Debates of 11 Nov 2006

MR. SPEAKER
PRAYERS 10 a.m.

CORRECTION OF VOTES 10 a.m.

AND PROCEEDINGS AND THE 10 a.m.

OFFICIAL REPORT 10 a.m.

Mr. Speaker 10 a.m.
Order! Order! Correction of Votes and Proceeding, of Thursday, 9th November, 2006. Pages 1. . .7 -
Ms. Cecilia Abena Dapaah 10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, page 7, number 28, hon. Hackman Owusu-Agyemang was absent, with permission, but he has been listed as having been absent without permission.
Mr. Speaker 10 a.m.
All right. Pages 8. . .12. Hon. Members, we have the Official Report for Tuesday, 7th November 2006.
Item 4 - Question. Is the hon. Minister for Water Resources here?
rose
Mr. Speaker 10 a.m.
Hon. Member for Fanteakwa, do you have anything to say?
Mr. Agyei-Addo 10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to draw your attention to a report in today's Daily Guide which is very misleading. At the back page, there is a report headlined “Minority criticizes lotto”. You will find that in paragraph 6, what is said there did not actually happen. With your permission, I want to read just a portion of the paragraph.
“Also, the Committee recom- mended the establishment of the
National Lotto Service to govern, own and operate lotto in the country.”
Mr. Speaker, this is very inaccurate; we never recommended that.
Mr. Speaker 10 a.m.
Thank you for pointing this out.
Mr. F. K. Owusu-Adjapong -- rose
-- 10 a.m.

Mr. Speaker 10 a.m.
Hon. Majority Leader, you were on your feet.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was just trying to draw your attention to item 3 -
Mr. Speaker 10 a.m.
Oh! There is item 3; yes, that is the case. I am sorry for that. Item 3, Business Statement for the week.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE 10 a.m.

Majority Leader/Minister for Parliamentary Affairs (Mr. F. K. Owusu-Adjapong) 10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Business Committee met on Thursday, 9th November 2006 and determined Business of the House for the Third Week ending Friday, 17th November 2006.
Mr. Speaker, the Committee presents its report to this honourable House as follows 10 a.m.
Arrangement of Business
Question(s)
Mr. Speaker, the Committee has scheduled four (4) Ministers to respond to various Questions.
The details are as follows:
No. of Question(s)
i. Minister for Tourism and Diaspora Relations 3
ii. Minister for Presidential Affairs 3
iii. Minister for the Interior 7
iv. Minister for Energy 5
Total Number of Questions 18
Mr. Speaker, in all, Eighteen (18) Questions have been scheduled to be answered during the week.
Statements
Mr. Speaker may allow Statements duly admitted to be made on the floor of the House.
Bills, Papers and Reports
Mr. Speaker, Bills, Papers and Reports may be presented to the House for consideration and those which have already been presented to the House, may be taken through the various stages of passage.
Motions and Resolutions
Mr. Speaker, motions may be debated and the appropriate Resolutions taken where required.
Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the year 2007
Mr. Speaker, the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the year 2007 would be presented to the House on Thursday, 16th November 2006.
Mr. Speaker, a workshop would be
organized for Leadership of the House and Committee Leadership on Friday, 24th November 2006. Details of the said workshop would soon be communicated.
Conclusion
Mr. Speaker, in accordance with Standing Order 160 (2) and subject to Standing Order 53, the Committee submits to this honourable House the order in which the Business of the House shall be taken during the week.

Questions --

Minister for Tourism and Diaspora Relations - 612, 748, 823

Minister for Presidential Affairs -

711, 824 & 825

Laying of Papers

Consideration Stage of Bills --

National Lotto Bill

Committee Sittings.

Questions --

Minister for the Interior - 519, 640,

644, 672, 673, 674 & 675

Laying of Papers --

Report of the Joint Committee on Gender and Children and Const i tut ional , Legal and Parliamentary Affairs on the Domestic Violence Bill.

Report of the Finance Committee on the Insurance Bill.
Mr. Speaker, the Committee presents its report to this honourable House as follows 10 a.m.
Consideration Stage of Bills --
Foreign Exchange Bill
Committee Sittings.

Motion --

That this honourable House approves the Financial Policy of the Government for the year ending 31st December 2007.

Questions --

Minister for Energy - 449, 486, 487,

523 & 524

Laying of Papers --

Report of the Committee on C o n s t i t u t i o n a l , L e g a l a n d Parliamentary Affairs on the Interpretation Bill.

Motions --

Second Reading of Bills.

Insurance Bill.

Third Reading of Bills --

National Lotto Bill

Foreign Exchange Bill

Committee Sittings.
Mr. C. S. Hodogbey 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, prior to the Offinso bye-elections our President made a statement regarding the
made, to reconsider the Statements and give me a chance.
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
This is not a matter which is before me today, so I cannot make any comments.
Mr. A. K. Agbesi 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, last week the Chairman of the Business Committee announced the Business for the week and specifically, it was in the Business Statement that today, Friday, that the Minister for Road Transport would be in this House. In fact, the Minority took serious objection as to who was coming to answer those Questions.
Mr. Speaker, surprisingly, today the Minister has not been listed. What is even serious, Mr. Speaker, is that the Business for next week has not even captured the Minister's coming before this House. We have put down very serious - not harmless - Questions on road development for our various constituencies which the Minister is to come and answer today and maybe next week. Mr. Speaker, the matter for the Minister is conspicuously missing from the list.
I want to know from the Chairman and the Majority Leader what is going to happen to those Questions, which we have even informed our constituents about. We called them on telephone that they should listen today because we are going to ask those Questions - and the Questions are not there.
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
Majority Leader, you may wish to comment, except, hon. Member for Ashaiman, I am sure you had a copy of the Order Paper yesterday containing the Provisional Order Paper. I think you should have advised them not to come. In any case, the Majority Leader may wish to comment on that.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
security of this nation or, in other words, plans to overthrow the Government of Ghana. After that the media, especially the Enquirer made a publication which was defended by, I think, one Brigadier Otchere on radio.
I am of the view that the Business Committee should arrange to bring either the Minister for National Security or the Defence Minister to brief Parliament, because the nation has been put into panic; but I do not know if that has been planned. I think we should have some time for the Minister for National Security to come and brief Parliament on this issue.
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
Hon. Member, these are matters I wish you would take up with the Leadership.
Mr. Stephen Kunsu 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I submitted two very important and harmless Statements about: (1) The proliferation of profane songs in Ghana, and (2) the poor state of affairs at the Kintampo Secondary School, over a year ago. Mr. Speaker, these Statements are of special significance to the House and the whole nation - [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
Are you dealing with the Business Statement for today?
Mr. Kunsu 10:10 a.m.
Well, it is somewhat connected.
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
I do not think they are connected, but the point you made is interesting - they are harmless. If they are harmless, what is your problem? You have no problem at all with it.
Mr. Kunsu 10:10 a.m.
So Mr. Speaker, may I crave your indulgence, since it is your prerogative to allow Statements to be
I once again advise hon. Colleagues that with some of these things you get better solutions if you discuss with your leadership or the Leadership of the House because first, the Questions that have been slated for next week Friday - Energy - are equally important Questions. And when we programme and you miss your turn, we need to find out whether we can reprogramme you; and who says that Transportation should by all means come? Unless he wants to tell me that Energy issues are not very important, then it means there is nothing wrong with what has been done.
Secondly, the directives of Mr. Speaker that day was that Leadership should discuss and get solutions to the problem. Leadership is yet to meet on the matter and I can assure him that immediately Leadership takes a decision on this matter, things would be clear for all of us to move on. But I am sure that the Questions that are going to be asked by hon. Colleagues next Friday, in place of the Questions that would have been answered by the Minister for Transportation, are also very important.
Again, today, we need to look at certain loans which would have to be inputed into next week's Budget Statement and definitely we cannot say that the Budget should be read before we look at them. I have been assured by the Finance Committee that they have done a very useful job, and therefore we felt that instead of bringing these Questions, we should now have these loans brought in and handled.
Today being Friday, I am sure we all know that we try to close early so that our Muslim brothers would go and worship at the appropriate time. So we are mindful of the demands and exigencies of everybody, and therefore he should stay cool.
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
Item 4 - Questions. Majority Leader, is the Minister around?
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday, the Deputy Minister assured us that she would be in a position to answer the Question. I therefore crave your indulgence to allow her to answer the question.
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
All right.
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 10:10 a.m.

MINISTRY OF WATER RESOURCES, 10:10 a.m.

