Debates of 31 Oct 2019

MR SPEAKER
PRAYERS 10:47 a.m.

VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS AND THE OFFICIAL REPORT 10:47 a.m.

Mr Speaker 10:47 a.m.
Hon Members, Correction of Votes and Proceeding of 30 th October, 2019. Any Corrections?
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Mr Speaker 10:47 a.m.
Yes, Hon Okudzeto Ablakwa?
Mr Ablakwa 10:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, page 9, item numbered 9, last but one line, delete “the” because it changes the entire meaning of the construction. It should read “… rebrand and reform football for the benefit of all.” instead of “rebrand and reform the football for the benefit of all.” So the first “the” should be deleted.
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Mr Speaker 10:47 a.m.
Yes, Hon Member for Adaklu?
Mr Agbodza 10:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, thank you for the opportunity.
Yesterday, I and the Hon Chairman of the Committee I belong to, Mr Ayeh-Paye were here till about 11.00 a.m., and the Hon Minister for Roads and Highways invited us to join him on an inspection. So indeed, we were present.
Mr Speaker 10:47 a.m.
Thank you very much.
Mr Ebenezer O. Terlabi -- rose
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Mr Terlabi 10:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I was here yesterday, but I do not know who I sought the permission from to absent myself, to be captured as absent with permission; I did not ask for permission to go anywhere.
Mr Speaker 10:47 a.m.
It is noted.
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Hon Members, the Votes and Proceedings of 30th October, 2019 as corrected is hereby adopted as the true record of proceedings.
Hon Members, we also have an Official Report dated Thursday, 18th July, 2019 for correction.
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Mr Speaker 10:47 a.m.
Hon Okudzeto Ablakwa?
Mr Ablakwa 10:47 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I am most grateful. Column 4099, the first paragraph under the Statement by the Hon Minister for Tourism, Arts and Culture, the word “fledgling” is spelt wrongly. “Fledgling” is the word instead of “fledging” as has been written there. So an “l” is missing.
Mr Speaker 10:47 a.m.
Hon Members, in the absence of any further correction, the Official Report of Thursday, 18th July, 2019 as corrected is hereby admitted as the true record of proceedings.
Hon Members, item numbered 3 -- Questions.
Question numbered 631.
Hon Member for Gar?
ORAL ANS+WERS TO
QUESTIONS 10:47 a.m.

MINISTRY OF SPECIAL 10:47 a.m.

DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES 10:47 a.m.

Minister for Special Development Initiatives (Mrs Mavis Hawa Koomson) (MP) 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, before I answer the Question, I would want to correct the Hon Member that the construction of the dams were started in 2018 and not in 2017.
Mr Speaker, the Ministry is constructing Small Earth Dams, under the One Village One Dam initiative. This is ideal for villages and communities in the five Northern Regions.
Mr Speaker, in 2018, the Ministry, in collaboration with Ghana Irrigation Development Authority, the Northern Development Authority and Metropolitan, Municipal and District Assemblies in the Northern Regions
Mr Alalzuuga 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, from the Answer provided by the Hon Minister, she talked about Small Earth Dams. We were told that the dams would provide an all year round irrigation. I would want to find out from the Hon Minister whether the Small Earth Dams she talked about can provide an all-year-round irrigation.
Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
Hon Member, your own Question says, you only want to know about cost per dam. So, let us talk about matters of cost. If you want to go into the dynamics of cost, let us go to that. But do not deviate from your own pathway. Please ask more questions on cost; I have looked at your Question carefully.
Mr Alalzuuga 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, thank you for the correction.
From the Answer the Hon Minister provided, she mentioned average, but my Question was on cost per dam. Could I know from the Hon Minister, on the average, the highest and lowest costs which has given us the average?
Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
Yes, Hon Minister, we want you to give us a little categorisation. At the lowest end, we have so much and in the middle belt we have so much, in the upper crust - It is all part of the Question on cost.
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Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
Hon Minister should answer the question. Hon Minister, please forget about the technicalities and tell me about your cost structure.
Mrs Koomson 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, as I mentioned earlier, the cost is averagely GH¢250,000.00; it varies. It ranges between GH¢230,000.00 and GH¢250,000.00; the highest is GH¢250,000.00 and the lowest is GH¢230,000.00. [Interruption]
Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
The Hon Minister has given us the range.
Mr Alalzuuga 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, with all due respect, I think that if you do an average from GH¢230,000.00 to GH¢250,000.00, you do not get GH¢250,000.00 [Laughter]
Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
Hon Member, it all depends on the coefficients between the highest and the lowest. You are not part of that one. So, just go on.
Mr Alalzuuga 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, may I know from the Hon Minister how many of the dams are constructed so far and how many are yet to be constructed?
Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
Hon Minister, can you gratuitously tell him - actually, this is not part of your mandate.
Mrs Koomson 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, as we speak, we are constructing over 300 dams which are at various stages of completion.
Mr Alalzuuga 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, it means the Hon Minister is not sure of the number of dams under construction.
Mr Speaker, may I know from the Hon Minister whether she has had the opportunity to visit the sites of any of these dams under construction in any of the northern regions, and to see for herself the quality or type of dams that are being constructed?
Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
Hon Minister, site inspection.
Mrs Koomson 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I have had the opportunity to visit some
of these dams even in his constituency. I have also been to two other sites which are about 60 to 70 per cent complete.
Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
Thank you very much. Hon Member, I am sure you met the Hon Minister in your constituency and you had a good chat. [Laughter]
Alhaji Muntaka 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, from the Hon Minister's Answer, the Ministry is constructing small earth dams and the objective is to enable the villages have all-year-round farming. Are these small dams capable of providing enough water for the all- year-round cultivation of crops?
Mr Speaker 10:57 a.m.
Hon Member, no one can guarantee an all-year-round supply of water from a dam. It all depends on the ecology and other factors. So please, it would help provide water, but it would not guarantee anything. We all know that one; it is as simple as that.
Alhaji Muntaka 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the objective of the dams is to facilitate that. I have three (3) of such dams in my farm, and they are able to provide water for my activities throughout the year.
Mr Speaker, I would want to find out the sizes because she said they are in different sizes. Are the sizes of the dams capable of providing --

