Debates of 12 Mar 2008

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Mr. Speaker 10 a.m.
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Question number 1408 -- hon. Francis Yaw Osei-Sarfo, Member of Parliament for Krachi West?
Mr. H. F. Kamel 10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member has had to attend to a very urgent business in the constituency and has asked me to seek your permission to ask the Question on his behalf.
Mr. Speaker 10 a.m.
Permission granted.
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 10 a.m.

MINISTRY OF FISHERIES 10 a.m.

Minister for Fisheries (Mrs. Gladys Asmah) 10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Volta Lake and its environs play a very important role in the fisheries sub-sector of the country's economy. With a surface area of 8,500 km2, the lake yields an estimated 75,000 metric tonnes of fish each year, a significant contribution to the nation's total domestic fish production of about 400,000 metric tonnes. It provides direct employment for over 80,000 fishers, operating from about 1,230 fishing
villages along the 5,200 km shoreline.
Mr. Speaker, the steps being taken to revamp the fishing industry in the Volta Lake and its environs include the following:
As far back as 1989, a Community Fisheries Complex (CFC) comprising sheds for fish marketing, storage facilities for smoked fish, Chorkor ovens for re- smoking of fish and a lorry park was constructed at Yeji, but was not fully used. Management of the complex has now been handed over to the Pru District Assembly to inject efficiency and ensure maximum utilization of the numerous facilities available at the centre.
Mr. Speaker, the Monitoring, Control and Surveillance Division of the Ministry in collaboration with Ghana Navy has intensified naval patrols to monitor and prevent the use of illegal fishing gears on the lake to ensure responsible fishing.
The concept of Lake Management Committees, which allows for efficient management of fishery resources has been introduced in the Asuogyaman, Kpandu and Jasikan Districts of the Volta Region to increase fish production in the districts.
A Sustainable Fisheries Livelihood Programme (SFLP) has also been piloted in these same districts under which alternative livelihood programmes have been provided to the fishers in order to ease pressure on the fish stocks in the lake area while a centre for the training of artisans in the construction of fishing and transport boats has been established to provide the right type of boats for fishing on the Volta Lake.
Mr. Speaker, in collaboration with
Mr. Kamel 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister said that management of the community fisheries complex has been handed over to the Pru District Assembly to achieve efficiency and maximization of the facility. I want to find out from her what has been the impact ever since this facility was handed over to the Pru District Assembly.
Mrs. Asmah 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, last year I visited the complex with the District Chief Executive, the chief and some people from the town. If you look at the facility that is not being used, it was really sad and their problem was electricity, which we started working on for it to be provided so that they would be able to use it and I believe by this time it has been provided.
Mr. Kamel 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the GIFT project which the hon. Minister is talking about, I want to know when this project will actually take off.
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
Hon. Member, which project are you referring to?
Mrs. Asmah 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Genetically Improved Farm Tilapia called GIFT is a fish that grows to be half a kilogram within four months. You would be surprised to know Mr. Speaker, that the tilapia in China which made
the Chinese to become the number one producers of tilapia in the world was taken from the Volta Lake here in Ghana. And since the Ministry was established I have been hammering on this particular point that if they have succeeded with theirs they should come and help us do the same. So FAO had a workshop here and the document that came was that countries along the Volta Lake must have that facility.
We cannot bring in the Asian GIFT tilapia but we would develop tilapia that would fit our waters and as a result only yesterday, the FAO sent me a letter that we should nominate a focal point and a team to work with this so that we would start working on this particular project. It is a very good one and Mr. Speaker, we are working on it very closely.
Ms. Akua Sena Dansua 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister mentioned Kpando Torkor as one of the few safe landing sites that were constructed when the Volta Lake was constructed in 1964. I would like to know from her what steps she is taking to revamp Kpando Torkor, because the landing site has deteriorated so rapidly that the facility is no longer of use to the people as they thought it should be. I want to know from her what steps they are taking to revamp the Kpando Torkor landing site.
Mrs. Asmah 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I know my hon. Colleague will ask a question about Kpando Torkor and I want to assure her that once we have started we would continue. The Ministry wishes that every place that fishing activity is carried on should have somewhere safe they can land and go to sea. As a result, we are working very closely on this and once we have started the two, Gemeni and Tepa Abotoase would be done and I know the Kpando Torkor one, because of
Ms. Dansua 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to know from the hon. Minister what guarantee she would give to Ghanaians that the tilapia that would be produced under the GIFT project would be as tasty as the original tilapia that we know.
Mrs. Asmah 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to assure my hon. Colleague that they would be just as tasty as the one we have now because they would be in the same surroundings, the same water, the same soil and only that they grow faster, that is all. They would be just as tasty, I can assure her.
Mr. Albert Abongo 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister said that the Ministry was encouraging entrepreneurs to invest in cage fish culture. I would like to know from her how her Ministry is facilitating this.
Mrs. Asmah 10:10 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, since we started sensitizing people on aqua culture, we have had series of workshops and the first one that we had that was in April 2005, some of my hon. Colleague Members of Parliament here participated and we gave tilapia lunch here so that we would all be sensitized to know what tilapia is and what we can do with tilapia in the country. As a result, many people have been coming to us asking for the way and direction and we have been telling them. Most of the people have gone to their banks and have moved into the lake in cages. There is one at Dodi Asantekrom that has been there for about eight years.
There is another one that has just moved onto the lake. I have documents in my office right now; a Ghanaian
entrepreneur and a past national best farmer with two Danish entrepreneurs are going to have a three-hundred acre farm on the Volta Lake. Anybody who is interested comes to the office to seek for direction and we give them. So I can assure my hon. Colleague that many people are getting into it and I would plead with him to also start because it is a very good area for our retirement.
Mr. Speaker 10:10 a.m.
Minister for Fisheries, thank you very much for coming to answer the Question; you are discharged.
Minister for Local Government, Rural Development and Environment? Question number 1357 -- hon. Joe Danquah, Member of Parliament for Tain.
MINISTRY OF LOCAL 10:20 a.m.

