand from

the Statement made that what the hon. Member was attempting to do was to draw
Mrs Doris A. Seidu 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I spent a considerable
amount of time in 2001 and 2002 in the three northern regions when we were dealing with the Ghana Poverty Reduction Strategy, and spent considerable efforts and resources to try to publicize to this entire country, that the three northern regions together with the Central Region happened to be areas where poverty was most endemic. It is important that Mr. Speaker, if anything comes in the way in any of the three northern regions that will prevent us from devoting all of our attention, all of our efforts and all of our resources to dealing with these really terrible problems of poverty then we must talk about it, we must deal with it; but we must deal with it positively.

The Tamale Teaching Hospital
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDC - Tamale South) 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity to make a Statement on the sorry state of the Tamale Teaching Hospital and its ramifications for quality health delivery and the development of the University for Development Studies (UDS) Medical School.
Mr. Speaker, the Tamale Teaching Hospital was commissioned in 1974 as a three hundred and eighty bed health facility. It has a four-storey building which contains a theatre and an X-ray unit with an elaborate outpatient department,
which contains ten consulting rooms, a pharmacy unit, eye and ENT specialized departments.
Mr. Speaker, the Tamale Teaching Hospital has many functions to perform, including the enhancement of health status, health promotion, the prevention and treatment of injury and disease; the immediate and ongoing care and rehabilitation of patients; the education of health professionals, patients and community; and research. All these activities are conducted with an overriding concern for the value and dignity of patients.
The Tamale Teaching Hospital is a major regional hospital, which has experienced years of decline with loss of specialist medical staff and deterioration of building stock and equipment. In spite of these difficulties, medical, nursing and allied health professional staffs have continued to provide services to a rapidly growing and economically poor population.
Mr. Speaker, in 1993 the Government decided to develop a new medical school for Ghana at the University for Development Studies (UDS) to be based at the Tamale Hospital. Subsequently, the hospital was accredited with teaching status. The intention was to train medical students in a rural setting to encourage their attachment to this type of practice and hopefully to lead to their committing themselves to practise in rural areas for at least part of their career. The school is now taking in its eighth group of students and the lack of teaching and clinical facilities at the hospital is affecting and prejudicing the students' training programme.
The Tamale Teaching Hospital serves as the referral point for the four district
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDC - Tamale South) 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, attracting and retaining health professional staff in the Region is a major problem, which it is hoped, will be lessened by the development of the University of Development Studies School of Medicine. In the absence of adequate hospital and teaching facilities, both the Teaching Hospital and the Medical School have extreme difficulty in attracting clinically qualified specialists and medical staff.
Indeed, the sewerage system in the extreme ends of the Tower Block which houses the Medical, Surgical and Main Theatre and the X-ray units is in such a bad shape. Indeed, it has no functioning X-ray facility and the hon. Member for Zebilla, hon. John Ndebugre, will testify to this. The cracks on the buildings have provided a safe haven for mice and other rodents. Currently, the third and fourth floors of the Tower Block have been abandoned owing to serious cracks that have developed in the walls.
When it rains, Mr. Speaker, water percolates through all the floors of the block; beds have to be shifted every now and then to prevent patients from getting soaked in the water.
The laboratory that was built as an afterthought is at the verge of collapsing. Quality care to patients is, therefore, seriously hampered. Equipment in use are outdated and obsolete, thus making the provision of patient care rather difficult for the medical staff. There is also the absence of clean pipe-borne water.
Mr. Speaker, other problem areas
include accommodation for staff which has been a major hindrance to efforts at recruiting and retaining skilled staff. The hospital lacks the service of specialists in infectious diseases in the area of dermatology, urology, ENT and pathology. Mr. Speaker, an overview of the School of Medical and Health Services of the University of Development Studies. It was established in 1996 with a very unambiguous vision and mission.
The School is to adopt the philosophy of a problem-based learning, communication- based and community-oriented curriculum to train the next generation of Ghana's healthcare practitioners who should be socio-culturally and ecologically sensitive to deliver appropriate and responsible healthcare to deprived communities of Ghana, especially those in the northern sector of Ghana. Indeed, the northern sector, as referred to in the given mandate, is the area covering the Brong-Ahafo, Northern, Upper East and Upper West Regions of Ghana.
A curriculum that satisfies the requirement of the mandate and philosophy of the School has been implemented.

Since its inception, however, the School of Medical Sciences, UDS has been deprived of the essential ingredients for its development into the centre of academic excellence in the mentioned innovative approach to medical education that its forefathers conceived The school has woefully inadequate physical and academic infrastructure and many of the students pursuing medicine are, at the end of their fourth to fifth year, rather transferred to the Korle Bu Teaching Hospital, the University of Ghana Medical School or the Komfo Anokye Medical
Mr. Edward Salia (NDC - Jirapa) 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I wish to associate myself with the Statement so ably made by my hon. Colleague, the Member of Parliament for Tamale South.
In June the Northern Caucus actually
visited the Tamale Central Hospital and we were more disappointed than we had ever expected the situation to be.
Mr. Speaker, the Daily Graphic
description given to the Tamale Central Hospital probably is even worth seeing to really get to know the size of the problem.
Mr. Speaker, we are very much aware that a lot of hospitals were rehabilitated in the previous Administration. The Sunyani Central Hospital In fact, they started with the Cape Coast Hospital and from there the Ho Central Hospital was rehabilitated, and the last one was the Sunyani Central
Hospital.
It was the intention of the Government
at the time to tackle the Tamale Central Hospital next but unfortunately the New Patriotic Party (NPP) succeeded that Government in 2001. It is my expectation that these good policies that we began would be continued. Indeed, I believe that it was a big mistake to do the three other hospitals before the Tamale Central Hospital. I believe that after rehabilitating maybe two in the south, if a northern one was done, it would have satisfied the three northern regions and the referral that is often required from the Upper West, Upper East, and Northern Regions would have been focused on the Tamale Central Hospital.
Unfortunately, this did not happen and it is therefore my appeal to the NPP Government to continue with that programme and ensure that the rest of the Regional Hospitals that had not been rehabilitated would be tackled. I believe that if the Tamale one is done - Bolga also happened to have enjoyed a bit of the rehabilitation. Of course, in the Upper West Region, we do not have any regional hospital to talk about because the Wa Central Hospital or the Wa Regional Hospital has been just a district hospital that is taking care of the entire region.
Mr. Speaker, my major concern really is the training of medical professionals particularly doctors. With the establishment of the University of Development Studies, the Medical School there gives an opportunity for the country to train many more doctors. But unfortunately, because there is no teaching hospital the current intake of the University of Development Studies Medical School is so low that it is not as cost effective as it would have been if there were teaching hospitals and all the clinical training were undertaken at
the Central Hospital in Tamale.
At the moment, the medical students from the University of Development Studies are suffering a lot of untold hardships when they migrate from the Tamale Campus to Kumasi and the Korle-Bu Teaching Hospital. At the moment, they have to rent their own accommodation and a lot of them are really struggling to cope with the financial circumstances. It is therefore my hope and wish that this Statement that has now come on the floor of the House will enable the NPP Government to tackle the rehabilitation of the Tamale Central Hospital faster than they were planning.
I know that some resources have always been targeted and the last time we checked, there was supposed to be some funding coming from one or two donor countries, Holland, and I believe DANIDA - Denmark. I believe that the time has come for these grants or loans to be pursued more vigorously so that the rehabilitation of the Tamale Central Hospital can proceed without any further delay.
Mr. John Ndebugre (PNC - Zebilla) 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that the hon. Member who made the Statement was inviting me to contribute to this Statement and I thank Mr. Speaker for having given me the opportunity to satisfy him and also to perform my duty.
I was actually in the Tamale Central Hospital some time in April last year, because I had some injury to my knee. I really saw that the hospital was falling apart and when I returned I discussed that with the leaders of the Northern Caucus. I think that, that was what the hon. Member for Jirapa (Mr. Edward Salia) was trying to allude to. And as a result of my intervention and the discussion we held, the Northern Caucus undertook a
visit to the Tamale Central Hospital. The report that was brought back was really very alarming and it is still very alarming.
The Hospital is not just a referral hospital for the Northern Region, as the hon. Member who made the Statement said; it was envisaged to be a referral hospital for the Northern half of the country - for the Northern, Upper East and Upper West Regions. And due to the sorry state of infrastructure in the country generally and particularly in those parts of the country, we need a very strong referral centre to take care of emergencies. At the moment, if there is an emergency in my Constituency somewhere in Zebilla or Yong, we would need an aircraft to come to the Paga airstrip, which is not tarred, and in order that we would move the person somehow to the airstrip for him or her to be evacuated to Accra or Kumasi; in fact, most invariably to Accra Korle- Bu Teaching Hospital almost all the time. And by the time they arrive in Accra or in Kumasi, they would be arriving with a dead body and not a patient.
And so it is very important that we should take note of the fact that this is a referral hospital for a whole zone, not just one region, and then try to improve the facility so that it can perform its functions properly.

The other matter is about the fact that it was also envisaged to ultimately become a teaching hospital to take care of the medical students of the University of Development Studies. A lot has been said about that already, I do not need to repeat it.

He mentioned emergency. What I want to add is that it worsens the brain-drain situation that we are all complaining about,

because medical personnel are leaving the country not only because of poor pay, but because of poor working conditions. One cannot get job satisfaction and if one is posted to a hospital of the type that has been described by the hon. Member who made the Statement, one can be sure that the wish to continue to stay there and work would be very limited. So we should take that also into account.

I think that in order to give this matter a very serious push, I will recommend that the Select Committee on Health should also undertake a visit to the hospital and then when it has undertaken a visit to the hospital, it may wish to bring a report to this House for us to discuss further.