different question, but you introduced the word ‘guarantee'. That was why I took you on. If you want to amend your word, you can do so. Nobody sets out to guarantee anything; we get out to go and help.
Alhaji Muntaka 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I would want to find out, all things being equal and with very good rains, if the dams under construction collect water to full capacity, would that be sufficient to provide the villages with enough water to water their crops all year round?
Mrs Koomson 10:57 a.m.
Mr Speaker, yes. When we say, farming, we do not mean growing of crops only; animal rearing is also farming. The animals can also use the water. [Hear! Hear!]
Mr Ablakwa 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, from the Hon Minister's response, she indicated that on the average, the cost per dam is GH¢250, 000, and 560 sites have been identified. So, that gives us on the average, about GH¢140 million.
Mr Speaker, is the Hon Minister able to confirm if she indeed has that allocation from the Ministry of Finance to carry out these 560 dams, which gives us an average of GH¢140 million?
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Member, please ask your question again.
Are you talking about the mathematics of it, in terms of the average?
Mr Ablakwa 11:07 a.m.
Yes, Mr Speaker.
It would be so if we multiply GH¢250,000 by the 560 sites.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
If you do not have an itemised detail of all the con- structions and all their costs, how could you then do a simple multiplication to arrive at an average?
Hon Member, if you would want to ask a question on that, then you should please file it as a substantive Question.
Mr Annoh-Dompreh 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, with your permission, I would reference the second paragraph of the Hon Minister's Answer. It says: “… a total of 560 sites for the construction of Small Earth Dams…” This means that each constituency in the northern part of the country have been allocated a total of ten Small Earth Dams.
I, however, heard the Hon Minister say that about 300 dams have already been constructed, or
they are in the process of being constructed. Mr Speaker, I wish to know the situation that was inherited by the Hon Minister, in terms of the situation of the dams. [Interruptions] --
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Yes, Hon Minister?
Why are some Hon Members worried about the question? The Hon Minister should be allowed to answer the question.
Mrs Koomson 11:07 a.m.
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker, I inherited zero dams. [Interruptions] --
There were no dams in the constituencies that is why we are currently constructing some for — [Interruptions] --
Mr Ntim 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister indicated that so far, 300 dams are under construction.
I would want to find out whether the figure includes the construction of that of the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development, through the Ghana Safety Net.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Member, the Hon Minister has a schedule. I would therefore not want us to worry about
what the Ministry of Local Government and Rural Development is doing. You could address this question to the Hon Minister in charge of this Ministry.
Hon Members, the last question.
Mr Edward K. Dery 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister in an answer to one of the questions asked of her, which is on record, provided that she inherited zero dams.
Mr Speaker, I am from the northern part of this country, Lambussie for that matter. I can tell you that under the National Democratic Congress (NDC) Government, seven dams were constructed in my constituency, and they are working today.
Mr Speaker, we talked about average and cost this morning. Funny enough, in Lambussie --
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Member, you are making a speech.
Mr Edward K. Dery 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I would want to find out from the Hon Minister, what are the specific features of these dams, if we are talking about average and cost, with the highest cost being
GH¢250,000?
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Member, did you say you would want to know the ‘future' of certain dams?

