Debates of 12 Jun 2009

MADAM SPEAKER
PRAYERS 10:35 a.m.

VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS AND THE OFFICIAL REPORT 10:35 a.m.

Madam Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Hon Members, we commence with the Correction of Votes and Proceedings of Thursday, 11th June, 2009. Page 1 -- [Pause.]
Mr. R. A. Adiyia 10:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker,
I was absent yesterday but I have been marked present.
Madam Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Thank you. Page
Prof. (Emeritus) S. K. Amoako 10:35 a.m.
I would like to thank the office for capturing my title and putting “Emeritus” there. [Laughter.] But I was absent yesterday and I have been marked present. [Interruptions.]
Mr. A. K. Agbesi 10:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker,
Madam Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Thank you. Pages
Mr. Kwame Anyimadu-Antwi 10:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, on page 15, paragraph
Mr. Justice Joe Appiah 10:45 a.m.
Madam
Speaker, my name has wrongly been spelt today too. The arrangement, instead of “Justice Joe Appiah”, they have written “Joe Justice Appiah”.
Mr. Raphael Kofi Ahaligah 10:45 a.m.
Madam
Speaker, on page 15, number 3, “In Attendance” (viii). My name has been written as “Edward Ahialgah” instead of “Raphael Kofi Ahaligah”.
Madam Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Page 16 -- [Inter-
Ms. Beatrice Bernice Boateng 10:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I have looked round and have noticed the Chairman for the Committee on Gender and Children is not here. We met yesterday after adjournment and deliberated on some issues but it has not been captured here.
Madam Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon Members, the
Votes and Proceedings of Thursday, 11th June, 2009 as corrected be adopted as the true record of proceedings.
We move to the Official Report of Thursday, 11th June, 2009.
Mr. Kwame Anyimadu-Antwi 10:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, at column 489, the statement that is attributed to me, at the first paragraph, the last line, what I had said, where they have the dash sign indicates, I am sure, that something was missing. But what is missing there is “one wonders if this is part of child labour”.
Again, at the last paragraph that was attributed to me, the fifth line, it is “subjected to” and not “subjected of”.
The preposition “to” should replace the
preposition “of”.
Mr. Aboagye Emmanuel Didieye 10:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, column 490, paragraph 2, Dr. Owusu Afriyie Akoto (NPP - Kwadaso), I think the contribution was made by Hon (Rev.) (Dr.) Joses Asare- Akoto, Member of Parliament (MP) for Asuogyaman but not Dr. Owusu Afriyie Akoto.
Dr. Owusu Afriyie Akoto 10:45 a.m.
Madam
Speaker, I think my Hon Colleague is correct. I did not make any contribution yesterday.
Ms. Beatrice Bernice Boateng 10:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I refer to column 419, the last paragraph, where my name appeared. We have two constituencies making the New Juaben Municipality. Mine is New Juaben South and I would wish that it is added.
M a d a m S p e a k e r : A n y m o r e
corrections?
Hon Members, the Official Report of Thursday, 11th June, 2009 as corrected represents the true record of proceedings.
Hon Members, Business Statement - item 3; Chairman of the Business
Committee?
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE 10:55 a.m.

Majority Leader/Chairman of the Business Committee (Mr. A. S. K. Bagbin) 10:55 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I stand to present the Business Statement for the Fourth Week ending Friday, 19th June,
2009.
Introduction
Madam Speaker, the Committee met yesterday, Thursday, 11th June, 2009 and arranged Business of the House for the Fourth Week ending Friday, 19th June, 2009 as follows:
Arrangement of Business
Question(s)
Madam Speaker, the Committee has programmed the following Ministers to answer Questions during the week:
No. of Question(s)
i. Minister for Local Government and Rural Development 3
ii. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning 2
iii. Ministry for Roads and Highways 5
iv. Minister for Youth and Sports 1
Total Number of Questions 11
Urgent Question(s)
Madam Speaker, the Committee has also programmed one Urgent Question to be answered during the week. Madam Speaker, the Urgent Question stands in the name of the Hon Member for Atwima
Mponua, Mr. Isaac Kwame Asiamah -- [Pause.] I have left one out - [Uproar.] That Urgent Question will be answered next week.

Statements

Madam Speaker may allow Statements duly admitted to be made in the House.

Papers and Reports

Madam Speaker, Papers and Reports may be presented to the House for consideration.

Motions and Resolutions

Madam Speaker, Motions may be debated and their consequential Resolutions, if any, taken during the week.

Conclusion

Madam Speaker, in accordance with Standing Order 160 (2) and subject to Standing Order 53, the Committee submits to this Honourable House, the order in which the Business of the House shall be taken during the week.

Urgent Question --
Mr. Isaac Kwame Asiamah (Atwima Mponua) 10:55 a.m.
To ask the Minister for Youth and Sports what is the level of preparations for the pending Africa Hockey Championship in July 2009.
Statements
Laying of Papers -
(a) Report of the Public Accounts Committee on the Performance Audit Report of the Auditor- General on Business Registra- tion in Ghana.
(b) Report of the Public Accounts Committee on the Report of the Auditor-General on the Public Accounts of Ghana (Public
Boards, Corporations and other Statutory Institutions) for the period ended 31st December
2004.
(c) Report of the Public Accounts Committee on the Performance Audit Report of the Auditor- General on the Accountability Arrangements in Solid Waste Management.
(d) Report of the Public Accounts Committee on the Performance Audit Report of the Auditor- General on the Management of Human Resources for the Effective Primary Health Care Delivery by the Ghana Health Service.
(e) Report of the Public Accounts Committee on the Performance Audit Report of the Auditor- General on the Public Servants Housing Loan Scheme.
Motions
Committee Sittings.

Questions --

Minister for Local Government and Rural Development - 6, 7 and 8

Minis ter for Finance and Economic Planning - 21 and 22

Statements Laying of Papers -

(a) Report of the Finance Committee on the following:

(i) Supplementary Loan Agree- ment between the Govern- ment of Ghana and the African Development Fund (ADF) for an amount of twenty-five million, four hundred thousand Units of Account (UA25,400,000) [equivalent to US$38.10 million] for the implemen- tation of the Tema-Aflao Road Rehabilitation Project (Lot 2: Agbozume-Aflao Section, and Akatsi bypass).

(ii) Supplementary Loan Agree- ment between the Govern- ment of Ghana and the African Development Fund (ADF) for an amount of thirteen million, four hundred thousand Units of Account (UA13,400,000) [equivalent to US$20.10 million] for the implementation of the Akatsi-Dzodze-Noepe Road Upgrading Project (Lot 2: Dzodze-Akanu Section and Overlay).

(iii) Supplementary Loan Agree-ment between the Govern-ment of Ghana and the African Development Fund (ADF) for an amount of four million, three hundred thousand Units of Account (UA4,300,000) [equivalent to US$6.45 million] for the implementation of the U E M O A - G h a n a R o a d Pro-gramme 1, Techiman- Kintampo Road Rehabi- litation Project (Lot 2: Apaaso-Kintampo).

(iv) Annual Report of the Internal Audit Agency for the year 2006.

(b) Report of the Committee on

Lands and Forestry on the following:

(i) Annual Report of the Office of the Administrator of Stool Lands for the year ended 31st December, 2005.

(ii) Annual Report of the Office of the Administrator of Stool Lands for the year ended 31st December 2006.

( i i i ) A n n u a l R e p o r t o f the Forestry Commission for the year 2006.

Motions

Committee Sittings.

Statements

Laying of Papers -

Report of the Auditor-General on the Audit of the Accounts of Ghana@50 Secretariat for the period ended May 2006 December 2008.

Motions --

(a) Adoption of the Report of the C o m m i t t e e o n S u b s i d i a r y Legislation on the Public Office Holders (Declaration of Assets and Disqualification) Regula-tions,

2009 (L.I. 1957).

(b) Adoption of the Report of the Committee on Environment, Science and Technology on the Annual Report of Ghana Environmental Protection Agency

2003.
Mr. Isaac Kwame Asiamah (Atwima Mponua) 10:55 a.m.
(c) Adoption of the Report of the Committee on Trade, Industry and Tourism on the Annual Report of the Export Development and Investment Fund 2005.
(d) Adoption of the Report of the Committee on Constitutional, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs on the Annual Report on Presidential Office Staff for the period January to December 2008.
(e) Adoption of the Report of the Public Accounts Committee on the Performance Audit Report of the Auditor-General on Management of Ghana Police Residential Accommodation.
Committee Sittings.

Questions -

Minister for Roads and Highways - 19, 20, 25, 26 and 27

Statements

Laying of Papers

Motions -

(a) Adoption of the Report of the Finance Committee on the Supplementary Loan Agree- ment between the Government of Ghana and the African Development Fund (ADF) for an amount of twenty-five million, four hundred thousand Units of Account (UA25,400,000) [equivalent to US$38.10

million] for the implementation of the Tema- Aflao Road Rehabilitation Project (Lot 2: Agbozume- Aflao Section, and Akatsi bypass).

(b) Adoption of the Report of the Finance Committee on the Supplementary Loan Agree- ment between the Government of Ghana and the African Development Fund (ADF) for an amount of thirteen million, four hundred thousand Units of Account (UA13,400,000) [equivalent to US$20.10 million] for the implementation of the Akatsi-Dzodze-Noepe Road Upgrading Project (Lot 2: Dzodze-Akanu Section and Overlay).

(c) Adoption of the Report of the Finance Committee on the Supplementary Loan Agree- ment between the Government of Ghana and the African Development Fund (ADF) for an amount of four million, three hundred thousand Units of Account (UA4,300,000) [equi- valent to US$6.45 million] for the implementation of the UEMOA- Ghana Road Programme 1, Techiman-Kintampo Road Rehabilitation Project (Lot 2: Apaaso-Kintampo).