For these reasons and others, which I cannot continue to expatiate because other hon. Members may want to contribute, I associate myself very closely and very strongly with this very important Statement.

Several hon. Members - rose -
Mr. Speaker 11:25 a.m.
I will call the hon. Member for Tamale North, then I will call the hon. Majority Leader.
Alhaji Sumani Abukari (NDC - Tamale North) 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would not take long. A lot has been said already. The Chairman of the Committee that went to inspect the hospital has said a lot about our findings when we got there. I believe that report, maybe, has to be lodged with the hon. Speaker.
What I want to say next is that Mr. Speaker had the privilege of visiting that hospital in October last year when there was this Open Forum in Tamale, and I believe Mr. Speaker and the Leadership of the House saw the deplorable state of that so-called teaching hospital. That hospital is no more the regional hospital
Majority Leader (Mr. Owusu- Adjapong) 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, as my hon. Colleague said, you yourself had visited this facility together with a number of members of the leadership and some hon. Members of Parliament. Therefore, one cannot contradict the description that has been given as to the poor state of that institution.
I believe that this is the type of Statement I wish that after it has been made, we possibly ask the hon. Minister responsible to come and brief us. This is because I am aware that the hon. Minister together with the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning has been negotiating with the hope of securing the proper funding for this. Therefore, I would rather suggest that we give an opportunity to ourselves and allow the hon. Minister to come and re-brief us. I am aware he had once been here and talked on this matter but not into the details that we now want, so he can tell us what is being done and what has been achieved and then we would move from there.
As to the suggestion that the Select Committee on Health goes there, it may be necessary, but for the moment, I think an initial briefing from the hon. Minister would give us the actual update. I am aware that a lot is being done and I would not want to precipitate matters. I would want the hon. Minister to come.
I am told on proper authority that it is never correct that when funds are distributed to educational institutions, the University of Development Studies (UDS) is left out, but if it is so - I would check up on that one, because I have been told that, that is not the position - [Interruption.] But then if some hon. Members are saying so, I believe that the hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning is here; he can clarify that portion. I would want us to agree that we call the hon.
Minister for Health to come and make a Statement on this.
Mr. Speaker 11:25 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, if you have any information for us, please go ahead.
Dr. A.A. Osei 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I wish my younger hon. Colleague, Haruna Iddrisu would listen while I inform him.
Mr. Speaker, I think that the hon. Majority Leader has made a statement that anybody who has seen it cannot dispute its nature. But I want to assure my hon. younger Brother that Government has been very seriously taking this matter up. I think I have already mentioned to him that I, myself, have been directed to have discussions with the Ambassador and just last week we had a meeting in my office on this - [Interruption] I will reserve that for later.
Mr. Speaker 11:25 a.m.
Do not be distracted.
Dr. Osei 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, just last night, I want to speak on authority that a consultant left Tamale after having visited to do some work over there. Cabinet is looking at the matter very seriously, and as the hon. Majority Leader said, we would get together with the hon. Minister for Health and come to give a full description of what Government is doing about this situation.
The general principle is that health is a crucial element of Government's development agenda and we are looking at it very seriously. We are at a very advanced stage, I can assure the hon. young Member.
On the matter of the Medical School not having been given any money, it is not correct. The Medical School lives on Government money. The Medical School
does not live on its own money; it lives on Government money. One has to be careful when one is making a statement like, “It does not get any money.” All the money it gets comes from Government or Government-sourced funds. So please, I want to correct that erroneous impression that the Medical School does not get Government money.
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Mr. Speaker 11:25 a.m.
It is only a comment; no arguments.
PAPERS 11:25 a.m.

MOTIONS 11:25 a.m.

Nana Akomea (NPP - Okaikwei South) 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, That this House thanks His Excellency the President for the Message on the State of the Nation which he delivered to this honourable House on Tuesday, 31st January 2006.

Mr. Speaker, the President chooses four main areas to illustrate the optimistic state of the nation, and as the Chairman of your Committee on Trade and Industry, I will distil from those four areas that the President mentioned issues that affect trade and industry and to illustrate the
Nana Akomea (NPP - Okaikwei South) 11:35 a.m.
support that they would give to move our nation forward.
Mr. Speaker, the President envisaged that we would become a middle-income country by the year 2015 and for that we needed to grow in excess of eight (8) per cent a year. Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth at this moment is about six (6) per cent for the year 2005, and I am happy to note that this is continuing a very positive trend of continuous and consecutive growth in our GDP since the year 2001.
Mr. Speaker, the period after 2001 has seen the longest periods where we have had continuous consecutive growth in our GDP since 1983.

Mr. Speaker, there has been some disputes about the six per cent growth that the President has mentioned. Indeed, Mr. Speaker, it could even be higher because the figures are still coming in and until

Mr. Speaker, in our effort to grow more than eight per cent, the President mentioned some specific developments that are significant to help us achieve the growth rate of eight per cent. He mentioned VALCO and I have heard a few friends say that there was too much emphasis by the President on VALCO. That could be their opinion, but we cannot deny that VALCO has tremendous potential for the growth of our industrial base in this country. Indeed, Mr. Speaker, in the 1960s VALCO was conceived to be the bedrock of industrial development in this country.

There were tremendous upward linkages in the exploitation of bauxite, limestone, caustic soda and salt and the powered linkages of powering aluminum industry that was going to rival steel as an input for industrial take-off for this country. Unfortunately, that grand aim of the country was not achieved. VALCO since 1996 operated mainly as an enclave industry and we did not realize the kind of synergy, the backward synergy and the forward synergy that Dr. Kwame Nkrumah envisaged for VALCO.

Fortunately for us, Mr. Speaker, Government is now in the driving seat again and it gives this country a second opportunity to steer VALCO in the direction that would allow this country to benefit from the envisaged backward linkages and the forward linkages of VALCO. And I wager that the decision of Government to buy VALCO is probably one of the wisest decisions that any Government has taken in this country.
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Mr. Speaker 11:35 a.m.
Hon. Member for Ashaiman, are you standing?
Mr. Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member has said that the decision of Government to buy VALCO is the best decision to be made by any Government. Mr. Speaker, I think this is an erroneous statement; it is factually incorrect. Mr. Speaker, President Nkrumah brought the idea and set up VALCO so somebody who came to buy it from somebody cannot be said to have made the best decision. The one who set it up made the best decision, probably, the best for the country - [Interruptions.] So his point that the decision to buy it off is the best decision by any Government, Mr. Speaker, is factually incorrect and I want to remind the hon. Member of that.
Nana Akomea 11:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the fact that his own Colleagues were laughing shows that my hon. Friend has not clearly understood what I was talking about - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker, the President also mentioned that the macro stability that we have achieved in the last four years we would continue as a country to ensure that macro stability, as we move towards a growth rate of eight per cent. But Mr. Speaker, the macro stability we all know was achieved mainly as a result
of the prudent management of the HIPC policy that gave us hundred per cent debt forgiveness, which in turn would allow us or deepen our ability to maintain macro stability.
Mr. Speaker, the record time to achieve this stability in just two years, which stability has eluded us since 1993, has attracted the toast of both local and international communities. Indeed, as we speak, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Board has just completed an evaluation of our policy initiative that allowed us to achieve stability so quickly, so that they can replicate it in other African countries. But Mr. Speaker, the macro stability is crucial for the growth of trade and for the growth of industry.
Mr. Speaker, the President mentioned investment in people and investment in jobs as a major plan to help us achieve the eight per cent GDP growth, and he mentioned that one way of achieving this optimum investment in people is through the new educational reforms that are supposed to come into place before 2008.
Mr. Speaker, one significant thing about the new education reforms that are supposed to be implemented before 2008 is that it seeks to cure a gap in our current system where junior secondary school (JSS) graduates who are not able to continue fall through the cracks and go onto the streets to sell. The system that we have now, Mr. Speaker, is that when the young girl or boy in Ghana finishes JSS and is not able to get to senior secondary school (SSS), that young person would fall through a crack; there is no avenue and that is one of the reasons why we have the phenomenon of street children in the streets of our cities.
The new educational reform has proposed a cure for this gap, this loophole
Nana Akomea 11:45 a.m.
that young people have been falling through. It proposes a primary education, basic compulsory education, which would finish with the child being at age fifteen. If the child is not able to progress to SSS the State itself would take it upon itself to sponsor this child for a year's technical or vocational education, so that that crack is closed and the phenomenon of street children would be minimized. And it behoves on all of us in this House to support Government to be able to implement these reforms for the potential benefit that would come to our children.
Mr. Speaker, another development, of major potential impact for the development of trade and industry that the President mentioned in his Address, is the exercise to capture the informal economic and commercial operators in terms of statistics and try and streamline them into the mainstream of economic activity, The first plan to achieve this is the national identification project which he mentioned is far advanced and the contract would soon be awarded after due competitive tender; and it behoves on all of us to support this project to give to every citizen of this country an identity that can be used for all kinds of commercial and economic purposes in this country.

The President mentioned the issue of long term finance and credit for businesses. Mr. Speaker, we all know that the problem has been a long standingone in this country, but currently from levels of more than 50 per cent interest rates before the year 2001, we now have interest rates at around 27 per cent and this is very crucial for the development of industry and trade in this country.

The President also mentioned the

operationalisation of the Venture Capital Fund that will be available for small and medium scale enterprises, and as we speak, there is an amount of 20 million dollars that is in this Fund and that is going to become available for the development of trade and industry and small and medium scale enterprises (SMEs) in this country.

Mr. Speaker, the President again made a statement about trade and industry which I believe is very fundamental. He said- and with your permission, I quote, Mr. Speaker -

“. . . government's declared policy to stay out of business, does not preclude intervention or even direct involvement when this will best serve the national interest.”