Speaker, I said the ‘features' or the characteristics of such dams.

The Hon Minister cannot just inform us that the cost ranges from GH¢230,000 without letting us know the features that made it so. She should give us the specifications.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Members, Order!
Hon Member, you should please make yourself clear.
What is your question?
Mr Edward K. Dery 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, my simple question is that, we would want to know the specifications of those dams.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Member, you and who would want to know? You should speak for yourself.
Mr Edward K. Dery 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, in simple terms, we would just want to know -
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Member, you personally as an Hon Member of Parliament would want to know of it. It is not a collective matter. This does not have to do with one Side against the other. You would want to know, so you should say so. That is the way it is done in Parliamentary language.
Mr Edward K. Dery 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, exactly so.
I would want to know from the Hon Minister, specifically, the features involved in constructing the so-called Small Earth Dams that cost
GH¢250,000.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Member, did you say the figures involved in that?
Mr Edward K.Dery 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I mentioned it several times. I said the specifications. If my use of the word ‘features' was the case, I substitute it with the word ‘specifications'.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
All right! Hon Member, you meant to say ‘features'.
Mr Edward K. Dery 11:07 a.m.
Yes, Mr Speaker, it is the word ‘features.'
Therefore, I asked the Hon Minister of the features or specifications involved in the construction of the Small Earth Dams that cost GH¢250,000.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
It would be very useful to know that the Question talks about cost and not configurations and features. This is because these are matters of detail. They are architectural, technical, mechanical and engineering.
Hon Member, you should therefore file a Question to that effect, which the Hon Minister could Answer at the appropriate time in an appropriate manner. For the Hon Minister to be brought here to Answer a Question on the cost of the Dams, only for you to seek to know its features out of order.
Hon Member, if you want to know that, then you should please file a Question to that effect; so that she could give you all the architectural details and the costings, which are the work of experts.
Hon Minister, we thank you very much for coming to the House to answer our Questions.
You are discharged.
Hon Members, we would move on to Question 633, by the Hon Minister for Energy.
Hon Members, is the Hon Minister in the House?
Mr Nyindam 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, with your indulgence, the Hon Deputy Minister is the one here to answer the Question on behalf of the Hon Minister. The Hon Minister for Energy is currently not available.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Members, any objections?
Mr Agbodza 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, we do not object to our own Hon Colleague, answering the Question, but I believe the Hon Deputy Majority Whip's simple explanation of the substantive Hon Minister for Energy not being available is inadequate.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Members, Order!
Hon Members, in Parliament, one must give an indication as to the whereabouts of an absent Hon Minister.
Mr Nyindam 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, unfortunately, the Hon Minister has gone for a retreat, but he called yesterday to indicate that our Hon Colleague, who is also an Hon Member of Parliament, is very capable of doing so. This is the reason we sometimes allow them to answer Questions on behalf of the substantive Hon Ministers.
Mr Speaker, since we therefore have our own Hon Colleague here, with my Hon good Friend nodding in positive direction, I think we should allow our Hon Colleague to answer the Question.
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
The Hon Member for Adaklu is also smiling, apart from nodding. Therefore Hon Member, you may kindly answer the Question. Now, your qualification is being an Hon Member in addition to being an Hon Deputy Minister.
Yes, Hon Ekow Hayford, Hon Member for Mfanseman?
MINISTRY OF ENERGY 11:07 a.m.

