Debates of 20 Mar 2015

MR SPEAKER
PRAYERS 11:05 a.m.

Mr Speaker 11:05 a.m.
Hon Members, the Secretary to the Cabinet has informed the Clerk to Parliament of Ghana about some slight changes in the composition of the Cabinet.
I would just inform the House on the relevant part of that communication from the Secretary to the Cabinet to the Clerk to Parliament.
The relevant part for our purpose is that, the Ministry of Water Resources, Works and Housing replaces the Ministry of Transport on the list of Ministries which constitute the Cabinet.
Hon Members, you may recall that some weeks ago, I did indicate to the House the composition of the Cabinet. That list remains intact and the only change is the one I have just mentioned to you. On the earlier one, the Ministry of Transport was a Cabinet Ministry and now, it has been replaced with the Ministry of Water Resources, Works and Housing.
Hon Members, thank you very much for your attention.
VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS AND THE OFFICIAL REPORT 11:05 a.m.

Mr Speaker 11:05 a.m.
Hon Members, Correction of the Votes and Proceedings of Thursday, 19th March, 2015.
  • [No correction was made to the Official Report of Tuesday, 17th March, 2015.]
  • Mr Speaker 11:05 a.m.
    Hon Members, Business Statement for the Eighth Week.
    Chairman of the Business Committee?
    Mr Alfred K. Agbesi 11:05 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would want to present the Business Statement on behalf of the Chairman of the Committee.
    Mr Speaker 11:05 a.m.
    Very well.
    BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE 11:15 a.m.

    THE HOUSE LIKELY TO RISE SINE 11:15 a.m.

    DIE 11:15 a.m.

    Dr Owusu A. Akoto 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am very concerned about the likelihood of the House rising on Thursday. It sounds like we will either rise on Thursday or not. This is because some of us have programmes to attend to and we are only less than a week from Thursday. Under what conditions would this House not rise on Thursday?
    Mr Speaker 11:15 a.m.
    Hon Member, I am the one who adjourns the House sine die. So, they can only give an indication. They are only giving an indication but I will invariably adjourn the House, but not the Business Committee.
    Dr O. A. Akoto 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, may I direct this question to you —[Laughter.]
    Mr Speaker 11:15 a.m.
    Unfortunately, you do not direct questions to the Chair.
    Mr Kennedy N. Osei 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, my Question to the Minister for Power was programmed for last Wednesday. He was to appear before the House. There was some change and so, he could not come.
    You advised that the Hon Deputy Majority Leader reschedules it. I thought the Business Committee was going to give prominence to my Question, but it seems they have put it at the tail end of the day that the House is going to rise. I would want to find out if —
    Mr Speaker 11:15 a.m.
    You are absolutely correct.
    Business Committee, programme his Question to be answered next week, because I made the directive. You informed the House that the Hon Minister for Power wanted to come and answer those Questions personally and I gave the directive from the Chair.
    Hon Deputy Majority Leader, about his Question?
    Mr Agbesi 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, we would do further consultations and see when we can programme his Question, but we would definitely re-programme his Question. This is because we know the Hon Minister for Power will appear before the House.
    Mr Isaac K. Asiamah 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would want to seek your guidance on Standing Order 56 (1) on the Business Statement and with your permission, I beg to quote:
    “Every Friday the Chairman of the Business Committee shall make a statement in the House of the business arranged for the succeeding week….”
    Mr Speaker, in other provisions, when the main person is not there, the person next in command is provided the lag. For example, yourself, in your absence —
    Mr Speaker 11:15 a.m.
    He indeed, made the application and I allowed him.
    Mr I. K. Asiamah 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, my concern is that, I think it should be stated here in the Standing Orders that, in the absence of maybe the Chairman or the Majority Leader, the Deputy can do so. It is not clearly stated here and that is why I am asking whether we need to review this particular provision.
    In your case, for example, the chain of command is stated, whether in the Constitution or the Standing Orders, but it is not stated in this case that, in the absence of the Chairman or the Majority Leader, the Deputy could do so. My thinking is that, it should be made clear in our review of the Standing Orders, that in the absence of the Chairman of the Business Committee, the Deputy or a member of the Committee could do so.
    Mr Speaker 11:15 a.m.
    Hon Member, you know that the practice of the House is that, any Hon Member of a Committee of the House can move a Motion on behalf of the Committee. Indeed, it can even be an Hon Member from the Minority side. It does not even need to be the Vice Chairman. Once it is the report of the Committee —
    I see where you are coming from but you have to marry the provision and the practice of the House.
    Mr I. K. Asiamah 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I understand, but it is even stated in the Standing Orders that, an Member could do so, but it is not stated here and that is my concern.
    Mr Agbesi 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the meeting which prepared the Business Statement which has been distributed was chaired by the Vice Chairman of the Committee and the Statement is signed by the Vice Chairman.
    Mr Speaker, I am the Vice Chairman and I have presented it. I do not know what the problem of the Hon Member is -- because I am the Vice Chairman of the Committee and I presided over that meeting and I have presented the Report.
    Mr I.K. Asiamah 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am not worried about who reads it. That is not the case. It is about making a specific provision in the Standing Orders. It is not about the Hon Member for Ashaiman. It is about stating it clearly in the Standing Orders. As I said, in other provisions, it is stated clearly, the chain of command when the Speaker is not there, but it is not here
    Mr Speaker 11:15 a.m.
    Can you give us an example of where it is stated?
    You do not have to state the case of the Speaker and his two deputies, but that of other committees?
    Mr I. K. Asiamah 11:15 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, clearly, those things have been made clear and I have read the provisions. When one reads about the other committees, for example, where they are stated, clearly, the Vice Chairman or an Hon Member could do so. But it is absent here and that is my concern, that we should make these provisions clear. [Pause.]
    Mr Speaker 11:15 a.m.
    Hon Members, look at Standing Order 212 (2):
    “The minutes of the proceedings of a Committee shall whenever possible be brought up and laid on the Table of the House with the report of the Committee by the Chairman or Vice-Chairman or any Member of the Committee nominated by the Committee.”
    So, there is a provision — it is supported by the rules, practices and conventions of the House.
    Mr Alexander K. Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am grateful for the opportunity.
    On Friday, 20th of February -- I am quoting from the Official Report --
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Hon Member, we are on the Business Statement programmed --
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Yes, Mr Speaker, I am giving you the background.
    The Speaker in the Chair at the time, your able First Deputy, Hon Barton-Odro directed and Mr Speaker, with your leave, I would like to refer to that.
    After having applied for his leave for a clarification on this issue of emergency power agreement which is being signed between the Electricity Company of Ghana (ECG) and Karpower of Turkey, he directed that the Business Committee should make arrangements for the Minister for Finance to appear before the House to give a status report of the issue raised, so that we could take it up from there.
    From 20th of February to date, I believe if we are doing a count, it has been over three weeks. I have gone through the Business Statement ending the 26th of March, 2015.
    Mr Speaker, this directive of the Chair has neither been reviewed nor rescinded. It has still not been complied with and with the greatest respect --
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Did the Hon First Deputy Speaker who was presiding at the time give a timeline?
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, with your leave, let me quote him.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    No! I will want to know. Did he give a timeline?
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am being intimidated by the Hon Deputy Majority Leader. I am listening to you and he is -- [Interruption.]
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Ignore everybody and listen to me.
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would want your fullest protection.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    I am protecting you.
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    I am grateful.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Has the First Deputy Speaker given a timeline? I will want to know.
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, let me quote him -- [Interruption.]
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Did he give a timeline? It is either yes or no.
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the --
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Hon Member for Effutu, did he give a timeline, so that if I make any directive from the Chair, I will make it to the Business Committee?
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, impliedly, he meant that they should expedite action on the matter because it was a matter of public interest -- it was constitutional.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Hon Member, if you are raising an issue that you are concerned about, and the Chair has directed that the Business Committee should do something about it, if you think that the Business Committee is not doing anything about it and you feel strongly about it, there are a number of tools at your disposal that you are supposed to use. This is the second time that you are raising this matter on the floor of the House.
    If you feel strongly about it and the Business Committee is not trying to pursue the matter, as an Hon Member of this House, there are different procedures you could use to bring this same subject matter to the floor of the House.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    As regards the constitu- tionality of the issue, it is a different matter. Our pronouncement here is neither here nor there and that is why whenever you are concerned about constitu- tionality, you know where you normally go. So, if you feel strongly about the matter, there are other tools available to you. But I will ask the Business Committee to look at the Hansard of the 20th of February which you have referred to and then let us do the necessary consultation with Leadership and see how best we can manage the situation.
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am exceedingly grateful and take a cue.
    Mr Justice J. Appiah 11:25 a.m.
    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    I am drawing your attention to the House Committee. We are going on recess next week Thursday and I am very particular about the Job 600 building. Hon Members are still transacting business in their car booths. So, when at all would we get our offices?
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Hon Member, you are out of order. You are an Hon Member of the House Committee.
    Mr J. J. Appiah 11:25 a.m.
    We have not been meeting. We met only twice the entire year. If we do not do that, next year, we would still not get our offices.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Hon Member for Ablekuma North, I know you know the status of that project more than any other Hon Member in this Chamber.
    Mr J. J. Appiah 11:25 a.m.
    We want to move in.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Please, if you want the House Committee to meet, get in touch with the Chairman of the House Committee. You are members of the Committee, so how can the Vice Chairman of the Business Committee respond to an issue of a meeting of Committee of the House? Do you get me? You are a member of the Committee and you know what to do for the House Committee to meet.
    Mr J. J. Appiah 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, you are so powerful that you can instruct them. So, we need your instruction. We need to get our offices; we are still transacting business in our car booths and this is very serious. If you could order them --
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Hon Member for Ablekuma North, take your seat.
    The last person, Hon Member for Nsawam-Adoagyiri?
    Mr Frank Annoh-Dompreh 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am grateful for the opportunity.
    More than a month ago, your goodself constituted a committee to come out with findings why this House was visited by dumsor dumsor. I have been following that keenly and I am worried because it seemingly appears that your directive is being flouted. I wish to know from Leadership and the Committee that was formed, what practical steps have been taken to come out with the findings as directed by your goodself, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Hon Member, when the Member for Tema East raised the issue, we tried to find out what the status was. I was informed that there was a delay from the Clerks-at-the-Table in communicating to the members of the committee about their work and that caused the delay. When I give a directive, there is a follow-up from the Clerks-at-the-Table and that was not done timeously and that explained the delay.
    The good news also is that, since that day, we have never had any problem again in the Chamber with regard to the lights off. So, that also shows that the problem has been addressed.
    Hon Members, that brings us to the end of the consideration of Business Statement for the Eighth Week. Business Statement for the eighth week accordingly adopted.
    Question time?
    Mr Agbesi 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Minister for Finance has business to perform on behalf of the House. There is an urgent matter which he must perform and he needs to leave the House now to do that on behalf of the House. I would like to apply that we vary the order of business and take the presentation of Papers, so that he could do his business and go and do the other one in the interest of the House.
    Mr Speaker 11:25 a.m.
    Hon Deputy Majority Leader, we had some discussions in my Lobby this morning with the Hon Member for Old Tafo who was representing the Leadership of the Minority about the possibility, with regard to Committees with referral, especially the Finance Committee -- to come on Monday to transact business. You have not made reference to it. Have you changed your mind with regard to that? You are in charge of Government Business.
    Mr Agbesi 11:25 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I was just trying to catch your attention to bring it to the notice of the House. I am sorry that I did not do that at the appropriate time.
    The request to Committees with referrals is that the House is not sitting on Monday but we would request that those who have referrals would come on
    Monday and do their consideration and make the reports ready for the House's consideration on Tuesday or in the course of the week.
    This is to give the House enough time to rise as proposed. Particularly, the Finance Committee has a lot of things pending before them and we urge them to come to the House on Monday to do this business. This is also in reference to other Committees which also have businesses to enable the House to complete its business on the day we are supposed to rise.
    Dr Anthony A. Osei 11:35 a.m.
    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    That is right; that was the agreement. In lieu of that, we would have had to meet on Monday but what he failed to mention was that, our directive was that Parliament would fully take care of Hon Members like they were working on Tuesday. He did not add the part that, they should assume that if they are working on Monday, it is like they are working on Tuesday all the way through. So, Leadership should make the appropriate arrangement to make sure that during their extended meetings, they are well taken care of.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Deputy Majority Leader said that the Hon Minister for Finance had to do something on behalf of the House. He is not here. So, I do not know why he said he had to do something for the House. He is gone. So, he should not refer to the Hon Minister for Finance. The Hon Minister for Finance just walked out. So, I do not know why he is asking permission to vary the business.
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the business for the Minister for Finance also concerns his deputy. So ….
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon Deputy Majority Leader, you made a specific application. You mentioned the Hon Minister for Finance. If it was a slip of tongue, say so, so that we make progress.
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, it was a slip of tongue -- [Laughter.]
    The application covers his deputy as well. So, if we vary the order, he can do his business and go and do the business on behalf of the House.
    Dr A. A. Osei 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I believe the business that needs to be undertaken by the Hon Minister for Finance can be taken by the Hon Deputy Minister for Finance very well. So, there is no point in asking for that application since the deputy is here. We need the Hon Deputy Minister for Finance here for other reasons. So, we would be glad that he does that.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon DeputyMajority Leader, what business are you referring to? Which business do you want to vary?
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    Presentation of Papers -- items 6 and 7.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    So, Hon Deputy Majority Leader, do I then move and take all the items that are ready under item 6 before I move to Questions?
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, item 6 (b).
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon Deputy Majority Leader, I am asking whether I can take all the items under Presentation of Papers - - item number 6.
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    Yes, Mr Speaker. In the circumstance, you can take all the Presentation of Papers under item 6.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Members, at the commencement of Public Business -- Presentation of Papers -- item 6 (a) by the Hon Minister for Local Government and Rural Development.
    Hon Deputy Majority Leader?
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister has just stepped out. So, Mr Speaker, with your permission, if the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources can lay the Paper on behalf of the Hon Minister for Local Government and Rural Development --
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    An application for the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources to lay the Paper on behalf of the Hon Minister for Local Government and Rural Development.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon Members, this is only laying and referral, please. [Laughter.]
    Hon Members, item 6 (a) on behalf of the Hon Minister for Local Government and Rural Development by the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources.
    PAPERS 11:35 a.m.

