Debates of 30 Jun 2005

MR. SPEAKER
PRAYERS 10:05 a.m.

Mr. Speaker 10:05 a.m.
We do not have any edition of the Official Report.
Item 3. Business Statement for the Ninth Week. Chairman, Business Committee?
BUSINESS oF THE HoUSE
Majority Leader/chairman of the Business committee (Mr. F. K. owusu- Adjapong) 10:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Business Committee met yesterday, Wednesday, 29th June 2005 and determined Business of the House for the Ninth Week ending Friday, 8th July 2005 and presents its report as follows:
Arrangement of Business
Question(s)
Mr. Speaker, the Committee has scheduled sixteen (16) Questions to be answered by Ministers during the week.
The details are as follows:
No. of Question(s)
i. Minister for Lands, Forestry and Mines 1
ii. Minister for Local Government and Rural Development 1
iii. Minister for Fisheries
3
iv. Minister for Health
3
v. Minister for Ashanti Region
1
vi. Minister for Road Transport
5
vii. Minister for the Interior
2
Total Number of Questions
16
Urgent Questions
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister for Lands, Forestry and Mines and the hon. Minister for Health have also been scheduled to answer one (1) Urgent Question each during the week.
Mr. Speaker, in all, eighteen (18) Questions have been scheduled to be answered.
Statements
Mr. Speaker, duly admitted Statements may be allowed to be made in the House.
Bills, Papers and Reports
Mr. Speaker, Bills may be presented for consideration by the House. Papers may be laid and some Reports from the various Committees are also expected to be laid.
Motions and Resolutions
Mr. Speaker, motions may be debated and their consequential Resolutions, if any, may also be taken.
Statements Requiring Immediate Response
Mr. Speaker, when the Member for Binduri raised issues in his Statement on the outbreak of anthrax disease, the hon. Minister for Food and Agriculture was subsequently contacted to respond to the concerns on a later day. Mr. Speaker, in other instances, interventions of Ministers relating to issues with which they are officially responsible tends to enhance contribution of Members.
Mr. Speaker, for the smooth working of Parliament, the Committee proposes that any Statement requiring the response
of a sector Minister, that Minister should be duly informed about the pending Statement to enable him/her to attend upon Parliament on an appropriate date.
conclusion
Mr. Speaker, in accordance with Standing Order 160 (2) and subject to Standing Order 53, the Committee submits to this honourable House the order in which the Business of the House shall be taken during the week.

Urgent Question --

Rev. Benjamin B. Donkor (Hemang Lower Denkyira) to ask the Minister for Lands, Forestry and Mines what his outfit is doing to curb the incidence of elephants straying from the Kakum National Park to destroy farm crops in the communities around the park.

Questions --

Minister for Lands, Forestry and Mines -- 98

Minister for Local Government and Rural Development -- 99

Committee Sittings

Questions --

Minister for Fisheries -- 73, 142,

143

Committee Sittings
Majority Leader/chairman of the Business committee (Mr. F. K. owusu- Adjapong) 10:05 a.m.
Urgent Question --
Mr. Stephen Amoanor Kwao (Upper Manya Krobo) to ask the Minister for Health when a permanent medical doctor will be posted to Asesewa to man the Asesewa District Hospital.
Questions --
Minister for Health -- 75, 97 and
150
Minister for the Ashanti Region
-- 137
Committee Sittings

Questions --

Minister for Road Transport -- 70, 83, 84, 85 and 86

Minister for the Interior -- 113 and 144

Committee Sittings
Dr. Kwame Ampofo 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, about three or four weeks ago I filed an Urgent Question to be put to the hon. Minister for Energy to tell the House the President's claim of the gas discovery but up till now, it has not been put on the Order Paper. I am wondering -- because the urgency of that question is being lost.
Mr. Speaker 10:15 a.m.
Hon. Member for South Dayi, we will look into that. As you know, these Questions are processed. You made your point; we will look into that.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
Mr. Speaker 10:15 a.m.
Thank you very much, we will look into that.
oRAL ANSWERS To QUESTIoNS
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION 10:15 a.m.

Minister for Information (Mr. Dan Botwe) 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I wish to thank the honourable Member for his Question.
It would be recalled that at an earlier appearance by the former Minister for Information to answer a Question (369) the honourlable House was informed that a 10 kW TV transmitter would be sited at Kete Krachi to cover the northern part of the Volta Region under GBC's expansion programme.
This has been duly done and a Ghana Broadcasting Corporation technical team will be in Kete Krachi next week to check the equipment. That technical audit would indicate a date of commissioning, and an improvement in the TV transmission in Nkwanta District.
Mr. Gbediame 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in his Answer, he mentioned that after the audit and commissioning, there will be an improvement in the television trans- mission. I want to know whether the transmission cannot take place until the project has been commissioned.
Mr. Botwe 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the exercise is on the technical audit. When the audit is completed, it does not take more than a day to do the commissioning. The most important thing is that the technical audit team will have to certify that everything technical about the project is alright and then we will go ahead to commission it. The commissioning will not delay the project.
Mr. Francis Agbotse 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to find out from the hon. Minister what he is doing in general about television transmission in the Volta Region. [Interruptions.]
Mr. Botwe 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Rhodes and Schwartz Project has put in place transmitters throughout the country. Very soon, the loan to start the refurbishment of the studios of Ghana Broadcasting Corpora-tion (GBC) will also be brought to this honourable House. And I am very confident that when that is done, it will improve the general television transmission in the country.
Mr. Agbotse 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am aware that the Minister recently was on a tour of the Volta Region. The problem at Amedzofe is not a question of what he is talking about. What is he doing so that Amedzofe transmission station comes back on line?
Mr. Botwe 10:15 a.m.
Mr.Speake r, t he Director-General of Ghana Broadcasting Corporation, the Board Chairman and a technical team had visited Amedzofe; visited the Volta Region. The parts needed to rectify the situation there are being imported. It might interest the hon. Member to know that yesterday,
a delegation of the Regional House of Chiefs called on me to pursue the same matter and it is being resolved.
Alhaji Sumani Abukari 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to know from the hon. Minister whether trial transmissions cannot be done during the technical audit and whether it is not possible to start transmissions even before the inauguration -- after the technical audit?
Mr. Botwe 10:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my under- standing of the technical audit is that it will involve test transmission and when that has been completed and they are satisfied that everything is in place then the commissioning will take place.
Mr. Sumani Abukari 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the second part of my question was whether the proper transmission could not start even before the commissioning, since the commissioning could take several months, depending on the programme of the hon. Minister.
Mr. Botwe 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the emphasis is not on the commissioning. As soon as the technical audit is completed and they have given a clean certificate that the system that was put in place is going to work without any technical difficulty, that same day, the project could be commissioned.
Mr. Joe Gidisu 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to find out from the hon. Minister whether the ten kilowatts television transmitter which is being sited at Kete Krachi, would still be dependent on the faulty transmitter at Amedzofe or it is going to be independent of it.
Mr. Botwe 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my under- standing is that it will be independent.
Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in his Answer to the main Question, the hon. Minister appears to be putting everything
Mr. Botwe 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my layman's understanding of the technical audit as it applies to almost every project is that it is to ensure that in working on the system that was put in place to ensure that at the end of the day, there is better transmission, they have followed all the steps. They have tested it and they know that it will deliver as the project was started. That is my understanding of that. Anything beyond that, I would have to seek clarification from the technical people.
Mr. Adjaho 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to find out from the hon. Minister whether it is his layman's view that he has put in the Answer or it is the technical view from the technical people that he has put in the Answer.
Mr. Botwe 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, when the hon. Member decides to find out entirely what he wants to find out, I will try to give an Answer to that.
Mr. John Mahama 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister for information talks about commissioning. There are two kinds of commissioning -- technical commis- sioning and political commissioning. Which commissioning is he referring to here? [Laughter.]
Mr. Botwe 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, both -- [Laughter.]
Dr. Kwame Ampofo 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the hon. Minister's Answer to the hon. Member for Ho West's question, he stated that parts for the project were being processed for importation. I would want to know what the status of those preparations is and whether he will allow verification of the status of preparation for importation.
Mr. Botwe 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the parts have been imported and the Director-General of the Ghana Broadcasting Corporation and her technical team confirmed this to the delegation from the Regional House of Chiefs yesterday.
Dr. Ampofo 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to know from the hon. Minister if he is now telling the House that the parts have arrived. If he says they have been imported, it means they have arrived in the country. And if that is so, then what is holding up the project?
Mr. Botwe 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my impression yesterday was that the parts have not arrived in the country but they have been imported.
Mr. Stephen Kwao 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister said that the Ghana Broadcasting technical team would be in Kete Krachi next week. Since “next week” can be quite relative, may I know from the hon. Minister on what date the technical team will be in Kete Krachi?
Mr. Botwe 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I will find that out from the Director-General of Ghana Broadcasting Corporation.
Mr. Speaker 10:25 a.m.
Hon. Minister for Information, thank you very much for coming to answer this Question. You are hereby released.
MINISTRY OF ROAD TRANSPORT 10:25 a.m.

Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was expecting the hon. Minister to answer the Question on one road, that is, the Kpedzeglo-Agorve-Kpomkpo-Podoe is one stretch of road. But his Answer to the second part of the Question was on a completely different road leaving out the portion between Agorve and Kpomkpo, which is equally very important. And that is the major thrust of the Question as to what is being done to open that road through in that corridor of the district.
Dr. Anane 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is the rendition of the entire Question on the stretch which made it difficult for us to appreciate the need to Answer them as a single corridor. But Mr. Speaker, it is the road and roads in that area, which are currently under study, and we intend putting them all right soon after the studies have been done.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in his main Answer to the Question, the hon. Minister identified the improvement works required on the road to include the installation of culverts, raising of low-lying areas and sectional gravelling of slippery sections. But in the second part, he said that feasibility studies were being conducted. What is entailed in the feasibility studies when he has already identified those problems on the road? What is entailed in the feasibility studies to be undertaken again when the main problems have been identified on the road?
Dr. Anane 10:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in my Answer, I said the anticipated improvements required to put the road into a shape which would make it motorable year round will include -- and I had listed installation of culverts, raising of low-lying areas and sectional gravelling of slippery sections.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not get the Minister very clearly. Is he saying that engineering works are being done or it is the feasibility studies that are still ongoing?
Dr. Anane 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the earlier part, I mentioned that feasibility studies are being conducted on the road and would be completed in September. And then, I went on to say that engineering studies and designs would commence in October. That was the first portion and which my hon. Colleague mentioned. And if we are yet to complete the feasibility studies and if we have also not completed the engineering works, then we can only anticipate what ought to be done just because of what we have seen in the corridor. It is only after we have finished with all these studies that we can determine the exact requirement that ought to be done on the road.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, having admitted that the road is in a very poor shape and it is going to be until May, 2006 or next year that the road is going to be awarded on contract for serious work, what steps are the Ministry taking, at least, to bring some relief to the communities along that corridor of the district?
Dr. Anane 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, we definitely
Mr. Adjaho 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the Answer printed on the Order Paper, the word, “anticipated” is not there. I want to know whether the hon. Minister is amending his Answer on the Order Paper because, the Questions that we would want to ask would depend on the Answer on the Order Paper.
Dr. Anane 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I believe my hon. Colleague appreciates that it is what I say and which is captured in the Hansard which becomes my Answer. Therefore, it is what I have spoken now which must be taken as my Answer.
Mr. Adjaho 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Minister whether the Answer printed in the Order Paper is not coming from him.
Dr. Anane 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Answer,
definitely, is coming from me but we definitely go back to do further checks and it is when we have finished with the further checks that we present the final Answer to the august House.
Dr. Benjamin Kunbuor 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the hon. Minister's Answer, he indicated that feasibility studies are going to be carried out on a road that has been in existence. I would want to know from the hon. Minister whether such feasibility studies might end up indicating that the work should not be carried on. That is, whether it becomes unfeasible to carry on the work; whether that is part of the study outcome.
Dr. Anane 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, fortunately, hon. Salia on the other side has volunteered
to educate my hon. Colleague on the need for this and therefore I hope he would be able to explain it to him why there is the need for feasibility studies. Even for the arterial roads that we are doing from Accra to Cape Coast, Accra to Sogakope, Aflao, Accra to Kumasi and others, we still do feasibility studies. So, Mr. Speaker, I am sure he would be educated later on it.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:35 a.m.
First, Mr. Speaker, I did not ask the question well.
Mr. A. S. K. Bagbin 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think that the Answer given by my hon. Colleague on the other side is unparliamentary. It is an offence against Standing Order 93 (2) which is offensive in the sense that he is talking about “educating the hon. Member”. [Inter- ruption.] He said, “educating the Member”, which is -- [Interruption.] [An hon. Member: That the Member is ignorant.]
Mr. Bagbin 10:35 a.m.
Please, Mr. Speaker, it meant that the hon. Member was ignorant about the area he was asking about. And I am telling you that the hon. Member was asking about feasibility studies and we all understand what feasibility studies mean. It does not mean that in asking that question, he was ignorant about the field.
Feasibility studies could bring any report as to whether the thing is feasible or is not feasible. So to say that his hon. Colleague on the other side, hon. Salia, would educate his hon. Colleague is something I believe strongly unpar- liamentary. Mr. Speaker, I can read that Standing Order for the edification of my hon. Colleagues -- [Interruption] -- Edification [Interruption.] It is not the same.
Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Order!
Mr. Bagbin 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, with your permission I read Standing Order 93 (2).
“It shall be out of order to use offensive, abusive, insulting, blasphemous or unbecoming words or to impute improper motives to any other Member or to make personal allusions.”
Mr. Speaker, I believe strongly that the use of the language, “would educate his hon. Colleague on the need for the use of feasibility studies” by the hon. Colleague on the other side is, in my understanding of the English language, abusive of the intelligence of his hon. Colleague. It is, in fact, insulting and it is making personal allusions of the Member, and I believe that he should withdraw that aspect of his Answer.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the way my hon. Colleague phrased his Question definitely indicates possible lack of understanding of the term “feasibility studies”. This is because if he can repeat the way he put the Question, then you would notice that he -- [Interruption.] Please!
Therefore, for him to suggest that possibly it would take much longer time and therefore he trusts that hon. Salia who is involved in this matter may have more time -- This is because, Mr. Speaker, if that understanding is there, we do feasibility studies everyday in our daily lives but for him to ask that for an existing road, whether there is the need for feasibility means a possible lack of understanding -- Therefore, if he is suggesting that it would take much longer time for him to explain how you go through feasibility processes and he, trusting that hon. Edward Salia, who is very competent in this area, may be able to spend more time -- then I do not see anything offensive in the matter.
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Mr. Speaker 10:35 a.m.
Hon. Member for Lawra Nandom, I thought -- [Interrup-tion.]
Dr. Kunbuor 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, since he was the first that was referred to -- [Interruption.]
Mr. E. K. Salia 10:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, indeed, he is my hon. Colleague and he knows that as far as this Question is concerned, it did not require the Answer he gave. Indeed, I am not a consultant to his Ministry. I am not a factor in the equation in this particular parliamentary Question time and I have no agreement whatsoever with him to educate anybody, whether he is on this side or the other side of the House. I take a strong exception to that. At least, if he wanted me to support him in his role as a Minister based on my previous experience, he should have actually contacted me prior to this time, rather than putting me on the spot and making me feel uncomfortable in relationship to my hon. Colleagues.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Minister for Road Transport, your hon. Colleagues appear to take a strong objection; you may do the necessary thing and then let us go on.
Dr. Anane 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not need to go back because my hon. Colleague opposite who has been a Minister for a long time was really nodding when I made the sign to you so I thought you have accepted. But Mr. Speaker, IDA requirement states that we do feasibility studies for all projects that we are going to do and feasibility studies involve the study not only about the road itself but even about the environment associated with the road so that whatever we do shall be beneficial to the people living on
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Minister, I thought they are taking objection to the use of a certain word.
Mr. Anane 10:45 a.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, if my Colleague is not happy about the word “education”, perhaps I may learn from the hon. Minority Leader and rather replace it with “edification”. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Member for Lawra, you have been standing for some time.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, because I thought that once my name has been put in the fray, I needed to make a response. I can actually forgive the hon. Minister because he has his own peculiar difficulties to deal with. But I cannot take the conduct of the Majority Leader himself. I will therefore urge Mr. Speaker, that you direct the Majority Leader to withdraw that aspect of the imputation he made to me corroborating what the Minister has said.
The effect of what the Majority Leader said was that as far as he was concerned, he thought it was a lack of understanding of the word “feasibility” that informed my Question and that is not correct, Mr. Speaker. That is not correct and I want him to withdraw it. That is what I am saying, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Member for Lawra, I heard you saying that you were asking me to direct -- Was it not what you said?
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I did indicate that once hon. Salia's name was first mentioned, I would give him the opportunity to respond before I come.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
No, you said you were asking Mr. Speaker to direct -- [Interruption.]
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Precisely, that he should withdraw the statement and the imputation he made to me.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
I thought you should not put it that way.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. He should humbly withdraw that statement.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
You are asking me, not directing me.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
No, I am actually asking that the hon. Member -- because I am addressing the Chair -- should withdraw that statement.
Mr. osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, first with respect, my hon. Colleague merely said sorry. He must withdraw his direction to the Speaker. Then secondly, my hon. Colleague before sitting down, sir, he himself admitted that perhaps “I did not ask the proper question”. Mr. Speaker, he said so before he sat down, so it means that he admits that he was wrong in even asking the wrong question.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
I accept your withdrawal in good faith.
Dr. Kunbuor 10:45 a.m.
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the other guidance that I want to ask from you on this matter is that from the comment of the Majority Leader -- this is Question time -- but the comments that the Majority Leader made in relation to this does not look parliamentary, that at a time Questions are being asked of a Minister, it is not permissible for the Leader of the House, as it were, to run commentary
on Questions that hon. Members of this House have asked. I would want your guidance on this matter because it is becoming an unbecoming conduct of the Majority Leader in this respect.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am a bit surprised. My response was in direct response to the defence that his Leader was trying to make to support whatever he wanted to do. I was trying to explain that the way he worded his question gave the impression that he did not understand the feasibility study, and that was what was creating the problem.
Now, in that case, what is wrong with it -- that he wanted to find out whether we need a feasibility study for an existing road. Definitely, if he knew what “feasibility” is, then he would have known that whether it is existing or not existing you need a feasibility study; that was why I said “perhaps”; and if I use the word “perhaps”, what is wrong with that?
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Hon. Members, as I always say, let us make progress.
Mr. Kenneth Dzirasah 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
I wish to ask a supplementary question, with your permission.
Mr. Speaker 10:45 a.m.
Please, go ahead.
Mr. Dzirasah 10:45 a.m.
Generally, any time contracts are awarded for reshaping of roads, the contractors go to site with a grader and virtually remove the top soil, the laterite or the gravel. What is the way out of this, since they leave the road in a worse condition than they came and found it? What can the hon. Minister do about this?
Dr. Anane 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the solution to all this is for us to be able to surface all our roads. But Mr. Speaker, we have a long way to go to complete that agenda. For the time being, in order to keep the

roads motorable and especially because the gravel in that area may be acceptable, the engineers, after their evaluation, may advise for the initial grading though eventually we would have to do surfacing. In fact, we are trying to learn from other countries so that we would be able to do this for all our roads to be usable year- round. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Regular and Uninterrupted Boat Service

Q. 25. Mr. Joe Kwashie Gidisu asked the Minister for Road Transport what was being done to guarantee the regular uninterrupted service of the boat which plies between Ada and Akuse in the Lower Volta Basin.
Dr. Anane 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Ghana Highway Authority (GHA) operates two ferry crafts M.S. Sogakope and M.S. Okor at the Ada Marine Yard and serves communities living along the Lower Volta Basin, that is downstream of the Akuse dam.
The two crafts are serviced regularly to ensure uninterrupted service to the inhabitants in the area. The crafts have also been recently fitted with fixed and sliding windows and supplied with life jackets, life buoys and rafters for the crew and passengers.
Mr. Speaker, the ferry craft M.S. Okor plies the Adsa - Amedeka route three (3) trips per week whilst, M.S. Sogakope serves the communities across the river banks (Anyanui and surrounding areas) on Wednesdays which happen to be the market day. The ferry craft, M.S. Okor leaves Ada Foah for Amedeka on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays and returns to Ada Foah on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays respectively.
Mr. Speaker, on other days, M.S.
Sogakope serves as a standby craft for M.S. Okor in case of any eventuality or breakdown. Sometimes, it is also hired out to the public on request. In the past, GHA was running daily services but due to low patronage, the services were reduced to three times a week. He services to the inhabitants along the Lower Volta Basin have been regular.
Mr. Speaker, the main constraints facing the operations of the services are the growth of aquatic weeds which hamper the operations of the craft by entangling the propeller. The Ministry is collaborating with the Volta River Authority (VRA) through the Ministry of Energy to remove the weeds to ensure a free waterway.
In addition, with the recent increase in the price of fuel, the Ministry is sourcing additional funds from the Road Fund to meet the efficient operation of the crafts.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:45 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to find out from the Minister what is the nature of collaboration between his Ministry and the VRA, knowing very well the nature of the problem.
Dr. Anane 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, we can only collaborate through the sector Ministry which is the Ministry of Energy, and therefore we have made the request through the Ministry of Energy for the issue of aquatic weeds to be removed in order to permit free flow of water as well as the vessel.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am
a little bit taken aback; does the hon. Minister want to say that the reduction in the services of the boat plying Ada and Akuse three times, which formerly was on daily basis, was due to low patronage?
Dr. Anane 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have stated
specifically so; that due to low patronage

they had to cut down on the services. But Mr. Speaker, the movement of the vessel is that when it leaves on Monday it comes back on Tuesday, which means that they still serve for two days. The only thing is that it is now one way north and one way south.
Mr. c. S. Hodogbey 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
my question to the hon. Minister is, when he said low patronage, how many people now patronise the boat daily?
Dr. Anane 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not have
the figures here but about two years ago I had to attend to this august House, on this same question. And Mr. Speaker, at that time, we had the problem of patronage and the problem of the vessels themselves not being maintained properly. Indeed, Mr. Speaker, it is based on these problems and the fact that the corridor is poorly served with the road network, that is why Cabinet even directed that we take this action.
Mr. Speaker, users of the vessels would be the first to attest to it that the use of the vessels is highly subsidised. Mr. Speaker, if today more people would want to use them, then we may have to revise our schedule; but until the time when we put it into shape, the patronage was poor, for the vessel has the capacity of two hundred people.
Mr. Kenneth Dzirasah 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker,
I do recall that about four years ago my hon. Colleague for Central Tongu raised an issue in relation to this ferry. Mr. Speaker, on that occasion, the hon. Minister assured us that diesel was going to be made available through HIPC funding. I recall that we raised the issue of whether it would not be better for the vessel to charge economic rate so that they could generate their own income to run the services. I
am sorry, I am making a narration -- I have visited the marine site at Ada several times; they run out of diesel and that is why they do not ply those routes.
The question is that does the Ministry have any future plans to bring an Instrument to review the level of charges for that service so that the people can patronise it? I say so because normally the distance that you could reach by paying ¢10,000 by river, you could pay only ¢2,000 to get there. So it is a very cheap source of transportation. Does the hon. Minister have any plan to reduce the charges so that our people can have the benefit of uninterrupted service?
Dr. Anane 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would
take a cue from my hon. Colleague's submission and seek advice and direction from Cabinet.