WORKS AND HOUSING 10:10 a.m.

Alhaji Amadu B. Sorogho 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, today, I feel very sad. I feel sad in the sense that I emphasized “solved” when I asked the question, but from the hon. Deputy Minister's Answer, it is clearly indicated that the water problem in Madina cannot be solved in the immediate term, not even in the long-term.
Mr. Speaker, going through the Answer,
the hon. Deputy Minister indicates that the Madina area is fed from the Okponglo water treatment point. Mr. Speaker, the areas in Madina are served from the overhead tank at Legon and not Okponglo. And the water is so scanty, so small that the same amount of water which was pumped for the area when the student population was three thousand is the same amount now that the student population in Legon is about thirty thousand. So in effect, Mr. Speaker, no water comes to Madina at all.
The hon. Deputy Minister indicated that
some contractors had been contracted to drill boreholes; who are those contractors, where are they located, when did they start working and when will they finish the work?
Ms. Dapaah 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I did
mention in my Answer that the contractors had started the drilling of boreholes and it will take six months. And my hon. Colleague is emphasizing that the water problem in Madina will never be solved. That, Mr. Speaker, is not true. I would emphasize here that it has taken the personal intervention of His Excellency the President to secure a loan as well as a grant from Areeba to put in place a new system at Weija to make sure that problem is solved. So if he says that the problem will never be solved, that is not the case.
Again , i f he wants to pose a
supplementary question to find out whether we could give him the names of the contractors, I would take that and supply him the names of the contractors later.
Alhaji Sorogho 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon.
Deputy Minister mentioned a twenty- million dollar grant which was given by Scancom, operators of Areeba to help in the solution of the water problem in the eastern corridors of Accra, including Madina. In the hon. Deputy Minister's response, she said they were sourcing funds from a Chinese company. May I know from her
what has become of the twenty-million- dollar grant which was meant specifically to solve the water problem in Madina and its environs?
Ms. Dapaah 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I believe
my hon. Colleague is a bit confused. He is mixing up two issues. One, there is an expansion programme to be undertaken at Weija and that is a fact. That was where I emphasized that it took the personal intervention of a caring President like President J. A. Kufuor to make sure that this problem is solved. Mr. Speaker, the total amount for the East-West loop system is thirty million dollars and not twenty million dollars. It was Areeba which granted us twenty million dollars to start the project.
Mr. F. Kamel 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, power
interruptions have sometimes been the cause of very ineffective water rationing programmes the Ministry has instituted. I want to know if her Ministry is collaborating with the Ministry of Energy to find out the cause of these power interruptions and how they intend to resolve them.
Ms. Dapaah 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I believe the
collaboration is effective at the level of the Ghana Water Company Limited and the Electricity Company of Ghana. They are indeed collaborating because they both feel the need to provide enough water for these areas and as and when it is necessary, we collaborate at the ministerial level.
Mr. Tanko Abdul-Rauf Ibrahim 10:20 a.m.
Mr.
Speaker, in the hon. Deputy Minister's Answer, paragraph 5, she said and with your permission I quote:
“Mr. Speaker, in the long-term, a
Ms. Dapaah 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is the norm in our Ministry to use our own technical personnel to do the technical proposals and commit experts also to do the design. It was not the Chinese company that submitted the design. The company collaborated at the technical level with our own personnel to do the design and as I speak, there is no cost to it.
Maj. (Dr.) (Alhaji) Mustapha Ahmed (retd): Mr. Speaker, this water shortage is not only restricted to Madina. Indeed, this morning as I was coming here the whole of Nima had no water and people were walking towards the Airport Residential area to find water. I would like to know from the hon. Deputy Minister what the Ministry is doing immediately to solve this entire water shortage problem in the city of Accra.
Mr. Speaker 10:20 a.m.
Hon. Member - you know it yourself. That is not a supplementary question.
Mr. Alfred Kwame Agbesi 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the question posed is when the perennial water problem facing Abokobi- Madina, especially Madina township and its surrounding areas will be solved.
Mr. Speaker, the residents of Abokobi- Madina, including Legon areas have been suffering and suffering. The hon. Deputy Minister is to tell us, those of us who live there, with all the arrangements they have made, when will this problem be solved?
Mr. Speaker 10:30 a.m.
Hon. Member for Ashaiman, I thought this was the Question she was attempting to answer. If you have a specific question, please ask her.
Mr. Agbesi 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, she has
Mr. Speaker 10:30 a.m.
Deputy Minister, if you
want to answer, you may answer it.
Ms. Dapaah 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I believe
Mr. Speaker 10:30 a.m.
Deputy Minister for
Water Resources, Works and Housing, thank you for appearing to answer this Question. You are discharged.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
crave your indulgence to allow the Deputy Minister to perform this duty on behalf of the Minister.
PAPERS 10:30 a.m.

Mr. Speaker 10:30 a.m.
(b) Minister for Health.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
I want to crave your indulgence to allow the hon. Colleague Member of Parliament and Deputy Minister for Health to lay the document on behalf of the Minister for Health.
By the Deputy Minister (Mr. Samuel Owusu-Agyei) (on behalf of the Minister for Health) --
P r o p o s e d F o r m u l a f o r t h e Distribution of Subsidies to be paid to Licensed District Mutual Health Insurance Schemes for the year
2006.
Referred to the Committee of the Whole.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would have wished that I caught your
eye before you referred this matter to the Committee of the Whole. I am raising a preliminary objection to the laying of the Proposed Formula for the Distribution of Subsidies to be paid to the Licensed District Mutual Health Insurance Schemes for the year 2006. Mr. Speaker, I do so because under the Financial Statement and the Appropriation Bill -- we are aware from the Business Statement for this week that on Tuesday, we would be considering the Budget Estimates for 2007. I therefore consider it repugnant that a Paper is being laid at the end of the 2006 fiscal year for purposes of distribution of money under that for the National Health Insurance Scheme.
There has been gross disrespect to the National Health Insurance Act, and for that matter we should not allow this Paper to be laid. The year has ended, we are told that on Tuesday they are coming to read the Budget for 2007, and we are now laying the Paper in November for 2006 fiscal year.
Mr. Speaker, this is repugnant to the existing law and I think that the Minister for Health must withdraw this and come back properly and explain to this House why for the whole year, he did not consider it prudent to respect the National Health Insurance Act.
Mr. Speaker 10:30 a.m.
Hon. Member for
Tamale South, you can raise this matter later when the matter comes before the House. But whatever it is, it has been laid, so that is it. [Interruptions.] I am sorry for that.
Item 7 -- Motions, Chairman of the Committee of Selection.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
my hon. Colleague, the Minority Chief Whip, would want us to shift this to next week Tuesday. There is delayed information and I am sorry for not briefing you earlier.
Mr. Speaker 10:30 a.m.
It is deferred. Item
BILLS -- SECOND READING 10:30 a.m.

Mr. S. Sallas-Mensah (NDC - Upper West Akim) 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to contribute to the motion on the floor.
Mr. Speaker, this Bill is actually long overdue. Some of us since 1994, have been calling for the amendment of this Act 71, the Foreign Exchange Control Act, but it looks like my efforts have yielded dividend now as my Minority Leader wants to put it.
Mr. Speaker, let us look at some practical aspects which this Bill is going to deal with. For example, in the Foreign Exchange Control Act of 1971, you are only allowed to take $3,000 as basic travel allowance out of this country, but what do we see now? People are taking $5,000, $10,000 out of the country and if you are not lucky at the security check points, they ask you how much you have and you state anything more than US$3,000, they tell
Mr. Lee Ocran (NDC - Jomoro) 10:50 a.m.
Mr.
Speaker, the Exchange Control Act of 1971 is aphoristic at this time. The Bill came into being at a time there was shortage of foreign exchange and there was the need to ration the use of cash. I think, since 1989 when foreign exchange bureau came into being, this idea of rationing foreign exchange had become open.
However, I seem not to agree with the hon. Member who just spoke (hon. Sallas- Mensah) that people can carry across as much as $20,000 or $30,000 out of the country. I think that is not right. Even in the United States of America these days one cannot carry more than $10,000, otherwise one will have to explain. There should be a way for people to carry money either in drafts or get them transferred to wherever they are going to do their purchases.

But this idea of cash economy, where everything should be cash -- you carry cash, thirty thousand-dollar cash through the airport to Dubai to buy goods -- I think, is also not proper. I think the law should make it possible for people to carry travellers' cheques, to carry credit cards, and so on, to send their money out; otherwise, we will be creating avenues for people to launder money. I can go with relatives and all; each of us will be carrying thirty thousand dollars, and I think that is not proper.