    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon Member for Garu. Are you Garu or Tempane?
    Mr Dominic A. Azumah 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, since --
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    What is the name of your new constituency? -- [Pause.] Hon Dominic Azumah, are you Garu or Tempane?
    Mr Azumah 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am Garu.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Very well.
    Yes?
    Mr Azumah 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I was just making an intervention, that since it has something to do directly with the District Level Elections, whether you would not consider in your own opinion to have a joint Committee to include the Committee on Local Government in the discussions, at your discretion.
    Dr A. A. Osei 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I thought my Senior Colleague's name is Hon Dominic Azumah. But he got up and said, “I am Garu”. Mr Speaker, his name is “Dominic Azumah”.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    He was responding to the Question -- [Laughter.]
    Dr A. A. Osei 11:35 a.m.
    No! But he cannot be Garu. [Laughter.] Garu is his constituency.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    No, I had posed the question whether his constituency was Garu or -- [Laughter] -- Whether he is representing Garu or Tempane -- [Laughter] -- Then he said he was Garu. [Laughter].
    Well, Hon Members, the Chairman of the Committee on Local Government is suggesting that they add them. But clearly, under the rules, this is a matter entirely for the Committee on Subsidiary Legislation. I know your immense knowledge in local government matters for over 20 years but this falls squarely within the mandate of the Committee on Subsidiary Legislation.
    rose
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Yes?
    Mr Avoka 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I appreciate the intervention by the Hon Chairman of the Committee on Local Government but I think that to fast-track matters, we can incorporate the Hon Chairman and Hon Ranking Member of the Committee on Local Government to assist the Committee on Subsidiary Legislation rather than the entire members of the Committee. That might be unnecessary. So, we need the Hon Chairman and the Hon Ranking Member.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon Members, the Hon Chairman and the Hon Ranking Member to join them to facilitate business in considering this regulation.
    By the Deputy Minister for Finance, (Mr Cassiel Ato Baah Forson) (on behalf of the Minister for Finance) --
    Loan Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and the African Develop- ment Fund for an amount of twenty- eight million, six hundred thousand Units of Accounts (UA28,600,000) [equivalent to US$42.90 million] and a Grant amounting to nineteen million, eight hundred and sixty thousand Units of Accounts (UA19,860,000) [equivalent to US$29.79 million] to support the Electricity Distribution System Reinforcement and Extension Project.
    Referred to the Finance Committee.
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    Item 7 --
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    No! Wait. I have not done the referrals yet.
    Hon Deputy Majority Leader, can you guide me? Is it going to the Finance Committee?
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    The Finance Committee.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Very well.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Item 6 (b) (iii)?
    By the Deputy Minister for Finance, (Mr Cassiel Ato Baah Forson) (on behalf of the Minister for Finance) --
    Financing Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and the International Fund for Agricultural Development for an amount of twenty-three million Special Drawing Rights (SDR23,000,000), [equivalent to thirty-six million, six hundred thousand United States dollars (US$36.6 million)] to co- finance the Ghana Agricultural Sector Investment Project (GASIP).
    Referred to the Finance Committee.
    Mr Avoka 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, may I respectfully apply that you add the Committee on Mines and Energy to the Finance Committee.
    If you look at the subject matter, it is not just a loan thing but it also concerns the distribution system reinforcement and extension project.
    With regard to the first, 6 (b) (ii), it also concerns electricity distribution system reinforcement and extension project aspect.
    So, the Committee on Mines and Energy would be able to assist or draw the attention of the Ministry as far as the Distribution System Reinforcement and Extension Project aspect is concerned. They do not even know the distribution bits and the rest of them and the Finance Committee would not be privileged to have information or knowledge as far as the distribution and the rest of them are concerned.
    They will be looking specifically at the finance aspect. So, if you would respectfully uphold my application, we can add the Committee on Mines and Energy to them.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon Deputy Majority Leader, what do you say to that application?
    Mr Agbesi 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, upon second thought, the Committee on Mines and Energy should also join.
    Mr Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon Member for Old Tafo?
    Dr A. A. Osei 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, we are at the pleasure of the House. Very soon, I believe one can stretch the argument and say everything is financial, so the Finance Committee should also join.
    Mr Speaker, I think that it is strictly on loans; it is a financing issue. The Hon Ranking Member and the Hon Chairman could go there. We would not discuss any equipment; we should not. The Hon Chairman and the Hon Ranking Member should avail themselves of the terms and conditions. This is because getting -- we are being asked to meet on Monday --
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Hon Members, this is solely a financing agreement; it is a loan issue. But I will ask the Hon Chairman and the Hon Ranking Member to join them as we did in the case of the regulation.
    Then in the case of item 6 (b) (iii) on the Order Paper, the Hon Chairman and the Hon Ranking Member for the Committee on Food, Agriculture and Cocoa Affairs should also join.
    Mr Osei Bonsu Amoah 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, you said that you were referring to the Hon Chairman and the Hon Ranking Member for the Committee on Mines and Energy. I wanted to know who the Hon Chairman of the Committee on Mines and Energy is. I do not think we have a Chairman for the Committee on Mines and Energy .
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Well, where there is no Chairman, it should be the Vice Chairman. If I should use the phrase of the Hon Deputy Majority Leader, “the Chairman includes the Vice Chairman.”
    Mr Kobina Tahir Hammond 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, no! I do not think the Chairman includes the Vice Chairman in this context.
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    I am not saying it does; I am saying that where there is no Chairman for a committee, the Vice Chairman should represent --
    Mr Hammond 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, we have been made to understand that there is an acting Chairman in the absence of a Chairman. I think that is the system we
    are all operating now. The Vice Chairman is there alright, but I understand that there is also an acting Chairman.
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Hon Deputy Majority Leader, if your side has somebody to act on that Committee, that person then represents the Chairman, if you have not yet nominated anybody. Nothing has come to the House for approval. At best, the person could only act. Otherwise, what is known to the House is the Vice Chairman.
    Mr Hammond 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, somebody is acting.
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    So, please, this is an internal matter that could be arranged, so that you could get representation from the Majority side on the Committee.
    Mr Hammond 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the other matter I wanted to refer to is, if the view is that this is a matter suitable for the Finance Committee, so be it. I personally do not appreciate the situation where only the Hon Chairman or the acting Chairman, the Hon Vice Chairman and the Hon Ranking Member would attend on this Committee. We are just going there to be informed.
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Hon Member, the rules are very clear. It is my view that this falls within the mandate of the Finance Committee; my views are very clear.
    Mr Hammond 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, that is very correct. So, I am helping --
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    So, if an argument is made, that because there is a distribution network, et cetera and they want to be represented to assist the Committee to facilitate the Business of the House, I do not think there is anything wrong with it.
    Mr Hammond 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, that is the point; I was trying to help you, Mr Speaker, that in view of the decision you and the Hon Ranking Member for the Finance Committee are taking, it is better that we leave it to the Finance Committee, then the Committee on Mines and Energy will drop out of it.
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Very well; the Hon Chairman and the Hon Ranking Member on those Committees are accordingly withdrawn.
    Hon Members, let us make progress.
    Item 7 -- Presentation and First Reading of Bills -- The Deputy Minister for Finance, on behalf of the Minister for Finance.
    Dr A. A. Osei 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Chairman of the Committee on Food, Agriculture and Cocoa Affairs --
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Hon Member, you have not caught my eye. I have withdrawn all the Hon Chairmen and Hon Ranking Members. Let the Finance Committee do their work and report to the House.
    Dr A. A. Osei 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, on a different matter, I need guidance from you to see if the Hon Chairman of the Committee on Food, Agriculture and Cocoa Affairs is properly dressed.
    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Hon Member, please, you are out of order. We have called an item and they started reading the Long Title to the Bill; you got up and --
    BILLS -- FIRST READING 11:45 a.m.