Committee Sittings.
Madam Speaker 10:55 a.m.
Thank you --
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Madam Speaker 10:55 a.m.
Yes, Hon Member?
Mr. Hackman Owusu-Agyemang 11:05 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I thank you. If there are no detailed questions on it, then I am very happy the distinguished Leader of the House is here because I want to make a proposal which has been exercising my mind all the 12 years that I have been here.
Madam Speaker, looking at the Standing Orders, the Business Statement indicates and captures the work we are supposed to be doing as a Parliament within the week, ably put by the Leader. Madam Speaker, but when we go into committees, we are also working for Parliament and that sort of channels my mind to the fact that we should also capture things that we do outside of Ghana and outside of this House. Because many a time, delegations do go out from Parliament and we are not made aware of them.
So one meets another Hon Colleague, “Oh, there was a delegation from Ghana that visited our Parliament” and one has not the vaguest idea that it happened. And it makes one looks as if one is not part of this Parliament.
Furthermore, Madam Speaker, I believe that if we are aware that certain delegations are going out, the input of some of the Hon Members can be channelled through them. For example, Madam Speaker, if Hon Members are going to the ECOWAS Parliament and we know we have difficulties, especially those on the route or on the border have issues that they want to pass through our representatives to the ECOWAS Parliament but we do not know when they go and we do not know when they come. So, we will not be able to do that. But these five or six people are our representatives. The same would happen to the AU Parliament.
So I believe the time has now come, subject to the approval of this House, that the Hon Majority Leader and his team would capture the issues of relevance as well as the activities of Members of Parliament of this House outside of this country. For example, Madam Speaker, you have not done it yet but in the past, one would just come and find that the Speaker was not around. One reads in the papers that the Speaker is in Turkey or is in Cuba or is in Russia, and as Hon Members of this House, we do not even know the movements of our own Speaker or our own Leader.
When the President is going out, he writes to the Speaker and the whole nation where he is going and what he is going to do. And I believe the time has now come for us to adopt that process and be transparent in all these movements and trips. But most importantly, Madam Speaker, so we can contribute and if we have any concerns, channel them through these committees when they go. Sometimes one does not see an Hon Friend for about a week. And he comes and says he was in country “a”, “b”, or “c”.

Again, I think that publishing it by the Leader of the House will also enhance the transparency of the selection process. I saw this when I was a member of the Appointments Committee; for example, there was one particular person who in four years had done 35 trips. But I also know of somebody, at least, from my side, who said all the 12 years in this House, he did not do one trip to - or go on one delegation and I do not think he was such a bad Member of Parliament (MP) that he did not do it. But when it is transparent then we all know how it is done.

Madam Speaker, I have visited, in my earlier incarnation, the fact that most legislatures do publish all these things, at
Mr. Hackman Owusu-Agyemang 11:05 a.m.


least, in their bulletins --

So I am asking whether it is possible for the Business Committee to let us know what the full programme, its entirety is. If it makes sense, we can adopt it. On the other hand, if Hon Members believe that we should not do that, we should not know all these things, then Madam Speaker, we could continue with the status quo. But I would like to urge that it would be very useful for us to make inputs into delegations when they are going.

In fact, politically, Madam Speaker, it is also very good for us because I remember very well, during the time of President Rawlings, when he was travelling to the United Nations, he decided that he would go with one Hon Member from our side, the Opposition side and Madam Speaker, it was so good to see two MPs - one from the opposition, one from the Government - each of them, giving a speech. And I think the nation needed to know that it was not a one-sided event, but it was both sides of the House and that is why I am asking for this.

So I crave your indulgence to put the issue to the Leader to see whether he can let us know how he can incorporate this.
Mr. Joseph Y. Chireh 11:05 a.m.
Madam
Speaker, I first rose on a point of order but I did not catch your eye. But now he has made a full statement, so I am also getting up to contribute to this statement. [Laughter.] And I think that, first of all, he should have waited until we finished with the questions then he could make the statement. But he has disorganized the order of the day.
I want to agree to some of the things he has said. But some were really not part of the Business Statement; at all. I believe that what we do outside should
Mr. Owusu-Agyemang 11:05 a.m.
Madam
Speaker, I think that he did not - [Inter- ruptions.] Madam Speaker, I did preface my contribution by saying that if there are no detailed questions regarding the Business Statement then I would crave your indulgence to make a comment on a general issue. I do not think that the cadre Minister was listening; he was not listening. That is why he did not - But I said if there were no questions on this -- So next time I think he must listen, Madam Speaker.
Mr. Bagbin 11:05 a.m.
Madam Speaker, the
Business Committee is bound in its work by the Standing Orders of the House; and the Standing Orders are very clear as to what we can do and what we cannot do. Now, if you look at Standing Order 53(1), it says:
“The business for each Sitting day, as decided by the Business Committee shall be set out in the Order Paper, and shall whenever possible be transacted in the following order . . .”
Madam Speaker 11:05 a.m.
Yes, handle --
Mr. Bagbin 11:05 a.m.
The business for
the Sitting of the House which will define the Sitting day. Now, there are some businesses he mentioned that are completely outside that of Parliament. There are some businesses that we bring in at some appropriate time. If we are talking about reports of delegations when committees attend relevant conferences, we request that they submit reports and they do so from time to time and those reports are laid in the House and debated by the House.
The delegations to ECOWAS and Pan-African Parliament, I believe, have laid reports on a number of times here and those reports have been discussed by the House. So at the appropriate time we always manage to bring in such businesses.
But as to delegations, whether we should be telling the House who is going and when they are going and what they are going to do, I believe it is not yet captured by our Standing Orders. If we think that it is important to do so, we will have an opportunity to revise our Standing Orders and we can together put that in and then the Business Committee will be bound to put that in the business report.
The rest, I think the Hon Member for
New Juaben North, Mr. Hackman Owusu- Agyemang was just trying to tickle the minds of people to think about it. But that definitely will not form part of the Business Statement of the House.
Mr. Owusu-Agyemang 11:05 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I was really coming by Order 56(1) and not 53; I mentioned that. I said, by the weekly statement, that is Order 56(1), not Order 53. And so if he gives the Statement for the whole week and this week Madam Speaker is leading a delegation to say, Turkey, what is wrong for us to know if we must know the presence -
The point that I am making is that the input is before, not after. They are going to debate in the ECOWAS Parliament and I have had the privilege of passing by when I was in another situation; I was not a member. So the issue that is being discussed, we could have made an input into it before they went; not when they have come to give us the report. So I am talking pre- not post- and I am coming by Order 56(1), not 53(1); that is for the whole week; that is what I am doing.
Mr. Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:15 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I believe the issue raised by the Hon Member from New Juaben North is an important matter except that in the ECOWAS Parliament, the agenda proposed for the Sitting is not advertised before the Members attend the meeting. Indeed, what normally happens is that when they get there, to Abuja, the first day of Sitting is when Members are given the agenda for the Sitting. And so it is impossible for this House to be seized of the agenda to make an input into the presentations from our Colleagues.
In any event, the ECOWAS Parliament, like the Pan-African Parliament, the protocol is very clear that when Members attend they shall not be influenced. Their independence shall not be influenced by even the country that they are supposed to be representing. That is the position. And so I guess, perhaps, we may have to look at the protocols (1) and (2) again, the way of having the agenda -- Once you have tackled the protocol then the way of having the agenda advertised before the Sitting will enable us to make some contributions before they go to represent us.
Mr. Owusu-Agyemang 11:15 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I was rising on a point of order with my distinguished Leader. I believe that I am very conversant with what is in the ECOWAS Protocol. He says because we have not got to the stage where there will be universal adult suffrage for electing members to the Parliament, representa-tives of each national assembly or Parliament would be there.
So they are representatives, they do not go there in their personal rights and capacities and if the august House has a view on a certain issue -- They may not be influenced personally, yes, but if
Mr. S. K. B. Manu 11:15 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I rise as the immediate past leader of Ghana's delegation to the ECOWAS Parliament. [Hear! Hear!] And also as the ECOWAS Parliamentary Committee Chairman on political affairs, peace and security. [Hear! Hear!] And to correct the Hon Member for New Juaben North that it is true that Members who leave from Ghana for the ECOWAS Parliament are called representatives but that name “representatives” does not limit the representation to Ghana. We are called representatives because we represent the entire population of the sub-region. As has been clearly explained by the Minority Leader, before we get to the ECOWAS Parliament and before the bureau meets, the agenda for the meeting is unknown.
It is, therefore, impossible for any member to know what is going to be discussed so as to give any pre-meeting input.
Mr. Ambrose P. Dery 11:15 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity. I think that the issues that have been raised by Hon Members as to content are very useful but I only think that they are misplaced now.
I agree with the Hon Majority Leader that we can consider changing our Standing Orders to enable us put these dimensions in there. For now, we can get a day when we will discuss the contents of whatever is being said now. But for now, I think Orders 53 and 56 are not contradictory. In fact, Order 56 thus states the manner in which what is supposed to to be done at Order 53 might be delivered at the time or later by supplementary Statement.
I would therefore support that we move ahead with what we have now and that if we think the content needs to be discussed, we can do that later.
Madam Speaker 11:15 a.m.
I think Hon Hackman has made a suggestion, and like the Leader said, it is to tickle the thinking of the House so it can be considered; the two Leaders should put their heads together and decide whether to include the delegation going on those important ECOWAS and African Union Parliaments. But I dare say that Hon Hackman may already know the delegation for the ECOWAS Parliament which is set and the others.
In respect of private visits by say, the Speaker going to Turkey, if it ever happens, the discretion is with her, helped by the two Leaders. Because the
delegation always comprises members from either side and the Leaders decide on that. But then it is a good suggestion which I would ask the two Leaders to put their heads together and -- [Interrup- tions.] Because anything that is good for the House is worth discussing.
Mr. Owusu-Agyemang 11:25 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I am very grateful. I do not want to drag the issue or contradict you. But I just want to say that with the best of intentions I made this proposal. But my distinguished Hon Colleague, the immediate past Leader, I think got my sentiments wrong -- I said if I was not listening -- Madam Speaker, I was listening.
All that I am saying is that, if there is a problem of say, interconnectivity between Ghana and Nigeria and the rest and we know they are going, the Hon Minister for Communications or if it is electricity warps, they can give this to them to go and canvass for them so that we could all harmonize our old systems so that we can do that. Because of lack of inter-con- nectivity, that is why we could not even take power from Nigeria when we were in the crisis because the two were not gelling together.
The railway lines are of different sizes and whatever. All these we should be working through the offices of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), African Union (AU) and New Partnership for African Development (NEPAD), and all that. That is all that I am saying.
So he cannot say that because we do not have the agenda before time, we cannot

also put on the table issues that would move this sub-region and Africa forward. I completely disagree with him. I do not think that I was not listening, maybe, he got his brief wrong.
Madam Speaker 11:25 a.m.
Thank you, Hon Members. I think the Business Statement as presented is adopted.
We now move on to Urgent Questions.
Dr. M. O. Prempeh 11:25 a.m.
Thank you, Madam Speaker --
Madam Speaker 11:25 a.m.
Hon Member, it is Question time and there is an Urgent Question which stands in the name of the Hon Member for Kwabre East (Mr. Kofi Frimpong). Please, ask your Urgent Question.
Dr. Prempeh 11:25 a.m.
Madam Speaker, the Hon Member for Kwabre East (Mr. Kofi Frimpong) is on an official delegation and has asked me to speak on his behalf.
URGENT QUESTIONS 11:25 a.m.