So Mr. Speaker, I support the Bill; it is

a good Bill but I think provisions should be made to avoid unwanted consequences.

Mr. A. W. G. Abayateye (NDC --

Sege): Mr. Speaker, thank you for giving me the opportunity to contribute to the motion on the floor.

Indeed, Mr. Speaker, the Foreign

Exchange Bill is appropriate and the timing is right, if we can pass it into law. The existing one, as we know, has been in existence for forty-five years and with the new trends on the market all over the world, we need to change. A notable thing which I am so much happy to see in the new Bill is this -- In the existing Bill, which we are looking at now, prior approval is required for the payment of amortization of loans or depreciation of direct investment.

In the current Exchange Control Bill which is in place, we need an approval for the payment of amortization on loans and depreciation of direct investment. But in the new Bill, there is no restriction; we just need to submit the documents to the paying banks and the report is submitted to Bank of Ghana.

Again, in the current Bill which is in place, when one wants to purchase things on the capital market, there are no controls on the purchases. But the purchases of the foreign exchange -- to buy security requires the prior approval of the Bank of Ghana. The new Bill we are talking of now puts no restriction on one's way, and when we do the purchasing, we just need to submit the report to the bank and the paying bank will submit the report to the Bank of Ghana.

Again, to add more weight, as my hon. Colleague said, when businessmen are travelling they need not to take much money. But now with the liberalization of the market, we need to be ‘‘heavy” so

that we can go to Dubai to do our work. Therefore, there is the need for the amount of money needed to travel to be increased. The present amount is five thousand and the new Bill is seeking to make it ten thousand in order to give more room.

Indeed, when the new Bill is passed, a

lot of things will change. At the moment there are a whole lot of restrictions and we need approval from the Bank of Ghana if we want to transfer money into the country; if immigrants want to transfer money to the country, they first of all need the approval of the Bank of Ghana. In the new Bill, there is no restriction but the bank must just submit the report to the Bank of Ghana. And I think this will help us; it will open our market up and there will be free foreign transactions and things will be in order.

With these few words, I would want to

request my hon. Colleagues to see to it that this Bill is passed.
Mr. Speaker 10:50 a.m.
Hon. Minister for
Finance and Economic Planning, would you want to wind up now?
Mr. Baah-Wiredu 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
thank hon. Members for the contributions made. I think we have all taken note that taking three thousand dollars now to do business outside will not help. I think we have also noted the reforms in doing business in the country and also being part of the international community. I think we need to take advantage of our credit rating of B+ and then the Cedi/Euro Bond that we are all taking part in.
Mr. Speaker, this exercise we are
doing here today is really a tribute to the hard working people in the Accra Central business district. Recently we had a review of the Budget with them and they also made inputs into what we are doing today.
Mr. Baah-Wiredu 10:50 a.m.


I thank hon. Members for the suggestions that they have made and I know that when the regulations are being made, we would also try to improve upon it and be part of the global investment system.

On that note, Mr. Speaker, I move that we approve this motion.

Question put and motion agreed to.

The Foreign Exchange Bill was

accordingly read a Second time.

Suspension of Standing Order 80 (1)
Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 80 (1) which require that no motion shall be debated until at least forty-eight hours have elapsed between the date on which notice of the motion is given and the date on which the motion is moved, the motion for the adoption of the Report of the Finance Committee on the Commercial Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and some local banks for an amount of US$61,000,000.00 for various sectoral project may be moved today.
Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning (Dr. Akoto A. Osei): Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved accordingly.
Report of the Finance Committee on the Commercial Loan Agreements
between Government of Ghana and Some Local Banks
Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House adopts the Report of the Finance Committee on the Commercial Loan Agreements between the Government
of Ghana and some Local Banks for an amount of US$61,000,000.00 for various sectoral projects.
1.0 Introduction
The above Loan Agreement was laid in the House on Wednesday, 8th November, 2006 and referred to the Finance Committee for consideration and report in accordance with article 181 of the Constitution and the Standing Orders of the House.
To consider the Agreement, the Committee met with the Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, Dr. A. Akoto Osei and officials from the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning and reports as follows:
2.0 Background
Hon. Members would recall that in Table 8 of the Supplementary Budget that was presented to this House on Thursday, July 13, 2006, the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning submitted a proposal for securing funds to undertake various projects.
Of the proposed short-term loans, the Korle Lagoon Ecological Restoration Project has already been approved by the House.
The Commercial loan between the Government of Ghana and Stanbic Bank Ghana Ltd. for resourcing the Police and Prisons Services has also been approved by the honourable House.
Currently, a total amount of US$61 million has been negotiated and concluded with various local banks for the undertaking of various sectoral projects.
3.0 Terms and Conditions
The terms and conditions as applicable to the various banks are as follows:
Bank Ghana International Bank
Project Title Defence (Naval Shipyards)
Loan Amount
USD4,000,000
Interest Rate 6 months Euribor + 2.75 per cent
Arrangement Fee 0 . 7 5 per cent
Tenor O n e year, but subject to roll-over.
Bank Stanbic Bank Ghana Ltd.
Project Title U N Peacekeeping Operations
Loan Amount USD
12,000,000
Interest Rate 3 months Libor + 2.5 per cent
Arrangement Fee 0 . 7 5 per cent
Tenor O n e year, but subject to roll-over
Bank CAL Merchant Bank Limited
Project Title
Sagem-National Identification System
Loan Amount USD10,000,000
Interest Rate Average Base Rates of the three banks (Syndication) minus 4 per cent Base Rate currently 17.5 per cent.
Arrangement Fee 2.5 per cent
Commitment Fee 0.25 per cent
Tenor Not more than sixty months.
Bank Stanbic Ghana Limited
Project Title Flagstaff House - Additional Funds
Loan Amount USD5,000,000.00
Interest Rate 3 months Libor+ 2.5 per cent
Arrangement Fee 0.75 per cent
Tenor One year, but subject to roll-over.
Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori 10:50 a.m.


Bank Merchant Bank Ghana Limited

Project Title CAN 2008: Ohene Djan and Baba Yara Stadia

Loan Amount USD20,000,000.00

Interest Rate One year US prime Rate+1.25 per cent

Arrangement Fee 0.75 per cent flat

Commitment Fee 0.25 per cent per annum

Participation Fee 0.50 per cent

Tenor One year but subject to roll-over.

Bank Merchant Bank Limited

Project Title Ghana Airways Service Delivery

Loan Amount USD5,000,000.00

Interest Rate Base Rate minus 4 per cent. (Currently 17.5 per cent)

Arrangement Fee 0.75 per cent

Commitment Fee 0.25 per cent

Management Fee 0.5 per cent flat

Tenor One year but subject to roll-over.

Bank Stanbic Ghana Limited

Project Title Rehabilitation of Chanceries -- New York, etc.

Loan Amount USD5,000,000.00

Interest Rate 3 months Libor + 2.5 per cent

Arrangement Fee 0.75 per cent

Tenor One year but subject to roll-over.

4.0 Observations

The Committee observed that out of the total sixty-one million dollars, Stanbic Bank alone is providing an amount of twenty-two million dollars (USD 22,000,000.00).

The Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning informed the Committee that USD5,000,000.00 of these loans would be applied towards the rehabilitation of the Flagstaff House. He explained that this would be additional to the USD 30,000,000 already provided towards the constructional works.

The Committee also observed that the USD20,000,000 loan facility from Merchant Bank Ghana Ltd would help provide the needed funds towards the rehabilitation of the Ohene Djan and Baba Yara stadia to ensure that they are completed in time for the CAN 2008 Soccer Tournament.

As to whether the Government's action of sourcing loans from the local banks would not lead to the crowding-out of the private sector, the Deputy Finance Minister explained that the local banks involved are in excess liquidity and that the private sector's ability to raise loans from the banking sector would not be unduly affected.

Again, the Committee noted that USD5,000,000 of the funds being provided by Merchant Bank Ghana Ltd. would be used by the Government to pursue the liquidation of Ghana Airways Limited. The Committee was informed that part of the amount would be applied to the payment of severance awards to the former employees of the airline.