    Mr Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Hon Members, we will go back to item 4 on the Order Paper -- Question time.
    Hon Members, we have the Minister for Roads and Highways in the House to respond to Questions from Hon Members.
    We will start with Question 208, standing in the name of the Hon Member for Talensi.
    Question 209.
    ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 11:45 a.m.

    MINISTRY OF ROADS AND 11:45 a.m.

    HIGHWAYS 11:45 a.m.

    Minister for Roads and Highways (Alhaji Inusah A. B. Fuseini) 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the above mentioned feeder roads are located in the Komenda/Edina/Eguafo/ Abrem Municipality of the Central Region. They are gravel surface roads in a fair condition.
    Current Programme
    The Department of Feeder Roads will carry out routine maintenance works in 2015 to improve the surface conditions to make them motorable throughout the year.
    Future Programme
    Engineering studies will be carried out on the roads before the end of the year to determine the appropriate intervention.
    Dr (Nana) Ato Arthur 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, for the Hon Minister, they are gravel surface roads in a fair condition. I am afraid that the Department of Feeder Roads has not helped the Hon Minister.
    I would like to know from the Hon Minister, that the 15.2 kilometres of the Abrem-Agona-Esiam-Effutu road was awarded on contract in 2007. About 10 kilometres have been tarred. The contract was abrogated in 2012. Is he aware of that? And what occasioned the abrogation of the contract?
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am not aware that the contract on that road had been abrogated.
    Dr (Nana) Ato Arthur 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, now that he is aware that it is not a gravel
    road but it has been partly tarred, when is the project going back to tender?
    Alhaji I.A. B. Fuseini 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, my information is that these roads are gravel surfaced, and I am receiving it for the first time that part of the road has been tarred. So, we would cause an investigation into the status of these roads and determine what further action to take.
    Dr (Nana) Ato Arthur 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the two roads -- the Ayensudu-Abeyee- Dwabo and the Kissi-Besease, they are in a very bad shape. The Hon Minister said that the Department of Feeder Roads would carry out routine maintenance works in 2015. How soon would the routine maintenance works be carried out? Any timeline?
    Mr Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Hon Minister?
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, we have started the procurement processes and within the shortest possible time, if we are through with all the Motions, we will award the contract and work would commence soon. We are planning to award those contracts before the rains set in.
    Mr Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Hon Members, Question number 211.
    Hon Member for Offinso North?
    Afrancho-Taekwaem, Nkenkaasu, et cetera. Feeder Roads
    (Maintainace)
    Q.211. Mr Augustine Collins Ntim asked the Minister for Roads and Highways what plans had been put in place by the Ministry to ensure that the following feeder roads in the Offinso
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Afrancho-Tackwaem (23km) --
    Background
    The Afrancho -Tackwaem feeder road is located in the Offinso North District of the Ashanti Region. It is a gravel surface road in a fair condition.
    Current Programme
    The Department of Feeder Roads will carry out routine maintenance works in 2015 to improve the surface condition to make it motorable throughout the year.
    Future Programme
    Engineering studies will be carried out on these roads before the end of the year. The outcome of the studies will determine the appropriate intervention to be undertaken.
    ii) Nkenkensu -Nsenoa (15 km)
    iii) Asempanaye-Nsenoa (19.9km)
    Background
    The road from Nkenkansu to Nsenoa branches off at Asempaneye on the Kumasi Techiman road and so, the above two roads are the same.
    Current Programme
    Routine maintenance work will be carried out as part of the 2015 maintenance programme to make the road motorable.
    Future Programme
    Engineering studies will be carried out on these roads before the end of the year. The outcome of the studies will determine the appropriate intervention to be undertaken.
    iv) Nyinatase -Kutre (4.5 km)
    v) Nkenkensu-Seseko (18 km)
    Background
    The above mentioned roads are located in the Offinso North District of the Ashanti Region. They are gravel surface roads in a fair condition.
    Current Programme
    Routine maintenance works will be carried out on these roads as part of our 2015 maintenance programme.
    Future Programme
    Engineering studies will be carried out on these roads before the end of the year. The outcome of the studies will determine the appropriate intervention to be undertaken.
    vi) Akomadan-Bosomposo
    Background
    Akomadan is located on the Kumasi- Techiman road. The road to Bosomposo branches off at Saniso No.1 on the Akomadan -Techimantia trunk road. It is 11.6 kilometres feeder road located in the Offinso North District in the Ashanti Region. It is a gravel surface road in a fair condition.
    Current Programme
    Routine maintenance works will be carried out on this road as part of our 2015 maintenance programme.
    Future Programme
    Engineering studies will be carried out on these roads before the end of the year. The outcome of the studies will determine the appropriate intervention to be undertaken.
    Mr Ntim 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister is saying that the 23 Kilometres Afrancho-Taekwaem road is in a fair condition. I really want to find out from him whether he is aware that some segments of that portion, about five kilometres particularly from Tackwaem to Nsenoa Fante, are simply impassable and they have remained so for the past one and a half years.
    Is he aware of that?
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, our assessment that the road is in a fair condition is an average. We know that certain portions of the road might be in terrible conditions but averagely, the road is in a fair condition.
    Mr Ntim 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would want to find out from the Hon Minister, giving the current circumstances where some segments of the road are simply impassable and they have remained so for about one and a half years, what, as a matter of urgency, can the Ministry do to help salvage this situation?
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, what we would do is that we would prioritise the routine maintenance and direct efforts towards remedying those portions that are in terrible conditions.
    Mr Ntim 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would want to find out from the Hon Minister, looking at the exigency of the situation, can I have
    an idea when he intends to undertake those routine maintenance. Timelines?
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, the difficulty in giving an exact date is that, we have to go through procurement processes. Before long, you would see an advertisement in the Papers requesting offers from the contractors to undertake those projects. That would give you an indication of when these works would be carried out.
    Mr Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Question numbered 212. Hon Member for Offinso North?
    Afrancho/Nkenkaasu/Akomadan town roads (Construction)
    Q. 212. Mr Augustine Collins Ntim asked the Minister for Roads and Highways what measures had been put in place by the Ministry to ensure that the following town roads in the Offinso North District were constructed:
    (i) Afrancho town roads
    (ii) Nkenkaasu town roads
    (iii) Akomadan town roads.
    Alhaji A. B. I Fuseini 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    Background
    The above mentioned towns are major towns located along the Kumasi - Techiman trunk road. They are in the Offinso North District of the Ashanti Region.
    Current Programme
    The Ghana Highway Authority, as part of its 2015 Routine Maintenance Programme, will carry out maintenance works to improve the surface conditions of the roads.