GOVERNMENT, RURAL 10:20 a.m.

DEVELOPMENT AND 10:20 a.m.

ENVIRONMENT 10:20 a.m.

Mr. Danquah 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister stated that an amount of GH¢200,000 has been earmarked in the Assembly's supplementary budget for 2008. Mr. Speaker, the supplementary budget for Assemblies are usually drawn on the District Assemblies Common Fund (DACF) and I am aware the DACF for 2008 has not been approved of by this august House. May I know where the hon. Minister had that GH¢200,000.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is true that supplementary budgets are submitted to the District Assemblies Common Fund Administrator before he releases the money but Assemblies which are forward-looking, looking at previous votes they get from the District Assemblies Common Fund Administrator, come out with rough estimates so that immediately the fund is released or get to know the real amount, it does not take much time for them to submit the supplementary budget.
So I can assure the hon. Member that the Assembly has really programmed this market project for 2008 and they are hoping to use the District Assemblies Common Fund for it.
Mr. Danquah 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am a member of the Tain District Assembly and I do not think we have ever approved of this amount in any budget. Mr. Speaker, I am not comfortable with the Answer. Mr. Speaker, the Question is, what the Ministry is doing to construct the Nsakaw market. As for the district, I am aware for now they do not have any programme for
the market.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, if we look at the Legislative Instruments which set up the Assemblies, construction, maintenance and the upkeep of markets fall within the purview of the Assemblies. I think what the hon. Member is demanding is support. The Ministry would support when we see that they have started their project and they are financing and they have come to a position where we find out that there is the need to support the project.
Kpando District (Municipal Status)
Q. 1361. Ms. Akua Sena Dansua asked the Minister for Local Government, Rural Development and Environment why Kpando District, one of the oldest and biggest District Assemblies in terms of size and population, had not been raised to a municipal status or split into two for efficient and effective administration.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, Kpando District Assembly used to be one of the biggest District Assemblies in terms of size and population and in order to ensure efficient and effective administration it was split into two in 2004. The South Dayi District Assembly was curved out of the Kpando District Assembly.
Mr. Speaker, as a one constituency district, Kpando District was not split into two in the recent exercise since the Electoral Commission was not ready to increase the number of constituencies for the 2008 elections.
With regard to raising the status to municipality, due consideration would be given at the appropriate time.
Ms. Dansua 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to know from the hon. Minister when that appropriate time is, because he says that due consideration would be given to it for
elevation into a municipal status. When is the due time?
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, creation of districts and elevation of some districts to Municipal and Metropolitan Assemblies is a continuous process and therefore, we do not have a specific timeframe. We see it as a dynamic process and therefore, at the appropriate time it would be raised.
Ms. Dansua 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to know from the hon. Minister what factors went into the creation of the recent municipalities.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, a lot of factors were taken including population and then also viability.
Ms. Dansua 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to tell the hon. Minister that Kpando District is still a very big district in terms of size and population and having said that, I would like to know from him when the Assembly would be split into two districts or elevated into a municipality.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think I have earlier answered this. Kpando District as it stands now is a one constituency district and by law, each District Assembly has a Member of Parliament (MP) as one of the members of the Assembly. So we cannot escape that. And by law also, nobody can belong to two District Assemblies.
So to split Kpando District Assembly into two now would mean either one of the newly-created Assemblies from Kpando District would not have a Member of Parliament (MP) as a member, which is not permitted by both the Constitution and then Act 462 or the sitting MP would have to belong to the two District Assemblies, which is also not permitted by Act 462.
Mr. J. A. Tia 10:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to know from the hon. Minister whether he would consider, with the background information that he has about the size of that district, proposing to the Electoral Commission to split the district into two constituencies the next time that he is carrying out any exercise.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Electoral Commission (EC) is independent but when it comes to matters of this nature, if the Ministry at that time is also ready to create more districts, there is a link between the EC and the Ministry so that at least, they resolve as to which constituency they want to split into two. That time those constituencies, if they are so to be raised as districts, that can be done.
Mafi Kumase, Battor and Adidome Markets (Construction)
Q. 1391. Mr. J. K. Gidisu asked the Minister for Local Government, Rural Development and Environment what plans were in place to construct the Mafi Kumase, Battor and Adidome markets.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the North Tongu District Assembly awarded the contract for the construction of the Mafi Kumase market to Messrs Criffpan Company Limited on 16th May, 2006 at a
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to state that even the Answer of the hon. Minister, if subjected to close scrutiny will reveal a lot distortions. The hon. Minister in his Answer said that three months after the start of the work, the contractor left the site. Though he did not explain the reasons, it emanates from the point further that there was the need for a review, which pushed the project almost 100 per cent above the initial cost, and this was approved by the Assembly on 10th October, 2007, which means that it was at that time that the contractor went back to the site.