Mr Hayford 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, may I know when the subsequent
electrification project would commence?
Mr Cudjoe 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, we envisage that all the project elements would be completed in 2020 and, the ensuing contracts will follow thereafter.
Thank you.
Mr Hayford 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I am all right with the explanation given.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Question 634?
Review of the Saltpond Field Decommissioning Project
Q. 634. Mr Ekow Hayford asked the Minister for Energy the status of the Saltpond Off-shore Rig De-commissioning Project.
Mr Cudjoe 11:07 a.m.
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Review of the Saltpond Field Decommissioning Project
GNPC with the blessing of the Ministry has embarked on a two- phased programme to decommission the Saltpond Field. Phase-1 involves the preparation of a decommissioning
plan while phase-2 is the actual decommissioning operation.
Phase-1 of the project was awarded through competitive tendering process to a consulting consortium with PAP Energy Limited - Oxand - Dietsmann - Zeal and the consulting service agreement was signed in March 2018.
The Decommissioning plan was prepared between March and October 2018 and submitted to the Ministry in July 2019, and it is undergoing review prior to approval. After the review and the eventual approval of the Decommissioning Plan, the Ministry will make a publication in the dailies inviting qualified applicants to submit tenders for the decommissioning.
Phase II is outstanding and consists of three (3) stages:
a) Well plug and abandoning, ending with removal of conductor pipes;
b) Mr. Louie topside removal and dismantling; and
c) Waste management and site remediation.
Mr Hayford 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I would like to find out from the Hon Minister what corporate social responsibility initiative GNPC has for
the good people of Saltpond before and after the decommissioning exercise?
Mr Cudjoe 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, this corporate social responsibility plan would be brought to the attention of GNPC and GNPC Foundation so that it would be part of the actual Phase II Decommissioning exercise.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Hon Member, any further questions?
Mr Hayford 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, no.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Question 646, Hon Member for Afadzato South?
Mr Rockson-Nelson E. K. Dafeamekpor 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I rise to ask the Question, with your leave on behalf of the Hon Member for Afadzato South.
Mr Speaker 11:07 a.m.
Please, you may.
Q. 646. Mr Rockson-Nelson E. K. Dafeamekpor (on behalf of Hon Angela O. Alorwu-Tay) asked the Minister for Energy when electricity expansion programme would commence in the following communities in the Afadzato South District: (i) Kpeve Old Town (ii) Kpeve Tornu (iii) Goviefe Todzi (iv) Have (v) Logba (vi) Ve (vii) Nyagbo.
Mr Cudjoe 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, Kpeve Old Town, Kpeve Tornu, Goviefe Todzi, Kponyiri, Seutiepuor and Goyiri do not form part of any of the earmarked or on-going projects currently being executed by the Ministry for Energy. The towns have been noted and would be considered in subsequent electrification projects.
Mr Dafeamekpor 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I seek your direction in this matter; parts of the Answers that the Hon Deputy Minister gives in response to the Question as listed do not conform to the content of the Question. The names of some communities have been mentioned that clearly do not exist in the Afadzato South Constituency. For instance, Kponyiri, Seutiepuor and Goyiri are not communities in the Afadzato South Constituency. So, if the records could reflect that?
Mr Speaker, but to get the opportunity to ask my supplementary question. I would be glad to know when the next phase of the electrification project would be undertaken in the Afadzato South Constituency, and also in South Dayi, the adjoining Constituency?
Mr Cudjoe 11:07 a.m.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. The names have come as a result of oversight; that would be addressed. And in terms of the timing,
the project elements and scope are being prepared and the contractual processing would begin after the ongoing ones. That would be in 2020 when we bring those on board.
Mr Dafeamekpor 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, would the Hon Minister be kind enough to inform this House if, as part of the anticipated electrification project that he speaks of, he would include the distribution of metres as well? This is because the problem on the ground is that, the extensions are done and they do not come with metres so it makes it difficult for the community members to actually utilise the electricity when it is extended.
Mr Cudjoe 11:07 a.m.
Mr Speaker, this request has been noted, and we would look at its feasibility of including it in the electrification project.
Thank you.
Mr Speaker 11:27 a.m.
Thank you very much.
Question 647, Hon Member for Sawla/Tuna/Kalba?