    Future Programme

    Engineering studies will be carried out on these roads before the end of the year. The outcome of the studies will determine the appropriate intervention to be undertaken.
    Mr Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Yes, Hon Member?
    Mr Ntim 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, last year, the same Question was answered and basically the same Answer is being provided.
    I would want to find out from the Hon Minister whether sufficient budgetary allocation has been provided in the 2015 Budget Statement for the maintenance of these town roads.
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 11:55 a.m.
    Yes, Mr Speaker, sufficient budgetary allocation has been made available for routine maintenance. I am sure if you go back to last year's Answer, subsequent to the Answer, you would see that the Ghana Highways Authority did some routine maintenance on the roads.
    Mr Ntim 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, unfortunately, no. For about the past five years or so, there has not been any routine maintenance works on the Akomadan town roads. I would be so much happy if I can have an idea how much allocation was provided for the Akomadan town; Nkenkaasu and Afrancho town roads in this year's Budget Statement.
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, standing here, I am unable to give you
    the exact amount but what I can assure you is that, this year, routine maintenance would be carried out on those roads.
    I give that assurance.
    Mr Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Question numbered 218.
    Hon Member for Atwima Kwanwoma?
    Boko -Nweneso III Road (Tarring )
    Q. 218. Dr Kojo Appiah-Kubi asked the Minister for Roads and Highways when the Boko-Nweneso III Road would be tarred.
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    Background
    The Boko-Nweneso No.3 feeder road forms part of the Ohwimase-Boko-Foase - Nweneso No.3 feeder road linking the Kumasi Metropolis to the Atwima Kwanwoma District of the Ashanti Region. It is 33.3 kilometres long in a fair condition.
    Current Programme
    Routine maintenance works will be carried out on the road as part of the 2015 routine maintenance programme to keep it motorable throughout the year.
    Future Programme Engineering studies on the first 3.3
    kilometres section is completed and earmarked for upgrading to bituminous surface in 2015. Engineering studies will be carried out on the remaining section and the outcome of the studies will determine the appropriate intervention to be carried out in phases.
    Mr Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Supplementary questions.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister, in his response to the Question, characterises the road as a “fair conditioned road.” That is wonderful. Could a road full of pot holes be said to be in a fair conditioned road?
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the road is a 33.3kilometres road, and the “fair condition” is an average status of the road.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:05 p.m.
    What is “average status”?
    Mr Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Appiah-Kubi, your next supplementary question?
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the people of Atwima Kwanwoma and for that matter, the people of Ghana would like to know and the emphasis is on “when the routine maintenance would actually begin”. This is not the first time I am asking this Question about this road.
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the road maintenance programme would start very soon.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, “very soon” is always the answer that we receive. “Engineering studies would be conducted” is also another answer that we always receive.
    As I said, this is not the first time that I am enquiring about this road and each time, they would tell us they are doing this and that, but that never happens.
    Mr Speaker, unfortunately, part of the road which is in Kumasi, always get done. And that is the problem of my people. The remote areas are left and neglected,
    whereas the part in Kumasi is always done and routinely maintained. They keep on asking and getting worried whether they are Ghanaians; they pay their taxes. It is a rural area where food comes from and where agricultural activities take place. If we do not maintain the roads to those areas, I am afraid we are not doing ourselves any good.
    However, Mr Speaker, my question is, could the Hon Minister assure us and the people of the area when the engineering studies would be carried out? This time, the answer should not be “very soon.”
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, my answer clearly shows that there is progress. Engineering stages have been completed on the first 3.3 kilometres of the same 33.3kilometres road.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:05 p.m.
    The Kumasi one?
    Mr Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Member, you are out of order. You have asked a question and I have asked the Hon Minister to respond. You do not just have to get up to cut him.
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the road is a 33.3kilometre road. The engineering studies have been completed on 3.3 kilometres and this year, the 3.3 kilometres of that road would be upgraded to bituminous surfacing. We are saying that, we are going to do the remaining 30 kilometres in phases.
    This year, we would maintain the road, but do the engineering studies on the other potion of the road, and execute the contract in phases.
    I would want to assure the Hon Member's constituents that we would intervene at the time of their need and do the road for them.
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    Mr Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Member, you have exhausted your supplementary questions, -- [Interruption] -- But I will allow you.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:05 p.m.
    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker, my question was about the road beginning from Boko and ending at Nweneso III. I am not talking about the road beginning from Ohwimase. Does he get the difference? So, if he is talking about 3.3 kilometres which are being done, that excludes the road in question. He was not answering my question.
    Mr Speaker, even if the Hon Minister intends doing the other part of the road later, he said he would take appropriate measures. Do these appropriate measures include or mean tarring of the road? That was my question.
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, that is the ultimate, which is to tar the road from Ohwimase to Nweneso III.
    Mr Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Question numbered 219.
    Foase Town Linking Road (Tarring)
    Q.219. Dr Kojo Appiah-Kubi asked the Minister for Roads and Highways what plans the Ministry had towards tarring of the Foase town roads which linked the district capital with other parts of the district.
    Alhaji I. A.B. Fuseini 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    Background
    Foase is the district capital of the Atwima Kwanwoma District of the Ashanti Region. The town is located along the Ohwimase-Boko-Nweneso No.3 road. The main road within the town has a bituminous surface, which is in a poor condition.

    Current Programme

    Routine maintenance works will be carried out to protect the investment made.

    Future Programme

    Engineering studies will be undertaken before the end of 2015 to determine the appropriate intervention to be carried out on the road.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, Foase is the district capital and the roads in the town are characterised as in being in a poor condition.
    Mr Speaker, could the Hon Minister consider doing something for the people of Foase, since according to him, their roads are in a very poor condition?
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, we would consider doing something about it to protect the investment we have made so far on that road.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:05 p.m.
    When?
    Mr Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Member, your second supplementary question?
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, can he give us the assurance that this protection that he is talking about would begin very soon and that “very soon” would be “this year”.
    Alhaji I. A. B. Fuseini 12:15 p.m.
    Yes, Mr Speaker. We would endeavour to carry out the protection and remedial measures on that road within this year.
    Mr Speaker 12:15 p.m.
    Your third supplementary question.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I must be frank, with all due respect, the Hon Minister happens to be a good friend of mine but I am not happy with his Answers at all. This is because --
    Mr Speaker 12:15 p.m.
    Hon Member, you know that under the rules, you do not address the House upon a Question.
    Dr Appiah-Kubi 12:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, this is because I am not getting anything tangible out of the Question that I could transmit to my people. They have sent me here and I need to give them hope but with the responses that I am getting, I do not have any hope myself. I am disappointed.
    This is because, a district capital with very poor town roads cannot be left just like that and if the Hon Minister gives me vague Answers as to the programme for maintaining those town roads, then I am sorry; that is not sufficient.
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 12:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I appreciate and understand his emotional outburst because he is representing the people of the constituency, which includes Foase. But what I have said is that, it is also part of our remits to protect the investment that is going bad and this year, we would carry out routine maintenance on the Foase town roads. If that is not enough assurance, I do not know what he wants me to tell the people of Foase.
    Mr Speaker 12:15 p.m.
    Hon Members, that brings us to the end of Question time.
    Hon Minister, we thank you very much for attending upon this House to respond to Questions from Hon Members.
    Tongo-Yameriga-Duusi-Kolpeliga Roads (Tarring)
    Q.208. Mr Robert Nachinab Doameng Mosore: asked the Minister for Roads and Highways when the road from Tongo- Yameriga through to Duusi-Kolpeliga would be tarred.
    Alhaji I.A.B. Fuseini 12:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker,
    Background
    The road from Tongo-Yameriga through to Duusi Kolpeliga (33 km) is in the Talensi/Nabdam District of the Upper East Region. The entire section of the road is gravel surface in a fair condition.
    Current Programme
    Routine maintenance would be carried out as part of the 2015 Maintenance Programme to put it in a safe and motorable condition.
    Future Programme
    Engineering studies will be carried out in 2015 to determine the appropriate intervention to be undertaken.
  • [Printed Under Standing Order 65 (3)]
  • Mr Speaker 12:15 p.m.
    Hon First Deputy Speaker to take the Chair.
    Hon Members, today is World Water Day and I have admitted one Statement.
    The Hon Member for Shai-Osudoku, you have the floor.
    Is it today or Sunday?
    Mr Assumeng 12:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it is Sunday.
    STATEMENTS 12:15 p.m.