5.0 Conclusion
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDC - Tamale South) 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to second the motion but to raise some issues for clarification by the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning.
Mr. Speaker, I believe strongly that we are being told this sixty-one million US dollars is to support various sectoral projects that are important in keeping the activities and affairs of Government running. But Mr. Speaker, I would have wished that your Committee did a much thorough and diligent work in informing this House, on the scope of work. For instance, if you read page 2 of your Committee's Report, the terms of the loan
agreement, which is being sourced from Ghana International Bank, we are told that US$4 million is for a Naval shipyard.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to find out from the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning and possibly by extension, the hon. Minister for Defence, what the scope of work is. What work is going to be done that warrants an approval of four million US dollars for a Naval shipyard?
This House would want to know what the four million dollars is going to be used for. We need to ask for value-for- money. You just do not come and say, let us approve a loan of four million dollars when, in fact, we do not know what activities the four million dollars may fund.
Mr. Speaker, with your kind indulgence, once again, I would like to refer to your Committee's Report, in particular, paragraph 4.0 under the ‘‘Observations'', page 4. Mr. Speaker, we are being told that an additional five million dollars is to be applied for the rehabilitation of the Flagstaff House. A few months ago this House had the opportunity to approve a sixty-million US dollar facility which was divided into two tranches of thirty million dollars for electrification, and thirty million dollars for what was popularly referred to as the rehabilitation of the Presidential Palace; and reference was made to the Flagstaff House.
Mr. Speaker what has become of the thirty million US dollars, that this House is being called upon to approve an additional five million US dollars? At the time that we approved the loan, which supposedly was to come from India, we were told that the thirty million dollars was considered enough for the project. I would want to
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Mr. Speaker 11 a.m.
Hon. Chief Whip, do you have a point of order?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11 a.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with respect to my hon. Colleague, this House has not approved any loan for a presidential palace. We have not -- [Interruption.]
Mr. H. Iddrisu 11:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not need to refresh the memory of the hon. Chief Whip. He is adequately aware that we approved a thirty-million dollar facility here for the purpose of doing some rehabilitation works, which rehabilitation works comprised the completion of offices and something for the Office of the President -- [Laughter.]
Mr. Speaker, with your permission, I am still on page 4 of your Committee's Report and I want to raise a major concern. My concern is that, it appears to me that in the last few days there have been too much borrowing from the domestic sector; domestic borrowing is on the increase. If you just do an assessment, it is either sixty- one million dollars or fifteen which was approved last week or some other week. It means that domestic borrowing is on the increase and that means that we may be overcrowding the private sector.
I can see a cautious attempt by the Committee to want to say that no, this would not affect private sector borrowing
because of the liquidity of our financial institutions. But Mr. Speaker, related to that is a major issue. I want to refer you, Mr. Speaker, to the last paragraph of page 4, and I want to quote with your permission:
“Again, the Committee noted that USD5,000,000 of the funds being provided by Merchant Bank Ghana (Ltd.) would be used by the Government to fund the liquidation of Ghana Airways Limited.”
Mr. Speaker, we are aware that owing to serious management problems Ghana Airways has had to be in the pit that it is today and currently, except for what is referred to as Ghana International Airlines, we know we have a defunct Ghana Airways.
But Mr. Speaker, Ghana Airways has some property and assets. I want to know what the value of Ghana Airways assets is; and what has been the process of liquidation. This is so because one cannot go and take a loan for the purpose of liquidation. I have not heard that before; that you are taking a loan of five million dollars to pay severance awards. In any case, I am aware and I will not make further comments because this matter, I am reliably told, is in court.
The workers of Ghana Airways need an assurance from Government. They have families; they themselves have toiled and sacrificed in working for our national airline and it is only fair -- Some of them are being pushed out of their homes yet they do not have homes, they do not have severance awards, they have not been compensated for the sacrifices that they have made. And Mr. Speaker, today we are being called upon to approve a loan
for purposes of liquidation.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning must indicate to this House what is the worth, the monetary value in dollar terms, of the assets of Ghana Airways. And are they telling us that even if we dispose of the assets of Ghana Airways, it would not be enough to take care of severance awards and several related issues? I think it is important that this House is given some assurance as to how this is to be managed.
Mr. Speaker, my final point is on the National Identification System. Mr. Speaker, somewhere, when the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning had the opportunity to be in this House for the approval of the Supplementary Budget Estimates -- Mr. Speaker, I can refer you to paragraph 60 of the hon. Minister's Supplementary Budget Statement and in particular to page 20.
He made reference to an approval of ¢91.5 billion to be used to support a National Identification Programme. I am asking whether that is what we are now approving by way of a loan; or it was part of the excess revenue that came in, which warranted a Supplementary Budget because he had additional resources to be able to do this? This is so because if you convert the ¢91.5 billion it gives you ten million dollars, unless of course he is asking for an additional ten million dollars to that which he asked when he came for the ¢91.5 billion.

Mr. Speaker, we want to know from the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning -- We cannot keep approving money for many of the projects for which this House does not know the total cost involved. For instance, the National Identification System, we do not want to be called upon tomorrow to approve additional loans for that.
Mr. J. Y. Chireh 11:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member is misleading the House and he is also not going according to the orders we follow. That because I have an hon. Member from my side on a committee when a report is brought my mouth is sealed? That is not possible.
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I said I wished he had consulted them. I did not ask for his mouth to be sealed, but as for him, if he seals his mouth I would not mind. [Laughter.] Mr. Speaker, in defence of the Committee, I think they did the right thing. They asked us to go back and bring copies of both the loan agreements and all the contracts for these projects. Each Committee member got copies and all hon. Members of Parliament got copies in their boxes. I think that was a good thing the Committee did.
Mr. Speaker, first of all, my hon. Good Friend Haruna, as he rightly knows, the Supplementary Budget in July talked about all these projects, which are on- going. Unfortunately, we could not come back at the right time to assure ourselves of borrowing. Government has in the planning programme a short-term borrowing limitation up to $100 million and it is that constraint that allows us to do this borrowing. So Mr. Speaker, we are only coming back to the House to implement the decision that the House took in July, that is Table 8 of the Appendix.
Mr. Speaker, if one goes to the Supplementary Budget in the Appendix, Table 8 - Proposed Loans, there is a list of all the loans that were going together
with this Budget. Mr. Speaker, if one would recall, in that Supplementary Budget the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning listed all the sources of funding for the Supplementary Budget -- multilateral debt relief, taxes, loans, grants and all of them have been put in place except this last component of the loan.
In the meantime our staff have been going round negotiating with various banks as to which ones were able to grant Government these loans. It turns out at the end that it was these banks that were able to give us the rates that are listed in the memorandum.
Mr. Lee Ocran 11:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Deputy Minister was talking about a shipyard in Takoradi. I come from that area; I have never seen any shipyard in Takoradi. Maybe, he may enlighten us what he means by a shipyard.
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, he is right. It is Sekondi. Mr. Speaker, for example, those of us who know the Flagstaff House are aware that right next to it is a set of houses that belong to the security personnel. They had to be moved from that place, to be rehabilitated. The Zoo, for example, would have to be moved and the information we have says that as from today there would be additional amount of ¢233 million that we need to do all that.
This Parliament only agreed for us to
borrow up to 5 million of that amount. I do not have the details of how much have been paid yet but I can come back to the House and give that. What happens is that every time there is payment certificate, there is a local component and a foreign component. The foreign component is sent to the Exim Bank of India and they pay it. We pay the local component here.
Mr. Speaker, even though he is not an economist, it is true he might have noticed that domestic borrowing must be going up. Because we could not approve of these loans earlier, Government has had to borrow to make sure that the projects are going on. So we would have to go back and pay down on these Bills.
Ghana Airways owes a total amount of $200 million -- repeat, $200 million. Currently, as far as I am aware, it is only about $7 to 8 million of this that has been liquidated. There is a report that has been given by the official liquidator, copies of which would be provided to the Committee also. I think there is a copy in the mail boxes but I can come back and give more details. But I do not believe, as I have been told, that our assets will come close to it. The $200 million includes Alitalia, various suppliers in the USA -- they are several but at the appropriate time I would be willing to come back - or we can ask the official liquidator to give us a full list.
So this is only to do a down payment and some of these liabilities - PriceWaterHouse Coopers is negotiating with most of them and as they have reached an agreement they asked us to come back. In fact, in the 2007 Budget they are requesting an amount of, I believe, $30 million to pay off some of these creditors including Civil Aviation and so on and so forth.
Mr. Speaker, the National I.D. Project is way beyond $10 million that we are borrowing. This Parliament allowed us to borrow $10 million because for 2006 that
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:20 a.m.
was the amount they needed in terms of supplies to bring the supplies in. I do not have my copy here but I can come back and give the full cost of that.
What we are addressing is what this Parliament approved for us to address in 2006. But that does not say and no one can say that that is the only cost; it is not. At the minimum I have seen an amount of $30 million for the National I.D. But for 2006 I have seen an LC for $5 million and Euro 4 million, this will meet that requirement. In the 2007 Budget, part of it will be brought to this House.