ANNoUNcEMENTS

Delegation from the Lagos State House of Assembly
Mr. Speaker 10:55 a.m.
Hon. Members, may

The Delegation is led by the Deputy

Speaker, Farouk Oshodi. The other members are as follows:

Hon. Baba Jide Omoworare -- Majority Leader

Hon. Dr. Abdurrasaq Balogun -- Deputy Majority Leader

Hon. Olayemi Olabanji -- Chief Whip

Hon. (Mrs.) Ade Funmilayo Tejuoso
Mr. Speaker 10:55 a.m.
-- Deputy Chief Whip
Hon. Jide Akinloye -- MP
Hon. Oluranti Ajose -- MP
Hon. Olanrewasu Odesanta -- MP
Mr. Rasheed O. Jaiyesimi -- Clerk
Mr. Ibiyemi Ogayeni -- Deputy Clerk
On behalf of this House I welcome you all to the Parliament of the Republic of Ghana; and we wish you a happy stay.

Enchi Road Network (Tarring)

Q. 60. Mr. Samuel K. Adu-Gyamfi asked the Minister for Road Transport when the following roads would be tarred:

Enchi-Asankragwa

Enchi-Assemkrom-Elubo

Enchi-Dadieso
Mr. John. A. Tia 10:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want your direction on this. Before the hon. Member asked the Question, he said he was asking your indulgence to ask the Question. I do not know if that is proper -- asking your indulgence, when you have asked him to ask the Minister this Question. I do not know and I want your direction on it -- [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 10:55 a.m.
Hon. Minority Chief Whip, this is not a point of order.
Dr. Anane 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Enchi- Asankragwa road is 55 kilometres. It is a section of the Bawdie-Manso Amenfi- Asankragwa-Enchi Regional Road (R123) in the Western Region. It is a gravel road in fair condition and traverses a corridor rich

Programme

Bawdie-Asankragwa-Enchi

The Bawdie-Asankragwa-Enchi road is being surface dressed (tarred) in phases. The Bawdie-Manso Amenfi portion (20 km) has been completed. The portion from Manso Amenfi-Asankragwa (30 km) is currently under construction.

Feasibility and preliminary studies on the Asankragwa-Enchi section were completed in 2001 under the International Development Association (IDA) support funding. The road is to be surface dressed (tarred) as part of the Transport Sector Development Programme (TSDP) scheduled to commence from 2007 to

2010.

Last year, portions of the road were cut off during the rains and remedial works amounting to ¢529 million were undertaken. These included:

filling the soft spots with mine waste.

cutting of ditches and turn-outs.

This year, the Ghana Highway Authority has scheduled to construct culverts at those critical spots and clear the tree canopies in anticipation of activities on the road in 2007. The evaluation of tenders for the works is in progress and the works are scheduled to commence by 1st October 2005.

In addition, routine maintenance works are done annually to keep the road in motorable condition. These involve reshaping, filling of soft spots, and ditch cleaning. The routine maintenance contract for 2005 was awarded to Messrs (M/s) Trustsam Co. Ltd. on 4th April, 2005. About 80 per cent of the first grading works have been completed.

Enchi-Assemkrom-Elubo

Background

The 88 km Enchi-Assemkrom-Elubo Road is part of the National Road (N12) in the Western Region.

It is a gravel road in fair to poor condition and also traverses a rich agricultural area.

Programme

The tarring of this road started with the Elubo-Assemkrom section by M/s Eagle Star Enterprise Ltd. in 1995. However, the contract was terminated in February, 2000 because of slow progress of work and budgetary constraints.

The Elubo-Assemkrom section has been repackaged together with the Assemkrom- Enchi section for consideration under the Transport Sector Development Project (TSDP) from 2007 to 2010. Similar remedial works were undertaken last year on this road as was done on the Asankragwa-Enchi Road. An amount of ¢834.8 million was involved.

Evaluat ion of tenders for the construction of critical culverts and the clearing of tree canopies is in progress and works are scheduled to commence in October 2005. Meanwhile, routine maintenance works are done annually to keep the road in a motorable condition.

In 2005, the routine maintenance contract was awarded to M/s A. Hans- Kap on 4th April, 2005. The contractor has completed 45 per cent of the first grading works.

On the Enchi-Dadieso road, this is a 43-km road and is made up of two parts:

The 28-km Enchi-Kramokrom road, N12 and the 15-km Kramokrom-Dadieso road, R129. The roads are in a fair to poor condition.

Programme

In 1994 the road was rehabilitated to a gravel surface and has been undergoing routine maintenance services. The road is programmed for tarring under the Transport Sector Development Project (TSDP) in 2007-2010.

Just as with the other two roads already mentioned, remedial works undertaken last year amounted to ¢665.6 million. Similar tenders for the construction of culverts and clearing of tree canopies are being evaluated and the work is scheduled to commence in October, 2005.

In addition, routine maintenance works are done annually to keep the road motorable. The 2005 routine maintenance contract has been awarded to M/s Heals' “B” Ltd. on the 4th of April 2005. The contractor is mobilizing to start work.
Mr. Adu-Gyamfi 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Minister if he is aware that part of the works awarded to Trustsam Company Ltd is being done by Sammatex Timber Company as part of their social responsibility.
Dr. Anane 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am aware.
Sammatex has been doing a lot as part of their social responsibility to the people in the corridor.
Mr. Adu-Gyamfi 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thought that Sammatex, as part of their social responsibility, may work to help the people in critical areas where contracts had not been awarded. If a road is awarded to a company and at the same time the timber company is also working on the road then the company is not helping the people; and the contractor is also taking the money but we do not see the two working at the same time. I was worried so I would like the hon. Minister to find out about this so that the money would be given out for work to be done on another road instead
Mr. Speaker 11:05 a.m.
Hon. Member, ask a
question.
Mr. Adu-Gyamfi 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want
to know what the hon. Minister would do to show that such duplication would not arise.
Dr. Anane 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, payments
are done for works which are certified as having been done. If a contractor does not do a certain section of the road it would not be certified for that particular contractor. We are aware that Sammatex has been helping in the area and, indeed, last year I wrote to acknowledge their support for the people in the area.
Mr. Adu-Gyamfi 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Minister when K. B. Annan Construction would complete works on the tarring of the Enchi town roads.
Dr. Anane 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, since it was
not part of this Question, I did not prepare for that, so I would need some notice.
Mr. S. M. E. K. Ackah 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister has indicated in his Answer that the road is fair -- Mr. Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Minister when was the last time he travelled on this road.
Mr. Speaker 11:05 a.m.
Hon. Member for Suaman, what was the question?
Mr. Ackah 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon.
Minister is saying the condition of the road is fair to poor. I want to find out from him the last time he travelled on this road for him to be able to indicate that it is in a fair to poor condition.
Dr. Anane 11:05 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have been
travelling round the country but I cannot be at all places at the same time. I did travel on that road last year but I cannot

recollect the exact time I went there; but late last year I was in the corridor. With respect to the others, we still have our personnel who monitor these areas and therefore they are able to give us information which is up to date.
Mr. Evans Paul Aidoo 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to know from the hon. Minister the difference between a fair road and a very bad road. I want to know the difference between the two because I know the stretch from Asankragwa, Enchi to Dadieso is very bad but he is describing it as fair; I want to know the difference between the two.
Dr. Anane 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it appears I may have to come back to the House to again inform the House on the terms with respect to categorization of the road as being fair to poor. I had to do that last year but this is a new House and I have to inform the House adequately. But Mr. Speaker, when we say it is fair, it means that one could traverse the road at least at a maximum speed of about 50 kilometres per hour.
Ashaiman Roads (Tarring)
Q. 68. Mr. Alfred Kwame Agbesi asked the Minister for Road Transport when his Ministry would maintain and tar the following Ashaiman roads:
(i) Jericho road,
(ii) Lebanon roads,
(iii) Official Town/Christian Village roads, and
(iv) Ashaiman New Town- Afa- riwa roads.
Dr. Anane 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the roads in question fall under the jurisdiction of the Tema Municipal Assembly. The roads lie mainly in deprived low-
income communities. They are mainly earth/gravel roads with poor drainage. Encroachment has rendered some of the roads inaccessible.
The Department of Urban Roads with the support of the Tema Municipal Assembly has drawn up a programme for the construction/maintenance of the roads in the area. In this regard, the following works have been programmed:
The Official Town/Christian Village Roads have been programmed for upgrading under the 2006 programme. They will however cont inue to receive rout ine maintenance in 2005.
Routine maintenance works were carried out on the Jericho Roads last year. Drainage and gravel works have been completed; sealing works have been programmed for 2006.
The Department of Urban Roads will continue to carry out routine maintenance works on the Ashaiman New Town and Lebanon roads. They will continue to collaborate with the Tema Municipal Assembly to prioritise these roads for upgrading in the coming years.
Mr. Agbesi 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I will crave your indulgence to ask three supple- mentary questions.
Mr. Speaker 11:15 a.m.
Please, go ahead.
Mr. Agbesi 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to know whether the hon. Minister is aware that just before the December elections last year, trips of laterite were brought to the Jericho road and vehicles had to use half of the road. These trips of laterite are still lying on the road causing embarrassment and traffic congestion.
Dr. Anane 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am not
aware but I will have to check up and make sure that the right things are done.
Mr. Agbesi 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the hon. Minister whether in the whole of the year 2005 anything would be done apart from the routine maintenance on the Ashaiman New Town, Lebanon roads. Because, he has mentioned that they have been programmed for 2006, meaning that during the whole of 2005 nothing would be done.
Dr. Anane 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, for the Official Town/Christian Village roads, I did mention that we would continue with the routine maintenance in 2005. For the Jericho roads, I did mention that routine maintenance works were carried out last year. And then for the Ashaiman New Town-Lebanon roads, I said we will continue to carry out routine maintenance works.
But Mr. Speaker, the other works will normally also depend upon the prioritization from the District Assemblies and since my hon. Colleague is a member of the Tema Municipal Assembly, I wish to urge him to help to prioritise this road so that we can give it the face-lift that he is requesting.
Mr. Agbesi 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister has said that encroachment has rendered some of the roads inaccessible. I want to know from him what he would do about this situation.
Dr. Anane 11:15 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I did mention that my hon. Colleague is a member of the Tema Municipal Assembly; and that is in the purview of the Municipal Assembly. We can only work when we have been given access to the corridors of the Assembly. So I will again urge my hon. Colleague to help through the Assembly to make it possible for us to get the encroachment removed from the corridor.
Dr. Anane 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, this project, funded by the Agence Francaise de Developpment (AFD) of France, was awarded for commencement by 7 th April 2003 and for completion by 7th October 2004. The contractor is Messrs Sonitra and the supervising consultant is Messrs Ingerop Africa of South Africa in association with ABP Consult of Ghana.
The original design concept was to provide a flyover for direct movement between Tema and Ashaiman. The cost of the project, which included rehabilitation of some roads in Sekondi and the Manhean road in Tema, was 17,314,634.46 Euros.
There has not been a long delay in the execution of this project. The contract completion period was extended to the end of May 2005 for the following reasons:
The original design concept was reviewed to convert the overpass or flyover into an interchange. This will allow traffic from Ashaiman and Tema to Accra to have direct access to the motorway and thereby reduce the congestion at the motorway roundabout in Tema. The change will also allow motorists from Accra to Ashaiman and Tema to use this facility.
The design was also reviewed to incorporate a roundabout on the Hospital Road.
Provision was made for an access road to the industrial area in Community 12, Tema.

Mr. Speaker, these additions neces- sitated that we extend the period of completion to May, as I have specified earlier. Mr. Speaker, during the course of the construction it was also detected that 13 of the beams that were cast were faulty with reinforcement details. These were rejected and the contractor was asked to recast them at his own cost. This, Mr. Speaker, has indeed necessitated a delay in the completion of the bridge but it was necessary because we expect that we do works to specification.