    Mr David Tetteh Assumeng (NDC -- Shai-Osudoku) 12:15 p.m.
    Thank you, Mr Speaker, for the opportunity.
    MR FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Hon Members, we will take two contributions from each side of the aisle.
    Mr Justice Joe Appiah (NPP -- Ablekuma North) 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, water is life and Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs also talks about water. Water is everything.
    The legendary Bob Marley once said, “In the abundance of water, the fool is thirsty”. This was said in a very nice song in his hay days.
    Mr Speaker, we have so many water bodies in this country, but we are thirsty. The Government is doing well, but it has a long way to go -- The Hon Minister for Water Resources, Water and Housing is looking at me.
    The Government is doing very well in terms of water, but that is not enough. The Government is trying its best -- but we also need to construct more boreholes in order to alleviate the plight of young men and women who have to walk several kilometres to look for water without success.
    We need good policies that can check the waste in the system in this country, especially, Ghana Water Company Limited.
    Mr Simon Edem Asimah (NDC -- South Dayi) 12:25 p.m.
    Thank you, Mr Speaker, for the opportunity to make a comment on the World Water Day. First, I congratulate the Hon Member who made the Statement.
    Mr Speaker, World Water Day is an important day which was declared by the United Nations some 22 years ago, to focus on the importance of fresh water in the development process.
    Mr Speaker, let us as Ghanaians rise up to protect our rivers. Let us rise up to protect our lakes, and let us also pledge to protect our forests, which actually protect the river bodies.
    Mr Speaker, the institutions in our country Ghana, especially those that are responsible for production, distribution and maintenance of our water systems have been doing their best. Nonetheless, the non-revenue water that is recorded by the Ghana Water Company Limited is an issue that needs to be looked at. Investment in the water sector is so huge that we cannot sit down to be experiencing non-revenue water of almost 50 per cent.
    Mr Speaker, in Ghana, the Community Water and Sanitation Agency is responsible for point sources and small town water systems. Nonetheless, the point sources continue to give us challenges, especially because it is in the hands of the community for management.
    It has been realised that, most of these point sources are not properly managed. The communities go for new schemes and a few years after, these systems break down.
    Mr Speaker, when you have access to water, it will actually lead to healthy living. It will reduce water-related diseases such as cholera. It is also observed that water generates electricity. In fact, globally, it is said that about 16 per cent of electricity is hydro-powered, and electricity when produced leads to rapid industrialisation.
    Recently, the drying up of the Volta River has led to load-shedding. It is therefore, very imperative for us, as a country, to protect our water bodies.
    Mr Speaker, water is also food. In fact, the experts say that 3,500 litres of water is needed to produce one kilogram of rice. Similarly, the experts also say that 15,000 litres of water is needed to produce one kilogram of beef. This actually tells us the importance of water.
    Mr Speaker, we all know that climate change is having a negative impact on fresh water bodies throughout the world, and Ghana is not excluded from this climate change. It is for this reason that the institutions, our chiefs and communities must wake up and begin to protect our forests to ensure the availability of water.
    Mr Speaker, before I take my seat, I would like to remind Ghanaians that water is health, water is nature, nature is urbanisation, water is industrialisation,
    water is energy, and above all, water is equality.
    Mr Frank Annoh-Dompreh (NPP-- Nsawam-Adoagyiri) 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, thank you for the kind opportunity.
    I would start by congratulating the Hon Member who first made the Statement, and to add a few suggestions thereof.
    There is a direct correlation between the supply of water and the protection of the environment. I would wish to suggest that we take giant steps towards strengthening our relevant State institutions which are so relevant in the protection of water bodies.
    First, the Forestry Commission. The reason the Forestry Commission is relevant is not far-fetched. This is because they are mandated to ensure that our trees and plantations are protected. Then, of course, we have a whole Ministry that is responsible for this area. I would like to urge the Hon Minister -- and I can see him smiling -- that a certain focus needs to be paid to water bodies in our country presently.
    Mr Speaker, it is sad to travel to the countryside nowadays. There is a certain attempt to destroy water bodies with impunity, and it is high time we brought a certain executive attention and made it a national crusade to protect our water bodies in this country. Therefore, I would hasten to suggest that we should not merely focus on making appeals.
    There should be a punitive measure meted out to people who flout the laws, so that invariably, we will be able to protect our water bodies.
    Again, Mr Speaker, we do not need to reinvent the wheel. There are relevant by- laws existing in our Ministries as well as Municipal and District Assemblies. We are not calling for new laws to be enacted. The laws that we have already enacted, let us make sure we enforce them. Let us enforce the existing relevant laws to the letter.
    Again, energy creation has something to do with this. Mr Speaker, the last time I visited my constituency, Nsawam- Adoagyiri, my constituents were lamen- ting that officials who are responsible for the distribution of water are unable to do it because the supply of energy, which is supposed to serve as the impetus to the supply of water has become a challenge.
    So, as we face energy challenges, let us also refocus and ask ourselves a few questions. Can we go solar to complement the provision of energy? I ask this because, if we are not able to distribute even the water produced, it will become a problem. As the saying goes, “Water is life.”
    Mr Speaker, indeed, I would want to see the relevant Ministry beginning to chart a new course and blazing a new trail to involve all Ghanaians to start protecting our water bodies.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Hon Members, for gender balance, I will ask the Hon Member for Pusiga to contribute.
    Ms Laadi Ayii Ayamba (NDC -- Pusiga) 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I rise to contribute to the Statement ably made by the Hon Member.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    It appears a lot of interest has been generated.
    Can we hear from the Hon Deputy Minister for Water Resources, Works and Housing?
    Deputym inister for Water Resources, Works and Housing (Mr Sampson Ahi) (MP): Thank you, Mr Speaker, for the opportunity to contribute to the Statement to celebrate World Water Day on the 22nd March, 2015.
    Mr Speaker, it has already been said that water is life. Water as a commodity has no alternative, and for that reason, issues of water must be taken serious.
    Mr Speaker, it is true that as a country, and as a people, our activities are destroying our water bodies. If we move round, we will realise that galamsey is destroying our water bodies, sandwining is destroying our water bodies and we can name them. But without water, we cannot live on this planet.
    Mr Speaker, in the Ministry of Water Resources, Works and Housing, we have an agency called Water Resource Commission, which is mandated to protect our water bodies. The idea is to grow the vegetative part of our water bodies, so that we can maintain the sanctity of our water.
    Mr Speaker, this Government -- because of the fact that we see water as a very important commodity -- has put in place structures, programmes and plans to address the water needs of Ghanaians.

    Mr Speaker, as we speak, we are able to produce over 150 million gallons a day to feed the people of Accra and Tema.

    Mr Speaker, I can go on. If you go to Kumasi, the Barekese water system used
    Mr K. T. Hammond 12:45 p.m.
    On a point of order.
    Mr Speaker, my understanding is that, some of these contributions should be such that they do not give cause for some of us to rise to our feet.
    The Hon Deputy Minister has just simply made an outrageous statement, which is very far from the truth. He is talking about Accra not complaining about deficit, but the surplus of water supply. Where did he get that statement from? I live just across the road, but I do not have water around my vicinity. Even in this area, there is no water; there is no water in Osu.
    Mr Speaker, he can talk about the achievement of the Government and how much they have provided so far, nobody has any qualms or quibble with that. But he should not make such outrageous statements that there is surplus of water in Accra; it is not fair.
    Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Ahi 12:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am talking about water production. I said that we used to produce 93 million gallons of water per day. The Weija Dam gives us 53 million gallons per day, whereas the Kpong water system was giving us 40 million gallons. Mr Speaker, as we speak, we have added an additional 40 million gallons of water per day. So, the Kpong water system is no longer giving 40 million, but 80 million gallons of water per day. [Interruptions.] -- I am talking about production.
    Mr Ahi 12:45 p.m.


    Mr Speaker, so, as we celebrate World Water Day, let me also encourage Ghanaians to embrace rain water harvesting, which is another major source for which we could add up to whatever quantity of water we have. There is a technology in place today. So, if we are building our houses, we could incorporate the rain harvesting concept, so that we can collect, keep and use the water for domestic purposes.

    Mr Speaker, I would end by saying that this Government is aware that water is life. And for that matter, under the leadership of His Excellency the President John Mahama, efforts would be made to ensure that we satisfy both rural and urban needs of our people, particularly in the next year.

    As we all saw, the President is also distributing water across the country without discrimination. And that explains why His Excellency the President himself was in Kibi last year to inaugurate the Kibi Water Project which was abandoned over 30 years ago. But today, as we speak, if you go to Kibi where Hon Atta Akyea comes from, you would testify that there is enough water in Kibi for the people --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Hon Member, please, do not make personal references.
    Mr Ahi 12:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Atta Akyea is my Friend and I know he and his people are also happy today.
    So, with this short intervention, I would want to thank you for the opportunity.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Hon Members, although interest has been so generated, unfortunately, time will not permit us to take any more.
    This brings us to the end of Statements for today.
    Hon Deputy Majority Chief Whip?
    Alhaji Mohammed-Mubarak Muntaka 12:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, we would go to items numbers 10 and 11 on the Order Paper.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Very well.
    Item number 10, which is a Motion by the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources.
    MOTIONS 12:45 p.m.

    Minister for Lands and Natural Resources (Nii Osah Mills) 12:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, that notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 80 (1), which require that no Motion shall be debated until at least, forty-eight hours have elapsed between the date on which notice of the Motion is given and the date on which the Motion is moved, the Motion for the Second Reading of the Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Bill, 2014 may be moved today.
    Chairman of the Committee (Mr Cletus A. Avoka) 12:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Members, this is a procedural Motion. It has been moved and seconded; I should only put the Question.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Resolved accordingly.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Item 11 on the Order Paper, which is a Motion by the Minister for Lands and Natural Resources.
    BILLS -- SECOND READING 12:45 p.m.

    Minister for Lands and Natural Resources (Nii Osah Mills) 12:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, that the Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Bill, 2014 be now read a Second time.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Thank you very much.
    Chairman of the Committee?
    Nii Osah Mills: Mr Speaker, the --
    Mr Frist Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Hon Minister, please, hold your breath. I thought the Hon Chairman of the Committee would read his Report.
    Mr Avoka 12:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the practice is that, when the Hon Minister moves the Motion, he will speak to it and indicate to the House the object and the principles of the amendment Bill, after which the Hon Chairman will then support him and then present the Committee's Report. That is the procedure; once the Hon Minister has moved, then he will talk to the principles and objects of the Bill.
    Mr Second Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Minister, are you minded to make some presentation with regard to the Motion?
    Nii Osah Mills: Yes, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker, the Bill seeks to address certain weaknesses in the Minerals and Mining Act, 2006, (Act 703). The Act does not adequately specify who collects royalties and when it is to be collected. The Bill, among others, seeks to remove this uncertainty in the subsequent Legislative Instrument (L.I.), which shall be developed and placed before the House to be passed.
    Mr Speaker, secondly, the Bill also provides sanctions and penalties for foreigners who flout the law by doing illegal mining in the country. The Bill will remove challenges that occur and which have kept occurring when it is sought to prosecute these foreigners once they are arrested. The Bill seeks to provide for the seizure of the equipment used and to seize the minerals which are mined as well.
    Mr Speaker, furthermore, the Bill provides for penalties for those who sell or buy minerals without having licence granted by section 6, 97 or 104 of Act 703, or without valid authority granted under the Act and any other enactment.
    Mr Speaker, the Bill also addresses the issue of Ghanaians who employ or engage foreigners to illegally engage in small scale mining, whereas the law provides that this should not be the case. Where a person is arrested for an offence under this section, any equipment used, as I have stated earlier, could be seized.
    Mr Speaker, in brief, these are some of the issues that the Bill seeks to address.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.
    Thank you very much.
    Hon Chairman of the Committee, could you present your Report?
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:45 p.m.