Mr. Speaker, as I have said, your Committee -- and I agree with them -- asked for copies of all the loan agreements and all the contracts for all the projects. The Baba Yara and Ohene Djan Stadia proposals, if my memory serves me right, and I stand to be corrected by my hon. Colleagues -- I think the Accra one is $38 million and the Kumasi one is $36 million. The negotiations have been concluded. So on that one, we know the full cost. We are only spending this much for 2006.

Mr. Speaker, I think I have addressed most of the issues raised by my hon. Colleagues but I plead with hon. Members of this House that because the projects are ongoing and we are borrowing to make sure that these projects are completed, they would vote overwhelmingly to approve this project.

With these few remarks, Mr. Speaker, I thank you.
Mr. Abdul-Rashid Pelpuo (NDC - Wa Central) 11:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I also rise to express concern about the amount of borrowing going on and the purpose for
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Mr. Speaker 11:20 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, do you have a point of order?
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, yes. My hon. Colleague is misleading the House. Interest rates are not going up. I do not know where he lives. The economic analysis he is making is simply incorrect. Interest rates are going down. I do not want to get into the details but if he does not understand it, he should be very careful because the statement he made about interest rates going up is incorrect; they are going down. Now, if he has a different reason about the excess liquidity and he wants me to educate him on that, I would be glad to do so. But what he is saying to this House is simply incorrect; interest rates are not -- I repeat -- they are not going up.
By the way, the banks are now going around begging people to come and take loans. The Government is not crowding out the private sector. When the Bank of Ghana
removed the secondary ceiling, the banks became awash in cash. We have factored all of this in the programme.
Mr. Speaker, all I want to say is that the statement he made that interest rates are going up is simply incorrect, so he can withdraw that statement.
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Mr. Speaker 11:20 a.m.
Hon. Member for Nabdam, I am so sorry this is a point of order. You cannot have a point of order against a point of order. So, hon. Member for Wa Central, continue with your contribution.
Mr. Pelpuo 11:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think that the hon. Deputy Minister has grossly misunderstood what I was saying. What I am saying is this, that in a situation where excess liquidity, as he explained, is absorbed by the Government, how low will interest rates go so we can say that businesses can easily borrow and will be comfortable? And we are saying that what he is calling “low” is in relative terms.
But Mr. Speaker, exactly what I want to say is this, that we are not confident that we are running an economy that is going to help us develop. We are running an economy of borrowing and every time that I have been in this House, we have always borrowed and this is just an example of one of them. And I want to express a concern that this economy must not be an economy of borrowing and that we have to do something about it such that when we borrow, we put in place a system that will ensure that we do not go aborrowing again, and that if we are happy because we say that we are credible enough, and people are willing to give us money, it is a negative attitude and it is not helping this economy.
Mr. Speaker, this is the point that I want to make even though I support the motion.
Alhaj i Muntaka Mohammed Mubarak (NDC - Asawase): Mr. Speaker, I take the explanations given by the hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning. But then I believe that as a country, we have to begin looking at some of these things very critically.
For example, a few months ago, when we were talking about the thirty million dollars for the construction of presidential offices at the Flagstaff House, he would agree that there were a lot of comments made about the huge sum of money. And if today, all we are doing is that we are further taking loans and we do not seem to know what exactly is the total money involved for us to agree whether as a country we will prefer that to be our priority, I think that there is something surely wrong.
Coming intermittently for loans and then just saying that there are a lot of other things that need to be done, I do not think that is very proper. And I would plead with the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning to furnish this House for us to know so that, as a country, if we all agree to spend even six hundred million dollars to build such a facility, then we know that we have spent thirty million dollars now, and we are left with five hundred and thirty million dollars more to go; rather than keeping it to themselves and only be asking for money to finance those activities. I do not think that is very right.
Mr. Speaker, if you look at your Committee's Report, under the terms and conditions of the loan agreement, you would begin to ask yourself whether these banks are different. This is because most of them are local banks. Mr. Speaker, with your indulgence, on page two of your Committee's Report, you will see that with Ghana International Bank, we have

an arrangement fee of about 0.57 per cent and the interest rate of 2.75 per cent for a loan of four million US dollars.

On that same page, you would see that with Cal Merchant, apart from the arrangement fee of 2.5 per cent, we also have another fee, commitment fee, which is 0.25 per cent. When you add them, that alone brings them to 2.75 and those are only arrangement and commitment fees, which are even higher than the interest that banks like Stanbic and Ghana International banks are taking.
Mr. Speaker 11:20 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, do you have a point of order to raise?
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I just want to assure my good friend that on these matters, we have to look at them very carefully. One cannot mix apples and oranges. Mr. Speaker, what do I mean by that? When you see Stanbic three-month's libor plus 2.5 per cent, you cannot compare to Cal Merchant Bank's 17.5 per cent and the other fees. They are not the same.
A three-month libor is not a local currency. So if you translate all of it, you will get back to the same thing but you
cannot look at 17.5 per cent, 2.5 per cent and 0.25 per cent and I think that one is higher than the other. One is a foreign interest rate and so you have to relate the exchange rates and all that. You just do not look at the numbers and say the two are together.
So Mr. Speaker, we have looked at them closely and in terms of cost, they are about the same. Not every bank can give you the same cost with numbers, he cannot say 17.5 per cent plus 2.5 per cent; he cannot mix them.
Alhaji Mubarak 11:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I still believe that the Ministry could do better than that because when they contract loans and give us these loans in different languages, obviously, they should expect such concerns to be raised. But then, I believe, if they synchronize them, especially as there is syndicating -- they are syndicating for sixty-one million dollars. That is the gross that he mentioned and we believe that they should state them in languages that are familiar so that we can compare them rather than just put them in a way that he will be the only person who can best understand them.
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Mr. Speaker 11:30 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister,
do you have a point of order?
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I did not
Alhaji Mubarak 11:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I still
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Mr. Speaker 11:30 a.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister,
do you have another point of order?
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, with
all due respect to my hon. Colleague -- [Interruptions.] No, it is not the support, it is the principle. When he made the statement that I am keeping it to myself -- Mr. Speaker, we have made copies available to this House. Maybe, they have not been distributed, but we have done
what we are required to do; and for him to make the statement that I am keeping it to myself, I think it is not proper.
He should withdraw because we have not kept it to ourselves; we have brought it to the appropriate place. Now he is making a wild allegation that I am keeping it to myself. Mr. Speaker, he is my good friend, but I do not like that kind of allegation. So I think for the sake of our friendship he should withdraw that statement.
Alhaji Mubarak 11:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do
Mr. Speaker 11:30 a.m.
Hon. Member, you may wish to conclude.
Alhaji Mubarak 11:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want
to also tell my good friend and senior brother that this is about an issue; he is behind the wheel and it is for all of us to help him drive us safely and when some of these things are mentioned, I would only appreciate that he does not take it as though we are being personal; we are only trying to make sure that the system moves right and that is his quick hope. So please, he should also take it kindly and for the sake of our friendship, not to be mentioning the things he has mentioned.
Mr. Speaker, with these few comments, I support the principle behind the whole $61 million with the hope that some of