Mr. Speaker, we all should know that direct state operation of economic and commercial activities, as we have had in the 1960s, has not been the best and we know that complete laissezr-faire, where the private sector is left on its own to struggle it out, is also not the best. The strategy now Mr. Speaker, is a combination of the strength of the State and the strength of the private sector. This simply means that where private industry is weak Government should come in with its weight, not to take over, but to support industry over the difficult period. It calls for intelligent government intervention, intelligent government support, intelligent public support for the private sector, and intelligent private support for the public sector. This is what the President meant when he said that Government would intervene where necessary in the interest of the nation. And I believe, Mr. Speaker, that in this policy lies the blueprint for industrial take-off in this country.
Nana Akomea 11:45 a.m.
The President mentioned some examples of this kind of policy. He mentioned VALCO as one big example; of this policy of intelligent government support for industry. The President also mentioned Ghana Telecom as another big example, he mentioned Juapong Textiles as another big example of the kind of support that Government will give to private industry. He mentioned GTMC as another big example of the kind of support. Other examples that the President did not mention would include Ghana International Airlines and of course the Metro Mass Transit where the State is involved in a forward-looking engagement to private sector to develop the sector. And I believe that this is the blueprint for industrial take- off in this country.
Mr. Speaker, however, this engagements of the private sector by the State or the public sector must be intelligent, must give value for money, and above all, it must be transparent if they are to be successful.
Mr. Speaker, the President mentioned diversification of the economy as a major plan in achieving the growth rate of 8 per cent. Mr. Speaker, in my short term as Chairman of your Committee on Trade and Industry, I have noticed that the current PSIs are largely geared-up for the export market. The PSI for cassava, for example, relies heavily on the export market for industrial starch. The PSI for garments also relies heavily on the export market for garments and even palm oil, to a large extent, relies heavily on an export market.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that we should also focus a lot more on industries which have a large domestic market so that our industries do not become subject to the vagaries of international markets. In this light two key industries come to mind. The
first is that of poultry, of which we import more than forty-two million birds every year but of which we produce less than 10 million. The second industry is rice, of which we import more than 300,000 tonnes but of which we produce less than
150,000.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that the domestic market for these industries are so huge that a focus on them will yield the kind of benefits that will not be subject to what is happening on the international market and I humbly propose that rice and poultry be put under the PSIs.
Mr. Speaker, outside trade and industry, I will, with your indulgence, touch briefly on other issues of significance that the President dealt with in his Address. The President mentioned regional groupings; he mentioned the importance of regional integration for trade and industry for our economy. He also indicated various arrangements with other West African countries for our mutual benefit.
Mr. Speaker, I submit that the issue of integration in West Africa is so crucial for our own economic survival that it should be given more priority than it seems to be given now. Our leaders in West Africa need to put in more effort to achieve monetary integration and a single market in West Africa. It seems to me that the progress so far has been conventional and slow, we need to rise above the conventional way of doing things as far as economic integration in West Africa is concerned. The very future of our industrial development depends on this, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the President also mentioned the negative publicity about this country that is put on websites and on the internet. Mr. Speaker, I submit that a major motivation for some of these
negative stories is mischief - pure and simple. These people who take delight in publishing these negative stories about this country will not be persuaded because they have their motive. The only recourse therefore, is for Government to counter these stories with the same energy as that with which the mischief makers use to put theirs on the internet.
But more importantly, Mr. Speaker, I believe that the struggle to improve this country and its image is mainly a local struggle. Therefore we should concentrate more in putting our house in order in this country. Sanitation, personal security, order on the streets or the pavements, in the neighbourhoods, lightening up the streets, continuing to equip the Police to fight crime, making healthcare more affordable, and delivering good governance, a fair and judicial system, Mr. Speaker, these are the things that we need to concentrate on and when we have achieved significant progress in these fields, no matter what anybody puts on the internet, it will have no effect.

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Alhaji Sumani Abukari 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was listening to my very good Friend,
hon. Akomea with a lot of interest. In fact, he has made some very useful and brilliant statements. But at the same time he has made some of them which are completely false and I did not expect that to come from him. I have a lot of respect for him. Mr. Speaker, the President never said he appeared before CHRAJ, he never said so. Can he quote that portion of his Address? He never appeared there. He said his lawyers took his documents there; he did not say he appeared there. So please, if he can correct that view that will be very good.
Nana Akomea 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I know that the lawyers on the other side would draw my hon. Colleague's attention to the veracity of what I have said. Mr. Speaker, it has been said that his appearance before CHRAJ is no big deal and I am saying that it is a big deal. Because this is the first time in the history of this country that any leader, be he a President, a Head of State, a Prime Minister, a Chairman, or any leader in any guise, has submitted himself to some judicial proceedings arising out of allegations about him. It has never happened in this country, but we know that several allegations are made about leaders and none of them has allowed himself to be subject to judicial proceedings [Interruptions.] This is the first time and we need to acknowledge this as we move forward so that it becomes a precedent that should be followed by all leaders in this country.
Mr. Speaker, on the same issue of corruption, the President went ahead and said that allegations of corruption can be made but it will also be helpful if formal reports are made to the Police and other investigative bodies. And this has also been misconstrued. Mr. Speaker, this is not strange at all. The fact that the President is saying it will be helpful if allegations are also made formally to the Police and CHRAJ and Serious Fraud
Office (SFO) and other constitutional bodies does not preclude those agencies from conducting investigations on their own. So I do not at all see the strangeness in the President's suggestion.
Indeed, we have had instances in this country where complaints have formally been made to these agencies and they have started proceedings based on the complaints. We have also had instances where though no formal complaints have been made these agencies on their own have started investigations. So what the President is saying is not any strange thing at all. He is not relinquishing the fight against corruption to the media or to anybody else. He is saying that once you think you have the facts it will be helpful if you would make the facts available to the Police or to the CHRAJ. What is strange about this. And how does this undermine the President's commitment against corruption?
Mr. Speaker, the President also touched on the Representation of the People (Amendment) Bill (ROPAB). Of course, that generated a little bit of excitement here. There were whistling; there were catcalls, there were bells being rung and of course, there was red cloths all over the place. But Mr. Speaker, I believe that the debate about this Bill has been sidelined into something else and it has clouded the debate.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that all the debate about the implementation which has aroused a lot of sentiments should not come at this stage. All the debate about the implementation of the amendment should come at the second stage where the Electoral Commissioner will be required to do the necessary consultations, whether at IPAC or wherever, to come out with modalities that would be agreeable to everybody. At this stage of the amendment,
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDC - Tamale South) 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to second the motion and with the indulgence of Mr. Speaker, to make a few preliminary comments about the President's State of the Nation Address and some of the issues raised by hon. Akomea. Mr. Speaker, I would like to describe the President's State of the Nation Address with just two words. It was not only unimpressive but not comprehensive enough to have captured the true state of the nation; and in many respects I will demonstrate it, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, for instance, the Address failed to state anything about the Forestry sector, the threat of desertification
Dr. A. Akoto Osei 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I need to be guided. He said he rose to support the motion to thank the President and he is calling that unimpressive. I cannot thank somebody by telling him that his speech is not impressive -- [Interruptions.] Mr. Speaker, I need to be guided. In our culture, the proper way of thanking somebody is not to abuse them. So Mr. Speaker, I need to be guided by the choice of language.
Mr. Speaker 11:45 a.m.
I intend to guide you, let him continue.
Mr. Iddrisu 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I said that conspicuously lost in the State of the Nation Address was any comments by the President on the state of Forestry and Mining. Particularly, within the mining sector over the last few months we have all been witnesses to the clashes between mining communities and mining companies operating in those areas, but that did not attract a comment by His excellency, the President.
Mr. Speaker, also about security and the state of our country, there have been some disturbances in Bimbilla, the Nanumba area that the hon. Member referred to. There have been some disturbances in Wa in the Upper West Region, the Dagbon tragedy remains unresolved, but no comment whatsoever came from the President about that. What he chose to do was to describe the state of the nation as good.
Mr. Speaker, quite apart from the security sector, the President himself launched his Ghana Poverty Reduction Strategy (I) (GPRS I). He currently has brought before Parliament GPRS II. One would have thought that he would use the
Mr. I. K. Asiamah 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The GPRS document that the hon. Member is referring to is a medium term development plan of the government. Mr. Speaker, all these programmes are within the framework of the GPRS I & II. Mr. Speaker, all that the President spoke about was to reduce poverty. On achievements, specifically, he mentioned that macro economic stability -- and this is captured in the GPRS II document.
Mr. Iddrisu 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in moving the motion the hon. Member made reference to the fact that the President in the State of the Nation Address made countless reference to VALCO as his maybe major success story to talk about the industrial sector. Mr. Speaker, that was an obsession. Indeed, VALCO today is operating below capacity. Only two out of the five smelters are operating. Quite apart from that the level of employment at VALCO today is less than 50 per cent of the total employment capacity of VALCO; yet this was considered a major achievement even though we owe this to the vision of President Kwame Nkrumah of blessed memory.
Mr. J. K. Adda 11:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague is misleading this House. What the President stated was for us to see the difference between what would have happened if we had not purchased VALCO's shares and left it idle. That
would have meant zero employment, zero operations, zero in comparing the five smelters with at least the two smelters that are operating now. So in that sense there is success. If the decision had been made not to purchase VALCO back we would not have had anything. That is quite important, and he ought to understand this, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
Dr. Osei 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the young man is a lawyer. In the matters of economics and statistics he ought to be very careful. He should go and read the Budget Statement. He said the GDP is 5.8 per cent, but he talked about cocoa. Does he know why the sector is growing higher than that? If he does not know the facts he should not mislead this House. Cocoa marketing and production is what we are talking about. He should look at the growth rate there. Mr. Speaker, he is an honourable Member of this House, the whole nation is watching us -- [Interruptions.] Mr. Speaker, in thanking the President, let us
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister, exercise a bit of patience - [Laughter.] The hon. Member, for Tamale South, I hope you will take all these things on board.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:05 p.m.
Yes, I will. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member (Nana Akomea) indicated in his own submission that the figures were unavailable and that it would be by the end of February. So I am simply saying that the President's own growth rate of 6 per cent and budget promise - Indeed, the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning said- and with your permission, I quote:
“We are on course on a GDP rate of 5.8 per cent.”
Nana Akomea 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the President came to give the State of the Nation Address - [interruptions.] So Mr. Speaker, the President chose issues that he thinks support his views about the state of the -- [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Order! Order!
Nana Akomea 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, if any of
Mr. Iddrisu 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would not be distracted. Mr. Speaker, I just want to establish why I think it is prudent to question the GDP growth rate and I refer to paragraph 85 of the Budget Statement. We are told that relative to the performance of the sectors - we have the agricultural sector as the dominant sector which did 47 per cent in 2004, and in 2005 it did 41 per cent; that is a decline.
They also have in the same paragraph 85, the decline in volumes of production and receipts for cocoa. Yet their economy is predominantly led by the cocoa sector.
So they cannot have decline in volumes of production and reduction in volume of receipts and seek to achieve the same growth rate relative to the previous year of 2005 when they are now 5.8 per cent. It is untenable, Mr. Speaker. And it is interesting for him to admit that that was the President's view. That in my view is significant; that the President in addressing the state of our nation can come and express his views and not what the true state of our nation is.
Dr. Osei 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I cautioned my hon. Colleague to be very careful when he is trying to tell this House about economic statistics. He talked about decline in volumes and receipts; that section, I repeat, is cocoa production and marketing. If he does not understand what it means he should ask for an explanation. The fact that volumes might be falling does not mean that in the market area we do not have an upsurge. So Mr. Speaker, these are technical matters and if he wants to be educated on -- [Interruptions]
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Order! Order!
Dr. Osei 12:05 p.m.
He should look at the section on cocoa marketing and production. He is giving one side of the numbers without giving the full picture. On matters that he is not sure, let him not mislead this House.
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, I will give you plenty of time to contribute. In the meantime, let him go on.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I can refer the hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning to paragraph 55 of their own Budget Statement when they admitted a decline in the contribution of the agricultural sector. Receipts are receipts, but the amount of money they got from cocoa was lower than the previous year, clear and simple. I do need
not sophisticated economic analysis to understand receipts and payments. Mr. Speaker, I will proceed.
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Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Minister, do you have a point of order to raise?
Mr. Adda 12:15 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, I have a point of order. Mr. Speaker, it may be true that he does not need any sophisticated economic analysis to understand what we are talking about. But the fact of the matter is that in the first place, as said by the hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, the Economic Commission for Africa (ECA) did not refute the growth rate of Ghana. Secondly, the IMF and the World Bank who are some of our closest development partners are indeed the organisations which said that the rate at which Ghana is growing may well be more than the 5.8 per cent and will be possibly 6 per cent. So that is where the President is drawing has statement from.