Mr. Speaker, it is now estimated that the project would be completed by the end of September 2005. The Department of Urban Roads has been directed to withhold any payment due to the consultants for the delayed period between May, that is the time the project should have been completed, and September, that is the expected completion date.
Mr. Agbesi 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon.
Minister has given the cost of this project and that of Tema Manhean and Sekondi roads rehabilitation. May I know from the hon. Minister the cost of this particular project, not including the Tema Manhean and Sekondi projects. I am interested in the cost of these particular projects.
Dr. Anane 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, indeed, the three projects were lumped together as one lot and awarded to the sum that has been specified, and therefore I am unable to decipher the particular cost of the various parts. But if my hon. Colleague wants that, I may check up on that and supply it to him.
Mr. Agbesi 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am not
happy with this answer. Three projects have been awarded in one -- The hon. Minister should be able to tell us the cost of one project. Mr. Speaker, I want to know from the hon. Minister why, when

the construction commenced, no bypass was provided to serve people in Ashaiman, Katamanso, Ho-Aflao, so that there would not be congestion at the Tema end of the Motorway.
Dr. Anane 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am at a
loss at my hon. Colleague's question. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague is aware that originally the inhabitants of Ashaiman did not have to use even the underpass on the Motorway and that there is actually a road linking them to the Akosombo road. Mr. Speaker, in addition to that, despite the fact that construction activities are on-going, traffic measures have been taken to make sure that commuters use the corridor even when activities are still on- going.
So Mr. Speaker, yes, we are having some little difficulties which are really associated with road construction and development, but a lot of work has been done to make sure that commuters can still use the corridor; and he knows the bye- passes which should have normally been used by residents of Ashaiman.
Mr. Agbesi 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, on 23rd May, 2005, the Daily Graphic reported that the hon. Minister had inspected the interchange, and he gave the assurance that this project would be completed at the end of August. In fact, I saw his beautiful face on television the night before; he was inspecting this project and I heard him say that the project would definitely be completed in August, 2005.
Now, in his answer, he is saying that this project would be completed at the end of September. I want to know from the hon. Minister whether he wants the people of Ashaiman, Tema and the people of Ghana to take him serious anytime he gives such an assurance.
Dr. Anane 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the completion
of the work as specified there in September is still in tune with our completion in
August. Mr. Speaker, I have mentioned that we found out that some of the beams which have been made by the contractor did not meet the specification and therefore we thought there was the need to give him some length of time; but we are on them to make sure that they complete as scheduled.
However, we think that they have lost some time due to the fact that they may have to replace some of these beams, which they have now been able to replace; and also there is the need for them to change-over to the other lane of the Motorway which we hope they would be able to do, perhaps by the close of next week. We believe that these are some of the few delays which have to be accounted for, and that is why we did say so.
Mr. B. D. K. Adu 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the
Answer to the Question, the hon. Minister said some colons and beams were poorly cast. I want to know from him how often his engineers and technicians go to project sites to advise contractors.
Dr. Anane 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I mentioned that the consultant for the project was Messrs Ingerop Africa of South Africa and ABP Consult of Ghana. These are our representative engineers on the site. That notwithstanding, we also oversee it to make sure that whatever is going on meets what we expect.
Mr. J. K. Avedzi 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the
Answer to the Question, the hon. Minister said that the Department of Urban Roads has been directed to withhold any payment due to the consultant for the delayed period between May and September. I want to know from the hon. Minister what he means by “withhold the payment”? Is it punishment or is the money going to be paid later, or it would not be paid at all? What does he mean by “withhold payment”?
Dr. Anane 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, this project, with the additions which we made to convert it from a fly-over into an interchange, should have come to an end in May this year. However, as was also indicated in my answer, it was detected that the beams had some faults associated with them. Mr. Speaker, the faults associated with the beams led to the rejection of these 13 beams and because these beams had been rejected they had to be re-done. This entailed the loss of time and therefore led to the delay my hon. Colleague has questioned about.
Mr. Speaker, since the consultant is on site, we expect that he should have been able to identify the necessary changes or faults before the casting of these beams. It is because of this that I have directed that their payments are withheld whilst we do our investigations to convince us that they have to be given those monies.
Mr. Eric opoku 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the
hon. Minister's answer to the Question he did indicate that the contractor is Messrs Sonitra and the supervising consultant is Messrs Ingerop Africa of South Africa in association with ABP Consult of Ghana. I know Architectural and Engineering Services Limited (AESL) is owned by the Ghana Government for the provision of consultancy services and AESL charges less than what these private consultants charge. I would like to know if AESL is competent enough to provide these consultancy services. Why is it that the Ministry of Road Transport keeps on engaging private and foreign consultants?
Dr. Anane 11:25 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, this sector,
I would want to believe, is a sector which is leading in private sector involvement and activity. Mr. Speaker, in addition to that we have competition in the sector and therefore tenders are open and one can always put in one's bid. If AESL puts in
a bid and wins, we have no problem with them, and therefore it is just a matter of competition. It is not because we want to encourage a foreigner or a local consultant. We would have wished that all consultants working on all our roads were Ghanaians, but it may not be possible.
Mr. Mahama 11:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the hon. Minister for Road Transport what is the height clearance of that bridge. There is some concern about the clearance of that particular bridge.
Dr. Anane 11:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I cannot
give it offhand, but I know it is over and above 11 metres; and the maximum height for any vehicle plying our routes is 11 metres and below. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I do not think that there is going to be any problem. We have done the necessary work on this, so there should be no problem with that.
Mr. Mahama 11:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, just
craving your indulgence. I know that the hon. Minister said that he was not sure, but 11 metres is incredible. The bridge at the Tetteh Quarshie Interchange, the clearance is five metres, so if he is talking about 11 metres that is incredible.
Mr. Speaker 11:35 a.m.
This is not a question.
Hon. Minister, thank you very much for appearing before the House to answer the Questions. You are hereby discharged.
Hon. Members, please amend your
Order Paper as follows: Item 5 -- Statements, then Item 6 - Motions, and then Item 7 -- Committee Sittings.
Item 5 -- Statements. A Statement by
the hon. Member for Amansie West.
STATEMENTS 11:35 a.m.

Mr. Kofi Krah Mensah (NPP - Amansie West) 11:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, exactly twenty years ago, on 30th June, 1982, three Justices of the High Court and a retired Army Officer were abducted from the comfort of their homes, driven across the Tema Motorway to the Bundase military range during curfew time when most Ghanaians had been forced to sleep. There, in cold blood, they were massacred by persons close to the centre of officialdom.
Mr. Speaker, year after year, this grim,
sordid event in our history is recalled in the form of memorial services and lectures and other events. Even today, as I speak, the Ghana Bar Association is holding a separate service at Osu Ebenezer Presbyterian Church in honour of the three Judges and the retired army officer.
Mr. Speaker, I want to particularly recall this incident as a means of reminding fellow Ghanaians that our collective security and survival can only be guaranteed by civilian constitutional rule.
Mr. Speaker, I am delighted to tell you
that the Constitution guarantees respect for fundamental human rights, especially the right to life and the right to believe anything one prefers.
Mr. Speaker, it is my prayer that gone
are the days when gun-totting activists and agents of a revolution would walk and operate in the night, knocking doors, waking up people and taking them to their deaths.
Mr. Speaker, those Judges who were
killed are true martyrs, because they perished in the line of duty. What is even
more harrowing is the fact that Mrs. Justice Koranteng-Addow, one of the victims, was a nursing mother with a child as young as two months old. Her husband, a former Attorney-General, Dr. Koranteng-Addow could not endure the ghastly spectacle and died a few years later.
Mr. Speaker, I cal l on fel low
Ghanaians to work in concert to protect our Constitution from adventurers who will seek to throw us into a dark forest of mayhem and chaos.
May these martyrs rest in perfect peace.
Mr. Speaker, may all those who seek
justice and freedom live for long and forever.
Mr. Speaker, may our Constitution
outlive several generations.
I thank you for your indulgence. Dr. Benjamin Kunbuor (NDc
- Lawra/Nandom): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to make a contribution to this all-important Statement.
Certainly when tragic events that are fatal occur in the history of every country, it is incumbent on the living to immortalize such an event and the victims of that event. It is in this light that over the years, Mr. Speaker, the Martyrs' Day has become one of the most significant days that ought to always prick the consciences of Ghanaians; because that marks a very sad day in terms of human rights and the rule of law in this country.
But, Mr. Speaker, we seem, as a country, not to have learned from the tragic events of what happened at that time. And the value of human life today in Ghana, Mr. Speaker, seems to look very, very cheap. We are still sitting and ruminating about the over 40 people and Ya-Na who died. These are citizens of this country and

one would be interested that we extend the immortalization of such tragic situations to include those unfortunate victims of what happened in Dagbon.

Mr. Speaker, if you look over the
rose
Mr. Speaker 11:35 a.m.
Hon. Member for
Kwabre East, do you have a point of order to raise?
Mr. K. Frimpong 11:35 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the
Dr. Kunbuor 11:45 a.m.
Thank you, I have
taken a cue and I am particularly very amused about his fine distinction of people who were killed and those who were murdered. But I will continue to indicate that it is not about the specific personalities that this occasion draws. It is about the principle that the hon. Colleague has raised that there are fundamental human rights, particularly the right to life, enshrined in our Constitution. So we are talking basically about the principle that this particular occasion brings and not necessarily going to the specific.
All that I have been trying to say, Mr. Speaker, is that regardless of who you are in this society, you are entitled to enjoy the fundamental human rights in the Constitution. And that should even
a person that is roaming the streets meet a tragic and untimely death, it should be something that should prick our public conscience very much like it has done in relation to the Judges; very much like it should do in relation to the situation in Dagbon; very much like what happened to Mobila and possibly very much like what would happen to many people if the public conscience is not aroused in relation to this development.

Mr. Speaker, as a nation, it becomes very important that on occasions like these we try as much as possible to keep the political dimensions away from these events. In fact, I can say that the type of sympathy in relation to the murder of the Judges and the support and consistency that it has built over the years has been a very significant one. I have always said it that never again should such a thing happen in the history of this country; and I take that very seriously. I say that never again should an occasion like that ever come in relation to any person of Ghana, be he a judge, a farmer or a fisherman. I also think that this Statement has always to be put in its proper context.

Mr. Speaker, fundamental human rights are very, very enduring types of principles that everybody should try and imbibe in a democratic system. What becomes difficult is when we choose to pick the beneficiaries of these human rights and deny others the opportunity to have them. Because if human rights, as it is often said, are too serious to be left to only individuals, it becomes important that all of us ensure that at any point that we see that the fundamental right of anybody, whether he is perceived to be an opponent, whether he is perceived to be a friend or not, we will have to rise up. That is the only way that we will never have this type of recurrence.

Mr. Speaker, with these few words, I would like to associate myself with the Statement.

Mr. John A. Ndebugre (PNc --

Zebilla): Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I rise to make some comments on this very important Statement. I must as well make this statement because at the time of this sad event, I was a member of the Provisional National Defence Council (PNDC) Government. I was the PNDC Regional Secretary for the Northern Region, now known as Regional Minister for the Northern Region.

I think that the incident was a very sad one as the two hon. Members who spoke previously have already stated; and on an occasion like this, it is my considered view that it serves no purpose to try to wax eloquence. I think that if we are to move forward as a nation, a united nation for that matter we must try and find a way or ways and means to put matters like these behind us and proceed with our lives.

It is my view as well that anybody who was connected with this incident, no matter how remote it was, must try as hard as possible and search his or her inner self and reconcile himself or herself with the God Almighty without worrying himself or herself about what we mortals are saying now. That is the maximum repentance that one can pay for this sort of attitude.

Mr. Speaker, I want to make a few points about this incident. The first point is that, it ought to be recognized that this incident was not an institutional one. In other words, it was not committed on behalf of an institution. It was not committed as a result of a government

policy; and I am saying it on authority because as I have already said, I was part of the Government of that time.

The Government at that time was made up of the Provisional National Defence Council otherwise called the PNDC. Then we had a Committee of Secretaries, made up of Sector Secretaries and Regional Secretaries. Sector Secretaries sat once every week performing the functions of a Cabinet and the Committee of Secretaries as a whole met once every month.