MINISTRY OF ENERGY 11:25 a.m.

Minister for Energy (Dr. Oteng Adjei) 11:25 a.m.
Madam Speaker, the current pricing regime being implemented by the National Petroleum Authority (NPA) has three parts, namely: the ex-refinery, the physical, that is, the taxes and the levies and the margins to the third parties. The price of any particular petroleum product, is the sum of these three components.
Madam Speaker, the ex-refinery component is a function of the world
Dr. Prempeh 11:25 a.m.
Madam Speaker, my next question is that, I want the Hon Minister to tell the House, if he is aware, of direct Bank of Ghana payments to TOR as regards under-recovery and if he is aware how much has been paid and when was that paid.
Dr. Oteng Adjei 11:25 a.m.
Madam Speaker, can I get the question clear?
Dr. Prempeh 11:25 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I want the Hon Minister to tell the House - is he aware that Bank of Ghana makes direct payments to TOR as per the under recovery and if he is aware, how much has been paid by Bank of Ghana to TOR and when was it paid?
Dr. Adjei 11:25 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I know that in the case of the under- recovery, the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning is handling that. It is the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning that issues those payments. The process by which they do it, whether they do it through Bank of Ghana or any other
medium, I am not aware of that.
Dr. Prempeh 11:25 a.m.
Madam Speaker, interesting times indeed, very interesting times. If the Hon Minister is not aware of payments made on behalf of Ghana Government and his Ministry to TOR -- would the Hon Minister tell us how much Government of Ghana has paid to TOR as part of TOR's debt, total?
Dr. Adjei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I think that in the last but one paragraph, I stated that the Government had made a total of $108 million; $60 million of that covers Tema Oil Refinery (TOR); that I am aware.
Mr. Albert Kan-Dapaah 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, can I ask from the Hon Minister, what has the under-recovery for Volta River Authority (VRA) got to do with the TOR debt and with the National Petroleum Authority (NPA)? Is that why different figures are coming out from the Government in respect of the TOR debt? I want him to explain what the under- recovery at VRA has got to do with the TOR debt?
Dr. Adjei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I think the concept with which I approached this Urgent Question was, I tried to explain what under-recovery is, and once I did that, I also explained the entities that are involved in the downstream market and who have been affected by the issue of under-recovery. Thereafter, I isolated the TOR and provided the information to ensure that it is a complete review. So that is the reason why we have some of these things now.
Mr. I. A. B. Fuseini 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, let me thank the Hon Minister for Energy for comprehensively dealing with the Question. [Uproar] -- I can see from the Hon Minister's Answer that

as at 31st December, 2008, a whopping amount of $347 million had accrued to the State by way of under-recovery, and out of this amount, $106 million dollars had been paid.

Madam Speaker, the Hon Minister has told us that since 12th January, 2009 -- [Interruption] -- TOR had been shut down -- [Interruption.]
Madam Speaker 11:35 a.m.
Hon Member, is the question coming?
Mr. Fuseini 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, the
Hon Minister has told us that since 2009 TOR has been shut down for turnaround maintenance. Could the Hon Minister tell us when this turnaround maintenance will be completed for TOR to begin work?
Dr. Adjei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, the turnaround maintenance has basically been completed. The process is that normally, when you complete, you pass through a limited amount of the crude, then you begin to test output to ensure that the standards that you are getting is precisely what the market requires. That is the process that they are doing now. I know that there is crude on sea waiting to make sure that the moment that process is completed, they will begin to produce.
Thank you.
Mr. J. K. Adda 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker,
Dr. Adjei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I stated two principles. One is that under-recovery occurs when government by policy intervenes in the decision process of NPA. The second is that, the process takes place bi-weekly.
We have just finished the first one. We are yet to get to the other side. It is only when we get to that time, and NPA decides that there is the need for us to either increase or decrease, then we will make the appropriate decision. As at now, NPA has not made that decision and so I cannot comment as to the action of the Minister.
Dr. A. A. Osei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, in answering the Urgent Question, the Hon Minister has given us a new definition of under-recovery. And I raise this matter before I ask my question because the law, particularly for Bulk Oil Storage and Transport (BOST), prohibits BOST from engaging in this oil trading. Conse- quently, BOST cannot be said to have under-recovery.
In giving his Answer, the Urgent Question was for those who trade in the oil business, and we know it has to be TOR and the oil marketing companies (OMC). Now, we are talking of BOST and VRA; clearly, in violation of the law --
Madam Speaker 11:35 a.m.
Ask your question?
Dr. Osei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, he said
as at December, 2008, the total amount of under-recovery was $347 million, that is what he said. Then he gave us a breakdown, and I did some little addition and I am getting 337. So I do not know whether somebody - the 10 million, he needs to explain.
But my question is the following. He said that $80 million had been paid

as a subsidy, I repeat, subsidy. Madam Speaker, can the Hon Minister tell us, if there is no under-recovery, how do they pay subsidies?
Dr. Adjei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, there are at least three major players in the downstream market: TOR, the OMCs and the bulk traders. The fact that TOR is not in the downstream market at the moment because they are doing maintenance, does not mean that the market is not creating under-recovery, because they are the OMCs and they are also the bulk traders. So the way the Urgent Question was put, if it had said that what is the under- recovery for -- [Uproar] -- Hon Member -- [Interruption.]
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Madam Speaker 11:35 a.m.
Order! Order! Hon Member, you have asked the question, he is answering. Can we have his answer?
Dr. Osei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, on a point of order.
Madam Speaker 11:35 a.m.
Yes, Order what?
Dr. Osei 11:35 a.m.
On a point of order. Madam
Madam Speaker 11:35 a.m.
But he has not
finished answering the question. Can we listen to him? Let us listen to him, maybe, at the end your question will be answered? Let us hear him. When you ask a question and you get an answer, you do not debate it, do you?
Dr. Osei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, with respect, I am not debating him. I want
him to stay on my question, that is all I am asking.
Madam Speaker 11:35 a.m.
Hon Minister,
he has asked the question. Answer the question.
Dr. Osei 11:35 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I was saying
that the under-recovery will be caused in the market because there are other players in the market and the decisions of the NPA will affect those players within that market. But as far as TOR is concerned, because they were having the maintenance programme and therefore, were not processing any crude oil, the under- recovery cannot arise out of the works that they do. But over the period there have been under-recoveries and payments had been made in the form of subsidy and that amounts to GH¢18 million.
Mr. Emmanuel Owusu-Ansah 11:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I think the Hon Minister has failed to answer a specific question that was put to him by the Hon Member of Parliament. He asked whether in the light of the rising price of the crude oil in the world market -- [Interruptions.]
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Ask a question --
then ask him. The answer he has given, if you are not satisfied then ask another question.
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 11:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker,
he has not given an answer to that question.
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Ask a question?
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 11:45 a.m.
I am repeating
the question, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker --
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Put it in a question form.
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 11:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, if the price of crude oil in the world market goes up, will the Minister for Energy tell us whether the price per gallon of fuel in the country will also go up?
Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho 11:45 a.m.
Point of order.
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Order?
Mr. Adjaho 11:45 a.m.
Order 67 (1) (e) and
Madam Speaker, with your permission I quote 11:45 a.m.
“a Question shall not solicit the expression of an opinion or the solution of an abstract legal case or a hypothetical proposition.”
It is hypothetical to that extent “if, if”, Madam Speaker, the question should be ruled out of order.
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Hon Member, you
referred to Order 67 what?
Mr. Adjaho 11:45 a.m.
Order 67 (1) (e).
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
Madam
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Are you talking
on this point.? A point of order had been raised.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
I have a
question.
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Oh, we will come
to that. I will come to that.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
I agree.
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Before I rule, Hon
Member, can you put the question again?
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 11:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker,
may I have your indulgence to rephrase my question?
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
That is, put it within the rules.
Mr. Owusu-Ansah 11:45 a.m.
My question is
simply this. Is the price of fuel in the country related to the price of crude oil on the world market? As simple as that.
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Hon Minister,
answer the question.
Dr. Adjei 11:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, yes.
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Hon Member, we
have three Questions and Question time ends in twenty minutes. So let us have two more Questions and then we move on.
rose
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Hon Member, do
you want to ask a question? You said you wanted to ask a question.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
I was
going to ask two questions but --
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Ask your question.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
I should ask the two questions?
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Yes.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
Yes,
Madam Speaker; two, I will do that. Madam Speaker, I am going to ask two questions.
The Hon Member for Nabdam (Mr. Moses A. Asaga) was saying that I am entitled to one question. Madam Speaker, I wish that he applies his mind to the Standing Orders, I am not entitled to one and he better advise him.
Madam Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Yes, but Hon
Member, do not combine two questions in one, and just ask one question at a time.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
That is
what I will do. Very well, that is what I

will do.

Madam Speaker, as I indicated, Urgent Questions, when they are asked, Answers are not given. The Hon Fuseini in asking his question said that I could see from the Minister's Answer. Clearly, he had seen the Answer of the Minister and that is something new to this House.

But my question, Madam Speaker, is, the Hon Minister has given us the quantum of under-recovery and the total, according to him is $347 million; that is the total. He then went further to give us the breakdown and said for Tema Oil Refinery, it is $106 million, for Bulk Oil Transportation and Storage (BOST), it is $61 million and Bulk Oil, another $61million; for Volta River Authority (VRA), it is $109 million.