the concerns that we raised are going to be addressed in the subsequent estimates so that we do not have to be raising these issues again and again.
Mr. Dan Abodakpi (NDC - Keta) 11:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to support the motion on the floor and in so doing, I would however advert our minds to an issue that escaped us as a committee.
In fact, it has just been brought to my attention that Ghana Airways was a limited liability company and that it was supposed to be operating purely on commercial basis. Even though it was owned 100 per cent by the Government, the law allows it, in case of liquidation, to go under the liquidation laws so that we do not go looking for additional resources for the liquidation. If this understanding that I am getting now is correct then are we justified in making provision for $5 million for liquidation? That is an issue that I think we need to clarify.
Minority Leader (Mr. A. S. K.
Bagbin): Mr. Speaker, I will go with those who are expressing reservations about us approving these loans today. The first reason why I say so is that there is a danger in lumping a number of loans together and treating them globally as we are doing today. We are not being given sufficient opportunity to scrutinize each loan to make sure that it is not just the terms of the loans, but to make sure that the purpose the loans are being contracted for are in the best interest of the nation.
Mr. Appiah-Ofori 11:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the
Minority Leader is my very good friend, but I do not feel happy about what he is saying. Mr. Speaker, the Committee cannot put together all the information in the document placed before us as a report to the House, as each Member of this House was given a copy of it. We have to summarize and bring the salient points to support our recommendations. So I beg him in the name of God not to do anything that would thwart our efforts to access these loans to finance the projects that this country needs, for his own constituency too.
Mr. Bagbin 11:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, we are coming from different worlds. I did not say that they should give us all the information. I talked about sufficient information and I insist that the information at our disposal now is not sufficient to convince us to support the motion now to approve the loans.
Mr. Speaker, the issue of Ghana Airways has just been raised. I wonder how come that the Government is going for a loan for the purpose of liquidation of Ghana Airways. We are being told of the liabilities of Ghana Airways; we are not being told of the assets and we do not even know how they value the routes and the landing rights.
Landing rights at Heathrow Airport is a lot of money. Ghana Airways has lost it now, Ghana International Airlines is landing at Gatwick; that is a different ball game and we do know how they went about valuing all these. This House has to be briefed for us to completely understand the situation before we approve the loans to support the actions of Government. But here we are, left in darkness, complete darkness, especially as there is rumbling in that sector.
There are even cases and there
are threats of moving this country to international tribunals as a result of the liquidation of Ghana Airways and the establishment of the successor company - Ghana International Airlines. So we need to be briefed comprehensively; we need to understand what is happening in that sector before we commit the country to going for more loans, especially for the purpose of liquidation. That is why I think that we did not get enough information from the Committee on this matter.
Again, Mr. Speaker, let me touch on the issue of the Flagstaff House. We on this side of the House were not convinced that it was a priority of this country to commit as much as $30 million to the rehabilitation of Flagstaff House for the purposes of offices and residence of future Presidents. Mr. Speaker, that issue is still hanging. Now, we are being told that there is a local component which is even more than $5 million. We are only permitting the Government to take $5 million, the excess, we are not being told how much it is. We are being told again that it is for the purpose of moving other interests from the land and relocating them somewhere and therefore we have to take up this cost.

Mr. Speaker, we cannot be doing these things in a piecemeal manner. We need to know that if we have to rehabilitate the Flagstaffhouse into whatever structure, this is the total cost that we have to incur as a nation. And we need to take time to convince ourselves that it is a better way of spending our resources. We do not want to approve, let us say, five million cedis today, and the next day they are back here saying, “well 30 plus 5, it is 35, and it is not much, and so we need another ten million in order to be able to complete the job”. And issues were raised, as to even the architectural design, the contractor, the values that we

are attaching to this Presidential Palace.

Mr. Speaker, it is important that we take
Mr. Kwabena A. Okerchiri 11:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think that time and again, people create the “misimpression” that we are going to build a Presidential Palace, but it is not so. The document did not say so; it is a complex; both residential and office complex. It is mischievous, to say the least, to be peddling this untruth.
Mr. Bagbin 11:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, a palace is a residential complex for the King or the head of society. So if it is a presidential residence and it is referred to as presidential palace, I do not see anything wrong with it. It is a residential complex plus offices, which is referred to as a presidential palace. There is no mischief in this; there is no mischief. I am told that even my friend, my friends's palace in Kumasi, the kente palace - you all know the kente palace in Kumasi -- he did not borrow money to build it.
Mr. Simon Osei-Mensah 11:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think my respectable Minority Leader is seriously misleading and confusing this House. I do not think the head of my hometown could be called a President; he is a chief. Similarly, the residence for a chief is a palace but the residence for a President is not called a palace. So he should not try to deceive the whole nation.
Mr. Bagbin 11:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not know where he is coming from and I do not know many residences of presidents he has visited. Some are called palaces. The one we have today is a castle; it is
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my good
Friend and senior Colleague has spoken a lot about darkness. There is a lot of light
here, so I am not sure which darkness he is talking about. I want to assure him that it is for the same issues he is raising that when the Committee asked us to provide the information, we went back and made sure that all the details had been brought back to the Committee. I do not know but we do not control the Committees; and it is quite possible that they felt that bringing all the information here would have been too much.

Mr. Speaker, I want to assure all hon. Members of this House, including those members of the Committee on the other side, particularly hon Asaga and hon. Dan Abodakpi; they had access to all the information that was needed for us to address the issue. Mr. Speaker, we asked our staff to stay up in the night to make sure that all other Members of the House got copies of all such information. Mr. Speaker, I must say that I have noticed that our mailing system is not the best. In fact, as an example, as we were going to the committee meeting, we had to carry the information we had brought from the Mails Room to the committee members so we could distribute.

Mr. Speaker, that is not normally the job of the Ministry, but we felt it was necessary. As I speak, there are loads of information down there which may not have been distributed. But to give the impression that anybody, including the Minister, is trying to hide information is not correct. Mr. Speaker, on some of those issues, like Ghana Airways, I think it is only proper to ask the Liquidator, Mr. G. W. K. Harlley to come and brief us on that particular situation.

The Ministry is not the liquidator but I can assure you that the pieces of
Mr. Bagbin 11:50 a.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, I think my good Friend is misleading the House. He started very well but to try to give the impression that they had to be upon a certificate of urgency because the workers had to be paid and
Mr. Speaker 11:50 a.m.
Minority Leader, would you think it is advisable to take this matter on Tuesday so that we have time between now and Tuesday to have further discussions and briefings on this matter?
Mr. Bagbin 11:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I had a discussion with my Colleague and it is advisable that we take another day; but it is the Tuesday that we have not agreed upon.
Mr. Speaker 11:50 a.m.
I am suggesting that if you can have further discussions between now and Tuesday --
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 11:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, if we can agree that we defer it and then we confirm to you the date because we are now sorting matters out with the Minister. He is to read the Budget on Thursday and I need to find out how it works. And then I will also need to check his programme. Perhaps, we may end up having a recommendation for a Committee of the Whole and a Closed Sitting.
Mr. Speaker 11:50 a.m.
Whatever it is, it is in the interest of the -
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 11:50 a.m.
I think we are working on it and I assure you that our Colleagues will support the final outcome.
Mr Speaker 11:50 a.m.
Hon. Members, we would want to defer these matters until further notice, possibly to Tuesday or Wednesday. Can we now take item 24? [Pause.]
Leadership of the House, I see that there are other loans and I do not know whether we can take them.
Mr. Owusu-Adjapong 11:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think that we can take those loans that are for budgetary support because I do not think they will be contentious.
Mr Speaker 11:50 a.m.
Items 15, 16 and 17, is it your wish that we take them? Minority Leader, we can take these items.
Suspension of Standing Order 80 (1)
Chairman of the Committee (Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori) 11:50 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I beg to move that notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 80 (1) which require that no motion shall be debated until at least forty-eight hours have elapsed between the date on which notice of the motion is given and the date on which the motion is moved, the motion for the adoption of the Report of the Finance Committee on the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Kreditanstalt fur Wiederaufbau (KfW) for an amount of ten million Euro (E10,000,000.00) for the Multi Donor Budget Support of the 2006 Budget may be moved today.
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved accordingly.
Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and
Kreditanstalt fur Wiederaufbau (KfW) for the Multi
Donor Budget Support of the 2006 Budget
Chairman of Finance Committee (Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori) 11:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House adopts the Report of the Finance Committee on the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Kreditanstalt fur Wiederaufbau (KfW) for an amount of ten million Euro (E10,000,000.00) for the Multi Donor Budget Support of the 2006 Budget.
Mr. Speaker, in so doing, I would like to present the Report of the Committee for the consideration of the House.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to read only the ‘Observations' and ‘Conclusion' and request the Hansard to capture the report.
1.0 Introduction
The above loan agreement was laid in the House on Friday, 3rd November 2006 and referred to the Finance Committee for consideration and report in accordance with article 181 of the Constitution and the Standing Orders of the House.
To discuss the loan agreement, the Committee met with the Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, hon. Dr. Anthony Akoto Osei and a technical team from the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning and reports as follows:
2.0 Background
On 30th June 2003, Government of Ghana and her Development Partners signed a Framework Agreement for the Multi Donor Budget Support facility.
As part of Donors' contribution to support Government in implementing the 2006 Budget, the Government of the Federal Republic of Germany, through KfW, is extending a concessionary loan amount of ten million euros (€10,000,000).
3.0 Terms of the Loan
The terms of the loan are as follows: Loan Amount -- €10,000,000
Repayment Period -- 30 years
Grace Period -- 10 years
Maturity -- 40 years
Interest Rate -- 0.75 per cent
Commitment Fee -- 0.25 per cent
Grant Element-- 67.8 perr cent
4.0 Observations
The Committee observed that the facility is intended to assist Ghana Government to meet its budgetary requirements for the 2006 fiscal year.
The Committee noted that this credit facility was captured in the 2006 Supplementary Budget statement which has been approved by the House.
The Committee also noted that the loan facility has a grant element of 67.8 per cent with an interest rate of 0.75 per cent and a commitment fee of 0.25 per cent and therefore highly concessional.
The Deputy Minister, Dr. Akoto Osei informed the Committee that the loan would basically be used to supplement Government's efforts to meet its day to day financial obligations.
Chairman of Finance Committee (Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori) 11:50 a.m.