Therefore, as Regional Secretary, I was part of the Government and I am not aware that at any specific meeting of any of these organs, it was decided that some three High Court Judges and the retired Army Major should be abducted and murdered. And being a lawyer, I would like to state specific authority -- and I have in my hand -- I hope I am not waxing eloquence -- but I have in my hand the Executive Summary of the National Reconciliation Report of October, 2004. And Mr. Speaker, with your permission, I refer to page 186 of that document, paragraph 5.7.5.14. It says as follows -- and if I have the permission of the Rt. Hon. Speaker, I will read:

“5.7.5.14. What then was the truth? The truth was that the murderers knew that they were on an assignment which had the blessing of the PNDC. Of course, there is no evidence to suggest that the PNDC held a formal meeting at which it was decided to abduct and, perhaps, murder the judges.”

I think that what the paragraph is trying to say is that even if any members of the PNDC or the PNDC Government, for that matter, were involved in this matter, they were involved not as members of the institution, PNDC. They were involved as
Mr. Speaker 11:45 a.m.
Wind up, please wind
Mr. Ndebugre 11:55 a.m.
That is so, Mr.
Speaker.
I want to say that it is time for us to bury the hatchet. I have taken time to explain this because it appears to me that this incident has divided the nation into two; one group accusing the other and the other group being on the defensive. If we agree that it was not an institutional act, in other words, it was not an act on behalf of a government, it was not act on behalf of a political party, then there is no need for anybody to accuse a group, and there is no need for any group to be on the defence.
So we must all accept that it was a very unfortunate incident and we must apologize to God, not to even ourselves. And I am happy that the Chief Justice said that a few days ago. We must bury the hatchet; and in our tradition, we bury the hatchet; some people call it burying the blood. When there is shedding of blood, they bury the blood; they try to forget about the incident so that society can progress. That is what I am calling for now.
As a practical suggestion, I am calling upon those who are being perceived as the persons who conspired to commit heinous crime to take part next year in the celebrations marking this event. They must not stay away.

I started attending the memorial and all the events connected with this matter as soon as I left the Provisional National Defence Council (PNDC) and went to the Faculty of Law to study law. And there was not a single person among the congregation that ever said, “You murderer, get out”. They rather embraced me and felt that if I had anything to do with

the incident at all, I had confessed and my sins have been forgiven -- [Laughter] -- So Mr. Speaker, I am calling on everybody to participate in this thing as a means of putting faith to this unfortunate incident.
Mr. Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Hon. Member, are you winding up?
Mr. Ndebugre 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am just making the last sentence or thereabouts. [Laughter.]

Mr. Speaker, the thing that the Ghana Bar Association needs to do to complete its act of gallantry is to disregard the fact that the late Major Sam Acquah -- May he rest in perfect peace, because he afforded me accommodation in Accra when I was doing my national service at GIHOC. A very fantastic gentleman, kind to the high Heavens. I am calling on the Ghana Bar Association to disregard the fact that he was a military man and a non-legal person, and erect a bust also side by side the busts

of the three legal luminaries to complete the number of matyrs.

After that every year, I would go round all the friends I know who are distancing themselves from this event and encourage them to assist me and my good Friend, the hon. Member of Parliament for Berekum, Capt. Nkrabeah Effah-Dartey (rtd.) and then take part openly in the celebration so that we would bridge the gap between the two groups and make this nation move forward.
Alhaji Sumani Abukari (NDc -- Tamale North) 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I was actually not in the Chamber when this Statement was made, but gathering from the hon. Member who just spoke, I think that this is a very good Statement and I think that the whole country should mourn the gruesome murder of the three Judges and the retired Major.
It was an act that we have no excuse for. It was an act which was most unnecessary. It was an act which placed a black spot on the history of this country, an act that placed a black spot on the consciences of all Ghanaians. So as we mourn them and celebrate their sacrifice year by year, let us reflect on what happened and promise our countrymen, and promise every citizen of Ghana that that barbaric act will never reoccur in this country.
Mr. Speaker, one would also have to find out whether we have learned any lessons from what happened. Have we as a country and a people learned anything because if we celebrate the event year by year and we do not learn not to repeat such acts, then our celebration will be in vain. It will be completely useless. It will be a form of window-dressing.
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Mr. Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Hon. Minister for the Interior, do you have a point of order?
Minister for the Interior (Papa owusu-Ankomah) 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, yes. Mr. Speaker, I think the hon. Member, in his contribution, is unwittingly misleading the House. In the case of the Ya-Na's murder, we all know that two persons were arraigned before a court. They were prosecuted and acquitted by the court. Even in the case of Alhaji Mobila, the Attorney-General has been here, answered a Question and we have read in the media that certain persons had been arraigned
before the court. So it is most incorrect for the hon. Member to say that nothing had happened in those two matters. That is a point of correction.
Mr. Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Hon. Member, you take that on board.
Alhaji Abukari 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have taken it. Already, I am aware of it. What he is saying is nothing new to me. But what the judge said in that case was that these people were not responsible for the murder of the Ya-Na. Have we found the murderers of the Ya-Na and the forty others? That is a question we should answer. Have we found the murderers? This is because the court, as the Minister for the Interior had admitted, acquitted and discharged them implying that they were not the real ones. Who were the real murderers of the Ya-Na and the forty others?

Mr. osei Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu -- rose
-- 11:55 a.m.

Mr. Speaker 11:55 a.m.
Hon. Majority Chief Whip, do you have a point of order to raise?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 11:55 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, that is so. Mr. Speaker, unfortunately, when the Statement was made, my hon. Colleague on floor was not present. The first hon. Member who spoke was the hon. Member for Lawra-Nandom (Dr. Kunbuor). Mr. Speaker, he decided to go on the same trajectory and he was brought home that this matter related to a specific instance.
My hon. Colleague appears to be veering off and he is repeating the same
thing as my hon. Colleague who spoke earlier was adverting to for which Mr. Speaker, you drew his attention, that he must toe the line. So my hon. Colleague would take a cue from your earlier direction and relate himself to the specific issue being considered.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not know what to say but since you have ruled him out of order I would not say anything to it because we are talking about the general security facing every citizen of Ghana including you and me, that nothing of the sort that happened to the Judges and the Major should happen to anybody. And that is exactly what happened in Yendi; and that is exactly what happened to Alhaji Issa Mobila. Alhaji Issa Mobila went to the Police Station to report that they were looking for him. He was detained in the Police Station; a group of military men went and took him to the barracks and his body was found in the mortuary the next day. Even though the Attorney-General assured us that the perpetrators were going to be charged, as we stand here today, nothing is being done. [Interruption.]
Papa owusu-Ankomah 12:05 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, this is really outrageous. This is outrageous.
Some hon. Members: Why?
Papa owusu-Ankomah 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, for the hon. Member to stand on the floor of this House and make such a statement, even impugning the integrity of a member of Government -- It is a fact that these persons have been arraigned before the Tamale High Court. The hon. Member represents a constituency in Tamale; he should know it. He is deliberately
Papa owusu-Ankomah 12:05 p.m.


misleading this House. What he is saying is absolutely and demonstrably false.
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Tamale North, are you aware that some people have been arraigned before the court?
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want the hon. Minister for the Interior to calm down, have his cool. Some people were indicted in the Tamale court. Now, there is an attempt to bring them down to Accra for trial. We do not know whether they would be tried in Tamale or Accra. The issue is still hanging in the air. Mr. Speaker -- [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Order!
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, at least,
the trial has not commenced. Unless the hon. Minister for the Interior is telling me that the trial of the murderers of Issa Mobila has commenced, as far as I am concerned, there is nothing going on.
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Tamale North, the question to you was whether you are aware that some people have been put before a court for the murder of this man.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, as far as I am aware, some people have been placed before a court on temporary charges in Tamale. In any case -- [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Continue.
An hon. Member: You are a lawyer.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am not just a lawyer; I am a former prosecutor, if they do not know. I am a very senior lawyer and I know -- [Uproar.]
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Tamale North, you address the Chair; do
not be distracted.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am really grateful. So we do not know whether they are being tried in Tamale, Kumasi, Ho, Cape Coast or Accra. And we do not know whether the charges would be amended or not because the trial per se has not started. Mr. Speaker, so the murder of the Judges -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Kwame osei-Prempeh -- rose
-- 12:05 p.m.

Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member, do you have any objection to raise?
Mr. osei-Prempeh 12:05 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is interesting that the hon. Member speaking is not only a lawyer but a former prosecutor as he himself claims. He knows that and he admits that people have been indicted and they have been arraigned before court. He knows the procedure for indictment and therefore if the process has started and he stands on the floor of this House and says that nothing has been done to them, Mr. Speaker, he is not only deceiving himself, he is being dishonest intellectually and deceiving the whole public. He must withdraw that -- [Hear! Hear!]
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Tamale North, you have admitted that some persons have been placed before the courts; you have admitted that; have you not?
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. I have admitted that one. My concern is also that, maybe, he does not know that the charges can be amended at any time before the trial process or even during the trial, maybe he does not know that. So, my hon. Friend cannot teach me my work here.
Mr. Speaker, in any case, I am saying
that in the case of the Judges and the
Mr. osei-Prempeh 12:05 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Friend is missing the point. The essence of this Statement and of the celebration is that these people were considered to be martyrs. A martyr is somebody who dies for a cause for which he believes in. They were judges performing their duties and they were murdered. Anybody comparing this to any other killing or anything is like comparing apples and oranges. The person is either being mischievous to divert attention or trivialising the issue, Mr. Speaker. They all involve human rights, but we say that it is not everybody who is killed and for which somebody is tried becomes a martyr and whose killing must be celebrated. So what they are doing amounts to trivialising the issue. They must bear in mind the fact that that issue is a distant one in our history and anybody who tries to trivialise it is doing himself and this nation a great disservice and he must refrain from that.
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Tamale North, I hope you are winding up.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, I am winding up. But, I am compelled to make a statement or to correct the impression that is being created by the hon. Member. Is he saying that one human life is better than another human life? [Uproar.] Is that what he is saying?
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Tamale North -- [Uproar] -- Order! Order! Order!
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, is the hon. Member implying that the murder
of the Ya-Na and the 40 others is trivial?
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Hon. Member for Tamale North, please resume your seat. [Pause.] Hon. Members, it is very necessary that we observe decorum in this House. Whatever be the provocation, I do not think it lies in your mouth to interact in that way that you did. Please, I hope that this sort of thing would not happen again.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
I am sorry, Mr. Speaker, that I lost my cool a bit after advising my very good Friend, the Minister for the Interior to calm down. But, Mr. Speaker, the impression I got -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Be cheerful and continue and wind up.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. But he cannot call the murder of the Ya-Na trivial. I think he ought to withdraw that portion of his contribution.
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Please!
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
You cannot call it trivial. [Interruptions.]
Mr. osei-Prempeh 12:05 p.m.
I never said so.
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Order!
An hon. Member: Who said that?
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Order! Hon. Member, please wind up.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would continue from there.
Mr. Speaker 12:05 p.m.
Wind up, please.
Alhaji Abukari 12:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the case of the three Judges and the retired
Major, five people were indicted, tried, and a member of the ruling council of the day executed. In the case of Ya-Na and the others, nothing has been done to anybody so far. There is no evidence and we the people of Dagbon and the whole country are being asked to produce the evidence; that until we produce the evidence, nothing can be done.
Mr. Speaker, I am saying this because I want the whole country to learn from our past mistakes. I want the whole country to begin to respect the lives of individuals. Whether they are judges or farmers, fishermen or anybody, no life is better than another life. We are all equal before God. We are all human beings and we all have blood flowing in our veins.
So Mr. Speaker, with this contribution, I would want to wind up by telling our fellow countrymen and women that we should learn from those two incidents and learn that never again should such murders occur in this country of ours called Ghana.
Mr. A. o. Aidooh (NPP -- Tema West) 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am happy to be able to associate myself with this very important Statement. I want to also place on record my congratulations to the Ghana Bar Association for their initiative in celebrating this day at a time when even the Bench was against this celebration. Mr. Speaker, I understand why the Bench could not join the celebration because the act we are talking about was the greatest assault on the independence of the Judiciary.
Mr. Speaker, the kidnapping and murder of the three High Court Judges and the retired Major defies all attempts at figuring out how any Ghanaian could conceive such an act, plan it and execute it. Mr. Speaker, this act shocked the
Mr. A. o. Aidooh (NPP -- Tema West) 12:15 p.m.


consciences of all Ghanaians and in fact it hurt the soul of our nation. I am therefore not surprised that Ghanaians of all political persuasions condemned the act.