Madam Speaker, the total of this breakdown comes to $337 million but he has informed this House that the total is $347 million. How does he explain the $10 million shortfall? How does he?
Dr. Adjei 11:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, let me concede that on my detailed analytical table, there is the under-recovery from the Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) side that I missed out in the typing. And I can say -- Yes, it is about 12.2. The LPG is a product and the Hon Member will bear with me that any time -- [Interruptions.] So normally, LPG is also part of those things and I missed that one. I will correct it.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
Madam
Speaker, the Hon Minister ends up confusing the entire country all the more. He said that the LPG component was $12.2 million. If you add $12.2 million to $337 million, it comes to $349.2 million. How does he explain this discrepancy?
Dr. Adjei 11:45 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I think
what we are doing basically here is that we are rounding up those numbers. I suppose that -- [Interruptions] -- and in consonance with our transparency
approach to governance, I am prepared to give the Hon Member the detailed calculation so that he realizes that - but coming to the House, we rounded up these numbers. I am ready to give the right numbers to the House and show that it adds up to the same number.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:45 a.m.
Madam
Speaker --
Madam Speaker 11:55 a.m.
You have asked the two questions, have you not?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:55 a.m.
Madam Speaker, the Hon Minister has indicated to us that since the beginning of the year there has not been any under-recovery. Madam Speaker, from Tema Oil Refinery (TOR), he says that since January 12, there has not been any under-recovery at all.
Madam Speaker, TOR had some stocks as at 12th January and has been importing refined products thereafter. Would he confirm or deny that since 12th the products that they had and those that they have imported, there has not been any under-recovery?
Dr. Adjei 11:55 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I know for a fact that since 12th January, 2009 TOR has not been producing -- [Interruptions] -- the NPA -- [Interruptions] -- allow us to go consistently so that -- [Laughter] - All the products that have been coming, TOR has not been importing them.
We are dependent on the bulk traders and the OMCs. I have no records of stocks, and if they have stocks they have been catered for in the previous prices. They did not bring them into the new assessment-- [Interruptions] -- [Some Hon Members: No, no.] Why no, no? [Pause.] So I know for a fact that they had not imported into the country -- So they do not -- [Interruption.]
Dr. Osei 11:55 a.m.
On a point of information.
Madam Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Hon Members, we have two more Questions and just 15 minutes, so I think it is enough. Question time is only one hour and unless you want to spend the whole one hour on one Question -- [Interruptions.]
Thank you, Hon Minister -- [Uproar] -- Order! Order!

Hon Members, we will stand this down. The next Question is from Hon Benito Owusu-Bio (Atwima-Nwabiagya). Is he here? Hon Member, can you ask your Question? Yes.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:55 a.m.
Madam Speaker, there is a Question in the name of the Hon Namoale. We want to know the status of that Question. Maybe, the Hon Member is not interested, maybe, he wants to withdraw it but we want to hear from him.
rose
Madam Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Hon Mensah, you were going to say something on the Question 9 --
Mr. E.T. Mensah 11:55 a.m.
Madam Speaker, the Hon Namoale is not here but he has asked me to withdraw this Question on his behalf. So, I hereby withdraw the Question on behalf of Hon Namoale of Dadekotopon.
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.
Madam Speaker 11:55 a.m.
The Question is withdrawn, so we move to Question number 10.
Madam Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Yes, Hon Owusu- Bio -- [Uproar.]
Mr. Owusu-Bio 11:55 a.m.
Madam Speaker, thank you very much. Madam Speaker, judging from the interest generated by the Urgent Question, I want to plead that if you would consider me stepping my Question down just for today and then we carry on with the Urgent Question -- [Hear! Hear!]
Madam Speaker 11:55 a.m.
We have only three Questions for the day. We have answered one, one is withdrawn and you want this stood down for the day.
Mr. Owusu-Bio 11:55 a.m.
Madam Speaker, I want mine stood down for the day so that we can continue with the Urgent Question since there is much interest on this side of the House -- [Hear! Hear!]
Madam Speaker 11:55 a.m.
All right.
rose
Madam Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Yes, Leader of the House?
Mr. Bagbin 11:55 a.m.
Madam Speaker, there is no such procedure in our Standing Orders - [Uproar] - and the Hon Member is completely out of order. If he wants to withdraw his Question, he is at liberty to do so. We have finished the first Question which is the Urgent Question; we have moved to the second, we are now on the third. He cannot create his own procedure and want the House to abide by it. He is completely out of order.
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:05 p.m.
Madam
Speaker, I do not see any explicit provision

in our Standing Orders which my Hon Colleague has breached. [Uproar.] Question time is ordinarily for one hour and so if we are informed that the Hon Member for Dadekotopon who was to ask the second Question has declined interest, then we have an application, subject of course to your own approval and indulgence of the House, to have this one stepped down so that we could have a full one hour for the Question. But that is certainly within your competence. I do not see any breach of any provision in our Standing Orders.

However, before you come to make a determination on that, we on this side would want to register this point that we are completely unsatisfied with the Answers provided by the Hon Minister responsible for Energy and we serve notice that we will bring him back -- [Uproar.] We are very much dissatisfied; we state our displeasure and we shall resort to other means within our competence and the confines of our Standing Orders.
Madam Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon Member, as to
the second part of your intervention, yes, you can ask another Question, the Hon Minister will come again; yes, you are entitled to it. It is a Question; it should be a new Question, not the same Question but another Question to clarify what you were not - You can do that.
Mr. Owusu-Bio 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I will take my Question now.
Madam Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Yes, Hon Member, ask your Question.
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 12:05 p.m.

MINISTRY OF WATER RESOURCES, 12:05 p.m.

WORKS AND HOUSING 12:05 p.m.

Minister for Water Resources, Works and Housing (Mr. Albert Abongo) 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, Nwabi village is located downstream of the Ghana Water Company Limited (GWCL) Owabi reservoir. The failure of the dam could destroy the nearby village.
The Government of Ghana at the time of the construction of the Owabi Dam paid in full, compensation to the people of Nwabi for land and crops.
The farm structures at Nwabi village were supposed to have been demolished in 1928 but it was not done.
Over the years, the original small community has grown, making it imperative to resettle the people of Nwabi because in the event of a dam breech, the village community will be inundated.
Discussions on the resettlement of the people of Nwabi is currently stalled because the nearest land for settlement was Daban, to which the Chief of Daban agreed to provide land on condition that the people are settled on individual basis but not as a group, which the people of Nwabi declined.

Madam Speaker, while efforts are being made to resettle the people of Nwabi village at a yet-to-be determined location, emergency preparedness plans are also being put in place to handle any emergencies. These entail collaboration among traditional authorities, National Disaster Management Organisation (NADMO) and other stakeholders to educate the inhabitants in the risk-prone areas as to how to manage disaster resulting from the dam failure.

Remedial works on Owabi Dam are also undertaken to improve its safety thereby reducing significantly the risk of inundation of Nwabi village.
Mr. Owusu-Bio 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, the Hon Minister in his Answer said that “the Government of Ghana at the time of the construction in 1928 . . .” In 1928, what Government of Ghana is he talking about? It is a question I want to know from the Hon Minister. Was there Ghana?
Mr. Abongo 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I think in 1928 there was the colonial government.
Mr. Owusu-Bio 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I want to find out from the Hon Minister whether he is sure compensation was paid to the people of Nwabi in 1928 and how much was paid.
Mr. Abongo 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, that is the information I had about the compensation issue.
Mr. Owusu-Bio 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, who were the beneficiaries? Provide the details.
Mr. Abongo 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, the people of Nwabi who were then there benefited.
Mr. Owusu-Bio 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I - [Interruption.]
Madam Speaker 12:05 p.m.
I thought you had asked three questions.
Mr. Owusu-Bio 12:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, the Hon Minister's answers to my first three questions have brought in so many facts that I need to clarify from him, so I have to ask more. [Interruption.] All right, the last one from my side; the last one, please.
Madam Speaker, in the Hon Minister's Answer, he said that there had been discussions with the Chief of Daban which had been stalled. I want to find out from him when these discussions were stalled and also if he is aware that the people currently have land, so the issue of land does not come in. But rather, it is the issue of resources to them to resettle them.
Mr. Abongo 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I am not too sure what the Hon Member is trying to solicit from me. But if I will understand him, he is expecting the Government to resettle the people. Is that the Hon Member's question?
Madam Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Hon Member, let us understand your question now.
Mr. Owusu-Bio 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, in the Hon Minister's Answer, he says --
Mr. Abongo 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, if the

issue of land has been settled then I will advise the Hon Member to tell the people to move there.
Dr. Richard Anane 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, this is just for the records. In the Hon Minister's Answer, he talks about a village which he referred to as Daban where the Chief of Daban had been involved in some resettlement discussion. Madam Speaker, as far as I do know and I do know the Atwima-Nwabiagya District very well, there is no Daban in that area. So the Hon Minister perhaps would seek to correct the name Daban. Daban is a Village in the Nhyiaeso Constituency in Kumasi. So the real name of the Village is Daabaa not Daban.
Madam Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Hon Minister, he has asked the question and he is asking whether you are willing to correct Daban instead of Daabaa.
Mr. Abongo 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I will check that, but it appears that the Hon Member of Parliament for the area is not disputing that; I am rather surprised that he is disputing it.
Dr. Anane 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I do have to because I have roots to the two constituencies -- [Uproar] -- and I do know the two areas and the village Daabaa in my constituency, not in the Atwima- Nwabiagya Constituency.
Madam Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Thank you but I think we will take the final one from the Hon Member who asked the Question. You are being told that the name is not Daban, it is Daabaa -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Owusu-Bio 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, it is not Daban, it is Daabaa.
rose
Madam Speaker 12:15 p.m.
All right, who has not spoken today? Yes you (Mr. Boahen
Mr. J. B. Aidoo 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, before asking my question, the Hon Minister gave an answer to an earlier question asked by the Hon Member for Atwima-Nwabiagya.
Madam Speaker, the Hon Minister did say that if the people have found land they should move there. Madam Speaker, we all know that in Ghana wherever we have dam construction, resettlement is carried out by the Government. At the moment, what is happening at the Bui Dam?
The resettlement is being done by Government. Akosombo -- What happened at Akosombo -- In all the places that is what is done. To say that if the people have land they should move there, Madam Speaker, is not a proper answer for an Hon Minister to give to this august House. So in the first place, I would want the Hon Minister to withdraw this answer and apologise before I ask my question.
Madam Speaker 12:15 p.m.
I am not sure whether the Hon Minister can be asked to withdraw. Maybe, I will take the answer from the Leaders of the House. I know Hon Members of this House will do; but when an Hon Minister comes, he answers a question and you take or leave it.
But Hon Bagbin, what do you think about this issue?
Mr. Bagbin 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I think in a supplementary question, the answer of the Hon Minister was to state that if the Hon Member is saying that there is no dispute, it has been settled, he should advise his people to move there.