And from October to this hour, the contractor again left the site on 22nd February 2008, and within this period, according to the hon. Minister, six out of the nine sheds had been completed.
Mr. Speaker, I just want to tell the hon. Minister that this is a contradiction of the situation on the ground because just two weeks ago, I had cause to write to the District Chief Executive to summon an emergency site meeting at the place. And I want to say that this is not the situation that the market under reference has not reached the stage that the hon. Minister is describing in his Answer that six out of the nine stalls had been completed, and the amount paid was GH¢87,100 --
Mr. Speaker 10:30 a.m.
Hon. Member, do you
have any supplementary question? This is not a supplementary question.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am trying to give a background to the situation before, which contradicts the situation of the -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 10:30 a.m.
Hon. Member, you are
not allowed to debate.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, why should the payment of GH¢87,100 which is far above the initial cost of the project be paid when in fact not even half of the work on the market had been completed?
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the market in question was a carry over project from the Village Infrastructure Project (VIP) which was taken over by the Community Based Rural Development Project (CBRDP). And the CBRDP gave block grants to all the Assemblies nationwide which were taking part in that project. The block grant for the Assembly in question was one billion, one hundred and sixty-one million, four hundred and thirteen thousand, five hundred cedis (¢1,161,413,500) at that time.
The Assembly after handing over that project to CBRDP, there was the need for reappraisal. The contractor realized that what was to go in was not what the original Assembly project was to be. So that was why the contractor even left the site, and therefore, it called for a review. And when it was reviewed, the Assembly applied that there was the need for additional ¢400 million. But the CBRDP advised that since the Assemblies were given block grants there was no more amounts to be allocated for the project, and therefore, the Assemblies should top it up with their
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the contractor had not completed even half of the project under reference and I am saying that they had paid him GH¢87,100.00 as noted by the Minister. How come this particular payment which does not reflect work on the ground, because I was there just about three weeks ago.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, certificates were raised by the contractor at various times to the Assembly and the Assembly honoured the payment. Mr. Speaker, if you look at the project, we have not said that he has completed six, but we said he had roofed six and he was waiting to get the necessary roofing sheets to roof the remaining three. Therefore, for the hon. Member to say he has completed six, that is not what I have said this morning.
Mr. Speaker, if the project after the revision is about ¢1.16 billion and ¢821,000 has been paid, it goes around about 50 per cent or so. But my information on the ground is that 60 per cent of the work has been done.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Minister whether the Battor and Adidome markets are part of the outstanding projects as he noted from the VIP Projects and if so, why is he now talking about drawing when they are also outstanding projects which ought to
Mr. Speaker 10:40 a.m.
Hon. Member, please one supplementary question.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Minister whether the Battor and Adidome markets are also part of the outstanding projects from the
VIP.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my information from the district did not indicate that it was part of the VIP project. In any case, I have said it this morning that when Community Based Rural Development Project decided to take over all these projects, block grants were given. So it is not a question of having exhausted what you have and coming in for more. So if the Mafi-Kumase one was selected to be financed with the CBRDP block grant then I am afraid the Battor and Adidome ones will have to go through a different funding.
Mr. Charles S. Hodogbey 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my question relates to Battor and Adidome markets. I would like to know the cost estimates for these two markets. What is the cost estimate for the two markets?
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I will need notice.
Mr. Speaker 10:40 a.m.
Question No. 1409 -- Hon. Prince Jacob Hayibor, Member of Parliament for Hohoe North?
Mr. Charles S. Hodogbey 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member is in his region for special assignment but he has asked me to ask the Question.
Mr. Speaker 10:40 a.m.
Permission granted.
Elected Parliamentary Candidate (DCEs)
Q. 1409. Mr. Charles S. Hodogbey (on behalf of Mr. Prince Jacob Hayibor) asked the Minister for Local Government,
Rural Development and Environment why District Chief Executives who had been elected as Parliamentary candidates should still be at post considering the fact that the District Assemblies are non-partisan institutions.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, both the Constitution of the Republic of Ghana and the Local Government Act, 1993 Act 462 clearly spell out that the position of the District Chief Executive shall become vacant if --
a) a vote of no confidence, supported by the votes of not less than two- thirds of all the members of the District Assembly is passed against him; or
b) he is removed from office by the President; or
c) he resigns or dies.
Mr. Speaker, as can be seen from above, none of these two enactments governing decentralization has stated that a District Chief Executive should not be at post if elected to contest for a parliamentary seat.
Mr. Hodogbey 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, my first supplementary question is, I know it is an internal arrangement between his party, the New Patriotic Party (NPP) and for that matter, they have asked all District Chief Executives trying to stand as Parlia-mentary candidates to either chose between standing or step down. My question is, why that same internal arrangement could not be placed on all District Chief Executives?
Mr. Speaker 10:40 a.m.
Hon. Member, ask another question; it is not supplementary.
Mr. Hodogbey 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to know as the Minister stated here that either the District Chief Executives are removed by the President -- Some few months ago, the President asked all those candidates standing as Presidential