As to the 8 per cent, Mr. Speaker, the President is saying that the 8 per cent growth rate is what we need to get to the middle income status. So indeed, these are projections. We need to gear up and reorganize ourselves in a manner that would enable us to explore the resources to get to the 8 per cent growth rate. That is what the President is saying and it is not as if the President is dreaming. He is saying that this is what we need to do. So we ought to understand that.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the President's own development agenda of GPRS the anticipation is that we will grow consistently at 7 per cent if we are to attain the $1000 per capita income by
2015.
Mr. Speaker, may I now refer to the subject matter of corruption that the President touched on. Mr. Speaker, the President said that he was not going to forget about the subject matter of corruption but went further to make a very significant comment, and with your indulgence I quote:
“There is no denying the media's rights to publish stories of corruption. This government is always ready to cooporate with the media and recognises their watchdog role over society. But it is only fair that when there is an allegation of corruption made against people in government, media people should go directly to the Police, not the President.”
Mr. Speaker, I find that quite intriguing for the President who a few years ago declared zero-tolerance for corruption. Now the media in discharging their obligation to hold Government officials accountable are being directed that the
Nana Akomea 12:15 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Friend opposite has quoted the President, that the President is said that if media people have allegation of corruption they should go to the Police and not the President. But Mr. Speaker, if he had continued reading he would have read to us that the President said that if anybody felt like reporting to the President they should go to the Office of Accountability which is under the Office of the President. He deliberately refused to continue out of mischief.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I naturally would have followed to the Office of Accountability. Indeed, to fight corruption is not to set a self- serving office at the Office of the President. As we speak today, not even the Parliament of Ghana is aware how many cases that office has dealt with, which persons or which Government officials were involved, which matters were concerned; we are not informed about that - [Interruption.]
Dr. Osei 12:15 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, he has been grossly misleading this House. He referred to a statement or something called GPRS. Mr. Speaker, with all due respect there is no document in Ghana called GPRS. It is either GPRS I or GPRS II and he claims he has read it - [Uproar.]
Mr. Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Order Order!
Mr. Osei 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, he is seriously misleading this House. If he has a document called GPRS then it is not the document the President is referring to. So at least, he has lied to this House by saying that he read the President's document. The President's document is not GPRS
Mr. Speaker 12:15 p.m.
The hon. Member is now dealing with corruption.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
Mrs. Grace Coleman 12:15 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member continues to mislead this House. Mr. Speaker, I am sure that when the President talks about corruption and refers the media to the Office of Accountability, I am sure they understand it. He does not have to interpret it to them. If he says come to the President - and they know - and he continues to talk about the Office of Accountability, I am sure they understand. By saying that they should go to the Police - Mr. Speaker, what is his problem? Have they said they did not understand what the President said? Why is he hammering that point when the President has gone on to explain what he meant by what he said? Why? Does he just want to create a palaver with the President or with Parliament? We beg him. We understand. The media understand. They can ask for explanation if they do not. He does not
have to do that, it is not right.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was just emphasizing the point that all that the media can do in their watchdog role is to whistle blow and not to report to the Police. Theirs is to set the agenda by exposing issues they think is a plunder of national resources involving public officials or people using state resources for their private gain. The President in his Address -- I am minded to quote properly, and Mr. Speaker, with your indulgence I quote from page 17 of the State of the Nation Address - [Interruption.]
Mr. Adda 12:15 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, indeed, my hon. Colleague said that the Office of Accountability is operating in darkness.
[Some hon. Members: -- Yes!] This is totally untrue. It is there for all Ghanaians to go to and submit what-ever information they have about corruption; he has not attempted to do that and has been rebuffed. It is not exclusive to just members of Government or the Executive. It is not operating in darkness. The media can go there. He can go there; anybody can go there so he is misleading the whole nation.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, all that I am demanding is that the Office of Accountability be made to submit an annual report to this august House - Indeed, it is not only a creation of a legislation, that is why I am saying that we need to strengthen it as an institution as our commitment to achieving zero tolerance for corruption. But Mr. Speaker, I was going to from page 17 of the State of the Nation Address - [Interruption.]
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thought that this august House has a proper way of requesting information from various ministries including the Ministry of Presidential Affairs. He has not attempted
to do that, he is trying to subvert our process of questioning Ministers by just making a request on this floor. There is a proper way of doing this. One must call the Minister and he will come and do it. So please, if he has not fulfilled his parliamentary responsibilities he should stop misleading this House.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was going to quote from page 17, paragraph 5 and I quote with your indulgence:
“Budgetary allocations to the state institutions with responsibility to investigate and prosecute corruption here quadrupled since 2001”
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Mr. Asiamah 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, my hon.
Colleague was saying that he does not know what the Office of Accountability does. Mr. Speaker, what it does is that it is an outfit within the Presidency that provides an early warning signal to the President to act on issues of corruption [Interruption] That is what it does. Mr. Speaker, I do not know whether the President asked the media to go to -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, may I

now proceed to other issues which were raised by His Excellency the President and in particular go ahead to the issue of the Representation of the People (Amendment) Bill.
Dr. Osei 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, my hon.
Colleague just referred us to page 17 of the State of the Nation Address and quoted a paragraph to us and moved on to infer that and I beg to quote: “I am quite sure the President was referring to SFO and CHRAJ”. Mr. Speaker, he does not know the President's mind. Mr. Speaker, with your indulgence I want to read - and he was very specific: “Let me reiterate what government has been doing” That is the beginning of the paragraph, he did not read that part.
“Budgetary allocations to the state institutions with responsibility to investigate and prosecute…”
and then he goes on and concludes that he was referring to SFO and CHRAJ. How could he? To prosecute -- the hon. Minister for Justice and Attorney-General has the responsibility to prosecute and their budget has quadrupled. So why does he say he thinks he was inferring to the President? In these matters when one is not sure one must ask the President rather than mislead this House. So since he has misled the House I want him to withdraw.
Mr. Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Go ahead, hon. Member.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the
President gave a signal and an indication of his determination to see that Ghanaian residents abroad do exercise their unfettered right to vote. In particular the President referred to the President's State of the Nation Address of 1996 which was read by former President Jerry John Rawlings. What the President failed to do was to have consulted the former President or his outfit to appreciate why the initiative was stopped because what
the then President did, after the delivery of the State of the Nation Address, was to direct the Electoral Commission, the independent Commission established under article 45 of our Constitution, clothed with powers to deal with electoral issues, to come back and convince the Executive as to the suitability or otherwise of Ghanaians resident abroad voting.
Nana Akomea 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, based on the
Mr. Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:15 p.m.
Mr.
Speaker, regarding the State of the Nation Address, or as it was called in those days, the Sessional Address that was delivered by the former President, my hon. Colleague said that the former President directed the Electoral Commission to take some measures. Mr. Speaker, that really shows the nature of that Government. Mr. Speaker, the Constitution is clear that in the performance of its duties, the Electoral Commission shall not be subject to any direction from anybody or authority, including the President and he tells us that the former President directed the Electoral Commission to take some measure - [Interruptions.] - It tells the nature of the