So it is not that he is saying that the people should resettle themselves but that the people should move there - [Interruptions] -- they are two different things. Please, there is a dispute, it has been stalled, we are Hon Members of Parliament, and so if the issue has been resolved, you have a role to play by advising your people to move there. Government will do the resettlement. So it is not an issue that the Hon Member should withdraw, it is the proper answer.
rose
Madam Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Minority Leader,
on this matter?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, the Hon Minister himself has indicated that discussions on the resettlement of the people of Nwabi is currently stalled because the nearest land for settlement was at Daabaa to which the Chief of Daabaa agreed to provide lands on condition that the people are settled on individual basis but not as a group, which the people of Nwabi declined.
There are two issues, the Hon Member then informs the Hon Minister that regarding the acquisition of lands, the matter has been settled and then the Hon Minister's response was that, well, if there is no dispute over the land then we should go and advise the people to move there. But the Hon Minister knows that the issue of resettlement does not involve only the availability of land -- [Interruptions] -- some other resources need to be put together. Perhaps, that is the reason why the Hon Minister's attention is being drawn to that.
But yes, the land may be available but subsequent to that, some other resources need to be provided to enable the people to move there. I think that is the kernel of the issue raised by my Hon Colleague and the Hon Minister better address that matter.
Madam Speaker 12:15 p.m.
Yes, Hon Minister, I do not know whether you will want to -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Abongo 12:25 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I thought I tried to clarify that in trying to rephrase an earlier question that he posed, but I realised that he declined that. But if the Hon Member is assuring me that that dispute is settled, then I will ask that he comes over to my Ministry and we will see how we can take it up from that point. [Interruptions.]
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
I think we have time for just one more question.
rose
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Let us give other people the chance to ask their questions.
Mr. Ben Abdallah Banda 12:25 p.m.
Madam Speaker, in one of the Minister's answers to a question, he did indicate that the people of Owabi Village were at that time paid compensation. If it is true that the people at that time were paid compensation, then there should be a list of those who received the compensation. Can the Minister tell this august House, the exact number of those who received the compensation?
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Hon Minister, can you tell?
Mr. Abongo 12:25 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I cannot provide that information.
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
I will admit the last question.
Mr. Joseph Osei-Owusu 12:25 p.m.
Madam Speaker, is the Hon Minister aware that in the year 2000, there was litigation on this land involving the people and that all

the matters involved were before court? Is he aware that this matter was litigated in court and that the Ministry could not show that there was compensation in this matter? I was the lawyer on the case and so I know it.
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Hon Minister, are you aware that there was litigation on this?
Mr. Abongo 12:25 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I am not aware.
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
I think we have to close now. Hon Minister, thank you very much for coming.
Now, we move to Commencement of Public Business, item 7 -- Laying of Papers. Chairman of the Committee, item 7 (a)? Chairman of the Committee on Constitutional, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs?
Mr. Bagbin 12:25 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I think we move to the next item. Since the Chairman and no member is getting up to lay that Report, I assume that the Report is not ready. So we move to the next item which is 7 (b).
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Item 7 (b), Chairman of the Committee on Roads and Transport?
PAPERS 12:25 p.m.

Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Hon Members, we move to item 8, Motions. Chairman of the Committee should move the procedural motion.
Mr. Bagbin 12:25 p.m.
Madam Speaker, my information from the Chairman, who is available is that, at the Committee level,
they requested for a document which is yet to be submitted. I think that in fairness to the House, we have to wait for that document to be submitted for the Committee to satisfy itself before we allow the motion to be moved. So I would urge Madam Speaker, to let us reschedule that motion after the Committee satisfies itself that the documentation and everything else are correct. So we will have to reschedule it by the Business Committee next week.
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Hon Leader, it will affect motion number 9, and the Resolution, which is item 10.
Mr. Bagbin 12:25 p.m.
That is so, Madam Speaker.
Madam Speaker 12:25 p.m.
So we move on to item 11, Motions. Chairman of the Committee.
MOTIONS 12:25 p.m.

Chairman of the Committee (Mr. Moses Asaga) 12:25 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I beg to move, that this Honourable House adopts the Report of the Committee on Mines and Energy on the Petroleum Agreement among the Government of the Republic of Ghana, the Ghana National Petroleum Corporation (GNPC), Vanco Ghana Limited and LUKOIL Overseas Ghana Limited for the conduct of exploration and production operations in the Offshore Cape Three Points Deep Water Block.
Madam Speaker, the Committee duly met as you authorized, and in the meeting, we agreed that the reference documents such as the 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Ghana should be given to us. We also used the Standing Orders of
the House, all the Petroleum Agreements including the Petroleum Exploration and Production Law of 1984, PNDC Law, 84.
Madam Speaker, the Committee
therefore presents its Report as follows.
1.0 Introduction
The Petroleum Agreement among the Republic of Ghana, Ghana National Petroleum Corporation, Vanco Ghana Limited and LUKOIL Overseas Ghana Limited in respect of Cape Three Point Deep Water Block Offshore Ghana, was laid before the House by the Minister for Local Government and Rural Develop- ment, Hon Joseph Yieleh Chireh, on behalf of the Hon Minister for Energy, on Wednesday, 22nd April 2009, and was subsequently referred to the Committee on Mines and Energy for consideration and report in pursuance of article 103 (3) of the 1992 Constitution and Standing Order 188 (2) of the House.
Following the referral, the Committee met on Friday, 26th April 2009 with officials from the Ministry of Energy and the Ghana National Petroleum Corporation and considered the Agreement and hereby reports as follows:
2.0 Reference Documents
The Committee made reference to the following documents during the deliberations:
i.The 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Ghana.
ii. The Standing Orders of the House.
iii. The original Petroleum Agreement document between the Government o f Ghana , Ghana Nat iona l Petroleum Corporation on one hand and Vanco Ghana Limited and LUKOIL Overseas Ghana Limited

on the other hand.

iv. Petroleum (Exploration and Production) Law 1984 PNDCL 84.

3.0 Acknowledgement

The Committee is grateful to the Minister for Energy, Hon Dr. Joseph Oteng Adjei, the Deputy Minister for Energy, Hon Emmanuel Buah Armah and other officials from the Ministry of Energy and the Ghana National Petroleum Corporation for attending upon the Committee to assist in the deliberations.

4.0 Background

Vanco Ghana Limited entered into a Petroleum Exploration and Production Agreement between the Government of Ghana and the GNPC on 19th August, 2002. The Agreement covered an approximate area of 10,305 square kilometres in The Deep Water Cape Three Points Block Offshore Ghana.

At the end of the exploration period, Vanco exceeded the minimum contractual seismic obligation by acquiring, proces- sing and interpreting 3,184 sq. km. of new 2-D data and interpreting 1,055 km of existing 2-D seismic data and acquiring 1,500 sq. km. of 3-D seismic data. Vanco also exceeded the contractual minimum expenditure requirement by US$7.0 million. Vanco could however not meet its obligation of drilling an exploration well during the contract period. The Committee was informed that this was due to the scarcity of specialized deep water rigs on the world rig market at the time.

Article 4.10 of the original Petroleum Agreement gave Vanco Ghana Limited the right to negotiate a new Petroleum Agreement if at the end of the exploration period Vanco desired to carry out further

exploration work in retained areas.

In accordance with the provisions of the original Petroleum Agreement, a new Petroleum Agreement has been negotiated among the Republic of Ghana, GNPC and Vanco Ghana Limited. and LUKOIl Overseas Ghana Limited. (as joint applicants) for the Exploration and Production of petroleum in the Offshore Cape Three Points Deep Water Block covering approximately 5,146.62 square kilometres.

5.0. The Applicants

Vanco Energy Company Limited is an independent oil and gas company with a mission to explore and develop frontier oil and gas opportunities worldwide with focus on deep water. Vanco Energy Company Limited has built a Deep Water Africa exploration portfolio since 1997 and is now a leading deep water acreage holder in Africa with more than 10 million Deep water acres under licence. Vanco holds and operate under six licences in five countries including la Cote d'Ivoire, Ghana, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon and Ukraine.

LUKOIL Overseas Ghana Limited. on the other hand was incorporated under the laws of the British Virgin Islands and is currently registered in Ghana as an external company. LUKOIL is one of the world's leading vertically integrated oil and gas companies.

The main production region of LUKOIL is Western Siberia. The company is also carrying out international exploration and production projects in Kazakhstan, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and la Cote d'Ivoire, amongst others.

6.0 Interest of the Partners

The Petroleum Agreement under consideration was negotiated within the

framework of the Petroleum (Exploration and Production) Law 1984, PNDCL 84; the Model Petroleum Agreement which serves as the main guide for the Petroleum Agreement, the Petroleum Income Tax Law, 1987 (PNDCL 188); the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Act 1994 (Act, 490) and the Environmental Assessment Regulations,

LI. 1652, 1999.

In the new Petroleum Agreement, Vanco, the current operators will have 28.339 per cent ownership interest and LUKOIL will have 56.661 per cent ownersip interest and will be the operators of the project after the drilling of the first exploratory well. GNPC has 15 per cent carried interest through exploration and Development. GNPC has the option to take an additional paying interest of up to 5 per cent upon commercial discovery.

7.0 Terms of the Agreement

The Committee noted that the Agreement provides for an exploration period of five (5) years divided as follows:

i. initial Exploration period of three (3) years;

ii. first extension period of one (1) year; and

iii. second and final extension period of one (1) year.