aspirants to step down. My question is, can his Ministry not do the same thing to all these District Chief Executives who are at post and using government machinery going round to campaign against other opponents to step down?
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, rightly he said His Excellency the President who appointed the Ministers told them to resign. Similarly, it is the President who appointed the District Chief Executives and by law, we have indicated how the District Chief Executive is removed from office; either he resigns, dies or the President who appointed him removes him. I did not appoint them, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Hodogbey 10:40 a.m.
My last supplementary question Mr. Speaker, is would he be kind enough to recommend to the President the situation on the ground that the District Chief Executives who stand for political position use government machinery and for that reason they should resign their position? Can he be kind enough to make that recommendation to the President using his office?
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, when I become aware of that situation, I will advise His Excellency the President.
Mr. M. T. Nyaunu 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, may I kindly know from the hon. Minister how he will reconcile this position. We know that the District Assemblies are non-partisan. The District Chief Executive is heading the District Assembly and now the District Chief Executive becomes a Parliamentary candidate and takes a ticket for a political party. Mr. Speaker, how will he as a Minister reconcile that position and still maintain that it is non-partisan?
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, sometimes it baffles some of us because I know a lot of District Chief Executives
from both sides who knew it was non- partisan but contested to the end. In fact, I think they did not go against any regulation. So I think what is the situation now is also not against any regulation or rule.
Mr. John A. Tia 10:40 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Minister how he will reconcile a directive from the NPP National Executive to District Chief Executives where the NPP ask sitting Members of Parliament to resign their posts if they want to contest the election, with this Answer. I want him to reconcile that position -- [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 10:40 a.m.
Order! Order!
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think it is an internal arrangement done under the party's constitution; they have not removed any DCE. Party decides that if you want to contest you have to satisfy ‘A', ‘B', ‘C', ‘D' and if you do not satisfy, you do not contest.
Mr. John Tia 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to know from the Minister whether from his Answer, he will not carry out an instruction from the party or the President to sack any DCE who flouts this directive of the party.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the party has got a way of vetting candidates and approving them. So if by their internal arrangement, you are a DCE and you are contesting and you have not resigned, it is up to them at the vetting process to approve or disapprove your application to contest the primaries. But that does not mean that we are going to sack the person. It is up to the party to tell that aspirant that he has not complied with the
Mr. Speaker 10:50 a.m.
Question 1419.
District Chief Executives (Election by Universal Adult Suffrage)
Q. 1419. Mr. Henry Ford Kamel (on behalf of Mr. Francis Yaw Osei-Sarfo) asked the Minister for Local Government, Rural Development and Environment what plans the Ministry had to elect District Chief Executives by universal adult suffrage.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, article 243 of the 1992 Constitution states that
“There shall be a District Chief Executive for every district who shall be appointed by the President with the prior approval of not less than two-thirds majority of members of the Assembly present and voting at the meeting.”
Mr. Speaker, as it stands now and until article 243 of the Constitution is amended, my Ministry has no plans for the election of District Chief Executives by universal adult suffrage.
Mr. Kamel 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the Minister whether he will seek or support the amendment of article 243 of the Constitution.
Mr. Speaker 10:50 a.m.
This appears to be clearly a hypothetical question. If you have other questions, please, ask them.
Mr. Kamel 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, is the Minister aware that this was an NPP campaign pledge? Is this position therefore a clear departure from the NPP's position?
M r. S p e a k e r : T h i s i s n o t a supplementary question.
Mr. A. K. Agbesi 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to know from the Minister, as a Member of the NPP and as a Minister appointed under the NPP Administration, whether he is aware that before the NPP came to power, it was the case of the NPP that when they come to power, they will make sure that District Chief Executives are elected and not appointed. Is he aware?
M r. S p e a k e r : T h i s i s n o t a supplementary question.
Question 1433.
Upgrading of Agona Swedru to a Municipal Status
Q. 1433. Mr. John Agyabeng: Mr. Speaker, I beg to seek your permission to withdraw the Question since Agona Swedru has recently been upgraded to a municipality.
Mr. Speaker 10:50 a.m.
Question 1438.
Unit Committees and Area Councils
Q. 1438. Mr. J. K. Gidisu asked the Minister for Local Government, Rural Development and Environment what was being done to make structures such as the unit committees and area councils operate as functional units of the District Assemblies.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the Ministry has recognized that to ensure the efficient functioning of the unit committees and area councils, there is the need to look at the numbers.
In this regard, the Ministry is currently reviewing the laws on the sub-district structures with a view to reducing the number of the unit committees as well as

the membership. It is my hope that when this is brought before this august House, hon. Members will lend their support to ensure that we have functional sub-district structures.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the NPP Government has been in power for almost eight years now and the Minister is saying that they are still working on the situation. How soon is he coming to this House with the revised structures he is talking about?
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, we have got a lot on our hands with regard to decentralization. In fact, we have come to this House with a lot of them including the Local Government Service Act. We are now looking at how to decouple the civil servants from the decentralized depart-ments. It is a dynamic process; it is a process which is ongoing. So at the appropriate time, as soon as the stake- holder meetings are over and we have the blueprint for the committee members to discuss and refine, we will bring it to the House.
Mr. J. K. Gidisu 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to find out from the Minister whether he is telling this House that it is numbers that are paralyzing the effective functioning of the area councils in particular.
Mr. Adjei-Darko 10:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, yes, a lot of the sub-district structures are not functioning because of the large numbers -- first, in terms of the number of sub- district structures that we have and secondly, the membership. We should not forget that even the Assemblymen are not being remunerated and so the sub-district structures are also not being remunerated.
Therefore, if you have such huge numbers involved, it is difficult even
first to compose them. We have about 16,000 units and it is when you have composed these unit committees that you can compose the area councils and town councils because the unit committee members are also part of the area and town councils.
So until you have been able to compose 16,000 unit committees, each of which should have a membership of 15, it is difficult to talk of functional sub-district structures. That is why we are looking at the possibility of getting manageable numbers of unit committees and then also the composition of unit committees to be handy; so that, at least if you want to look at some sort of remuneration, you know you can cater for them.
Mr. M.T. Nyaunu 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, may I know from the hon. Minister if he will agree that the delay in the review of this law is obstructing the deepening of the decentralisation process which is in fact impacting negatively on the development of our various districts?
Mr. Adjei-Darko 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think he asked for my opinion “if I would agree”. I would not agree.
Mr. Speaker 11 a.m.
Hon. Minister for Local Government, Rural Development and Environment, thank you for appearing to answer the Questions. You are discharged.
ATTORNEY-GENERAL'S
DEPARTMENT AND MINISTRY 11 a.m.