Mr. Speaker, even the Provisional National Defence Council (PNDC) Government at the time was quick to distance itself from the act. It has brought eternal shame not only to the direct families and executors of this dastardly act, Mr. Speaker, it has also brought shame to their families and the relations that would grow after them.

Mr. Speaker, I want to make just two quick points. One, Mr. Speaker, it is my view that this event we are talking about and which was sent before the National Reconciliation Commission (NRC) did not and does not belong to the NRC. If you look at section 3 of the Act, we have the office of the NRC and it does not include what my hon. Colleague from the former PNDC Government has appropriately described as a plain criminal act; more than that. There is also provision or the entrenched clauses of the Constitution which exempt executive, legislative and judicial acts of the PNDC or for that matter the PNDC from judicial scrutiny.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, for purposes of the records I just want to
Dr. Kunbuor 12:15 p.m.


correct an impression that my hon. Colleague has created in relation to transitional provisions, with regard to whether the transitional provisions provide for judicial, executive or legislative acts. It goes further to add purported acts. They might not be judicial, executive or legislative but as to whether they are purported or not is an issue that we need to take into consideration; just for the records.
Mr. A. o. Aidooh 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, purported acts must be acts that purportedly were executive, judicial or legislative. That is it.
Mr. John Tia 12:15 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr.
Speaker, I think the hon. Deputy Leader is misleading this House. At least, it is on record that a committee was set up, five people were found out to be the perpetrators of that act and they were tried and then executed. If he is now saying that all people connected with the act must be prosecuted, then if he has any information or any evidence more than what has taken place already, he should bring it out. Otherwise, to assume that there are some people who were connected when we do not know them by the process is something that is misleading. So he should correct himself.
Mr. A. o. Aidooh 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thank my hon. Colleague for that suggestion. I was saying that all persons connected must be prosecuted even as we forge ahead to reconcile with each other and forgive ourselves for this shameful act.
Mr. Speaker, what lessons do we learn from this? Mr. Speaker, I have read a piece of the Executive Summary of the NRC Report and as somebody in politics, I know how transient political power can be. If I may quote from page 186 of the NRC Report, column 5.7.5.15 and with your permission, I beg to quote:
“A few hours before Amartey Kwei's execution, a prayer meeting was held for him at Nsawam Prisons. According to Sqn. Ldr. George Tagoe, in the course of the meeting, Kwei made a statement about his role in the whole sordid affair. Speaking in the Ga Language, Kwei said --”
Mr. Speaker, he said, and I quote again 12:15 p.m.
“I have done a wrongful act. I have done a wrongful act.
I am a civilian; Flt. Lt. Jerry John Rawlings and Kojo Tsikata and I planned the operation. We planned to arrest the Judges who had opposed the Revolution. Capt. Kojo Tsikata was the mastermind for the operation. Kojo Tsikata and Flt. Lt. Jerry John Rawlings appointed me as a member of the Provisional National Defence Council Government; as a result, whatever instructions they gave me, I am compelled to obey. I have done a wrongful act.
I have done a wrongful act. They instructed me to supervise the operation because the boys were aggressive and indisciplined. They instructed me to ensure that everything went on smoothly according to plan. I have done a wrongful act.
I have done a wrongful act. I, a civilian, selected the retired Army Officer and Flt. Lt. Jerry John
Mr. Speaker, he said, and I quote again 12:15 p.m.


Rawlings and Kojo Tsikata selected the three (3) Judges. I have done a wrongful act.

I have done a wrongful act. Captain Kojo Tsikata organised the whole operation. He was the National Security advisor. He was in charge of national security. I have done a wrongful act.

I have done a wrongful act. God forgive me. I should not have done what I did. What I was ordered to do was wrongful, yet I carried out the instructions. I have sinned, I beg for forgiveness, I have sinned.”

Mr. Speaker, I thank you.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDc -- Tamale South) 12:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity to associate myself with the Statement on the floor which has to do with the tragic murder of three High Court Judges and a retired Major of our Military. Mr. Speaker, undoubtedly, the incident and event of 1982 was a callous act of savagery, an affront to the rule of law, an affront to the delivery and administration of justice. I am encouraged that indeed our Judges have not been cowed and since the incident they have tried to deliver justice without fear or favour.
Mr. Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Oder!
capt. Effah-Dartey (rtd.): On a

Mr. Speaker, my hon. Friend was not in the House when we were arguing on the National Reconciliation Commission Bill and even when we passed the Bill here, His Excellency the President decided to -- In fact, the Commission itself decided to start from 1957. So when my hon. Colleague says “we had an agenda”, Mr. Speaker, I do not know what agenda he is talking about. So he must withdraw that expression because he is creating a dangerous situation. There was absolutely no agenda apart from reconciling the nation -- [Interruptions] -- and so Mr. Speaker, I invite him to withdraw that expression that we had an agenda. We did not have any agenda apart from reconciling the nation. That is all -- [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, your objection is to the use of the word “agenda”. You know an agenda can be a good one or a bad one and so that is it. So please, hon. Member, continue.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the agenda of the National Reconciliation Committee (NRC) included the following -- Firstly, it was to make complete historical account of human rights abuses and atrocities over the years.
Secondly, as indicated in the Act establishing the Commission -- “to make recommendations to prevent the future occurrences of those abuses”. It is in that context that I said we knew the agenda of the NRC -- [Interruptions.] Mr. Speaker, I proceed -- [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Order! Order! Let him
continue.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have listened to other comments. Indeed, even when the event occurred in 1982, the current President of our Republic was then even a Minister under the Provisional National Defence Council (PNDC). That is why I find it encouraging, the comments made by the hon. Member for Zebilla (Mr. J. A. Ndebugre) that no attempt should be made to create the impression that it was an institutional conspiracy. If indeed it was, then our President today may have been part of the conspiracy and that is where I share his comments.
But Mr. Speaker, what lessons have we learnt beyond the NRC? I see people with some attitude when reference is made to the murder of Ya-Na and Issa Mobila. As recent as just this weekend, a citizen of Ghana in Bawku by name Yahuza, a bank official was murdered in cold blood. He lived close to the police within Bawku. Indeed, it is alleged that it was armed robbers, but nothing was taken from him. I am saying this because the maker of the Statement emphasised the importance of fundamental human rights.
Every Ghanaian is entitled to civil liberties, one of which is the right to life just like the right to life of the murdered judges -- every other Ghanaian. Indeed, our Constitution states that we should avoid discrimination. Therefore, in discussing this, we would continue to make references to people who have been murdered, people who have suffered as a result of abuses, whether people are using institutional structures or not.
The murder of the Ya-Na and the forty others, took three days -- 23rd up to 27th before his murder. Government intelligence failed; the security apparatus
failed. A radio station even in Accra broadcast on the morning of Wednesday gunshots which were to the hearing of the Ghanaian public. We could not save the situation. What are the lessons that would ensure that the Constitution under article 15 which says that the dignity of all men are invaluable?
Mr. Speaker, even as the Ya-Na was
murdered, attempts have been made by the Government to find the perpetrators. We know in law that even those who were carrying his head and limbs, wrong charges were preferred against them. Indeed, even as we speak today, the perpetrators have not been found.
Mr. Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, if it is true that this matter is before the court, I will suggest that you avoid that.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am cautious not to be charged for contempt. I have not gone into the merits of the matter. I am only making reference to an incident of murder which must be of interest as we discuss murders in this country.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I
believe the hon. Member who just spoke is aware that as part of his privileges, Statements made here are privileges and therefore there is no point that he would be charged in court. I believe that we need
to listen to Mr. Speaker's advice, that if the matter is in court, then we should be careful not to attempt to undermine the Judiciary. I think that is what Mr. Speaker is saying.
Mr. Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Hon Member for Tamale South, continue.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you very much. I yield to the hon. Minority Leader.
Minority Leader (Mr. A. S. K.
Bagbin): Mr. Speaker, it is important for us to be properly guided by the rules. It does not necessarily mean, Mr. Speaker, that if a matter is before court, we cannot refer to it. But the reference should be in such a way that we do not fall foul within the law. And I think the hon. Member is stating the sequence and what he was informed. He is not talking about the trial. And Mr. Speaker, this can be found in our Standing Order 93 (1) -- and Mr. Speaker, with your permission I quote:
“Reference shall not be made to any matter on which judicial decision is pending in such a way as may, in the opinion of Mr. Speaker, prejudice the interest of parties to the action.”
Yes. It does not mean we cannot refer to any case pending in the courts. But it should be in such a manner that the interest of the parties will not be prejudiced. That is the issue. And so Mr. Speaker, I think I am just putting it in for clarification.
Mr. Speaker 12:25 p.m.
I am aware of that. I was only reminding the hon. Member, and he conceded that he was only referring to certain portions. I only reminded him.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you very much for your guidance. I will stay off that matter. But following the murder of the three Judges and the Major, an investigation was conducted.
Mr. Speaker 12:25 p.m.
Are you winding up?
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am in my concluding paragraph. The murder must be a spur to action. We have embarked on a mission as a country to deepen good governance. That is the only way we can assure Ghanaian citizens of their right to life, their civil liberties, and their fundamental freedoms. They can only enjoy it if we can uphold the democratic journey we have all embarked upon. We all know --[Interruptions.]
Mr. Kofi Frimpong 12:35 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member on the other side of the House is trying to liken the killing of the Ya-Na and the forty others to that of the judges. One would
know that in the case of the High Court Judges, some people were informed of the action after that and so identifying them was not a problem. But in the case of the Ya-Na, a case went on somewhere outside and no one's name was mentioned as being part of the people who took part in the war.

So Mr. Speaker, it is up to them to be able to pinpoint the people who perpetrated the act if they know them. If they do not know them the investigation is going on and it can go on and on until they are found out. So Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member is misleading the House by equating the murder of the Ya-Na and the forty others to the murder of the three High Court Judges and the retired Army Officer. And even the case of the kume preko where five people were killed, the perpetrators were identified but nothing was done to them.
Mr. Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Hon. Member, this is not
a point of order.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
in making the statement I emphasized the universality of murder as a criminal offence; whether it is committed in Dagbon or in Accra or in Kwesimintsim, murder is murder; and it is a criminal offence.
Mr. Speaker, I was making my
concluding remarks that let us be guided by events of the past that never again will we go back to those dark days in our nation's history where the fundamental freedoms and human rights of citizens were taken for granted. I am simply saying that what happened in 1982, subsequent to other murders which have happened today -- I have heard people attempt to describe others as martyrs, I do not know who determines who a martyr is. I consider Alhaji Issa Mobila as a martyr; he died in
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:35 p.m.
a struggle, a political struggle just because of the role he played in an electioneering process.

Minister for Fisheries (Mrs. Gladys

Asmah): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute the Statement on the floor of this House this afternoon. Mr. Speaker, we are grateful to the Ghana Bar Association for the celebration of the Martyrs' Day every year.

Mr. Speaker, mention of the Martyrs' Day always brings back a lot of very sad memories. A week before Mr. Justice Fred Sarkodie-Addo met his death, I was at a meeting with him at the Church of the Most Holy Trinity Cathedral at the High Street. Three days before the death of Mrs. Cecilia Justice Koranteng-Addo, again I was at a funeral with her, the husband and the father.

Mr. Speaker, three days after, she was picked up from her House, murdered and set on fire. And report has it, Mr. Speaker, that she was breastfeeding a three-month old baby when the visitors went to the House. She gave the baby to the husband to continue the bottle-feeding whist she attended to the visitors in the House. Her nine-year-old son was in the living room and asked the mother, “Mother, where are you going?” And she said, “I want to attend to the gentleman, I will be back soon”. That was the end of her life.