7.1 Work Programme and Financial Commitments

The Committee was informed that, by the terms of the Agreement, the applicant is expected to fulfill the following minimum work and financial obligations within the contract period:

a) Initial Exploration Period -- Three (3) Years

i. the contractor shall acquire, process and interpret a minimum of one thousand, five hundred (1,500) square kilometres of new 3-D seismic data;

ii. the contractor shall drill a minimum of two (2) exploration wells in the contract area; and

iii. the contractor shall invest a minimum of US$100,000,000.00 for work in the initial Exploration Period.

b) First Extension Period -- One (1) Year

i.contractor shall reprocess existing data where required;

ii.drill a minimum of one (1) exploration well in the contract area; and

iii.contractor's minimum expen- diture for the first extension period is forty-five million U n i t e d S t a t e s d o l l a r s

(US$45,000,000.00).

c) Second Extension Period -- One (1) Year

i. contractor shall reprocess existing data where required;

ii. drill a minimum of one (1) Exploration Well in the Contract Area; and

iii. contractor's minimum expen- diture for the first extension
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period is forty-five million U n i t e d S t a t e s D o l l a r s

(US$45,000,000.00)

7.2 Fiscal Package

The following benefits will accrue to the State, in the event of Commercial Discovery:

b) Additional Oil Entitlements

The State shall receive Additional Oil Entitlements (AOE) upon the attainment of agreed Rates of Returns (ROR) as follows: 7.3 Training and Development

The new Agreement requires the applicants to pay to GNPC an amount of US$200,000.00 annually during the initial exploration and extension periods and US$300,000.00 during the

development and production periods. This is to help GNPC develop a programme to train Ghanaians in management and technical skills associated with petroleum operations.

7.4 State Right to Associated Gas

The Committee was also informed that, the new Agreement makes the State the sole owner of any Associated Gas produced from the contract area and gives GNPC the right to off take all Associated Gas for its own use.

7.5 Relinquishment Conditions

The Committee was further informed that, the terms of the Agreement provide that the applicant shall not retain more than 50 per cent of the Contract Area if applicant elects to enter the first extension period. Also, if applicant elects to enter into the second extension period, the applicant shall retain not more than 25 per cent of the Contract Area and on the expiration of the Second Extension

Agreement had made provision for the establishment of an escrow account into which monies to cover the estimated cost of decommissioning and abandonment of operations and facilities, site restoration and other associated operations will be paid.

8.0 Observations

a) The Committee learnt from the officials of GNPC that this new Petroleum Agreement sought to

renew the Original Agreement among the Republic of Ghana, GNPC and Vanco Ghana Limited which expired at the end of April

2009.

b) The Commit tee dur ing i t s deliberations observed that, as part of the Agreement, Vanco Ghana Ltd and LUKOIl Overseas Ghana Limited had their registered mail and contact addresses at Huston,
Chairman of the Committee (Mr. Moses Asaga) 12:25 p.m.


a) General Benefits

Table 1

1 Royalties Oil (Shallow Water) 12.5 per cent

Oil (Deep Water) 10.0 per cent

Gas 5.0 per cent

2 GNPC Carried Interest 15.0 per cent

3 GNPC Additional Interest 5.0 per cent

4 Corporate Income Tax 35 per cent

Period, the applicant shall relinquish the remainder of the Contract Area.

7.6 ESCROW Account The Committee noted that the new

c) Surface Rental

In addition, the following surface rental charges will accrue to the State during the

exploration and development phase of the contract:

Table 3

SN Exploration and Development Phase Surface Rental (US$/sq. km/year

1 Initial Exploration Period (0-3 years) US$ 30/sq. km

2 First Extension Period (3-4 years) US$ 75/sq. km

3 Second Extension Period (4-5 years) US$ 75/sq. km

4 Development and Production US$ 100/sq. km

Table 2

SN Rate Of Return Additional Oil Entitlement

1 20 per cent 7.5 per cent

2 25 per cent 12.5 per cent

3 30 per cent 20 per cent

4 35 per cent 25 per cent

5 More than 40 per cent 30 per cent
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Texas in USA and Moscow, Russia respectively. In the view of the Committee, this will put additional responsibility on the State during its dealings with the contractor.

For the purposes of facilitating service, the Committee as a condition for recommending the Agreement for approval directed that, Vanco and LUKOIL should provide their contacts, their registered addresses and telephone numbers in Ghana. The applicants provided their Ghana addresses as follows:

LUKOIL Overseas Ghana Limited,

68 Mankralo Street

East Cantonment

Accra, Ghana

and

Vanco Ghana Limited

13 Samora Machel Road

Asylum Down

Accra, Ghana

c) The Committee observed that although Vanco Ghana Ltd was unable to deliver on the terms and conditions of the original Agreement after seven years of exploratory activities within its concession in the Cape Three Points area, work programme executed by Vanco Ghana Ltd within the original Agreement was commendable. For instance, Vanco Ghana Ltd exceeded its contractual minimum expenditure requirement by spending US$20 million instead of US$13 million. Vanco also exceeded the minimum contractual

seismic obligations as outlined in the original Agreement.

It however could not meet its obligation of drilling an exploration well as spelt out in the original Agreement to which two penalties of US$1 million and US$ 10 million were paid by Vanco to the State. As further explained, Vanco's inability to drill an exploration well was due to the scarcity of deep water drilling rigs on the world rig market at the time.

d) The Committee further observed that this new Agreement is an improvement over the previous one that expired in April 2009. The new Agreement provides for the following beneficial modifications among others:

i. The coming on board of LUKOIL Overseas Ghana Ltd to partner Vanco Ghana Ltd. The former, as explained to the Committee has a proven financial and technical competence to deliver on the terms of the Agreement.

ii. A significant increase in State participating interest from 15 per cent to 20 per cent in the future oil development.

iii. The new Agreement proposes to grant GNPC and for that matter the State, sole ownership of any associated gas from the contract area.

iv. Increase work and financial o b l i g a t i o n w h e r e b y t h e operator is required to conduct a 3-D seismic data acquisition p rogramme and mass ive financial investment of about

$195 million.

e) The Committee again observed that entry into this new Petroleum Agreement would further stimulate interest in the hydrocarbon potential of the offshore area of Ghana and improve the chances of making significant discovery in Ghana's sedimentary basins.

f) The Committee further observed that, Ghana is expected to obtain approximately between 65 per cent and 71 per cent of the net oil (i.e. oil produced less exploration, development and production costs) discovered during production and all other associated natural resources. Any discovery would further lead to employment creation and the setting up of ancillary businesses by Ghanaians to service the company's operations.

9.0 Conclusion

In view of the socio-economic benefits that will arise from any commercial discovery, and improvement in the financial benefits that will accrue to the State in the new Agreement, the Committee recommends to this Hon House to adopt its Report and ratify the Agreement in accordance with article 268 of the 1992 Constitution.

Respectfully submitted.
Mr. K. A. Twumasi (NPP -- Nkoranza South) 12:35 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I rise to second the motion moved by the Chairman of the Committee and in so doing, I want to make some few comments.
Madam Speaker, ever since the middle of 2007 when Ghana had the discovery, interests have been shown in the hydro- carbon potential of this country and this Agreement goes to confirm that. It is interesting that these two companies are not unknown to the terrain of the oil industry in Ghana. Vanco has been operating in Ghana for sometime and LUKOIL which is a new entrant is operating in la Cote d'Ivoire. It is also interesting, Madam Speaker, to note that these two companies have the parent companies outside but these parent companies have committed themselves to helping the subsidiaries operate effectively in this country. In saying that, Madam Speaker, I would want to quote here:
“. . . that they will provide technical and professional services to the subsidiaries;
they will provide them with sufficient capital to enable them fund the operations in this country; and
equally important, they will not take any action that will negatively affect the operations of their subsidiaries in Ghana.”
Madam Speaker, also in the Agreement, there is a new enhancement in the terms and it is based upon what has happened through various fora that have been taking place in this country since the oil discovery in 2007.
It is also delightful to note that Ghana has taken a very bold step in taking full and absolute ownership of the gas associated with the discovery. In fact, many countries in Africa are benefitting and reaping tremendous benefits from the ownership of associated gas found in the oil industry. If Ghana does that, as according to this Agreement, we are
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very hopeful that Ghana will reap a lot of benefits from this industry.

I, therefore, hope and recommend to the general House that we unanimously support this Agreement to effect the exploration by these two companies in agreement with Ghana Government and

GNPC.

Question proposed.
Mr. P. C. Appiah 12:35 p.m.
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Asikuma/Odoben/Brakwa): Madam Speaker, article 2 of the Agreement, reads:

“GNPC shall have a 15 per cent initial interest and this initial interest shall be a pay-in interest.”

In other words, the GNPC will have to pay money, pay 15 per cent. It goes on further to say that, 2.5. “There will be additional 5 per cent pay-in interest”. It means that Ghana Government or GNPC will pay 20 per cent. But Madam Speaker, when you come to clause 10, which deals with the sharing of crude oil, GNPC would receive 12.5 per cent. We pay 20 per cent, we spend 20 per cent but when it comes to sharing -- when it comes to Ghana Government -- Ghana, including you, benefitting from this, our benefit is 12.5 per cent.

This 12.5 per cent is being further reduced to 10 per cent. I do not know why. Is it in our interest, Madam Speaker, that the Government or the nation pays 20 per cent but when it comes to sharing of the proceeds we take only 12.5 or 10 per cent?

Madam Speaker, it is my considered opinion that Parliament should critically look into this.

Madam Speaker, I want to give you a

typical example. In Nigeria where oil is produced, a substantial part of it goes into

private pockets. Therefore, it is our duty for us to open our eyes critically to ensure that we do not suffer the same fate. There are big men in Nigeria who own tankers and they take tankers into deep sea, take the crude oil and then go and export and pocket the money. What provisions have we put in this Agreement to ensure that this country does not suffer the same fate? There is nothing like this. So this country is going to give approval without considering its effects on the nation when the time comes for people to defraud the State.