OF JUSTICE 11 a.m.

Mr. H. Iddrisu 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want
to find out from the hon. Minister whether Cabinet has not yet given approval to the passage of such a Bill.
Mr. Ghartey 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, as far as I can recollect, policy approval has been given and that is why we are still working on it.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, in the hon. Minister's Answer, reference has been made to discussions going on abroad and locally in respect of the Right to Information Bill. May I know whether the hon. Minister does not consider it appropriate that the better forum would be this august House?
Mr. Ghartey 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think that the hon. Member agrees with me that in the process of preparing a Bill, broad consultations go on with stakeholders as well as with hon. Members of this House. If he can recollect, when the Domestic Violence Bill was being passed, consultations went on -- and he cannot say that if consultations are going on there is anything wrong with it. It will come to the House, they will be involved and be invited to be part of the Justice Crabbe consultations. The report will be discussed with the appropriate committee as well as the others who are specialised in that area and have a special interest, like a number of human rights and civil society organisations.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I want to find out from the hon. Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, whether he is not aware that in the 2005 State of the Nation Address of His Excellency the
Mr. Ghartey 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I usually like agreeing with my hon. Colleague but this is one occasion that I must disagree with him.
It is not being unduly delayed. Very serious concerns have been raised. We are working at them seriously and we have no greater wish than for it to see the light of day.
Mr. Mahama Ayariga 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, observing that the Ministry is having great difficulties carving out a legislation or a Bill on the right to information and observing that to that extent, they have sought both local and international expertise, may I please ask the hon. Minister, specifically, when we should expect a Bill in this House on the right to information?
Mr. Ghartey 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I must say that the observation by my hon. Colleague that we have sought help internationally and locally is not an indication of any difficulty that the Ministry is facing. Indeed, it is a common practice for us to hold broad consultations in Ghana and abroad when we are passing certain Bills, especially in Bills that are du nouveau, as it were, in Ghana. Even in Bills that have been passed in Ghana already, for example the Company's Act, as I speak, we are consulting with experts from New Zealand who are looking at it.
So we are not finding any difficulty. It is not strange. And the process would continue. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to be able to say in my memoirs or in my obituary when I am dead that as Attorney-General and Minister for Justice I piloted the Right to Information
Bill. But I would not because of personal ego or I would not because of personal desire, sacrifice the need for thorough consultations including consultations with the Legal Resource Centre and people like my hon. Colleague opposite to ensure that it comes here as soon as possible.
As I have said, I am committed to the Right to Information Bill and the Government is committed to the Right to Information Bill and it would give me great pleasure to see it passed. But he knows that if wishes were horses beggars would ride. I would plead with them to work with me to ensure that this Bill sees the light of day as soon as possible.
Mr. A. S. K. Bagbin 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, the position stated by the hon. Attorney- General and Minister for Justice seems to have differed from the position stated by the hon. Deputy Minister for Information and National Orientation when this same issue was raised. The position of the hon. Deputy Minister for Information and National Orientation was that the Government has not yet put in place the infrastructure for the storage of information and therefore it would be difficult to process the Right to Information Bill.
That position is different from what the hon. Minister has stated. The hon. Minister is talking about the efforts that have been made and the views that are being collated, that the Commissioner of Statute Law Review is on top and there is much work done in that direction. How can the hon. .Minister reconcile this current position with what the hon. Deputy Minister for Information and National Orientation stated?
Mr. Ghartey 11 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, indeed I have never been asked to reconcile
Mr. Speaker 11 a.m.
Hon. Attorney-General and Minister for Justice, thank you for coming to answer these Questions.
STATEMENTS 11:10 a.m.

Mr. Mahama Ayariga (NDC -- Bawku Central) 11:20 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, once again, very regrettably, the hon. Minister for the Interior is before this House not to announce any significant progress in terms of restoring peace to the Bawku area but to recount his own desperation and the desperation of all of us who are involved in the process of trying to restore peace in the Bawku area.
Mr. Speaker, let me first of all express
our sincere regret at the number of lives that have been lost and we continue to lose as a result of this conflict. Mr. Speaker, especially yesterday the case of those two gentlemen who were going about their businesses and were gruesomely killed by unknown persons, is a very regrettable situation and I, and I believe my hon. Colleagues, condemn these sort of things.
Mr. Mahama Ayariga (NDC -- Bawku Central) 11:30 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, investigations and what
the hon. Minister tells us indicate that it is very probable that armed robbers and criminals are taking advantage of the situation and making the work of progressive forces very difficult. If we observe the pattern of the conflict, there is the tendency to react to almost every incident once one side perceives that the initial action was caused by people from the other side.
Very often because of the pressures, they are unable to carry out a thorough investigation to convince themselves that these are actions of people who do not have the mandate of their side and so they react and their action generates a reaction and a counter action and we continue to have a deteriorating situation.
Mr. Speaker, we can only appeal to everybody in Bawku that when they hear of an attack, when they hear of a death or they hear of somebody who has been harmed, it is very helpful that they take time and investigate and find out exactly what has happened. In my opinion, the best they can do is to report to the security agencies so that they can take the necessary steps to deal with the situation.