Mr. Speaker, at the end of it all, what

did we achieve? My only plea to this

country is that we should never allow such a thing to happen again. A young girl, a baby orphaned at three months; the mother was brutally murdered and set on fire. We thank God she lived and she is still alive today.

Mr. Speaker, it behoves the whole country that we should all allow democracy to thrive so that such a thing never, ever rises up again in this country where innocent people would be picked up from their houses and murdered. Mr. Speaker, we pray that the Good Lord will let them rest in peace and never again should such a thing happen in this country. I thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho (NDc -- Avenor/

Ave): Mr. Speaker, I thank you very much for the opportunity. Mr. Speaker, it is important for all of us in this honourable House to agree that wrong is wrong, irrespective of when it occurred or under which regime that wrong took place.

Mr. Speaker, indeed, the murder of the

three High Court Judges and the retired Major was wrong and must be condemned by this honourable House. Mr. Speaker, we were told that the National Reconciliation Commission was to do away with the culture of impunity so that we as a people will say, “Never again shall we condone or encourage such things to happen again in our dear country”. But Mr. Speaker, it is a pity that after passing through all these processes, we continue on regular basis to witness some of these cases of murder.

Mr. Speaker, this is a very important Statement because of the essence, for me, which is to remind us so that we do not go back to repeat those wrongs of the past. Therefore, we set up the National Reconciliation Commission and all those efforts were put in -- the taxpayers' money -- yet we continue to see wrongs taking place in our dear country -- The case of Mobila, the case of the bodyguard -- Mr. Speaker, if you see the picture

of how the bodyguard of the late Capt. Sankara was killed -- I have had the opportunity of looking at that picture -- Mr. Speaker, you will weep -- [Interrup- tions] Yes. The one who was murdered in Sunyani. Mr. Speaker, I had the privilege of looking at that picture. I had the privilege of looking at the picture of the late Mobila. So Mr. Speaker, I think that Statements such as the one made today should be supported by both sides of the House so that whether we are on this side of the House or that side of the House we can say that, “Never again shall it happen”.
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Mr. Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Majority Leader, are you on a point of order?
Mr. A. o. Aidooh 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I said before I made the statement that for me, the lessons I learnt from the event was how transient power could be and that Amartey Kwei, at the end of day, was speaking this way -- I mean, most impotent -- that is the essence of the reference.
Mr. Adjaho 12:35 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, we hope that in future when such very solemn Statements of this nature are being made to remember the departed souls, it should be such that we observe the rules of this House, the Standing Orders so that it does not provoke debate, because Standing Order 72 is very, very clear -- so that we do not provoke debate. Referring to transitional provisions and all those things as my hon. Friend on the opposite side
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Mr. Speaker 12:35 p.m.
Hon. Majority Chief Whip, do you have any point of order to raise?
Mr. Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:45 p.m.
Exactly so, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague appeals to this House to reconcile ourselves to the essence of the Statement and not politicize it. But he is one person who always refers to “this side of the House”, “we on this side of the House”, and so on and so forth. Indeed, when hon. Kunbuor started his own contribution, and was making references to the unfortunate death of the Ya-Na and forty others and so on, we sought to bring him in line but he decided to go tangential to the issue.

Mr. Speaker, hon. Sumani Abukari decided to chart the same course. What does hon. Doe Adjaho expect this House to do? He is making reference to hon. Ossei Aidooh, the Deputy Majority Leader, without referring to what was done by his colleagues on the other side of the House. Let him be very truthful, honest and sincere in this matter by having that -- Mr. Speaker, it is not the best.
Mr. Adjaho 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I know I have not contravened the rules so I will not respond to him. Mr. Speaker, it is important for the hon. Deputy Majority Leader to know -- and fortunately he was the Chairman of the Committee that worked on this report -- that we on this side of the House stated our position
Mr. A. o. Aidooh 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, irrespective of what my hon. Colleague is saying, the NRC Act is an Act passed by Parliament and we stand by it.
Mr. Adjaho 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am saying and I want to repeat it that we on this side of the House see the NRC report as a discredited report; we see it as a contested report. So Mr. Speaker, the statement is about the -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minority Leader, please exercise patience -- [Laughter.]
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Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
You wait until you are called upon -- [Pause.] Have you cooled down sufficiently?
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Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon. Minister, do you have any point to raise?
Mr. owusu-Agyemang 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, with the utmost of respect, I do not know whether it is proper for my good Friend to stand here and say that he sees the NRC report as a discredited report. In what way has it been discredited? Otherwise, commissions that have been set up, duly constituted, do you think anybody can get up in this House and say that he sees them as discredited reports? I do not think it is proper. I do not think it augurs well. I was beginning to appreciate the point he was making that the debate on this Statement was uncalled for. I have just come from
Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minority Leader, have you finished with your contribution?
Mr. Adjaho 12:45 p.m.
So Mr. Speaker, I believe that the hon. Minister for Works and Housing cannot take our view, in fact, the view of this side of the House from us; and that is our view. That is why I suggested that in future, Statements of this nature on such important occasions, as much as possible we must apply the rules strictly--- and I know you are capable of so doing -- so that we limit our comments.
The rules say that we can only pass comments briefly and that we should not provoke debate in the comments that are made on Statements here. Today, we stand here remembering those who were murdered without any justification, without any charge, to use the word of the Chief Justice, and yet we are trying to provoke debate; we are trying to politicize the issue.
Mr. Speaker, I thank you for the opportunity but I still say that the NRC report is a discredited and a contested report.
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Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
Hon. Member, do you have any point of order to raise? He himself has resumed his seat.
Ms. Tagoe 12:45 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. I want to do some correction. Mr. Speaker, I want to help my “Colonel” -- my Colleague “Colonel” -- I think he wants to use the word “disputed” not “discredited”. It is “dispute” he wants to use, not “discredited”. Because, he has not read the report and the report is not for debate and yet he is saying it is discredited. He had wanted to use the word “disputable”, that is what he really wanted to say. He is my “Colonel” Colleague so I know him very well -- [Laughter.]
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Mr. Speaker 12:45 p.m.
You have resumed your seat, I will call you later. But in the meantime I will give the floor to the Second Deputy Speaker.
Alhaji Malik Alhassan Yakubu (NPP -- Yendi) 12:45 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would also like to support the Statement that has been made. Mr. Speaker, the news of the murder of the three judges and the retired army officer and the manner and circumstances in which it was done, sent chills through the spines of not only Ghanaians but all people of the world with conscience.
In fact, it really had a very gloomy picture hanging over the country for a long time. And it is in order that this nation, as a nation with a conscience, a nation with morality, should from time to time refer to these incidents. Mr. Speaker, I think it is in perfect order that in the contributions of hon. Members of Parliament one thing that has been consistent is that never again should we have such unfortunate events in our country.
It is also in order, in my view, Mr. Speaker, that hon. Members refer to incidents after the judges' murder to say that we should do everything possible to prevent such things. Mr. Speaker, the case of Dagbon has been cited as one of such incidents which as a nation we should have done everything possible to prevent. Mr. Speaker, I share the views that in the case of the incidents that happened in Yendi that resulted in the death of the Ya-Na and some others and everything connected with it, effort must be made to uncover it.
Mr. Speaker, we should know the actual facts and all these are to prevent similar recurrences. Mr. Speaker, people have often said that the death of the Ya-Na and forty of his elders -- even there the facts are wrong.
Records that were got from the Yendi Hospital have it that thirty-two people died. Mr. Speaker, not more than five of those who were dead were elders of the Ya- Na. Mr. Speaker, a lot of those who died were not from Yendi; they were not elders of the Ya-Na. For that reason they were buried seven miles from Yendi in a village called Sangu but under Dagbon custom nobody will allow a deceased relative to be sent to a foreign place to be buried.
Mr. Haruna Iddrisu 12:55 p.m.
On a point
of order. Mr. Speaker, I am on a point of order because the hon. Member for
Yendi is grossly misleading this House with the statistics that he has given. Indeed, when the Ya-Na was murdered the Daily Graphic, the government public newspaper together with all other statements including the first statement which was issued by the hon. Minister for Tourism now who is privileged to be in this House, directly facing me, admitted that the Ya-Na had died with 40 others. At no point in time had anyone said that all 40 were his elders but indeed it included his elders.
The hon. Member is from Yendi and he knows the composition of the eldership of the Ya-Na. Many of them, with the exception of the Kuga-Na, are gone and therefore it is inappropriate for him to say that the elders were not dead. Apart from the Kuga-Na, I want to know any of his elders who are alive. Mr. Speaker, indeed, it would be useful if he can give this facts to those who want them.
Alhaji M. A. Yakubu 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
Alhaji collins Dauda 12:55 p.m.
On a point of
order. Mr. Speaker, my point of order is that my hon. Colleague in his submission said that it would be proper for the facts about the Dagbon case to be brought out, but it looks like he is proceeding to provide the facts himself and I think it is wrong. If he wants some other bodies to do it, he
Dr. A. Y. Alhassan 12:55 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, I am surprised that my hon. Colleague from Yendi has now agreed to confess before this honourable House about facts with respect to the murder of the Ya-Na. Where was he when the Wuaku Commission was sitting? And why did he not say this to the Commission, a credible commission set up by his own Government to uncover the facts? I think that was part of their responsibility. It would be unfortunate to now address this House with facts on the murder of the Ya-Na.
Mr. Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Are you making a
statement or are you making a contribution? [Uproar.] Order! Order! Are you raising a point of order?
Dr. Alhassan 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, yes, it is
a point of order. The pivot of his argument is that when they say “elders of the Ya-Na” then they must be sort of enskinned by the Ya-Na; but these were all subjects of the Ya-Na, otherwise they would not be found in the palace. And if he knew there were people coming from somewhere to fight in Yendi, why did he not provide these facts to the Wuaku Commission?
Mr. Speaker 12:55 p.m.
This is not a point of order.
Alhaji M. A. Yakubu 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
not only is it not a point of order, the hon. Member is showing a lot of ignorance on what happened. He does not even
Mr. Speaker 12:55 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister
for Energy, are you raising a point of order?
Mr. K. T. Hammond 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
a point of direction and ruling from your goodself. Mr. Speaker, you just indicated that when somebody rises on a point of order we are not supposed to interrupt from another side. Mr. Speaker, if the person who is on his feet is also in the process misleading or giving facts which are completely inaccurate, what do we do from this side? That is the direction I want from the Chair.
Mr. Speaker 12:55 p.m.
We would deal with him

In the meantime, hon. Second Deputy Speaker, wind up.
Alhaji M. A. Yakubu 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
the hon. Member for Tamale South made a very pertinent point and I liked it very much. He said that the finding of the Wuaku Commission that the incident in Yendi was an act of war -- He said that “But in this age who says war is authorized?” I think that was a very pertinent issue.
In 1994 there was this ethnic war in the Northern Region and thousands of lives were lost. All such things, we should seek to take measures that would prevent them. Mr. Speaker, when I raised this Dagbon thing I did so to make an appeal that we would do better for Ghana and Dagbon if we make efforts to resolve conflicts that lead us into situations like this. Mr. Speaker, I am aware that there are individuals who are spending sleepless nights and resources in order
Dr. Alhassan 12:55 p.m.
On a point of order.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member was trying to say that I was ignorant because I said he did not appear before the Wuaku Commission; I said the exact opposite. I said that he appeared before the Wuaku Commission and I do not know why he was not armed with his facts to state them there. So I did not say that he did not appear before the Wuaku Commission; I said he did not appear there with his facts.
Alhaji M. A. Yakubu 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
well, what I did hear him say was that why did I not appear before the Wuaku Commission and say this -- [Uproar]-- In any case I do not enjoy this kind of argument. The second set of facts are even in the Wuaku Commission's Report but people refuse to look at them. People make statements which are at variance with what is in the Wuaku Commission's report, so it is not a question of the facts not being there. The security reports show that there was an armoury -- [Interruption.]
Dr. Kunbuor 12:55 p.m.
On a point of order.
Mr. Speaker, I am actually rising on a point of order because of the peculiar nature of the hon. Second Deputy Speaker's submission. The factual situation is that the evidence of our hon. Colleague before the Commission was given in camera and one understands that there were good reasons why that was done, and it would not be proper for us to be attributing any facts in that report to him that were not made known to the public; and I think that we should veer off that aspect of this issue.
Alhaji M. A. Yakubu 12:55 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
Mr. Speaker 1:05 p.m.
You are winding up?
Alhaji M. A. Yakubu 1:05 p.m.
I am winding
up. We should try to put our heads together and look at all shades of the problem. When we look at the whole thing it is not just leaning towards one side. A lot of people who do not come up when the veil is lifted and then the training of people to go and fight, all those things which came out in evidence will show the true picture of what happened in Dagbon. Meanwhile, Members of Parliament and those of us from Dagbon, particularly should endeavour to help peace talks in our area rather than just referring to it so as to rebuff certain things. That will not help us. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. [Hear! Hear!].
Minority Leader (Mr. A. S. K.
Bagbin): Mr. Speaker, I just want to make a few remarks on the Statement that has been made. Definitely, this Statement is specifically on the brutal murder of the three High Court Judges and the retired Army Officer.
Papa owusu-Ankomah 1:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
it seems as if the hon. Minority Leader, his comments, may be misleading us. I