I am of the opinion that we do not have to rush. It is good, but let Parliament sit down and think of what we will do to prevent fraud that would be perpetrated against the State so that at the end of day we do not boast of having oil but when it comes to the proceeds accruing to the country, and very little comes to us.

I also want us to look at the account,

section (9) of the Agreement. It is talking about accounts to be prepared and submitted to GNPC, and in particular, it says:

‘The statement that would be prepared should show the follow- ing:

‘Actual expenditures and receipts for the quarter in question.' This is right.

‘Cumulative expenditure and receipts for the budget year in question.' This is right.

Then it comes to:

“Latest forecast of cumulative expenditures at the end of the year.”

Where is this, where does it come from? “Forecast”, where does it come from? It has no place here.

Then:

“Variations between budget forecast and latest forecast.”

Madam Speaker, this is redundant here. The comparison is made between actual expenditure and budgetary expenditure and not budget forecast.

So all these have been put in and if we do not look at them critically, at the end of the day you will see that national interest will not have been protected.

So where the Agreement is, all right, I suggest that we sit down and look at it and see whether we will be able to make a provision, come out with a provision that will be placed in the Agreement that will safeguard our national interest, that will prevent fraud as obtains in Nigeria. Other than that, we are wasting our time.
Mr. Asaga 12:45 p.m.
Madam Speaker, the Hon
Colleague, Mr. P. C. Appiah-Ofori has really made a very useful intervention. But I wanted to draw his attention, because the Press is here -- regarding our share of the oil. If you look at the document, before the “Conclusion”, “(f),” it reads:
“The Committee further observed that Ghana is expected to obtain approximately between 65 and 71 per cent of the net oil . . .”
So I just want to assure him that when it comes to the net oil share of government, we have made adequate provision for it, and the safeguards.
Mr. J. K. Adda ( NPP -- Navrongo
Central): Madam Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity.
Indeed, I was a little surprised what
my senior Colleague, Hon P. C. Appiah- Ofori, just said. I think he was confusing the House and the entire nation. On one matter that involves improved terms and conditions under the Agreements, we have gone through that exercise. The terms and conditions that existed before the discovery have been improved upon from a number of angles. The Ministry of Energy had some support from the Commonwealth Secretariat that had helped us to redraft the Agreement and looked at the interest that should be accruing to this country.

Secondly, the initial interest that we get as a country and the additional opportunities of carrying interest to the additional interest that come around all turn to increase our shareholdings that come to us by way of equity. So the point he made as if Ghana Government has been short-changed, I think, is not right and he is misleading the public in that regard.

A lot of work has gone into all these negotiations and they have all been done with the sole purpose of improving whatever stakes the Ghanaian Government will have and whatever we will benefit from the drilling of the petroleum products. So, I think he is a little late. He has not been privy to those documents and reports. And I think it will do him good to examine the entire Agreement critically, compare with the old one and he will conclude, I am sure, that this Agreement is an improvement over the past one in terms of the benefits that will come in to the country.

Madam Speaker, there is one aspect of the work of the Committee that my Hon Chairman did not immediately bring out to light. Having mentioned the efforts that have gone into it, some information came out, not too long ago, about potential areas of conflict of interest in the sense that the gentleman, who has taken over GNPC,
Mr. Asaga 12:45 p.m.


was the Country Representative for Vanco.

At that time, he had nothing to do with GNPC and so there was no conflict of interest. But since he got assigned as Acting Chief Executive Officer for GNPC, I think, now effectively, he is a Board member and that made us to raise some issues as to where he belongs. A letter has been submitted that has made it very clear that he is no more an employee or the Country Representative of Vanco and that he has severed his relations and interest in that regard and he is going to take over his full functions as the Chief Executive Officer of GNPC. I think that gave us a bit of comfort and so we were persuaded.

Indeed, the letter has come, signed by one Gene Van Dyke, Chairman and President of Vanco Ghana Limited; I think there is a little omission in there in the sense that there is no date on this date. [Shows a copy of the letter.] But the letter did say that, Nana Boakye Asafu-Adjaye and Associates has been terminated by mutual consent with effect from 29 May 2009, and so, if we go by this letter, it means that he is no more representing Vanco's interest, that is, now that he is going to be Chief Executive Officer of GNPC. So, I think, in that regard, we have considered it and we think that there is no potential conflict of interest at this point.

But we would have to be on the look- out for what happens in the future based on his previous relationship with Vanco. But now, I do not think that should stop us from proceeding with supporting the motion.

Now with this, Madam Speaker, I do support the motion.
Madam Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon Members, I think I will hear from the Leaders now; the Hon Majority Leader and the Hon
Minority Leader.
Mr. Appiah-Ofori 12:45 p.m.
Madam Speaker,
he said something against me, so can I have the right to reply?
Madam Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Yes, Hon Member
for Adansi Asokwa?
Mr. K. T. Hammond (NPP -- Adansi
Asokwa): Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, it is a good thing that
this document has eventually found itself to the floor of this House.
Madam Speaker, before we left Government, we saw the need to look through this particular document. And we realised that the section which was allocated to Vanco had all the potential of yielding so much quantities of crude the way the Jubilee Fields seem to be producing now. So, we were particularly interested in that.
Madam Speaker, there is particularly one essential matter - maybe, two - that I think I should bring to the notice of this House. The whole country is now looking up to GNPC and effectively the Government, to make sure that our oil resources are properly harnessed.
Mr. Asaga 12:45 p.m.
On a point of order. Madam Speaker, I think that he must be giving the right information to Ghanaians. I worked with GNPC and we did production tests on Saltpond - [Interruptions] - I am coming. So, he cannot say a cup.
Madam Speaker, Saltpond is producing almost about six to seven hundred barrels a day which the NPP Government supervised. So how can he say that the

Madam Speaker, when he was the Hon. Deputy Minister for Energy, he supervised the production of the Saltpond oil with Lushan Company. So how can he come today and say that under GNPC we did not even produce one cup of water? He must withdraw that statement and apologise.
Mr. Hammond 12:45 p.m.
Madam Speaker, if he agrees that for close to about seven years I was there, he must appreciate that I know what I am talking about. All right, Saltpond Oil Field, Madam Speaker, I said a cup or a drop. At Saltpond Oil Field, a bottle of oil was produced during the period that they were in power. So, I give that to them. [Laughter.] We are talking about the billions of light crude, the best in the whole world in the Jubilee Fields, Madam Speaker, that is what we are talking about.
Madam Speaker 12:45 p.m.
So, Hon Member, you withdraw the “cup of oil”?
Mr. Asaga 12:45 p.m.
He has withdrawn “cup” and replaced it with a “bottle.” He was supervising 700 barrels of crude oil a day under Lushan for almost three -- Is he denying that?
Mr. Hammond 12:45 p.m.
Madam Speaker, Hon Moses Asaga must understand when we speak in this august House the context in which we choose our language.
Madam Speaker, we are talking about ranging from 200 -- at a certain point in time it was about 300 barrels a day, it went to about 500 and then to 600. Madam Speaker, posit that against billions of barrels of light crude, that is what I am talking about. That figuratively could be described as a drop, a cup or a bottle. Which one he wants? I am prepared to grant him that. We produced something from the Saltpond Oil Field but it is nowhere near to what we are talking about. That is the point I am making.
In any event, Madam Speaker, the point I am essentially making is this -- after all these years that they produced barrels of oil from Saltpond Field - [Inter-ruptions.] -- Let me give it to him - 500 or 400 of barrels from Saltpond Field, we bring in a new Managing Director, Mr. Boateng, who supervises what has now become a world first-class production.
Madam Speaker, three days ago this man was given a letter that he has been sacked -- [Uproar] - Upon all that this man did. What kind of ingratitude is that? This man sits in there - after all that - He admits that all that they produced was about 200 barrels. The man comes in there helps GNPC to produce this much oil and his gratitude, his ex-gratia, his thank you is a letter of dismissal without any acknowledgement of what he has done -- [Uproar.] Let me move on.
Mr. Asaga 12:45 p.m.
Madam Speaker, point of order.
Mr. Hammond 12:45 p.m.
Madam Speaker, there is another matter which is of some importance and Ghanaians must be told the truth. Quite recently, and indeed, I have been reading this document and
Mr. Hammond 12:45 p.m.


-- [Interruptions]-- you will see that it has been written in there that natural gas component of natural gas which is found in there has now been made the exclusive preserve of the country. Madam Speaker, if you look at the Petroleum Production Exploration Law (PNDC Law 84), section 16, you will see that it is stated pretty clearly over there that the nation reserves the right to the entire production of it, of course, besides the bit that is needed for the production of the petroleum itself or it may decide in the Agreement to let the companies have some shares in it.

Madam Speaker, in the case of Tullow and those people who have found the massive -- Kosmos and those people. Madam Speaker, there was the Agreement that they may well have an interest or a share in the gas production. Madam Speaker, at no point was a conclusion made as to how much they were to pay. Figures of about four dollars per million cubic feet or something were bandied about.

At a point in time, GNPC wrote to them and said that

“Well, we realised that some figures were bandied about, we think that this thing really needs a bit more detailed explanation, so all the efforts on table are off and let us see what we make of this.”

When the new Administration came in, Madam Speaker, they started with this negotiation that went on. But the next we heard was that the country had been informed that we of the NPP sold the country down to the tune of $800 million.

And let me tell you about some fake mathematics that was done. Some four dollars per million cubic feet on the table was multiplied by about 200 billion cubic feet that was there to arrive at $800 million.