    Question Proposed.
    Chairman of the Committee (Mr Cletus A. Avoka) 12:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to support the Motion and in so doing, present the Committee's Report.
    Mr Speaker, I would want to observe that this is a very important Bill because at the end of the day, it would address the canker of illegal galamsey operations in many parts of the country.
    Introduction
    The Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Bill, 2014 was laid in Parliament on Wednesday, 12th November, 2014 by the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources, Nii Osah Mills in accordance with article 106 of the 1992 Constitution.
    The Bill was subsequently referred to the Select Committee on Mines and Energy by Mr Speaker for consideration and report in accordance with Orders 125 and 188 of the Standing Orders of the House.
    Deliberations
    The Select Committee met with the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources, Nii Osah Mills and officials of the Ministry to consider the Bill. Officials of the Minerals Commission and the Office of the Administrator of Stool Lands also attended the meeting to assist the Committee in its deliberations.
    Officials of the Ghana Chamber of Mines were in attendance at the instance of the Committee to provide clarification on issues raised in its Memorandum submitted to the Committee.
    As part of its deliberations, the Committee also considered memoranda received from key stakeholders including the National Security Council Secretariat, the National House of Chiefs, the Ghana
    Chamber of Mines, the University of Mines and Technology (UMaT) and the Office of the Administrator of Stool Lands.
    Reference documents
    The Committee made reference to the following documents during its delibera- tions:
    i. The 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Ghana
    ii. The Standing Orders of Parliament
    iii. The Minerals and Mining Act, 2006 (Act 703)
    iv. The Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Act, 2010 (Act
    794).
    Object of the Bill
    The object of the Bill is to amend the Minerals and Mining Act, 2006 (Act 703) to confer power on the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources to make Regulations to prescribe the rate and manner of royalty payments and to also provide for the confiscation of equipment used in illegal mining operations.
    Background Information
    The Minerals and Mining Act, 2006 (Act 703) and the Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Act, 2010 (Act 794) provide the legal framework for minerals and mining activities in the country.
    The implementation of the above laws has brought to the fore some challenges which require remedial action. For instance, Act 794, which fixes the royalty rate at five per cent (5%) does not prescribe the manner for the royalty payment. This has generated some misunderstanding regarding the time for
    payment and the agency responsible for the collection of the royalties.
    Additionally, the current legal regime does not provide specific measures to deal with the influx of foreigners in the small - scale mining sector, especially in the area of offences and confiscation of equipment used by illegal small scale miners. There is, therefore, the need to put in place a legislative framework to address the situation.
    The Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Bill, 2014 has therefore been laid in Parliament by the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources to help address the above issues.
    Summary of Provisions
    The Bill contains six (6) clauses. Clause 1 seeks to amend Act 794 to remove the fixed rate of royalty of five per cent and to provide for the rate of royalty and the manner of payment by way of Legislative Instrument.
    The Bill also seeks to amend the Act 703 to provide for the confiscation of equipment used in illegal small-scale mining and among other related matters under clause 2 to 5.
    Clause 6 relates to repeals and savings in respect of Act 794.
    Observations and Recommendations
    The Committee made the following observations and recommendations during its deliberations:
    Provisions relating to Mineral royalties
    The Committee observed that though the Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Act, 2010 (Act 794) fixes the mineral royalty rate at five per cent, the law does
    not prescribe the time for the payment of the royalties and the agency responsible for the collection of the royalties. The situation has led to some misunder- standing between revenue agencies and mineral right holders. The Bill, therefore, proposes to allow the Minister for Lands and Natural Resources to make Regulations to provide for the manner for the payment of the royalties under clauses 1 and 5 of the Bill.
    Additionally, the Bill also proposes that the sector Minister be allowed to change the royalty rate by way of Regulations. Officials of the Ministry of Lands and Natural Resources informed the Committee that the purpose of the provision is to give some flexibility in the fixing of the royalty rate to enable the Government change the rate to reflect the prevailing international prices of the minerals.
    The Committee, however, objected this proposal on the basis that such provision may introduce uncertainty in the minerals royalty regime which would deter investors from investing in the mining sector. The Committee was of the view that the law could be amended when the need arises to achieve the same effect.
    Measures to address influx of foreigners in the small-scale mining sector
    It was also noted that adequate provisions have been made in the Bill to curb the influx of foreigners in the small- scale mining sector. Officials of the Ministry of Lands and Natural Resources informed the Committee that there have been some challenges in the enforcement of the law to curb the incidence of foreigners engaging in small-scale mining since the law does not provide specific sanctions to deal with the issue.

    To address this gap, the Bill seeks to provide penalties to punish foreign nationals who engage in the illegal act. Upon the passage of the Bill into law, it will be an offence for foreign nationals to engage in small-scale mining activities in the country, and such offenders may be sentenced to twenty (20) years imprisonment in addition to imposition of fines. Besides, Ghanaians who engage foreigners to undertake small-scale mining will face similar sanctions.

    Confiscation of assets used in illegal mining operations

    The Committee further noted with satisfaction that the Bill makes provision for the confiscation of equipment used in small-scale mining as a way of supplementing efforts towards combating the illegal small -scale menace. Apart from the sanctions that may be imposed on persons engaged in illegal small-scale mining, equipment used in the illegal activity would be confiscated and ultimately forfeited to the State. Any mineral obtained from the illegal act would also be confiscated and may be forfeited to the State upon conviction.

    The Committee strongly believes that these measures would go a long way to discourage the practice and also to abate the devastating effects of illegal mining on the environment and pollution of water bodies.

    Proposed amendments

    The Committee made the following proposed amendments during its deliberations:

    i. Long Title -- Amendment proposed -- line 2, delete “rate and”.

    ii. Clause 1-- Amendment proposed -- line 8, insert “of five per cent” between “rate” and “and”.

    iii. Clause 2 -- Amendment proposed -- substitute for clause 2 of.

    “Offences and penalties

    99. (1) A person who sells or buys minerals without a license granted under this Act or any other enactment commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine of not less than five thousand penalty units and not more than twenty thousand penalty units or to a term of imprisonment of not less than three and not more than five years or to both

    (2) A person who,

    (a) without a licence granted by the Minister, undertakes a small scale mining operation contrary to the provision of this Act, or

    (b) contravenes a provision of this Act in respect of which a penalty has not been specified,

    commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine of not less than five thousand penalty units and not more than twenty thousand penalty units or to a term of imprisonment of not less than three years and not more than five years or to both.

    (3) A foreigner who contrary to the provisions of this Act undertakes small scale mining operations commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine

    of not less than thirty thousand penalty units and not more than three hundred thousand penalty units or to a term of imprisonment of not less than ten years and not more than twenty years or to both.

    (4) A Ghanaian who employs or engages a foreigner to undertake or participate in small-scale mining commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine of not less than five thousand penalty units and not more than twenty thousand penalty units or to a term of imprisonment of not less than three years and not more than five years or to both.

    (5) Where a person is arrested for an offence under subsection (3) or (4), any equipment used in or associated with the commission of the offence and any product derived from the commission of the offence shall, regardless of the ownership of the equipment or product, be seized and kept in the custody of the district police commander until the court determines the case.”

    iv. Clause 5-- Amendment proposed -- line 3, paragraph (v), delete “the rate for royalty and”.

    v. Clause 6 --Amendment proposed -- delete subclause (2).

    Conclusion

    The Committee has duly scrutinised the Bill and is of the view that the passage of the Bill subject to the proposed amendments would greatly assist in

    combating the menace of illegal small scale mining activities in the country.

    The Committee, therefore, recommends to the House to adopt its Report and pass the Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Bill, 2014 in accordance with article 106 of the Constitution.

    Respectfully submitted.
    Mr Samuel A. Akyea (NPP -- Abuakwa South) 12:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I do not believe that we should have myriads of the law and a multiplication of laws to bring sanity to bear on the problems that this Bill seeks to address. That is my humble view. This is because at the end of the day, we seem to be multiplying the laws of this country.
    I am a lawyer who does some criminal practice and we get very worried that people with impunity, whether they are foreigners or Ghanaians, would violate the laws of mining in this country. They destroy water bodies, as has already been said. They bring very huge gadgets and machines to disturb the water courses. They do that. These are not nocturnal activities for somebody to say that -- who owns the excavators? Serious earth moving equipment. What happens is that, it is the poor operator who is arrested and when he is arrested, some prosecution would start and it fizzles out.
    They will not want to arrest the one who is interested in the whole body of the galamsey activities. These excavators are not like mobile phones that one can pocket and walk away. So, if we do not arrest the main financiers but rather the hands -- the little boys who come around to get the gold out of the ground, then we are just touching the surface of the problem.
    Mr Samuel A. Akyea (NPP -- Abuakwa South) 12:55 p.m.


    That is my humble view. When you touch the surface of a problem, you have done nothing. Therefore, if we would not want to apply the law, those who have the powers of arrest would not go and find the big men behind the galamsey activities -- I am afraid we can bring this Bill and that Bill and yet another Bill, we would want to flush out foreigners and all that we want to say; insofar as the main financiers are not dealt with, it becomes a monumental joke.

    It is not multiplication of laws which would bring sanity in any nation; it is rather the serious application of the law to go for those who matter. This is because we are enjoying some impunity in this country in which we arrest small boys, give them bail while the one who is investing in this monumental project is relaxing somewhere.

    Mr Speaker, I would want this House to know and it is very important to my heart that we are encouraging plain illegality in this country and this House should not be disturbed with yet another law to nib in the bud this galamsey activities whether it is from foreigners or Ghanaians.