Mr. Speaker, the hon. Minister has mentioned that some people are mobilizing in some black “T” shirts, et cetera. We can only appeal to all sides to refrain from any attempt to mobilize themselves in preparation for a conflict. So far, the evidence from both sides shows that nobody is raking in any dividends as a result of this conflict. On the contrary, we are all losing as a result of the conflict in Bawku. Economically, socially and indeed, in everything, we are all losing. Nobody is making any gains as a result of the conflict.

Nevertheless, when I look at the time that the hon. Minister has announced as the curfew hours for Bawku, Pusiga, Zabugu, Binduri, Zoosi and its environs, I regret to say that it is very sad that all these towns find themselves in a situation where they would have to go into their rooms, whether sleeping or not from 3 o'clock p.m.

Mr. Speaker, the practical dictates of our current economic circumstances show that if we consider the several weeks and months in which people have had to go in very early -- the curfew, I regret to say that a lot of hardships have been occasioned to the people of the area financially, economically and indeed socially. And whilst I seek to proceed with caution, I want to plead with the hon. Minister that 3 o'clock p.m. is indeed, too early for a curfew to begin.

The reason why I think that curfew from 3.00 p.m. is not the solution to the problem is that from the hon. Minister's own report, the burning of houses, the invasion of some homes take place during the curfew itself. In deed, the two houses that were burnt the day before yesterday took place between 2.00 a.m. and 3.00 a.m. when people were in their homes during the curfew. It does not seem to me therefore that curfews necessarily are the solution to the problem.

So whilst I know that some amount of curfew would be helpful in terms of the work of the security men who are on the ground carrying out operations to announce 3.00 p.m. before this House is going to impose some excessive burden on the lives of the people. I would have preferred that the hon. Minister reviewed it downwards at least to 5.00 p.m.

If on any occasion, as a result of the exigencies on the ground, the security operatives think that they need to move
Mr. John Ndebugre (PNC -- Zebilla) 11:40 a.m.
Thank you, very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, it is most regrettable that we have returned here today to continue this discourse on the unfortunate occurrences in Bawku. It will now be realized that the hon. Minister's Statement has largely corroborated what I tried to recount yesterday. Now, a few other points that we need to bring up as a result of the Statement --
The first thing is that the two persons who were murdered yesterday are neither Kusasi nor Mamprusi; that is very significant. One is a Hausa and Hausas really are supposed to be coming from Nigeria. And the other one is a Moshie -- [Interruptions.] Now, if it is just coming from Nigeria, we know that Hausa is a major Nigerian ethnic group.
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Mr. Speaker 11:40 a.m.
Hon. Member, do you have a point of order there?
Mr. Ayariga 11:40 a.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, he has made a very serious statement.
Mr. Speaker 11:40 a.m.
What was it?
Mr. Ayariga 11:40 a.m.
That Hausas come from Nigeria. Mr. Speaker, I think that tracing the origin of Hausa does not be help his
Mr. Ndebugre 11:40 a.m.
Well, I concede to the young man. What I meant to say was that the Hausa is not a major ethnic group in the Bawku area as such.
But the important point I was making was that the two persons who were murdered yesterday morning were neither Kusasi nor Mamprusi; one was a Hausa and the other one was a Moshie. The other significant thing is that the one was the son of the Chief Butcher of Bawku and he was on his way across the border to buy cattle to come and transform into meat to serve the Bawku community when he ran into this problem.
Now, the other point that needs to be brought up is that in addition to the two persons who were on their way to Beto when they met their untimely death was a third person who was about accompanying them. Now, when the third person got close to the scene of the murder -- I was hearing this live on Peace FM radio; the third person I am talking about was being interviewed and I heard him in Hausa -- When he got close to the point of the incident, an elderly man advised him not to proceed because his two companions had been killed. He ran back to the community where the three were coming from and raised an alarm, of course, that the two had been killed.
So the youth in that section of the Bawku community definitely became irated and they moved and started firing. And the moment the other sections heard firing from one particular spot, others also started firing.
Sometimes firing not for the purpose of killing somebody but firing so that one frightens people not to come. It is a form of self-defence. One hears some shooting somewhere, so if one has a gun one also fires so that somebody who is minded to come to one's area would be stopped from coming. That is the way I am analyzing it. Then the thing created a lot of confusion in the place and the security personnel moved out quickly to try to bring the situation under control. I think it was in the process that they had this unfortunate confrontation with some of the youth in the place.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to say that as I said at the very beginning, shooting or violence will not stop any problem there. And a lot of work has been done on the matter. So let us resume from where we left off. And when we met at Bolgatanga and signed the communiqué that was widely publicized, we agreed on 13 points. There were six ethnic groups from Bawku who met under the auspices of the Upper East Regional Security Council. We committed ourselves to ensuring free movement of people and goods within the communities.
Now, if we have signed this document that we are going to allow free movement of people and goods, why is it that two persons who are travelling in the normal course of their duties, to buy cattle to come and ply their trade, should be stopped and murdered? It means that we who signed the agreement or the communiqué are not living up to the points that we agreed on.
I am using this opportunity to call on everybody -- Yesterday, I was in contact with the Kusasi group so was I with the Mamprusi. That is why I do not believe that it was an eruption of warfare between
Kusasis and Mamprusis because I spoke to the influential persons of the Kusasis at Bawku on the ground and I spoke to the spokesman of the Mamprusis who signed the communiqué with me. And he confirmed to me and assured me that he made sure that the Mamprusi youth did not go out. It means, as we said earlier, that other ethnic groups who are living in Bawku are compelled to get involved in the conflict. And that means, it is becoming more and more dangerous.
So I am using this opportunity to appeal to all those who committed themselves to the communiqué to remember the points that we agreed on. The first one that I mentioned is that we should allow freedom of movement of people and goods within our community.
We also agreed that the security agencies should arrest all wrongdoers and deal with them on individual basis irrespective of their ethnic group or social status. And I think that the security services are coming into problems with the communities because in fulfilment of this point that we agreed on, when the security services have information that a Kusasi, for example, has created a problem, they are duty bound to go and pick that person and question him. Then, one realizes that the Kusasi people would be grumbling that why should their person be arrested. Meanwhile, we signed an agreement.
When a Mamprusi person is suspected of having committed an offence and he is invited, Mamprusi people would start grumbling and I think that it is in that light that they begin to think that the soldiers and the police may be supporting this group against the other. And when they are doing their duty then they try to open fire on them and that sort of thing. I am using this opportunity to restate that we signed this communiqué and the security services
Mr. Ndebugre 11:50 a.m.
We have a procedure of doing politics in this country. We do not do the politics by opening fire on defenceless persons. So we the leaders, especially stakeholders from Bawku area must try and depoliticize the situation there. The root causes of the problem are there. We have discussed them over and over gain. I do not think we should go and add politics to them and make the matter worse.
So Mr. Speaker, all in all, I would say that the security agencies have acted professionally so far. The hon. Minister for the Interior and his compatriots on the ground, that is the Upper East Regional Security Council and the Municipal Security Council in Bawku have done their level best except that their level best has not been able to bring the situation under normalcy. We are assuring them that we shall continue to co-operate very actively with them, give them all the information so that in the shortest possible time we will bring this very sad state of affairs in Bawku to a quick end.