Yes, that is what he said, and he is expressing regret about this tendency. I do not know whether he is part of that group who are disputing the National Reconciliation Report or he does not hold that view; because the hon. Deputy Minority Leader was referring to “we on this side of the House,” meaning those in the Minority. That is why I am not certain about the purpose of this comment.
Mr. Bagbin 1:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, my hon.
Mr. K. T. Hammond 1:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
on a point of order. The point of order is on the logical sequence of the hon. Minority Leader's argument. He started by criticizing all those people who do not see any merit in any report at all. But the hon. Deputy Minority Leader specifically rose and said that “we”, on the other side reject this particular report. Now, by
logical connotation, Mr. Speaker, that includes him, the hon. Minority Leader who is also saying that he does not accept that. So the hon. Minister for the Interior is asking if he is prepared to disown his friend over there. This is the issue, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker 1:05 p.m.
The Minority Leader to
continue with his argument. Allow him.
Mr. Bagbin 1:05 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, that is the
position we are in now. I think that we as a people have learned a lot from what has happened in this country. At least, we all know that many countries have gone through this kind of traumatic experiences. But it is how they make use of those experiences that show the differences in development. And I think as a country we should learn from our history and not repeat the mistakes of the past.
Yes, it is true that some people, especially those who think they are now controlling State power, are sometimes carried away by these excesses, but it is not something that we the people should encourage. When it comes to condemnation, let us be united in our condemnation of criminal acts. Let us agree that all these things that have been mentioned are brutal murders and that as a House, as an arm of Government, we should be the people that should be championing and supporting the State apparatus to investigate and come out with the truth, if not anything at all, evidence to enable us take action to rectify the wrongs.
But Mr. Speaker, once again, I must say that I was saddened by the debate, especially when people tried to state facts when what they know is that some information has been made available to them and they just want to call them facts. That could not be. Some could be true, some may be exaggerated views of
people who may be present or may have also been informed. So it is important that we refer to credible sources and not just try to state these things as facts. Lunatic fringes abound everywhere. It is how, as a society, we try to contain them -- And I do not expect that in this House we should encourage some lunatic fringes.
Mr. Speaker, I sometimes feel so bad
when I try to put myself in the position of any of the family members. How do they feel? And when we talk this way, how do we remind them of the hurt? Instead of sympathizing with them, instead of trying to, at least, do things that would assuage their suffering, it seems the way we go about these issues is actually adding some more petrol to the fire and making it worse. I do not think that we should go that far.
Mr. Speaker, I hope and pray that next time if a similar Statement is made, the remarks would be different from what happened today. I thank you for the opportunity.
Majority Leader (Mr. F. K. owusu- Adjapong) 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, first let me congratulate the maker of this Statement for making an impartial, purposeful Statement, drawing our attention to that unfortunate act that occurred in 1982.
Mr. Speaker, by the contributions we have heard today, we are being made to believe, by people I can claim as insiders of the then regime, that it was not an institutional activity; that it was not an act of the Provisional National Defence Council (PNDC) as a Government, even though for the moment, we all have on record that one PNDC Member was found guilty as a party to the murder.
Mr. Speaker, I listened to one of the
Mr. Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Deputy Minority Leader, are you up standing?
Mr. Adjaho 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think the hon. Majority Leader is misleading the House. Nobody in this honourable House today stated that the murder of the judges is covered by the Transitional Provisions. Nobody made that statement; so I do not know where he is coming from. Nobody on this floor of the House made that Statement.
Mr. Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Are you yielding to him?
Mr. A. o. Aidooh 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I said that the National Reconciliation Commission (NRC) had no mandate to go into this matter; that the NRC's mandate was limited to events that occurred under the military regimes and which because of these provisions, could not be taken to court. That is it. I took out this event as not being under the Transitional Provisions, so that is where he is coming from.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is good that we get such comments from leading personalities of the House, and it is good it is on record that my Colleague, the hon. Member of Parliament for Avenor- Ave accepts that -- [Interrup-tions.]
Mr. Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Majority Leader, he is the Deputy Minority Leader.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I thought it is also fashionable to occasionally know the constituencies of our Members. I occasionally wish to be referred to as the Member of Parliament for Akim Swedru and -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Hon. Majority Leader, may you resume your seat.
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Mr. Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Are you raising a point of order?
Mr. Adjaho 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, again he is misleading this House. I never said I had taken a position. I only said that nobody in this House stated that the act was protected by the Transitional Provisions. That was the statement of fact I made. As to my personal position on the matter, I have not stated it on the floor of the House. So he cannot attribute something to me that I have not said.
Mr. Bagbin 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think my Colleague has actually gone beyond the limit of the language we use by retorting that this is simple English. I do not think that this is -- he retorted that this is simple English. I do not think that it is fine. Being the Majority Leader, I mean he should be able to control his temper.
Mr. Speaker 1:15 p.m.
Majority Leader, this is the allegation. What do you say to that?
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I used the word “perception” and if I say this is simple English and he thinks that I should not say so, then I withdraw it.
Mr. Speaker 1:15 p.m.
All right, please, continue.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I said the perception in this country, a lingering perception -- [Interruption.]
Dr. Kunbuor 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think the hon. Member is misleading the House. From his contribution, he is the only one that is having this perception and he is the very one that is trying to say that perception is wrong; because he cannot come to this House and speak for the entire country and say it is lingering. It is only lingering around him. So if that is the case, he should say so that it is his perception.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:15 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have always recognized and I always discussed with hon. Doe Adjaho that he is good at speaking English. Therefore, I take it as part of his normal contribution
he makes here. Mr. Speaker, I think we should be bold this time and see whether we cannot go back to the Special Report, because the problem we have with the Special Investigation Report is that there was a slight difference between the recommendations of the Commission and the decision of the then Attorney-General.
That is what starts the problem and I believe that as a House, as we go along with it, we should be able to see whether it is not time for us to set the records straight by going back to the Special Report to see whether the Attorney-General at that time was right or there is something more that is required to be done.
Mr. Bagbin 1:25 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, actually, my standing up seems to have brought my hon. Colleague on the other side in line. This is because I thought his intervention would have been reconciliatory and bringing both sides together. But when he started dwelling on going back to a Special Investigation Board's Report; you know he is also talking about people going to the National Reconciliation Commission Report. And I am saying that we should learn as a country to go by these things.
If he wants anything to be reopened, then we can do so because even in the Special Investigation Board's Report, people were -- [Interruption.] It is a point of order because he is losing the sense.
Mr. Speaker, this led to the trial, conviction and execution of other people. In the next report, there is no such thing and yet people are saying we should go back to that last report, by not accepting that we should go back to the present report. And others are saying we should go to the present report and do not go back to the last report and I think that is wrong. I think this is the debate, the comments on this House and that is what happened. Mr. Speaker, I think he should not further that line of this thing -- he should rather try to reconcile the two positions.
Mr. Speaker 1:25 p.m.
The Majority Leader is about to conclude, I am sure.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I am not too sure whether the hon. Minority Leader was really making a point of order. It is good you have permitted him to make further contributions to the statement -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Majority Leader, I cannot determine whether it is a point of order unless I have listened to the conclusion. This is the point.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, as I was saying, this particular Swas meant only for the three Judges and the retired Major. And I would have wished that we had not extended it to any other event. And I was only trying to allude to the fact that by extending it, you also would want people then to remember other murders. And that was why I started with other chiefs, queenmothers, like the Ofuman case, like the Ankaase case, like the Nkoranza Chief's case, so that we may be able to do just like they did.
The other day when we had the opportunity of listening to the tribute paid

to our late brother Mr. Victor Selomey, I advised -- and I am happy we all accepted it -- that after it, we possibly do not say much. We have reached a stage where we should do things that will always reconcile us and in doing that, if we begin to set more and more examples, then definitely, we are then going to have problems. This is because if we become selective, others would also want to come in.

Mr. Speaker, we still have to send our condolences to the bereaved families, their friends and also to congratulate the Ghana Bar Association and to some extent the professional body at that time which played a major role in getting this event instituted.

Mr. Speaker, thank you.

MoTIoNS

Fourth Annual Report of the Third Session of the Fisheries commission

chairman of the committee (Dr. Matthew K. Antwi): Mr. Speaker, the Report of the Parliamentary Select Committee on Food, Agriculture and Cocoa Affairs was laid on the Fourth Annual Report of the Third Session of the Fisheries Commission, January- December, 2003 on Tuesday 28th June,

2005.
Mr. Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Majority Leader, item 5 -- Are we going on with it or -- [Interruption.]
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker. the impression I had was that there was going to be some withdrawal or something like that and that is why -- [Interruption.]
Dr. Antwi 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, that is why I had wanted to talk on the withdrawal before I get your permission to move the motion. But then -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Chairman of the
Committee, if you want to withdraw it say so and let us go on.
Dr. Antwi 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this honourable House adopts the Report of the Committee on Food, Agriculture and Cocoa Affairs on the Fourth Annual Report of the Third Session of the Fisheries Commission covering the period of January - December, 2003.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, it looks like the brief we had on the matter that I believe we discussed seems to be the same. So I would suggest that we step this item down to enable the Chairman to consult the Whips and maybe, the Leadership on the subject for it to be represented at another time. This is what I would want to suggest that we do now.
Mr. E. K. D. Adjaho 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am raising a point of order because the Chairman has already moved for the adoption of the Report. So he should respond.
Mr. Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Let us defer this matter.
Mr. owusu-Adjapong 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, that this House do now adjourn till next week Tuesday, 5th July 2005 at 10.00 in the morning.
Mr. John Mahama 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, before I second the motion, I would want to crave your indulgence -- There was a controversy that arose yesterday during my comments on the APRM Report. I made a statement that there had been a deliberate increase in the number of Supreme Court Judges in order to adjudicate the issue of Tsatsu Tsikata versus The Attorney- General. Mr. Speaker, at the time, I was pressed to provide evidence. I have in my hand at this moment the press release that I referred to that was issued by hon. Obetsebi-Lamptey who was the -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 1:25 p.m.
Hon. Member, this
matter which you are raising, I think we should have discussed it before raising it at this stage. You may have to come properly.
Mr. Mahama 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, yes. I respect that view very much and that is why I was craving your indulgence.
Mr. Speaker 1:25 p.m.
But I was not aware this was what you were going to say. Please, come properly. There is a motion on the floor that we should adjourn.
Mr. Mahama 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I just want to formally say that I have the evidence we talked about.
Mr. Speaker 1:25 p.m.
You may come properly.
Mr. Mahama 1:25 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I beg to second the motion for adjournment.
Question put and motion agreed to.
ADJoURNMENT
  • The House was accordingly adjourned at 1.30 p.m. till 5th July 2005 at 10.00 a.m.