    I am grateful, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Benito Owusu-Bio (NPP -- Atwima-Nwabiagya North) 1:05 p.m.
    Thank you, Mr Speaker, for allowing me to contribute in support of the Bill on the floor.
    Mr Speaker, in supporting this Bill, there is one thing that I would want this House to consider. That is an immediate realignment or maybe, an amendment to our Standing Orders, to reflect on the mandate of the Ministry of Lands and
    Natural Resources and that of the Select Committee on Lands and Forestry.
    I am saying this because, Mr Speaker, in considering this Bill, your Committee on Lands and Forestry was never considered. We were left out totally; we were in the dark. We were never even consulted, Mr Speaker. It was handled by the Committee on Mines and Energy.
    Mr Speaker, where do we mine? We mine on the land. We do not mine in space or in the air. We mine on the land. After mining, what happens to the land? There is degradation and most often, forest degradation. A wrong has been done Mr Speaker, and it can only be corrected if our Committee is made to handle the mining sector as well.
    Mr Speaker, even during the consideration of the budget estimates for the Ministry, the Select Committee on Lands and Forestry actually laid that Report on the floor without any contribution from the mining sector. But when it came to considering this Bill, we were left in the dark.
    Mr Speaker, a wrong has been done but it can be corrected in the future.
    With these few words, I will end by supporting the Bill.
    Minister for Local Government and Rural Development (Alhaji Collins Dauda)(MP) 1:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I rise to support this Bill and in doing so, I would want to make a few comments.
    Mr Speaker, it is important that from time to time, we strengthen our laws to deal with particular circumstances. This particular law is being worked on, so that it can address a challenge confronting all of us as a country, and that is the involvement of foreigners in the small- scale mining sector of the country.
    Mr Speaker, it is in this regard that I support the promulgation of this law. As has already been indicated by Hon Atta Akyea, we cannot rely only on the law to solve a problem, particularly galamsey problems and the involvement of foreigners in small scale mining.
    Mr Speaker, I personally have had the opportunity of going round these mining areas when I had the privilege of serving this country as the Hon Minister for Lands and Natural Resources. I had the opportunity of going to Asikam near Kyebi where I had the shock of my life.
    Mr Speaker, the Birim River, which is cherished by the people of Kyebi was diverted. The river course itself was diverted from left to right and the river bed itself, mined by illegal miners.
    Mr Speaker, the people who do these things are people who live in Asikam and Kyebi; they live in homes. They are never exposed. Mr Speaker, it becomes very difficult even dealing with such characters.
    These foreigners we are talking about come in here, they do not live in space; they live in our homes and undertake these illegal activities. Nobody reports them. It is only when the Ministry, for example, the Ministry of Lands and Natural Resources organises a swoop, then we can get these people arrested.
    Mr Speaker, importantly, even when the arrest is made, it does not resolve the matter. We proceed to court and that is where, in my opinion, the problem is. If punitive measures are not given to people who indulge in illegality, we endorse it.
    Mr Speaker, somebody goes to another's farmland with heavy equipment and engages in illegal mining. He is
    arrested, sent to the court and the punishment that the court would give rather serves as an incentive for him to do more. I thought that the courts are supposed to give orders that would serve as disincentive for anybody who indulges in illegality. That is not the case sometimes.
    Mr Speaker, beyond passing the law, which I agree is to strengthen the legal regime, we need to take a step by undertaking periodic sensitisation with the Judiciary. Let them appreciate the issues.
    If you are a Judge, you will want water, you will want food to eat. If the land is destroyed, you will not get food. If water bodies get destroyed, we will not get water to drink. If they appreciate this, I guess, the punishment that they will give in the court will be punitive to serve as deterrent to others who will do it.
    Mr Speaker, on this note, I support the Motion because, I read the memorandum which satisfies article 106. It states clearly the objects, and it also identifies the weakness of the law and also proposes measures to deal with the weaknesses.
    On that note, Mr Speaker, I thank you very much. I support this Bill with all my weight.
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    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:05 p.m.
    Thank you very much.
    I have seen quite a number of Hon Members up.
    I will want us to avoid the issue that Hon Benito Owusu-Bio raised. That is settled. So, let us move on.
    Mr Joseph Osei-Owusu (NPP -- Bekwai) 1:05 p.m.
    Thank you very much, Mr Speaker, for the opportunity.
    Mr Joseph Osei-Owusu (NPP -- Bekwai) 1:15 p.m.


    Mr Speaker, my constituency is one of the victims of the illegal and small-scale mining activities. When those activities started, the communities were up in arms. They challenged the illegal and small-scale miners. But after a time, they came to a conclusion that “big men” were behind the activities.

    They came to the conclusion that politicians and their agents were the ones operating and therefore, they had no chance of winning against them. That is when they gave up the fight. I am referring specifically to the statement made by Hon Collins Dauda, that indeed, the reason we are losing the fight now is that, we are giving the local people the impression that we have power; we have supported those who are operating. They come and brand the names of “big men”.

    Mr Speaker, I have a particular case where I was recalled from Accra in an emergency to one of my communities. The Omanhene himself had called. He was visibly angry. But the supposed Alhaji, who was in charge, had taken the concession rightly or wrongly and had given them out to the Chinese operators. The Chinese would not mind you. If you call them, they refer you to the said Alhaji. When the Alhaji comes, he mentions “big names” and he would not cooperate with you.

    The municipal authority specifically set up a task force and sent the police there. They arrested the people and seized their equipment. On their way back, according to them, they received instructions from high up to let the matter die and they left the matter.

    This is in the report of the District Assembly because it was the District Assembly that sent them, so, they had to come and report officially.

    Now, with that background, the people then said, “we think there is no point in fighting”. So, they would rather join in. Now, they are no longer reporting; they would rather sit to take whatever benefit there is.

    The end result is that, there is extreme pressure on, particularly Hon Members of Parliament to provide water -- “give us borehole here and there.” Those who are actually benefitting are not the ones providing the boreholes. They go and make big promises to them. When you see some of the agreements that I saw recently, they say, community social responsibility, they will give you GH¢ 5,000.00 and the people are happy. I asked what would GH¢5,000.00 do for them.

    Alhaji Mohammed-Mubarak Muntaka - - rose --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Majority Chief Whip, are you up on a point of order?
    Alhaji Muntaka 1:15 p.m.
    On a point of order.
    Mr Speaker, I was enjoying what my Hon Colleague was saying until he said that, we were not implementing the laws.
    He knows very well that we are not in charge of implementation. We are supposed to report and probably, even ask parliamen-tary Questions and drag persons who are supposed to be in charge to come and answer. We are not to lament.
    I would want to encourage my Hon Colleague, that in the case of the community that he is talking of, where people's names are being mentioned -- higher up, we need to bring in the relevant Hon Ministers in to answer, and if we do not get the right Answers, we can then go back and talk the way my Hon Colleague is lamenting.
    It is a very worrying situation to all of us, but I think that we must be bold. This is because he can attest to the fact that, sometimes, people use his name wrongly in the constituency to do one or two things but we must constantly, as the representatives of the people, insist that those in charge -- the police, and the courts are to do the implementation.
    I would rather say that instead of putting the blame on ourselves, that we the politicians are not implementing the laws, where we are not the implementing agencies, let us focus on those agencies which are supposed to implement the laws. If they fail, we should know what to do, using the available opportunities in this House to get them to come and answer.
    I think that my Hon Colleague should stop misleading the House by saying that we are not implementing: we are not supposed to be the implementers. We are lawmakers and we must make sure that laws are implemented.
    Thank you Mr Speaker.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Dr Anane?
    Dr Richard W. Anane 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, if the Hon Muntaka wants to make his submission, he is free to do so.
    Mr Speaker, in the statement by Hon Osei-Owusu, he was referring to “we” as politicians and went specifically to talk about the Executive.
    When it comes to implementation, it is from the Executive. But when he used the word, “we” and Hon Muntaka took it upon himself, it is as if he is talking about the Legislature. We do know the functions of the branches of Government and Hon Muntaka must appreciate that the use of the word “we” was not --
    Hon Muntaka must appreciate that if he wants to make his submission, he is right to do so, but he must also leave Hon Osei-Owusu to continue with his.
    Thank you.
    Mr Osei-Owusu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I still insist that the Executive is made up of politicians. So, when I say that “we politicians”, I mean the Executive, the arm of Government that has the responsibility to ensure that the Acts that this House passes are implemented.
    Mr Speaker, I strive on matters like this to appear non-partisan and that is why I generalised it. This is because, today, those in the Majority are also in charge of the Executive; tomorrow, it may turn and the responsibility would be the same; it would still be on us. I still insist that the buck stops with the politician.
    Those of us who have the political power to even lead the Executive agencies, the implementing agencies should take responsibility and make sure that people perform. Other than that, we can say the police works under the Ministry of the Interior; we can say the courts, they are supposed to be independent but if we present cases that are supported by law, they will give judgement in accordance with that.
    Mr Speaker, I am worried about just adding on to laws, like my Hon Colleague Atta Akyea said -- “a myriad of laws”. Many of them are observed more in their breach. There are so many of them. I wonder whether the Environmental Protection Agency is still operating in this country. In respect of this matter, they

    have so much responsibility under the laws already existing.

    But I travelled round my constituency to my neighbouring constituency, Odotobri and it is pathetic. Almost every river body -- the Committee on Roads and Transport went to Dunkwa on road inspection and we saw River Offin, Mr Speaker, you will cry.

    Mining equipment are on the river and they are mining the river bed. As soon as they saw the bus, they dived into the water. We went ahead and tried to get them. We spoke to them and they said that was the situation. Nobody could use the water for anything. It is as muddy as any muddy water one could see. It is serious.

    When I was a young man, my father used to have a timber firm in the area. So, I knew the river very well and knew how it was. Now, I am an old man and I cannot see the river bed because we have allowed the river bed to be mined.
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    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Asiamah, are you talking about the age.
    Mr I. K. Asiamah 1:15 p.m.
    Yes, Mr Speaker.
    I do not think my Hon Colleague is an old man.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    It is a state of mind.
    Mr I. K. Asiamah 1:15 p.m.
    He is a handsome young man. So, he should admit it.
    Mr Osei-Owusu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I have seen quite some years. So, I consider myself an elderly man. [Laughter] -- The Hon Minister will know me when I was a young man. I was very proactive at the Bar. Now, I am an old man, and so, things have subsided a bit. [Interruption.]
    He was always my senior. That is why he is where he is today, bringing his expertise and experience to serve the country. Indeed, that is why I am confident to speak like this because I know him as a “Bar person” and a practitioner. I am confident if he puts his mind to it and we do not take political decisions, we could easily deal with this problem.
    Mr Speaker, my final word is that, it is our responsibility and duty and I am very confident we could deal with all these matters with the existing laws. It would cost us nothing to add this, but it is not sufficient to add to the laws. We need to implement them, if we are going to save our river bodies and save some lives.
    What we have not observed, which I could talk about in my area, is that they are selling the cocoa farms. They make them an offer GH¢20,000.00 and they sell them. Sometimes, they do not even pay them. They give them a small deposit; they would destroy the cocoa and disappear and the farmers would be running to me. I said, “hey!” The time you needed me was before you entered the agreement; it is too late now.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Thank you very much.
    Hon Members, I think that it is clear that Hon Members are very much concerned about the state of affairs, and I am glad the Hon Minister is here and getting the sense of the House. We could go on and on.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:15 p.m.