Government of the day at that time. They were whimsical, capricious [Uproar] - over the Constitution.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, what the
former President did was to refer the matter to the Electoral Commission. - [Uproar.] Indeed, he did not mean the way they are doing today, that is important. Mr. Speaker, the Electoral Commission came back in 1998, having surveyed the practice in ninety-seven countries, and in particular, recommended that even before the law can be amended, some practical administrative issues ought to be addressed. Dr. Afari Gyan stated this in his report to Parliament.
Mr. Speaker, we have not dealt with
Mr. K. T. Hammond 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
I plead with you that we go back to the paragraph at page 17 of the State of the Address which my hon. Friend and Colleague dealt with. Mr. Speaker, there is a point there, which my hon. Friend I am told he is also learned, is saying that the President of this country misled the people and the point is brought to bear here that it is not accurate and so he should withdraw. Mr. Speaker, the sentence is about institutions with responsibility to investigate and prosecute [Interruption.] - Mr. Speaker, it is so important that those who would listen should please listen and take note of what we are saying.
To prosecute is different from
investigation. Mr. Speaker, there are two responsibilities over there; one is to investigate and the other is to prosecute. So it does not matter that the SFO does not prosecute, it investigates, so who is he to say that the President was confused with respect to that and that he must have been talking about another institution? Mr. Speaker, he is wrong, he has misread the sentence; he must be called to withdraw it and apologise.
Mr. Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister,
Mr. K. T. Hammond 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
there was no ruling on that.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, still on
the Representation of the People's (Amendment) Bill. I think it was significant that the President himself said and I quote:
“Ten years down the road , interractions conducted across the country have unearthed both difficulties and fresh insights”.
I am just trying to demonstrate that some of the difficulties that have been unearthed are the same difficulties which advised former President Rawlings and the NDC regime to stall this process. That is the point that I am seeking to make and more importantly to see whether or not we have consulted the donors to see whether they would be generous enough to give funding for such a project abroad.
Mr. Speaker, in moving the motion a
Mr. Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Hon. Member, you are
not moving the motion.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:15 p.m.
I am seconding the
Nana Akomeah 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
challenge my hon. Colleague opposite to show this House evidence that former President Rawlings asked the Electoral Commission to do an investigation and produce a report on the modalities for the [Interruption.] -- Well, I think my hon. Colleague has withdrawn the word “directed”. I am challenging him to produce the request made to the Electoral Commission and the Electoral Commission's report as a result of that request before he can tell this House about what he is saying.
Mr. Speaker, the issue about money.
There was a time in this country when the Government said that it did not have money to do picture identification cards, yet when we resolved as a nation to give
to ourselves picture identification cards, we found the money to do the picture identification cards. So he should be accordingly guided.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to proceed and to make a comment on tertiary education and in particular university education. Mr. Speaker, as I indicated earlier, the President's State of the Nation Address did not comprehensively deal with the problems within our tertiary institutions. Indeed, in my view, the problems confronting institutions of higher learning are about inadequate infrastructure both academic and residential, poor conditions for lecturers - [Interruption]
Mr. Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Hon. Majority Chief Whip, would the time include the interruptions?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:35 p.m.
I did not
hear that, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Anyway let him go on.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:35 p.m.
So that we
Mr. Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Hon. Member for
Tamale South, please go on.
Mr. Iddrisu 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was
making a comment on higher education
and pointing out in particular the problems confronting institutions of higher learning to include inadequate academic and residential infrastructure, poor conditions of service of faculty members and lecturers and then related to it is inaccessibility to higher education. As many as sixty per cent of qualified applicants every year are sent away because of this. We needed a direction as to how to deal with this as a national problem. at the national level. I did not see it addressed. The President, indeed, even went further, -- and with your indulgence I would like to quote from page 9:
“The long-awaited Students Loan Trust has also been established…”
Where? Mr. Speaker, we cannot
establish the Students' Loan Trust without legislation. It is impossible because currently it operates under the existing Student Loan Scheme, which was a product of legislation. If they are seeking to amend it, in order to divest SSNIT from undertaking that responsibility, they ought to come properly to this House to be given the authority and mandate to set up a Students' Loan Trust. I am sure the drafters of the Statement did not help the President when he conclusively stated that the Students' Loan Trust has been established. Mr. Speaker, there is no Students' Loan Trust established in this country by any Act that I am aware of. I think it is important that we deal with the problems confronting higher education head on.
In previous State of the Nation
Addresses, he had teased the matters; this time he chose to talk about donation of buses to tertiary institutions. That will not solve the problem of higher institutions. Indeed, the money for the buses came from the vision of the previous National
Mr. Speaker 12:35 p.m.
I am sure you are winding up? Are you about to wind up?
Mr. Iddrisu 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am concluding. Mr. Speaker, I think that the true state of our nation is one of a dependent country. The President had given indications when some World Bank representatives visited him that he was going to wean the country off dependency on the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank. We did not see any policy direction of that nature either in the Budget Statement or in the State of the Nation Address.

Question proposed.
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Mr. Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Hon. Member for Okaikoi South, are you having a second bite?
Nana Akomea 12:35 p.m.
No, Mr. Speaker, on his conclusion. The matter about the Students' Loan Trust coming to Parliament, Mr. Speaker, I would seek your guidance on the matter. But the fact on the ground is that the Board has been set up; the Trust will become operational next academic year, September. [Uproar.] And that is what the President said in his State of the Nation Address - [Uproar.] that it would commence in the next academic year. If it has to come to Parliament, Mr. Speaker,
we would like your guidance on the matter.
Ms. Josephine Hilda Addoh (NPP - Kwadaso) 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thank you sincerely for this opportunity to join my hon. Colleagues to thank His Excellency, our President, Mr. J. A. Kufuor, for this sixth State of the Nation Address.
Mr. Speaker, the address, in my opinion, was is impressive. It was loaded with many interesting developments, but my focus would be on the following areas -- poor maintenance culture, the growth of the economy and employment.
Mr. Speaker, history, it is said, has something to offer us. It helps us to understand previous developments, the happenings of today, so as to forecast the future. Our history of maintenance, Mr. Speaker, is nothing to write home about; it is nothing to be proud of. It is rather disturbing and, in fact, embarrassing. It is therefore commendable that amongst other things the President is focusing on the need to change, direct and lead Ghanaians to appreciate the values in good maintenance culture. May I crave your indulgence, Mr. Speaker, to quote from page 18, paragraph 4 of His Excellency's Address:
“For so many years, we have surprisingly indulged ourselves in a destructive culture of non- maintenance. This government is determined to reverse this trend, and restore the country's prestigious properties appropriately.”
To support the above statement, the Government, we are happy to learn, has taken the needed step to rehabilitate the Ambassador Hotel, the City Hotel in Kumasi, the Peduase Lodge and the Flagstaff House which have been left to
deteriorate for so long a time. I hope this effort in rehabilitating the aforementioned structures would be extended to the National Theatre, the maintenance of which started last year, but at a very slow pace. Structures in the Ministries, departments, hospitals and schools have all been crying for rehabilitation for a long time - and in some cases, a complete face-lift.

The President proposed programmes and policies, courtesy of the Economic Policy and Budget Statement, which Parliament supported by offering criticisms here and there and finally approving them to allow for their implementation. So it has taken the combined effort of the Executive and Parliament to take us to where we are, Mr. Speaker. But as the President acknowledged, to get into the community of middle-income countries, we need a quantum leap into eight-to- en-percentage Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth rate.

So yes, indeed, Mr. Speaker, we have started well but admittedly we are not there yet. So the economist, the planners, the financial analysts, engineers and teachers, Members of Parliament and what have you among us must all put shoulders to the wheel to get the vehicle of state in a faster acceleration.

Mr. Speaker, one area of prime concern

is the unemployment in the country. His Excellency the President indicated that

some over two hundred and fifty jobs have been created over the last two years. This encouraging but we must all admit that, indeed, that is one area where, without in any indicating Government must shoulder the responsibility of creating employment for every single unemployed person.

Nevertheless, our circumstances still

oblige Government to not only facilitate the creation of employment but in many ways actually lead the way in job creation. His Excellency the President has talked about resuscitating or reviving some agro- based industries. That is also good news. But if our agriculture should be able to support such industries, we must stop our dependency on natural weather.

Mr. Speaker, we must embark on re-

fertilization of irrigation schemes whilst concentrating on small community based irrigation systems. Mr. Speaker, allowing our agriculture to be dependent on the vagaries of the weather will certainly not move agricultural production forward. And consequently, agriculture will not be able to support the agro-based industries. Already, the Government has led the way in the area of reforestation with over a hundred and fifty thousand people engaged in the endeavour. Can we imagine the many more people who will go into afforestation if we have irrigation systems complementing this effort?

Mr. Speaker, the threat of desertification

in the northern regions calls for an intensification of reafforestation of the degraded lands up country.

Mr. Speaker, how many of our children

are dropping out of school because they have to travel long distances to fetch water and firewood for their families use? How many people are living in the harsh environment up country and trooping down south in search of non-existent jobs?

The threat of desertification, of as one hon. Member said the other time, is a survival issue. This nation should confront it in my opinion, with greater determination.