Mr. Speaker, before I end, I would like to put on record that this morning, I have supplied the hon. Minister for the Interior with documents that can assist him to get to the bottom of this matter and I am

appealing to him not to, by mistake mix the documents with other documents that are very many on his table, and try to look at them meticulously.

I believe that if he looks at them and advises the President adequately before the meeting tomorrow and possible subsequent meetings that the hon. Member for Bawku Central (hon. Ayariga) called for, we would find a solution to the problem.

Mr. Speaker, with these words, I wish to end but to identify with hon. Ayariga that we are begging, the 16-hour curfew is a bit of a kill. The only other country I realize that had such a curfew was Granada where they had a 24-hour curfew and this is 16 hours. If we look at the Guinness Book of Records, it is likely to be the second to Granada. Mr. Speaker, we are pleading with the hon. Minister, besides he has now widened it; Garu is 18 miles or 30 kilometres from Bawku; Pusiga is about 20 kilometres from Bawku. If he locks these rural people from 3.00 p.m. to 7.00 a.m. the consequences are not only economic. When women and men are forced to sleep for 16 hours you can imagine that there would be an explosion of population.

So Mr. Speaker, we are on our knees begging the Ministry of the Interior to try and look at this thing critically and at least, reduce the hours a bit for us.

With these words, Mr. Speaker, I thank you very much.
Mr. M. A. Awuni (NDC -- Binduri) 11:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you for giving me this opportunity. I also want to thank the hon. Minister for the Interior for his periodic Statements to this august House on the Bawku issue.
Alhaji M. A. Yakubu (NPP -- Yendi) 11:50 a.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to make some brief comments on this grave matter of Bawku.
I have admired tremendously the contributions of the hon. Member for Bawku Central (hon. Ayariga) and the hon. Member for Zebilla (hon. Ndebugre) as well as the hon. Member for Binduri. I have seen that they have displayed abundant maturity and objectivity and this is the way to deal with the crisis. I admire particularly their non-blame game, their support for the security agencies and their encouragement. It is a very positive way to handle this matter.
I think they are able to do this because they have removed emotions from their observation of the situation there and by that way, they have been able to present very objective and very balanced analysis of the situation.
I would like to say that the situation in Bawku should be viewed as a concern of all. It is like the part of the body, when one part of the body is ill, the whole body is affected. It should not be seen as if it was the main concern of the hon. Members from the area. It is a national headache and I would like to say that all of us must show tremendous concern.
I think that the point was made by the hon. Member for Bawku Central, that when there is an incident and death occurs, instead of just emotionally rushing to conclude and do certain acts, there should be circumspection. This means that there is need for education and I think that since this Statement is being made in this House and previous Statements have been made in this House, it means that this House has a duty and an obligation to
Alhaji M. A. Yakubu (NPP -- Yendi) noon
do something very positive in addition to what the Government is doing and what the factions have done in the past in their meeting in Bolgatanga.
I think it would be useful to carry out this education, to point out the destructive nature of conflicts. It would be a good idea if a delegation of this House composed of Members of Parliament from all parts of the country were to go to Bawku to engage the people there in some dialogue of education nature to point out how they should handle the type of situation that the hon. Member for Bawku Central has indicated.