They told the people of Ghana that they had saved the people of Ghana that much money. Nothing could be far away from the truth -- [Interruptions.] Hon Moses Asaga, I suspect, was part of the team that came out with that particular Sakawa figures. That is why he is constantly -- [Uproar.]
Madam Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon Member, wind up.
Mr. Hammond 12:55 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I am winding up. I plead with the new Administration; the people of Ghana will hold them responsible. President Kufuor's Administration did very well - [Uproar] - made sure that this natural resource of the country which had not been tapped for all these years, irrespective of the strenuous -- And I will give it to them.
GNPC at the time did very well except that they did not have direction, they did not have proper supervision. We came, gave them the direction, proper supervision under President Kufuor - [Interruptions.] And see what we have bequeathed to the good people of Ghana. We will hold them responsible if anything goes wrong and they should not tell lies about the fact that 800 million or whatever - [Interruptions.] They should not lie about that.
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.
Madam Speaker 12:55 p.m.
I will have two more interventions. Yes, the Hon Minority Leader? And then I would go to that side and we will close the debate.
Mr. Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu (NPP -- Suame) 12:55 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I rise, in principle, to support the motion before us.
But Madam Speaker, I have some difficulty. As I said, in principle, I support it but I have some difficulty. The difficulty
relates to the position of the GNPC in this and the headship of GNPC.
Madam Speaker, this whole Agreement, this Petroleum Agreement is between the Republic of Ghana, the GNPC, Vanco Limited and LUKOIL Overseas Ghana Limited.
Madam Speaker, we have this situation where the person who negotiated the Agreement on behalf of Vanco Ghana Limited is now the Chief Executive of GNPC. Madam Speaker, the matter has been raised by my Hon Colleague, the Ranking Member on Energy, and indeed, to inform this House, we have a letter to the effect that Nana Boakye Asafu- Adjaye of Nana Boakye Asafu-Adjaye and Associates, his involvement with Vanco Ghana Limited has been terminated and therefore, he is no more in the service of Vanco Ghana Limited.
Madam Speaker, two things -- whereas these documents appear to inform this House of this matter of severance of relationship, unfortunately, perusing the document, I have just seen that the letter itself is not even dated; it has no date and this Parliament and I thought that the proper thing ought to be done. This is the first concern that I can raise.
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Madam Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Is it a point of order? All right. A point of order. Let me take a point of order.
Mr. Asaga 12:55 p.m.
On a point of order Madam Speaker; there is a breach of confi-dentiality and faith. We discussed this matter thoroughly including the letter. So there was this very good understanding that between us and the Leadership -- [Interruptions.]
Madam Speaker, we held a discussion with the Hon Minority Leader and the Ranking Member and that is the reason why this whole document was rescheduled so that we could get the letter. They told us that they did not want to muddy the waters and bring the man into disrepute; that once we brought the letter, the discussion on the personality of the new Chief Executive would be curtailed. I can now not see why he is now raising so many issues about it when we had agreed in principle that this matter would be curtailed once the document is brought.
For me, this is breach of faith, breach of confidentiality and I think that the Hon Minority Leader should assist us to curtail further discussion on this.
Madam Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Hon Member, he says he has already discussed this issue -- [Some Hon Members: No, no.]
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:55 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I would not deny that some form of discussion went on between me and the Hon Minister. But the submission of my Hon Colleague is very outrageous.
Madam Speaker, he cannot impugn my integrity by what he has said.
Madam Speaker, yes, when I got
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Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I believe you would caution my Hon Colleague that we are not in a market place -- [Hear! Hear!] An Hon Member cannot just get up, switch on his microphone and begin talking, particularly when somebody is on the floor.

Madam Speaker, the point I am making, in my view, is very germane. First of all, I have talked about the fact that the letter itself is not dated and this is a serious document to Parliament. If we have to attend to it, let us do so and maybe, get the proper thing done. As I said, the principle, we all do agree on. But if there are certain things pertaining to it which are incorrect, let us address them and then move on. That is all that I am saying.

I was also making the point about the conflict of interest and I said that it is against international best practices. If my Hon Colleague would want to dispute what I have said, he can raise it and we can further debate this matter. We want the best for the country. So let him detach me from this business and let us ensure that what we do is the best for the country. That is all that I am looking for.

In principle, I have nothing against

the Agreement but the issues that I have raised, I believe, we should address and if we are able to sufficiently address them, then we can move on. That is all that I am saying.
Madam Speaker 1:05 p.m.
Hon Asaga, he is not denying that you had a discussion. He says that now looking at the letter, it is not dated and signed, the letter on which you are now relying to say that the man has been removed. What do you have to say to that? The letter is not signed.
Mr. Asaga 1:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I think in this Honourable House, when there are matters of this sort we normally try to dialogue and that is why right from Monday, we have been dialoguing with him -- [Interruption.] Yes, of course. Oh, I am coming. Why? Is he saying today is the only time we have dialogued with him? [Interruption.]
No. I am saying within this week we have been dialoguing with him and because I am very honourable, I am not going to reveal what the Hon Minority Leader agreed with me on this letter and I want us to meet outside. I will remind him and if it is not correct, he should come back again.
Madam Speaker 1:05 p.m.
I do not like “let us meet outside”. I fear [Laughter.] Anyway -- [Interruptions.]
Mr. Dan Botwe 1:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I am a bit uncomfortable with the discussions taking place here. The impression is being created that there has been some private deal, some discussion had taken place between the Leadership of Parliament. This Honourable House is supposed to approve of something which would bind the whole of Ghana.
They put their trust in us; we have a letter which is not dated; the impression is this, somebody who has represented this company, Vanco, all this while to transact business with the Government
of Ghana has now been appointed as the Chief Executive or Ag. Chief Executive of GNPC and he is on the Board and they are going to supervise this same thing. Then a letter is quickly brought to give the impression that that appointment with Vanco has been terminated. That letter is not even dated and it has been brought to this House and we are beginning to talk about some private negotiations or private arrangement so that all of us here --
It is not only the Leadership who are going to approve of this motion; all of us would be bound by that and it would be said that Hon Members of this Honourable House on behalf of Ghana have approved of something that is fishy. I am very uncomfortable of this process and I think the Committee Chair and the Committee and the Leadership owe this House some explanation.
Mr. Bagbin 1:05 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I am very, very sad about the way things have gone because many of the things that have been said have been done behind my back. [Interruptions.] I just got a copy of the letter. I have not seen this letter before until now. I think that as a House we are the people -- not even GNPC. It is this House that the people of Ghana are relying upon to save the interest of the nation. I think that we need to do things properly.
This letter, for me, is of no legal value -- [Hear! Hear!] The letter titled “To whom it may concern” cannot be a response to a request by a parliamentary committee on an issue; I do not think so.
It is true that the letter is also not dated and I am not convinced that a company that I am told is distinguished would be using such letterhead. The way the whole thing is done is shoddy. I do not think that we can rely on this to do business in this House.
I would also want to draw the attention of the Committee to the issue of accounting.
Even though there are some explanations, the accounting issue that has been raised by Hon P.C. Appiah-Ofori would have to be looked into. This is because he talked about the issue of forecast, variations between budget actuals and forecasts and we need to - [Interruption.] We need to look at that because all the responses did not address the issue that he raised. It is true that the net proceeds, we could be earning between 67 to 71 per cent. But in looking at the accounting, the accounting could lead to a loss because the net proceeds would depend on the kind of accounting principles and these things that you adopt.
So I think that we need to stand down this matter [Hear! Hear!] We have to reschedule it for the Committee to go back and do a better job before they come back to this House. I think that we have to make sure that we do the right thing always.
The issue of the headship of Vanco Ghana Limited also now after negotiating on behalf of Vanco Ghana Limited and getting terms into an Agreement signed by the Government of Ghana with insider information and all those things now becoming the Chief Executive of GNPC is something that cannot be tolerated. I do not think that it is tidy enough.
I agree with the Hon Minority Leader that it is not tidy enough. I think that we should not encourage such practices in this country [Hear! Hear!] This country does not lack human resource [Hear! Hear!] We have the men; we have the women and I do not think that it is proper for us to do that [Hear! Hear!]
I would want to urge and plead with Madam Speaker, for us to refer the matter back to the Committee and the Business Committee will later on reschedule it for consideration. I do not think that a good job has been done and that should be

referred back. We need to do our things well.
Madam Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Can I have my say on this matter?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, since you will be ruling on the matter, I think my character has been impugned sufficiently by the Chairman of the Committee. Let me set the records straight.
My Hon Colleague said that he had been consulting me since Monday -- the Hon Member from Nabdam. Monday, I was not even here. Where he saw me to be making those negotiations -- Maybe, he saw my ghost. I never saw him and he knows that. Why he should come here and mislead us, I do not understand.
Indeed, we met the Hon Minister right behind where you are sitting, Madam Speaker, and the Hon Minister -- We raised this matter of Mr. Nana Boakye Asafu-Adjaye and he indicated that the man had resigned and that there was a letter to that effect. I said well, as for the letter -- and he told us that it was not immediately available. And I said, I believed he was an honourable man, so he would not mislead us if it had not been done, that we would hold him to his word.
Then the Hon E. T. Mensah insisted that no, what was worth doing was worth doing well, so he should fetch the letter for us, whereupon I entered. Then he submits this to us, we find faults with it, we are raising it and this kind of diversionary tactics and imputing and ascribing words to me, I just cannot understand. But I believe our relationship would not be strained
by this unbecoming attitude of my Hon Colleague.
I think the Hon Majority Leader has concurred with the issues that we have raised. They are not tidy. Let us do the proper thing and beyond that -- As I said, in principle we have nothing against the Agreement but let us tidy up these loose ends and move on. That is all that we are requesting and I believe the Hon Member for Nabdam will take a cue and not send us back. We are already tired of dancing the Pousese, and we want to move forward.
Madam Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Hon Asaga, I am not calling on you to speak, [Hear! Hear!] I am just asking you whether you have any objection to going back to look at the different issues that have been raised. Because I think it is worth going to look into them.
Mr. Asaga 1:15 p.m.
Yes, Madam Speaker, I think that after all these discussions, it is in the right direction that we should step it down and then bring it back.
But the comment that I have to make is a disagreement to the Majority Leader and Hon Appiah-Ofori about the accounting procedures and that we may have losses. That issue has been captured by the module agreement, article 10 and therefore, if they are not privy to it, it is there and that protects the Government of Ghana.
Madam Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Hon Majority Leader, I think I will accede to the request to stand this to another day and refer the Report back to the Committee to look into these important matters that have been raised and to deal with them before it is submitted again. This ruling, therefore, affects items 11 and 12 and it brings us to the end of today's agenda.
Mr. E. T. Mensah 1:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I beg to move, that this House do adjourn to Tuesday, ten o'clock.
Mr. Ambrose P. Dery 1:15 p.m.
Madam Speaker, I beg to second the motion for adjournment to ten o'clock, Tuesday before noon.
Question put and motion agreed to.
ADJOURNMENT 1:15 p.m.