Mr. Speaker, His Excellency the

President has shown the way, let us together and very dispassionately put our minds together to add muscle to the flesh to propel this nation forward.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the

opportunity afforded me.
Mr. E. K. Bandua (NDC - Biakoye) 12:45 p.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for this opportunity to speak to the motion.
Mr. Speaker, in fact, in addressing
the House, His Excellency the President observed that the nation has indulged in a culture of non-maintenance over the years. I think that is very correct; and he continued to tell us that he would want to reverse the trend by adopting some presidential projects and rehabilitating them. My problem with this is that, in fact, in looking at this trend and in trying to identify these projects and setting out his priorities, the President seems to have got it all wrong.
Yes, I am saying so because, in fact, in doing so we must look at the needs of the people before we go ahead and identify their wants. The President talked about rehabilitation of the Peduase Lodge at a cost of one fifty billion cedis and then siting a presidency at the Flagstaff House at a cost of thirty million US dollars.
Mr. Speaker, we have serious problems;
there is abject poverty in many of the rural communities -- [Interruption] - There is abject poverty in many of the rural communities and the working environment in many areas is very bad; and in fact educational institutions have very serious problems -- [Interruption.]
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Ms. Addoh 12:45 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr.
Speaker, I believe my hon. Colleague go the President wrong and the people concerned must set the priorities.
Mr. Speaker, the Government does
Mr. Bandua 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, what I am
saying is that we must prioritize our things, the things we do there must be of priority. The more important things should come first, that is the point I am making.
And I would want to say that the educational institutions are also having a lot of problems.
And Mr. Speaker, if we want to talk
about the work environment in many organizations, we would see that we have problems. Even in this very House, in Parliament, we do not have microphones ; common microphones we do not have in the House of Parliament. But we know that we have to communicate, these are to be engaged in debates. We have to debate issues and before we are able to do that effectively the facilities should be available for everybody to be able to communicate -- [Interruptions.] But we do not have microphones; do we have microphones? And we are talking about spending thirty million US dollars on a presidential palace at this time of the year
in our history. Are we serious in life?
Mr. Speaker, even in this very
Parliament we do not have offices; Members of Parliament do not have offices in the House and we walk about and take our baggage and bags and whatever it is we sit at the foyer; we come to the …… and that is where we operate from.
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Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon. Member, do you
have a point of order to raise?
Mr. Osei-Mensah 12:45 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker,
the hon. Member is misleading this House and has maybe forgotten some facts.
Mr. Speaker, we were in this country
when the Government knew there were priorities and a loan facility of twenty-five million US dollars was taken to work on the JOB 600 to accommodate Members of Parliament; where did that money go?
Mr. Speaker, when we knew we had
Mr. Bandua 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, as I was
Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Order! Order!
Mr. Bandua 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, we must work in the Chamber to help the country progress. We work before we enjoy; if we do not work we cannot enjoy; but we
do not have offices. Mr. Speaker, even committee rooms are not available.
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Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Do you want to yield
to him.
Mr. Bandua 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I will do so.
Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon. Member for Yapei/
Alhaji Seidu Amadu 12:55 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, it is on the issue of the $25 million. It is indeed true that the former Speaker of Parliament, Justice Annan, made a request for $25 million to complete the Job 600. Unfortunately, the money that was given was for budget operation services which meant that it was not a specific allocation; and that money was never given to Parliament. That amount of $25 million was never given to Parliament to rehabilitate the Job 600, so let us be very, very careful. That particular amount was never given to Parliament.
Mr. K. O. Agyapong 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Hon. Member, I am yet
to call you.
Alhaji Amadu 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, although
a request was made for that amount to complete the Job 600, Parliament never had that amount of money. It was generally meant to support the Budget and the Government used it for other priority projects within the economy. So please, let us get our facts right; and do not let us just generalize as if the money came and it was squandered.
I believe that the Government has
done a lot of forensic audits and I would have loved it for the New Patriotic Party (NPP) Government to come out with whatever report they had in respect of the issue of the $25 million instead of just generalizing that they cannot trace the money. [Interruption.] They are in charge now. The hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning is there. Why does he not tell us where the money went to?
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Mr. Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Hon. Member, have you
finished with your submission?
Mr. Bandua 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, he only
Mr. Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Order! Are you winding
up now?
Mr. Bandua 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, let me
make a few points and wind up.
Mr. Speaker, I want to add that many of
the rural communities are facing problems of abject poverty. The road networks in many areas are very bad; there are no hospital facilities. In fact, the issue of the Tamale Teaching Hospital was raised today and it shows the extent to which our hospitals have degenerated.
Mr. Speaker, I am appealing to this
Government to set its priorities right. I would appeal to the President that if he wants to help us, then priorities must be set right so that we would all benefit instead of spending huge sums of money on projects that would not be of material and economic use to the nation in the immediate future.
Mr. Speaker, on this note, I would advise that the President reconsiders his priorities and addresses the issues to the benefit of the nation at large.
Mr. Bandua 12:55 p.m.
Mr. K. O. Agyapong (NPP - Assin
North): Mr. Speaker, I want to set the records straight. My hon. Friend opposite was trying to clarify the statement made by our hon. Colleague, but he gave us false information.
As I speak today, fortunately, the hon.
Minister of Water Resources, Works and Housing is here. The contractors who did the job on Job 600, still they have not paid them the ¢32 billion. What I want him to know is that even the $12 million that was applied to the building was not used. [An hon. Member: Where is the money?] So out of the $25 million, they used $12.5 to support their Budget and applied half of that money to the Job 600. And even that, the $12.5 million that was applied, as I speak now, they refused to pay the contractors. So please, the hon. Member should not mislead the House.
D e p u t y M i n i s t e r f o r Wa t e r
Resources, Works and Housing (Ms. C. A. Dapaah): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to join my hon. Colleagues in thanking His Excellency the President, Mr. John Agyekum Kufuor for the beautiful Address that he gave us.
Mr. Speaker, I believe that we all
should agree with the President that the state of our nation is good and that the general spirit is one of optimism. I always want to see my glass as half full instead of half empty. I believe this nation needs to move forward.
After every State of the Nation Address I expect all well-meaning, patriotic citizens of this our dear nation to give constructive suggestions which will go for the development of this our dear nation, for we only have but one Ghana; we either sink with it or float with it. But I believe that the able manner in which our dear President is handling the affairs

of this nation would put us on a very high pedestal.

Mr. Speaker, our international image at this period in our history is really good. This nation is always being referred to as an oasis of peace and I believe that we all can feel that we have a palpable peace prevailing in this our dear nation, and we should never at any time take this peace for granted. I believe we should all pat ourselves on the shoulder for contributing to this peace, and I will continue to appeal to my hon. Colleagues that the discussions that we always undertake, in our homes, in this august House and in our offices, should be healthy, responsible and also constructive.

I also wish to appeal to those who own websites and the airwaves to be cautious of the fact that we are the barometers for this nation. If we heat things up the nation would be heated up; if we cool things, the nation will be cool, so we should take due note of what we say and what we do on the airwaves and on our websites.

Mr. Speaker, His Excellency also touched on the celebrations of our Golden Jubilee and he did say that there is the need for attitudinal change. We need to change our habits for the better. We need to change our attitudes in everything that we do and I will continue to add that we should also be time conscious and manage our time profitably and very well.
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Mr. A. N. Tettey-Enyo (NDC - Ada) 1:05 p.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the opportunity to support the motion on the floor.
Mr. Speaker, it is well meaning on the part of the President to describe the state of the nation as good and the spirit of the nation as that of optimism. But I hope hon. Members of this House
Ms. Dapaah 1:05 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr.
Speaker, if I may crave your indulgence, I believe my hon. senior Colleague should know that if he wants to pose a Question to the hon. Minister for Water Resources, Works and Housing he can do that at
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:05 p.m.
Hon.
Member, that is not a point of order.
Mr. Tettey-Enyo 1:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am
reacting in this way because the tendency now concerning the State of the Nation Address is for us to make our own assessment of the nature of the statement that we are making.
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Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:05 p.m.
Hon.
Deputy Minority Whip, do you have a point of order?
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
Mr. Tettey-Enyo 1:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I just want to make another illustration about the way and manner in which people of one of the constituencies of his Excellency the President would not appreciate - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:05 p.m.
Order!
Order! Let us have attention of the House to the contributions that are being made. Hon. Member, continue.
Mr. Tettey-Enyo 1:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the
President, two to three years ago, I think three years ago in 2003, commissioned a district hospital at Ada. The supporting staff engaged since then have not received their salaries so the response by the people immediately this Address was read was that we should try and make the President know the truth. We appreciate the President's efforts in fulfilling his constitutional obligation by coming to the
House to make this State of the Nation Address; we need to thank him.
But of course, we should also know that this is the occasion on which we should direct the nation's attention to some of the things that we ought to do together in making the rigorous, purposeful and effective approach to the business of governance in this country.

Mr. Speaker, I wish in this regard to also bring to the notice of hon. Members of this House that two years into the “Positive Change Chapter 2,” there is no District Chief Executive in the Dangbe East District. Therefore, the aspect of the condition of nation which the President lauded as providing good governance is not in reality appreciated by the people of that district. The absence of the District Chief Executive, as you all know or most hon. Colleagues in this House know, makes the work of the district very difficult, especially when the Government's appointees have even been withdrawn - [Interruption] -- especially when the members, the appointed members -- the government appointees have been withdrawn and therefore there is no possibility of even getting the Assembly to reconstitute or convene to look at urgent matters. We would like the sector Ministries connected with the issues I have raised to make, as I have said, the President know the truth by rising to the occasion and making the tone and purpose of the State of the National Address really important to all sections of the country.