As part of the agreement taxes and other public charges to be borne by the Government of Ghana shall not be financed from the loan.

5.0 Conclusion

The Committee, considering the high concessionality of the loan, respectfully recommends to the House to adopt this Report and approve by resolution the loan agreement between the Republic of Ghana and Kreditanstalt Fur Wiederaufbau (KfW) for an amount of ten million euro (€10,000,000) for the Multi Donor Budget Support of the 2006 Budget in accordance with article 181 of the Constitution section and 7 of Loans Act 1970, Act 335.

Respectfully submitted.
Mr. A. W. G. Abayateye (NDC - Sege) noon
Mr. Speaker, I rise to second the motion and ask the whole House to approve this loan so that Government machinery can be at work.

Indeed, we went through the terms of the loan and we were happy that the conditions were good, the terms were favourable. I therefore wish to recommend to the House that we approve it.

Question proposed.
Mr. A. S. K Bagbin (NDC - Nadowli West) noon
Mr. Speaker, I support the loan and I think it is appropriate that we continue to express our gratitude to the
Government and people of Germany for the complementary assistance to Ghana. This is very necessary; even though we have to depend on ourselves, we also need good friends like Germany to make us move faster. It is with this I support the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
RESOLUTION noon

Minister for Finance and Economic Planning (Mr. Kwadwo Baah-Wiredu) noon
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that
WHEREAS by the provisions of article 181 of the Constitution and section 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335), the terms and conditions of any loan raised by the Government of Ghana on behalf of itself or any public institution or authority shall not come into operation unless the said terms and conditions have been laid before Parliament and approved by Parliament by a Resolution supported by the votes of a majority of all Members of Parliament;
PURSUANT TO the provisions of the said article 181 of the Constitution and section 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335) and at the request of the Government of Ghana acting through the Minister responsible for Finance, there has been laid before Parliament the terms and conditions of the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Kreditanstalt fur Wiederaufbau (KfW) for an amount of ten million euro (E10,000,000.00) for the Multi Donor Budget Support of the 2006 Budget.
THIS HONOURABLE HOUSE noon

H E R E B Y R E S O LV E S A S noon

Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori noon
Mr. Speaker, I second the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved accordingly.
Suspension of Standing Order 80 (1)
Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori noon
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that notwithstanding the provision of Standing Order 80 (1) which require that no motion shall be debated until at least forty-eight hours have elapsed between the date on which notice of the motion is given and the date on which the motion is moved, the motion for the adoption of the Report of the Finance Committee on the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Agence Francaise de Development (AFD) for an amount of (E25,000,000.00) for the Second Urban Environmental Sanitation Project (AFD UESP II) may be moved today.
Dr. A. A. Osei noon
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved accordingly.
MOTION noon

Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori noon
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House adopts the Report of the Finance Committee on the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Agence Francaise de Development (AFD) for an amount of (E25,000,000.00) for the Second Urban Environmental Sanitation Project (AFD UESP II).
Mr. Speaker, in so doing I would like to present the Finance Committee's Report.
1.0 Introduction
The above loan agreement was laid in Parliament on Friday, 3rd October 2006 and referred to the Finance Committee for consideration and report in accordance with article 181 of the Constitution and the Standing Orders of the House.
To consider the Agreement, the Committee met with the Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, Dr. A. Akoto Osei, officials from the Ministry for Finance and Economic Planning and reports as follows:
2.0 Background
Following AFD contribution to UESP I, which was successfully completed in June 2005, AFD agreed to provide parallel from to the UESP II project. The project is being co-financed by the World Bank and the Nordic Development Fund (NDF).
As co-financiers of the UESP II project, Agence Francaise de Developement (AFD) is contributing a total of E25 million towards the cost of financing
Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori noon


drainage improvement and community infrastructure upgrading in Accra and Kumasi.

The project i s targeted a t the improvement of selected drains and natural drainage channel in order to mitigate persistent flooding in areas within the two cities. Ultimately it is anticipated that such programmes would enhance living conditions in the communities selected.

Project Scope

In Accra, the AFD credit would finance the reconstruction of the Chemu Drain, approximately 4.5 km stretch to minimize flooding in the catchment areas. In addition, the Mamponse Community will be upgraded with the provision of roads and drains, schools and public toilets, water supply, security/street lighting, etc.

In Kumasi, the credit would finance the reconstruction of approximately 5.5 km of the Aboabo drain and provision of basic infrastructure facilities in four adjacent communities namely; Anloga: Asokwa, Ahinsan and Atonsu.

3.0 Financing Scenario

The overall cost of the AFD-financed project is €25,900,000.00. Government would provide €900,000 as counterpart funding as indicated in the table below:
FINANCIER noon

AMOUNT noon

Mr. A. W. G. Abayateye (NDC -- Sege) noon
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion. In so doing, I would like to call the attention of the Ministry of Local Government, Ruiral Development and Environment to the sanitation situation
Indeed, as announced, work is being
Mr. A. W. G. Abayateye (NDC -- Sege) noon


done on our environmental sanitation but day in and day out you could see that as the drains are draining off - you look at Chemu Lagoon and other places, you remove, they put it in, you remove, they put it in.

Hence, you just do not see what is happening - [Interruption] - I would like to make an appeal to the Ministry of Local Government, Rural Development and Environment about the garbage -- [Laughter.]
Mr. Speaker noon
Hon. Member, please, go ahead. We understand you.
Mr. Abayateye noon
I would like to appeal to the Ministry of Local Government Rural Development and Environment that we are sourcing funds to keep the environment clean, but day in and day out more garbage is being generated and it seems the Metropolitan, Municipal and the District Assemblies are not up to task. So that we would not always be sourcing moneys to keep our places clean, I want to plead with the Ministry of Local Government, Rural Development and Environment to ask the Metropolitan Assemblies to sit up and implement the bye-laws. The culprits must be brought to book otherwise we will continue to spend much money to keep our environment clean.
With these points, I would like to appeal to the House that since the terms of the loan are good, it is in the interest of the nation and that we must approve it.
Question proposed.
Mr. A. S. K. Bagbin (NDC -- Nadowli West) noon
Mr. Speaker, I support the motion. Just that I would ask the hon. Minister to refresh our minds as to how Government has made arrangements concerning the
counterpart funding of E900,000, whether they have made proper arrangements to secure that. Mr. Speaker, on page 2, the second paragraph, the areas concerned to be covered by the Aboabo drains, we have Anloga, Asokwa, Ahinsan and Atonsu. I do not know whether it is Ahinsan or “Ahinsnan”. The spelling is totally wrong; we need to rectify that.
Dr. A. A. Osei noon
Mr. Speaker, I wish to assure the hon. Minority Leader that for these projects we do make adequate government counterpart funds available.
They take first priority. In other words, if the Ministry of Local Government, Rural Development and Environment has nothing at all, it can be assured of that this amount would be in their investment votes for the coming year.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Mr. Speaker 12:10 p.m.
Item 20 - Resolution.
RESOLUTION 12:10 p.m.

Minister for Finance and Economic Planning (Mr. K. Baah-Wiredu) 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that
WHEREAS by the provisions of article 181 of the Constitution and section 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335), the terms and conditions of any loan raised by the Government of Ghana on behalf of itself or any public institution or authority shall not come into operation unless the said terms and conditions have been laid before Parliament and approved by Parliament by a Resolution supported by the votes of a majority of all Members of Parliament;
PURSUANT TO the provisions of the said article 181 of the Constitution and section 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335) and at the request of the Government of Ghana acting through the Minister responsible for Finance, there has been laid before Parliament the terms and conditions of the Loan Agreement between the Govern-ment of Ghana and Agence Francaise de Development (AFD) for an amount of (€25,000,000.00) for the Second Urban Environ- mental Sanitation Project (AFD
UESP II).
THIS HONOURABLE HOUSE 12:10 p.m.