Status of Electrification Projects in Nasolyiri and

Surrounding Communities

Q.647. Mr Andrew Dari Chiwitey asked the Minister for Energy the status of the electrification projects in the following communities: (i) Nasolyiri (ii) Sanyeri (iii) Jelinkow (iv) Kpongiri (v) Seutiepuor (vi) Goyiri (vii) Soma.
Mr Joseph Cudjoe 11:27 a.m.
Nasolyiri and Sanyeri form part of ongoing SHEP projects in the Savannah Region. The Contractor, Dass-B Electrical Services has planted 32 No. High Tension (HT) poles and dressed 250no. Low Voltage (LV) poles at Nasolyiri and planted 73No. HT poles and dressed 250No. LV poles at Sanyeri.
The rest of the communities namely; Jelinkow, Kpongiri, Seutiepuor and Goyiri have been noted and would be considered in subsequent electrifi- ication projects.
Mr Chiwitey 11:27 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I filed a Question regarding these communities on the 17th of November, 2017 and following the Answer given then and today's Answer, there are a lot of inconsistencies. On 17th November, 2017, the Hon Minister indicated that Nasolyiri, Sanyeri and Kpongiri communities in the Sawla/ Tuna/Kalba District formed part of the ongoing SHEP-5 being implemented then by the Ministry.
Today, the Hon Deputy Minister says that Kpongiri is not part of the
ongoing SHEP-5 Projects. I would need the Hon Deputy Minister to explain this to me. When exactly should the above communities, expect to have electricity? On 17 th November, 2017, the Hon Minister was very clear in his Answer, that by the end of the second quarter of 2018, the communities would be connected.
Mr Cudjoe 11:27 a.m.
Mr Speaker, subsequent to that assurance given on 17th November, 2017, there has been a project review in terms of the availability of funds, execution and contractor performance. That is the reason for the current response as given.
Mr Chiwitey 11:27 a.m.
Mr Speaker, may I know from the Hon Deputy Minister if it is the same Contractor who is still working on the project or there has been a change?
Mr Cudjoe 11:27 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I would verify which contractor is working on it at the moment and get back to the House.
Mr Chiwitey 11:27 a.m.
Mr Speaker, my final question. He did not give me any assurance regarding timelines. Could he assure me of when these communities should expect electricity?
Mr Cudjoe 11:27 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I would like to assure my Hon Colleague that
Mr Speaker 11:27 a.m.
Hon Deputy Minister, thank you very much for attending to the House and answering our Questions. You are respectfully discharged.
Hon Members, item numbered 4, Statements. We have a Statement in the name of the Hon Member for Juaboso on the issue of attempted suicides; a call to decriminalise it.
In the process, the Hon First Deputy Speaker would take the Chair.
Yes, Hon Member for Juaboso? [Pause] The Hon Member is not available.
At the commencement of Public Business, item numbered 5, Presentation of Papers by the Hon Chairman of the Committee on Constitutional, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs on the Corporate Insolvency Bill, 2019.
PAPERS 11:27 a.m.

Mr Speaker 11:27 a.m.
Item numbered 6, Motion. Hon Chairman of the Finance Committee?
Mr Osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:37 a.m.
Mr Speaker, the Report from the Finance Committee on the long term loan facility agreement between the Government of Ghana, represented by the Ghana Cocoa Board, and the African Development Bank is not ready, so the Motion cannot be taken yet.
Equally, the Report on the waiver of stamp duty on the Cocoa Productivity Enhancement Pro- grammes is also not ready, so item numbered 8 which is a Motion cannot also be taken. We would defer both of them.

The consequential Resolutions, that is items numbered 7 and 9 cannot also be taken. Further to that, item numbered 10 which is a Motion that the Constitution (Amendment) Bill, 2019 be now read a second time cannot also be taken. This is because we are having some consultations which have not been concluded. That being the case, we cannot take that Motion today.

Mr Speaker, -- [Interruption] - - the consultations are not concluded as I said -- I could not be early to the Business Committee meeting, so

I was just told by the Clerks-at-the- Table to factor that into the Business Statement for next week, and in all likelihood and probability, we would take that next week Thursday, by which time, I strongly believe, we would have concluded the consultations.

Mr Speaker, there are Committees that have been slated for meetings; the Standing Orders Committee started meeting this morning and I believe that it may be worth their concern while we continue the meet after we adjourn. The Committee on Constitu- tional, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs would also be meeting, the Committee on Local Government and Rural Development is programmed to meet and I know that the Committee on Special Budget would meet with the Electoral Commission officials and they will engage in very crucial meetings.

Mr Speaker, that being the case and having exhausted the programme for today, I beg to move that this House do now adjourn till tomorrow at 10 o'clock in the forenoon.
Mr Kwame Governs Agbodza 11:37 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I rightly support the Motion for adjournment. We have as many as five Committees meeting
right after adjournment and so, I have no objection to the Motion.
Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:37 a.m.
Mr Speaker, I am happy my Hon Colleague has seconded the Motion. Before you put the Question, this is just to remind the other Committees which have referrals that we are still waiting on them.
Mr Speaker, as I said, there are 28 referrals to Committees and they are not bringing their Reports. We have very limited time between now and the 13th of November when the Budget Statement would be presented. I will plead with the Committee leadership to combine their efforts to produce their Reports and submit them to us for possible deliberation and adoption.
Mr Speaker, thank you very much.
Question put and Motion agreed to.
ADJOURNMENT 11:37 a.m.

  • The House was accordingly adjourned at 11.40 a.m. till Friday, 1st November, 2019 at 10:00 a.m.