Now, to a number of issues raised

on that important area or segment of the State of the Nation's Address -- the human resource development. The hon.
Mrs. Grace Coleman 1:15 a.m.
On a point
of order. Mr. Speaker, what is the hon. Member talking about; that we are not sure? Does he have anything to tell us that has not been done? Or did we need to bring it to his table for him to know that it has been done? We do not get it; we are not sure - [Interruption.] He said he made this statement only this week. What is he talking about?
Mr. Tettey-Enyo 1:15 a.m.
I think my hon.
Mrs. Coleman 1:15 a.m.
On a point of order.
Mr. Speaker, it was a State of the Nation's Address and it was not supposed to be a whole book or a whole encyclopaedia. So he has made an Address, the rest of it is up to us, if we want, to look for where we will get the information. We do not
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:15 a.m.
Hon.
Member, this issue was raised earlier and we should not overflog it. Please wind up; you have gone almost twice the usual time.
Mr. Tettey-Enyo 1:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, on
this very issue of the Trust, we think if the implementation will start from September this year, then it will be necessary for the details of the loan scheme to be made public and all of us educated on the terms of the loan. We have limited time to do that, so that we all understand the process of getting the Trust working appropriately.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:15 a.m.
Give
one only.
Mr. Tettey-Enyo 1:15 a.m.
You make the
use of the grant flexible enough for the head teachers to use their own initiatives since the thing should be prioritised; and secondly by providing a special grant or relief to cater for the examination and the evaluation of teaching.
Mr. Speaker, of my hon. Colleagues
would like to speak on the subject so I will stop here and say we are sincerely grateful to the President for keeping his constitutional mandate up and coming to this House to address us.
Mr. Benjamin Ayeh (NPP - Upper Denkyira East) 1:25 p.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the opportun8ity to associate myself with the motion on the floor.

Mr. Speaker, as leaders, if we refuse to see the good things in the Address delivered by the President, then we would be denying not only ourselves but our constituents the chance even to explore the good opportunities mentioned in the Address. And we would then be behaving like a typical rural parent who just points to the number of school dropouts in his or her village as examples to his children as to why they should not go to school instead of looking up for at least that one single person who has made it through education as a way of encouraging his or her kids.
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Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, do you have a point of order to make?
Mr. Abayateye 1:25 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague made a statement attached to the rural parent. And I think it is unfair to say it is the rural parent whose child fails But worst things are happening in the urban areas, so I think that, that allusion to the rural parent is wrong.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, what I got him to be saying was that it is the parent, even if it is in the rural place, who will look at the failure of one person and say that therefore his words should not go to school, but then they should rather look positively to the one who has made it; so you did not get him right.
Hon. Member, please go on.
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Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon.
Deputy Minority Whip?
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker tried very had to polish what he said. Given what he said, it is unfortunate; there are many rural parents, illiterates who would have turned out professors but because they did not get the advantage that others got - they could have become professors. So what is he talking about - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minority Whip, the matter has been decided fairly and I do not know why - Please go on.
Mr. Ayeh 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, under Human
Resource, the President talks for example, about the capitation grant. I go back to my constituency and I see enrolment in school increased. I would not be surprised if statistics proves that those areas where the enrolment is not improving have the type of leadership who are not seeing these good things in the Address delivered by the President. The President talks about teachers and here it is interesting to note that the days when we used to say the reward of teachers was in heaven are over. And I am sure the President has recognized that; not only does he talk about a hire purchase system to help them acquire their own transport, he also talks about schemes being put in place to enable them own their own houses inn addition to paying for the full time tuition for those who engage in distance learning programmes.
Aga in , unde r p r i va t e s ec to r, the President, having identified the unavailability of long term finance as a major problem to business, talks about the Venture Capital Fund having been operationalized and we learnt about twenty million dollars having been launched into that account. Those of us who come from rural constituencies, especially, the issue is how many of our constituents even understand or know the existence of such facilities. I believe it is up to us as leaders to help our rural people to know that such facilities and others, which were equally mentioned, like the export development fund, exist and lead them to wherever they can access these facilities to improve their lot.
The President again talks about micro loan schemes; what are we doing as leaders to help our constituents take advantage of these schemes?
Mr. Speaker, I am glad to see that these days wherever we go - I will not be surprised that if we go to the foyer now we will see one of them down there - banks are chasing us with credit facilities. And
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Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:25 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Friend is misleading this House and he is still doing so. Talking about good times, are we in good times? [Some hon. Members: Yes!] Early this morning, nine hon. Members had their new cars broken into and the tapes were stolen from them. It is the responsibility of Government to make sure that they are provided with security. Are we in good times? At the end of it we have just come for the - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minority Whip, what you are raising is not a po9int of order, you are expressing an opinion.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the other aspect - [Interruption.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
So please resume your seat.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the other aspect was that he was talking abut micro finance - [Uproar.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Please resume your seat. The hon. Member, I said it is not a point of order - [Interruptions.] Order! Order! The hon. Member was just quoting the words of the President in his State of the Nation Address about the good times and if you are taking issue with him for saying so that is misplaced.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the President was saying that - [Interruption.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, when it comes to yo9ur turn you can raise that. Please, hon. Member, go on.
Mr. Ayeh 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would not be surprised if in a month to come, even if we do not want to take a credit facility, by the time we go to our banks they would have credited us with something - [Laughter.]
Mr. Owusu-Agyapong 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want us to set the records straight again.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
What are you raising?
Mr. Owusu-Agyapong 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member was saying that our hon. Colleagues vehicles were broken into and therefore it is the duty of the President - [Interruptions.] I would want to correct him - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, you are out of order.
Mr. Agyapong 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is the duty of the Leadership, and he is a member of the Leadership - [Interruption.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, Order! Order I ruled him out of order, so what he said, do not take that on. He has been ruled out of order. Hon. Member, please continue.
Mr. Ayeh 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, under employment generation the President talks about over two hundred and fifty thousand jobs having been created over the past two years with about eighty three thousand in the road sector alone; and people raised issue with permanency - [Interruption.] Then I ask myself this question, the mason or the carpenter who gets a sub
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Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, do you have a point of order to raise?
Mr. Hodogbey 1:25 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member is deceiving this House in the sense that the fact that hon. Members of Parliament get credit facilities does not necessarily mean that the ordinary person in the street has the same privileges and opportunities like Members of Parliament. Therefore, for him to say that banks are now chasing us to get credit facilities is too misleading. It is not everybody in the country who is enjoying the same thing.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
Hon. Member, that is not a point of order. Hon. Member, can you go on - [Interrup-tions.]
Mr. Ayeh 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was talking about the President talking about over 250,000 jobs having been created and people raising issues with permanency. And I asks myself this question, that the carpenter or a mason who gets a subcontract of say about five or six million cedis job and completes this job within two to four weeks, and that teacher or secretary who earns ¢500,000 a month and for that matter takes a whole year to make that same six million cedis which of these two people would be better off?
Will the teacher or that secretary who always puts on a tie and goes to school or work for the whole year before making six million cedis be better off than that carpenter or mason who even though got
the job temporary for just two or four weeks, has been able to make that six million cedis in that four weeks? Would that teacher say he is better off than that mason? The answer obviously is no.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
Order! Order!
Mr. Ayeh 1:35 p.m.
All one has to do as I have done is to go and look for how one's constituents can benefit from such facilities. Mr. Speaker, I believe the time has come - [Interruption.]
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Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
Hon. Member for Lawra/Nandom, a point of order?
Dr. Kunbuor 1:35 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, I think my hon. Colleague is not only misleading this House but he is dangerously misleading the entire country as to the constitutional responsibility of a Member of Parliament. It is precisely because of statements like this that the MPs work is to source loans for their constituencies that we run into difficulties. Our constitutional duty as Member of Parliament is spelt out clearly and it is important that we stay with that than assuming a responsibility that nobody imposes on us.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
Hon. Member, he is offering advice, do you take it?
Mr. Ayeh 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, maybe the difference between my senior friend and myself is, even though I am a Member of Parliament I still see myself as a leader of
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
Hon. Member, please wind up.
Mr. Ayeh 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the point is, as I was trying to say, we have to help our people; a time has come to reshape their mindset as to white-collar jobs being the only decent employment that they can find. After al, our grandparents built mansions and made fortunes out of farming and petty trading and the rest. If we just continue to grumble - even in biblical times, in the Old Testament the manna did not fall on people's dining tables, the manna fell somewhere ad people had to walk some distance to look for it. Again, in New Testament times when Zacdzeous recognized that he was vertically challenged he had to climb a tree to catch a glimpse of the Saviour. So Mr. Speaker, I believe we have to look for these good opportunities in the President's Address and encourage our constituents to take advantage of them.
On the Representation of the People (Amendment) Bill (ROPAB), I want to be brief on this because the time would come for us to talk about it. When we talk abut the West Africa Gas Pipeline, when we talk about the Tetteh Quarshie Interchange, when we talk about the 37 Military Hospital our hon. Friends on the other side take credit that they started it [Hear! Hear!] In any case, Mr. Speaker [Interruption.]
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member is misleading this House. When the President made reference to the 1996 State of the Nation Address he told the House one side of the story. But they
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minority Chief Whip, you are seeking to explain what was attributed to the former President. The issue he raised was that your side of the House is not taking ownership of that reference and that in other areas you do. If you want to raise a point of order of misleading, you simply say it is true or not true. But if you go on to explain the full content of that, that is out of order.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, he made a point. We have not disowned the principle of ROPAB; we looked at the two and dealt with one; and we were the ones who passed that information to the Electoral Commission in 1998 before they did the survey. So I am saying that the President should have told us the whole story and not one side of the story - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
Order! Order!
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, as you rightly observed, the point of order that he sought was really not a point of order. But in any event I want to believe that it is for reasons of the Chair describing the Deputy Whip as a “chief,” that is why he takes liberties and strays into other areas. Mr. Speaker, the Deputy Whip is a Deputy Minority Whip; he is not the Deputy Minority Chief Whip. Mr. Speaker, when you call the hon. E. T. Mensah ‘Chief” he over-indulges himself. So I would implore the Chair to address him as Deputy Minority Whip and not
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon. Majority Chief Whip, your point is noted but it was not a point of order. Can you wind up, please?
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, he
is too obsessed about this - I have been a chief - [Interruption] I can be a chief in my town, a Mankrado in my town. I am not obsessed by positions. Some people - [Interruption.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon.
Member, talk only when you are called. That was completely out of order.
Hon. Member for Upper Denkyira
West, can you please wind up.
Mr. Ayeh 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thank my
Dr. Ben. Kunbuor 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, just
to correct the record. Mr. Speaker, it looks
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon.
Member for Lawra/Nandom, that was not a point of order.
Mr. Ayeh 1:45 p.m.
Interestingly, while they
run away from the committee meetings I am only the non-legal brain on that Committee. [Interruption] Anyway, Mr. Speaker, to conclude, as I was saying, I would like to reiterate what the President said that the vision and policies are right, the structures are in place and a firm foundation has created the plateau to serve as a springboard. Let us take advantage of this springboard and live to further development in freedom.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Please
even if your name is here you have to rise so that you can be recognized. Hon. Member for Hohoe South? - [Pause] -- Just one moment. Hon. Majority Leader, what is the idea? It is just about 12 minutes to 2 o'clock, would we end or have extended Sitting? We will have extended sitting. Very well. Make it brief.
Mr. J. Z. Amenowode (NDC - Hohoe
South): Mr. Speaker, I will try. Mr. Speaker, I thank you for giving me the opportunity to thank the President for taking time off his busy schedule to come to Parliament to express his views on the state of the nation. Mr. Speaker, as I stand here, I have a sense of deja vu because at least for the third time since I came to this House we have kept on hearing the same things over and over. We have kept on
Mr. Akwasi Osei-Adjei 1:45 p.m.
On a point
of order. Mr. Speaker, I think my hon. Friend is trying to mislead not only this House but the whole country by saying that the President came here to express his views. That is not what is written in the Constitution - “came here to express his views.” I think it is wrong. If you look at the Constitution it does not say that the President should come here to express his views, no. Mr. Speaker, I want your direction on this before I can move on.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon.
Member, undoubtedly, to talk about the state of the nation means referring to certain concrete happenings or projections. In doing that certain views can be expressed because of the nature of some particular issues. So if you generalize it as if he came only to express his views that may be misleading. So please be guided by that and go on.
Mr. Amenowode 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am
supporting a motion which was moved by hon. Akomea and he said the President came here to express his views. So I am supporting what he said.
Mr. Speaker, on teachers, it is gratifying to note, because I am a teacher, that Government has plans to introduce housing and car - But my fear is whether this is a political talk or a reality. My hon. Friend from Upper Denkyira (Mr. Ayeh) has helped us in this House to put things into perspective. He says a teacher earning ¢6 million per annum and a carpenter -- in one of his statements. My question is, how can a teacher earning ¢6 million per annum be able to own a house and a car?
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 1:45 p.m.
On a point
Mr. Amonowode 1:45 p.m.
It might be bicycles, I think that could be afforded.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to go to another very important point, that is, on employment. Mr. President announced that within the past two years his Government was able to create about 250,000 jobs and seriously I do not support those who think it is not true. I really support it and I think it even was an under statement because policies of this Government has created more than 250,000 jobs, if we understand “job” to be earning some money in your pocket. So I will say the policies of this Government, in my estimation, have created over 300,000 jobs made up of 150,000 street beggars and another 150,000 special assistants to the street beggars. Those are the people who carry them along, so they have created more that 250,000 jobs -- [Laughter] Mr. Speaker, the President also - [Interruption.]
Mr. Ayeh 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think my
hon. Colleague over there is misleading this House. While we are creating jobs for people to earn monies in their pockets they were creating verandah boys and girls on the streets - [Hear! Hear!] - While their children slept in air-conditioned rooms. So he should address himself to