H E R E B Y R E S O LV E S A S 12:10 p.m.

Mr. Appiah-Ofori 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg
to second the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved accordingly.
Suspension of Standing Order 80 (1)
Mr. Appiah-Ofori 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
beg to move, that notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 80 (1) which require that no motion shall be debated until at least forty-eight hours have elapsed between the date on which notice of the motion is given and the date on which the motion is moved, the motion for the adoption of the Report of the Finance Committee on the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Agence Francaise de Development for an amount of thirty million euro (€30,000,- 000.00) for Multi Donor Budget Support (2007-2009) may be moved today.
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved accordingly.
MOTION 12:10 p.m.

Mr. Appiah Ofori 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House adopts the Report of the Finance Committee on the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Agence Francaise de Development for an amount of thirty million euros (€30,000,000.00) for Multi Donor Budget Support (2007-2009).
Mr. Speaker, in so doing, I beg to present the report of the Finance Committee. 1.0 Introduction
The Multi Donor Budget Support loan (2007-2009) facility was laid in the House on Tuesday, 7th November 2006 and referred to the Finance Committee for consideration and report in accordance with article 181 of the Constitution and the Standing Orders of the House.
To discuss the loan agreement, the Committee met with the Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, hon. Dr Anthony Akoto Osei and a technical team from the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning and reports as follows:
2.0 Background
The Government of Ghana and her Development Partners on 30th June 2003 signed a Framework Agreement for the Multi Donor Budget Support facility.
As part of Donors' contribution to support the budget for 2006, the Government of France through AFD is extending a concessionary loan amount of thirty million euros (€30,000,000.00)
to the Government of Ghana.
3.0 Terms of the Loan
The terms of the loan are as follows:
Loan Amount
-- €30,000,000
Repayment -- 20 years
Grace Period -- 10 years
Maturity -- 30 years
Interest Rate -- 1 per cent
Commitment Fee -- 0.25 per cent
Grant Element -- 55.42 per cent.
4.0 Observations
The Committee observed that the loan would be used to supplement the 2006 supplementary budget brought before and approved by the House.
As part of the agreement, taxes and other public charges to be borne by the Government of Ghana shall not be financed from the loan.
The Deputy Minister also informed the Committee that the loan was sought to cushion Government meet its budgeted expenditure. He said that this facility was also captured in the supplementary estimates brought to the House and would be spread over a three- year period.
The Committee noted that the loan has a grant element of 55.42 per cent and an interest rate of 1 per cent and therefore is concessionary.
Mr. Appiah Ofori 12:10 p.m.


5.0 Conclusion

In considering the gains to be derived from the loan, the Committee respectfully recommends to the House to adopt this report and approve by resolution the loan agreement between the Republic of Ghana and Agence Francaise de Development for an amount of thirty million Euros (€30,000,000) for the Multi Donor Budget Support of the 2006 Budget in accordance with article 181 of the Constitution and section 7 of the Loans Act, 1970, (Act

335).

Respectfully submitted.
Mr. Abayateye 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion.
Question proposed.
Mr. J. H. Mensah (NPP - Sunyani East) 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am in support of the motion. I would like to put on the plate of the Finance Committee an issue that perhaps we will address further during the Budget debate; and it is this: In our relationships with the donor community, we have presented to them our national development plans and strategies and these two loans -- one from KFW and this one from the French Development Agency -- are in support of that strategy
and especially in support of the budgetary requirements for implementing such strategy.
Mr. Speaker, there is a substantial difference between the nation's strategy under the GPRS I and the nation's strategy under the GPRS II. Under the GPRS I we aimed at the basic millennium goals and under the GPRS II we are aiming to accelerate the rate of growth of the economy so that the nation can attain middle-income status within the foreseeable future.
Mr. Speaker, when you move an economy, it is like moving a vehicle. There is an initial inertia to be overcome and therefore we have to apply a lot more resources to get over the initial inertia than you need when the vehicle is already in motion, to keep it in motion. Therefore, these first two years or so of our new strategy are crucial. We must be sure that we are mobilizing enough resources not only to fulfil the requirements of GPRS I but to fulfil also the requirements of
GPRS II.
Besides, Mr. Speaker, we have had last year, a meeting of the G-8 at Gleneagles in Scotland where the major donor countries all promised to increase by very significant proportions, the volume of their assistance to countries like Ghana.
Mr. Speaker, a first look at the trends in
these donor aid flows suggests that most of
just said.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, we all support a mass infusion of more capital into our economy in order to move us faster than we are doing. But at the same time, it is important for us also to position ourselves in such a way that we can utilize that money that will come into our hands. He is aware that even our capacity to make use of what is already available to us is that low.
Therefore, even though the loans that we are contracting are not much, we are not in the position to even access it faster than is required; and we are being given a percentage of between 38 and 40 per cent utilization capacity.
So even though we approve most of these loans here, it is not the case that all of them are actually utilized by Government. We will also have to urge Government to try to expedite the public sector reforms and capacity-building of the institutions of governance so that we stand in better stead to utilize not only these amounts that we have been approving but more; so that we can go even to the private sector to contract loans for the development of the nation.
It is with these comments, Mr. Speaker, that I support the motion.
Mr. Baah-Wiredu 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I just want to assure the House that all the loan facilities that we are taking are within the budgeted provisions.
Mr. Speaker, secondly, we have taken it upon ourselves to monitor all loans, both bilateral and multilateral, especially with regard to the Ministry of Transportation and the other Ministries where they have those facilities. Over the past two weeks, we have seen that there has been considerable improvement in what they are
supposed to use. At the appropriate time we shall brief the House on these things so that we all know that Ghana has got the capacity to utilize the loans and the other grants that we are getting. I believe that our technocrats are listening to the discussions taking place here.
Mr. Speaker, I like the contributions of all hon. Members and hope that when we get this particular loan to support our Budget, we would be making progress with regard to the development of this nation.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved:
That this honourable House adopts the Report of the Finance Committee on the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Agence Francaise de Development for an amount of thirty million Euros (E30,000,000.00) for Multi Donor Budget Support (2007 - 2009)
RESOLUTION 12:20 p.m.

Minister for Finance and Economic Planning (Mr. Kwadwo Baah-Wiredu) 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that
WHEREAS by the provisions of article 181 of the Constitution and section 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335), the terms and conditions of any loan raised by the Government of Ghana on behalf of itself or any public institution or authority shall not come into operation unless the said terms and conditions have been laid before Parliament and approved by Parliament by a Resolution supported by the votes of a majority
Minister for Finance and Economic Planning (Mr. Kwadwo Baah-Wiredu) 12:20 p.m.


the donors are operating at GPRS I level. They have not yet caught up with the requirements of GPRS II, except, perhaps, for France where I have noticed some acceleration in the rate of support.

This matter, we will have to address more exhaustively in connection with our Budget debate but I am putting it on notice to the Finance Committee that they must prepare themselves to address this issue so that we in the House support the Government in raising the amount of resources that will be required to attain the objectives of GPRS II, and not be stuck with the financing patterns and levels and assumptions of GPRS I.

With those comments, I support the motion.
Minority Leader (Mr. A. S. K. Bagbin) 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I stand to support the motion but just to make a comment with regard to what the hon. Member, hon. J. H. Mensah, has

of all Members of Parliament;

PURSUANT TO the provisions of the said article 181 of the Constitution and section 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335) and at the request of the Government of Ghana acting through the Minister responsible for Finance, there has been laid before Parliament the terms and conditions of the Loan Agreement between the Government of Ghana and Agence Francaise de Development for an amount of thirty million euros (E30,000,000.00) for Multi Donor Budget Support

(20072009).
THIS HONOURABLE HOUSE 12:20 p.m.

H E R E B Y R E S O LV E S A S 12:20 p.m.

Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
Resolved accordingly.
Majority Leader (Mr. Felix Owusu- Adjapong) 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the morning we drew your attention to the fact that certain Questions were dropped just because we did not want to exceed the time that our Muslim brothers would want to go
to the Mosque. With that they have given us the required support for us to complete what is required for the day. We would therefore want to thank you for helping us to take more exercises and if you will also agree with us, we shall move a motion to adjourn the House till Tuesday at 10.00 o'clock in the morning. I beg to move.
Mr. Speaker 12:20 p.m.
I hope there is not going to be any dissenting voice?
Minority Leader (Mr. A. S. K. Bagbin) 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, we have had sufficient consultation and dialogue on this matter and I totally agree with him. I second the motion.
Question put and motion agreed to.
ADJOURNMENT 12:20 p.m.