    Question put and Motion agreed to.

    The Minerals and Mining (Amendment) Bill, 2014 was accordingly read a Second time.
    Mr First Depuy Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Majority Chief Whip?
    Alhaji Muntaka 1:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, we would be grateful if we could move to items numbered 18, 19 and 20.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
    Please, go over the numbers again.
    Alhaji Muntaka 1:25 p.m.
    Items numbered 18, 19 and 20.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
    Very well.
    Alhaji Muntaka 1:25 p.m.
    I know you should start with the Chairman but Mr Speaker, I would want to, in advance, seek your permission and the indulgence of the House for the Hon Deputy Minister for Power to stand in for the Minister for Power.
    Thank you.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
    Very well.
    Item numbered 18 -- Chairman of the Committee?
    MOTIONS 1:25 p.m.

    Chairman of the Committee (Mr Cletus Apul Avoka) 1:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, that notwithstanding the provisions
    of Standing Order 80(1) which require that no Motion shall be debated until at least, forty-eight hours have elapsed between the date on which notice of the Motion is given and the date on which the Motion is moved, the Motion for the adoption of the Report of the Committee on Mines and Energy on the Build, Own, Operate and Transfer Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and Africa and Middle East Resources Investment Group Llc (Ameri Energy) for the installation of ten (10) GE TM 2,500+ aero derivative gas turbines, operate, maintain, transfer and provision of support services may be moved today.
    Mr K. T. Hammond 1:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
    Hon Members, this is procedural. I will put the Question.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Resolved accordingly.
    Transfer Agreement between Government of Ghana/Africa and
    Middle East Resources Investment Llc
    Chairman of the Committee (Mr Cletus Avoka) 1:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, that this Honourable House adopts the Report of the Committee on Mines and Energy on the Build, Own, Operate and Transfer Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and Africa and Middle East Resources Investment Group Llc (Ameri Energy) for the installation of ten (10) GE TM 2500+ aero derivative gas turbines, operate, maintain, transfer and provision of support services.
    Mr Speaker, in so doing, I wish to present the Committee's Report to the august House.
    Chairman of the Committee (Mr Cletus Avoka) 1:25 p.m.


    SPACE FOR APPROVED TARIFFS - PAGE 9 - 1.25P.M.
    Mr K.T. Hammond (NPP -- Adansi Asokwa) 1:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion.
    In doing so, I simply adopt quite a lot of what the acting Chairman has said and indeed, the entire gamut of what the Report has stated.
    Mr Speaker, it is just also to make this point. There has been some suggestions that the equipment in question is actually a second rate equipment. We sought assurances from the Hon Minister for Power and that the nation was not putting all this money in this venture for us to receive a second rate equipment. The Hon Minister was categorical that this is first
    rate brand new equipment and indeed, was quite happy that at the time of inspection, we can have some people to go and have a look at it and satisfy ourselves if this was the case. This is important because there has been a sort of talk and that this equipment is not really a brand new one. I thought this should be brought to the attention of the House.
    Mr Speaker, I think quite a lot has already been said by the Chairman and I do not intend to belabour the point.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
    Very well.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
    Item numbered 20, Resolution.
    RESOLUTIONS 1:25 p.m.

    Minister for Power) 1:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move,
    WHEREAS by the provisions of article 181(5) of the Constitution the terms and conditions of any international business or economic transaction to which the Govern- ment of Ghana is a party shall not come into operation unless the said terms and conditions have been laid before Parliament and approved by Parliament by a Resolution supported by the votes of a majority of all Members of Parliament;
    PURSUANT to the provisions of the said article 181(5) of the Constitution and at the request of the Government of Ghana acting

    through the Minister responsible for Finance, there has been laid before Parliament the terms and conditions of a Build, Own, Operate and Transfer Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and Africa and Middle East Resources Investment Group Llc (Ameri Energy) for the installation of ten (10) GE TM 2,500+ aero derivative gas turbines, operate, maintain, transfer and provision of support services.
    THIS HONOURABLE HOUSE 1:25 p.m.

    Mr Avoka 1:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
    Hon Members, this is procedural.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Resolved accordingly.
    Alhaji Muntaka 1:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, we kindly want to crave your indulgence and that of the House for the Hon Deputy Minister for Environment, Science, Technology and Innovation to withdraw a Paper that was presented to the House on the 17th of February, 2015.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:25 p.m.
    Very well.
    MOTIONS 1:35 p.m.

    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Hon Members, leave is granted and accordingly, the referral made to the relevant Committee of this House is also a withdrawn.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Member what are you up on?
    Mr Alexander K. Afenyo-Markin 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I wanted some clarification on the application. This is because, she is rooting the application for leave on certain technicalities, that they need to clarify some issues. We need to know what aspect of it they are seeking to amend. It is very important --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Hon Member, first of all, you are out of order.
    Secondly, when they come back and present the new Paper, it would be referred to the Committee again and at the Committee level, you can raise your issues.
    Mr Afenyo-Markin 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I take a cue, and I am grateful.
    Alhaji Muntaka 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, there was a Motion to be moved by the Hon Minister for Finance. They are at a Committee meeting and I am told this is needed before Monday. I have sent for the Hon Minister to join us and Mr Speaker, if you could indulge us for just five minutes.

    Mr Speaker, because the debate on this particular Motion had already been done already and left with the Resolution, I would want to crave your indulgence and that of the House for the Hon Deputy Minister for Power to do this on behalf of the Hon Minister for Finance. That is item numbered 15 --

    Mr Speaker, he has just walked in.

    Thank you very much, we are very grateful.

    Mr Speaker, item numbered 15. But I would crave your indulgence for the Hon Deputy Minister for Finance to do this on behalf of the Hon Minister for Finance.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Dr Anane?
    Dr Anane 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, agreed.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Deputy Minister, on behalf of the Hon Minister for Finance, item numbered 15, on the Order Paper.
    RESOLUTIONS 1:35 p.m.

    THIS HONOURABLE HOUSE 1:35 p.m.

    Alhaji Muntaka 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Resolved accordingly.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Majority Chief Whip. I believe we move to item numbered 16.
    Hon Deputy Finance Minister?
    GoG/Korean Government Concessional Loan Facility
    Deputy Minister for Finance (Mr Cassiel Ato Baah Forson)(on behalf of the Minister for Finance): Mr Speaker, I beg to move, that
    WHEREAS by the provisions of article 181 of the Constitution and sections 3 and 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335), the terms and conditions of any loan raised by the Government of the Republic of Ghana on behalf of itself or any public institution or authority shall not come into operation unless the said terms and conditions have been laid before Parliament and approved by a Resolution of Parliament;
    PURSUANT to the provisions of the said article 181 of the Constitution and sections 3 and 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335), at the request of the Government of the Republic Ghana acting through
    the Minister responsible for Finance, there has been laid before Parliament the terms and conditions of a Concessional Loan Facility between the Government of Ghana and the Government of the Republic of Korea acting through the Export- Import Bank of Korea for an amount of US$67,234,000.00 for the Implementation of Prestea - Kumasi Power Enhancement Project.
    IN ACCORDANCE with the provisions of the said article 181 of the Constitution and sections 3 and 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335) this House approves the Concessional Loan Facility between the Government of Ghana and the Government of the Republic of Korea acting through the Export-Import Bank of Korea for an amount of US$67,234,000.00 for the Implementation of Prestea - Kumasi Power Enhancement Project.
    Dr A. A. Osei 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Deputy Minister told me the debate was not going on and then he told me to come after he had finished. That is why I rushed here.
    In any case, I beg to second the Motion.
    He kept me there for the one I had wanted to partake in.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Members, I will put the Question.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Resolved accordingly.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Majority Chief Whip?
    Alhaji Muntaka 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, item numbered 17, another Resolution.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 1:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Deputy Minister for Finance.
    On-lending Agreement between GoG and GRIDCo
    Deputy Minister for Finance (Mr Cassiel Ato Forson Baah Forson)(on behalf of the Minister for Finance): Mr Speaker, I beg to move, that
    WHEREAS by the provisions of article 181 of the Constitution and Sections 3 and 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335), the terms and conditions of any loan raised by the Government of the Republic of Ghana on behalf of itself or any public institution or authority shall not come into operation unless the said terms and conditions have been laid before Parliament and approved by a Resolution of Parliament;
    PURSUANT to the provisions of the said article 181 of the Constitution and sections 3 and 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335), at the request of the Government of the Republic Ghana acting through the Minister responsible for Finance, there has been laid before Parliament the terms and conditions of the On-lending Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and Ghana Grid Company (GRIDCo) for the Ghana Cedi equivalent of sixty-seven million, two hundred and thirty-four thousand, United States dollars (US$67,234,000.00) for the Implementation of Prestea-Kumasi Power Enhancement Project.
    IN ACCORDANCE with the provisions of the said article 181 of the Constitution and sections 3 and 7 of the Loans Act, 1970 (Act 335), this House approves the On- Lending Agreement between the Government of the Republic of Ghana and Ghana Grid Company (GRIDCo) for the Ghana Cedi equivalent of sixty-seven million, two hundred and thir ty-four thousand, United States dollars (US$67,234,000.00) for the Imple- mentation of Prestea - Kumasi Power Enhancement Project.
    Dr A. A. Osei 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Resolved accordingly.
    Alhaji Mohammed-Mubarak Muntaka 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would want to take the opportunity to thank you and all Hon Members, for the endurance.
    Mr Speaker, because there are Committee meetings, I beg to move, that this House be adjourned till Tuesday, 24th March, 2014 at 10.00 o'clock in the forenoon.
    Thank you.
    Dr Richard W. Anane 1:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to second the Motion moved by the Hon Majority Chief Whip.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    ADJOURNMENT 1:35 p.m.

  • The House was accordingly adjourned at 1:42 p.m. till Tuesday, 24th March, 2015 at 10.00 a.m.