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Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon. Member for Upper Denkyira West, you have not raised a proper point of order. Yes, please go on.
Mr. Amenowode 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
Mr. A. O. Aidooh 1:45 p.m.
On a point of
order. Mr. Speaker, can the hon. Member prove that we have created 150,000 street beggars and 150,000 assistant street beggars? Can he just - [Interruption] -- No, I want the source. If he cannot substantiate this assertion I think he must withdraw.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon.
Member, the point that the hon. Member is raising is that the creation of the jobs that you were talking about - What jobs were created were asserted and then you are also talking of street beggars and so on, he wants your source - as a creation of government.
Mr. Amenowode 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, this
Mr. A. O. Aidooh 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
think my hon. Colleague should treat this House with a lot more respect than he is doing. Mr. Speaker, when we talk about job creation and talk figures supporting the assertion that one makes, we have as a nation the officially recognized source of such data, one cannot just come and stand here and say he is the primary source. Mr. Speaker, he must give us source from the officially recognized national data centre
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon.
Member, you are running into some difficulty because the jobs that have been indicated in the Address have been identified to certain specific areas. If you think that the Government had created other jobs which you want to credit to it, then you have to show how the Government has created or gone about it. Otherwise, the fact that you have observed some other things and that was not stated by the President in his Address, you have to justifiably say that the Government created it, then you can have a ground.
Mr. Amenowode 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, in
commenting on the State of the Nation Address by His Excellency the President, and I am trying to say that he has created more than the 250,000 jobs by adding another 300,000 making 550, 000. Now, all the jobs stated in the Address have no source; they were just mentioned with the figures. And I am saying that when one asks for source, we have primary source and secondary source. I am the primary source. I am saying that that is what I see around; I do not have to bring any other secondary source, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon.
Member, I want to reduce the number of interventions and that is why I want you to be very clear so that we avoid this. There is a difference between a statement saying that this has been created and then you can attribute something else through the statement. It is not just that you have seen it or you have not seen it. But beggars, -- Definitely the statement did not say that they have created jobs and that you can see beggars and their assistants and so on; otherwise, one could even go ahead to say that armed robbery is a job created by the Government.
So you have to be very mindful
Mr. Amenowode 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do
Mr. Osei-Adjei 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think
my hon. Friend should be guided. This is the august House of the Republic of Ghana and things that are said here should be about serious business. Mr. Speaker, not only people in the Public gallery but the whole world is listening to us and I do not expect my Friend He is making an emphatic statement. So Mr. Speaker, with your indulgence if the hon. Friend could see what we are trying to do by withdrawing so that we can go ahead, because what he is doing is bringing this House into disrepute.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Hon.
Member, I have been trying to guide you. [Interruption]- Order! I have been trying to guide you so that you do not wade into troubled water. If you attribute to the President something that is negative and he did not add it to the positive things he said the Government had created, then you will have to be very sure that it is something he inadvertently left out but which he consciously as a government created. So that is the point I want to put across not that anyone is doubting that you have seen beggars or not seen beggars on the streets. That is not the issue. But it is a

negative attribute that you are associating yourself with.

And unless you want to say that government has set out to create jobs by putting beggars on the streets then it is not an acceptable statement.
Mr. Amenowode 1:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I said
I do not want to drag this. I am learning and I want to be advised, I am going to learn very, very well. If we say that because the whole world is listening when we mention that there are about 300,000 beggars in Ghana it is an affront to this nation then I do not see why we allowed the Statement on the floor of this House the other time, talking about the proliferation of beggars in this country. So I do not want to drag this House - Iam saying that it is my primary source of estimating the number of beggars which is the result of the policies and if - Mr. Speaker, hon. Speaker, I could sense some threats there and I do not want to say I am threatened or frightened, but I will go on and make my other point. I would say I would reserve this until I conclude my research and then I would come back.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 1:45 p.m.
Let me
make it clear to you that the Chair does not threaten and the Chair does not intend to threaten you. I have been trying hard to let you get a very clear sense of attributing something to the Address which is your personal observation. It is a very simple distinction. There have been beggars all along and no Government would, as a matter of policy, put beggars there and say it has created jobs of beggars and claim it as an achievement, that is the point I want you to understand.
Minority Leader (Mr. A. S. K. Bagbin) 2:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, jobs are created by
Mr. First Deputy Speaker 2:05 p.m.
Order!
Order!
Mr. Bagbin 2:05 p.m.
Definitely, we are all
aware that the Government dismissed so many people -- from Mobilization, Non-Formal education, District Chief Executives (DCEs) And in fact, after the dismissals they were not paid their entitlements. These people have petitioned a number of times to the President - I have some copies of the petitions talking about the fact that they are unemployed, they are now begging, they cannot pay school fees of their children - [Interruption.] - Yes, these are some of the things that have created the begging and if one goes to the mosques, if one goes to the churches and if one goes to the traffic lights, one you will see the new type of employment - beggars.
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 2:05 p.m.
Hon.
Minority Leader, you should make things easier for us. Those you are referring to, you do not find them in the streets in the manner that he has referred to. Those he is referring to, the DCEs [Interruption.] -- Order! Hon. Minority Leader, the DCEs and those you are talking about, when they say technically they are beggars, they are not referring to those on the streets.
Mr. Hackman Owusu-Agyemang 2:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, for a moment I thought the hon. Minority Leader was really trivializing the whole debate in the House, but I realized that being my friend, he was maybe making a couple of jokes. Because
Mr. Owusu-Agyemang 2:05 p.m.
Let us be serious. We have been here all along, we have listened - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Second Deputy Speaker 2:05 p.m.
Order! We are not having extended Sitting, it is passed two; the House is adjourned till tomorrow ten o'clock. [Hear! Hear!]
ADJOURNMENT 2:05 p.m.

  • The House was adjourned at 2.07 p.m. till 9th February, 2006 at 10:00 a.m.