I believe that if the people there see Members of Parliament from all parts of the country, it would send a very strong signal to them that we all care, and that whatever we say to them means that we want a solution to this unfortunate situation. So I appeal that we should not look at it as the main responsibility of only Members of Parliament from the area, but also the House has a responsibility and that we should make a contribution that will have a great impact in bringing peace to the area.

I join them in appealing to the hon.

Minister for the Interior that the curfew beginning from 3.00 p.m. to 7.00 p.m. may be too long in view of the very good reason that hon. Ayariga had given that this is a period of Cerebrospinal Meningitis (CSM) and there are reports of deaths and so you do not compound a situation by imposing a measure that might also exacerbate what is already a bad situation.

So I hope that the Ministry of the

Interior would kindly look at this appeal and consider it. But since it is indicated that a lot of criminal acts have been committed during the curfew hours, if the security can be beefed up, so that their numbers increase and their facilities
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Chairman of the Committee (Nii Adu Mante) 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to present to the House your Committee's Report which is a Joint one.
1.0 Introduction
Mr. Speaker, the Communications Service Tax Bill was laid in the House on 20th February, 2008 and referred to the Joint Committee on Finance and Com- munications for consideration and report in accordance with the Constitution and Standing Orders of the House.
To consider the Bill, the Committee met with the Minister of State at the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning, hon. Dr. Anthony Akoto Osei, Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning, hon. Prof. George Gyan-Baffour, Deputy Minister for Communications, hon. Frederick Opare-Ansah, officials from the Value Added Tax Service, the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning and communications service providers and reports as follows:
2.0 Reference Documents
In considering the Bill, the Committee referred to the following documents:
1. The 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Ghana
2. The National Communications Authority Act, 1996 (Act 524)
3. The Standing Orders of the House
3.0 Object of the Bill
The object of the Bill is to impose a communications service tax on communication service usage charged to consumers by communication service providers who are authorized or licensed or required to be authorized or licensed by the National Communications Authority.
4.0 Contents of the Bill
The Bill contains a total of 16 clauses. Clause 1 imposes a communications service tax. The tax is to be levied on charges payable by consumers for the use of communications service. Clause 2 specifies the persons liable to pay the tax. The rate of the tax is contained in clause 3. Clause 4 mandates the Value Added Tax Service established under section 36 of the Value Added Tax Act, 1998 (Act 546) to collect and pay the tax into the Consolidated Fund. Submission of tax returns and time for payment of the tax are dealt with in clause 5. Clause 6 deals with payment of interest on outstanding tax.
Recovery of tax, interest or penalty due is dealt with in clause 7. The clause empowers the Commissioner to apply to the Court for an order that compels an individual or business to pay to the Commissioner the money owed, or so much of it as is sufficient to discharge the tax, interest or penalty payable and due. Clause 8 deals with distraint for liability and empowers the courts to order the seizure of property where persons owing tax become recalcitrant.
Clause 9 deals with recovery of the tax in respect of a person under liquidation. Clause 10 captures the applicability of sections 29 and 30 and Parts IX and XII
[NII MANTE] of the Value Added Tax Act, 1998 (Act 546) to the management of the tax as regards records, offences, penalties, and related matters.
Clause 11: Objections and appeals. Clause 12 provides for the sufficiency of a certificate issued by the Commissioner as evidence in civil or criminal proceedings. Clause 13 provides for the directives and powers of the Minister responsible for Finance and Economic Planning and the Commissioner of the Value Added Tax Service in the implementation of the tax. Clause 14 empowers the Minister to make Regulations by Legislative Instrument (L.I.) for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of the Act.
Clause 15: Intepretations. Clause 16 seeks to give the commencement date of the Act after Presidential assent through publication in the Gazette.
5.0 Observations
The Committee observed that this tax forms part of efforts by government to widen the tax net in order to increase revenue yield.
The Committee noted that revenue to be accrued from the communications service tax is to be used to support the country's development agenda including employment programmes.
It was further observed that the tax would form part of the charges payable by consumers for the use of communications service and is to be accounted for by the communications service providers to the Value Added Tax (VAT) Service.
Members expressed the need to establish an effective and efficient monitoring mechanism to monitor the systems of the Communications Service Providers in order to track their actual revenues for the purposes of applying the tax.
Officials from the Value Added Tax Service assured the Committee that there is an effective monitoring system in place to determine the amount of tax due for payment.
The Deputy Minister for Finance and Economic Planning also indicated the need for effective monitoring to protect government revenue but also cautioned that care should be taken to ensure that government does not become too intrusive of the business of the operators.
The Minori ty members on the Committee actively participated in the consideration of the Bill. They however, expressed their opposition in principle to the imposition of communications service tax because of its impact on teledensity and mobile penetration.
6.0 Amendments Proposed
The Committee respectfully proposes the following amendments to the Bill:
i. Clause (1), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (2), delete.
ii. Clause (3), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (1), line 1, delete “not be more than 8 per cent” and insert “be 6 per cent”.
iii. Clause (3), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (2), delete.
iv. Clause (4), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (2), line 2, delete “penlaty” and substitute “penalty”.
v. Clause (5), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (8), line 3,
delete “GH¢1000” and sub- stitute “GH¢2000”.
vi. Clause (6), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (1), delete and insert the following:
“(1) Subject to section 5(6), a service provider who does not pay the tax by the due date shall pay monthly interest on the tax due at the rate of one hundred and fifty per cent of the average of the prevailing commercial banks' lending rates as published by the Bank of Ghana for the period which is not more than one month after the due date that the tax remains unpaid.”
vii. Clause (7), Amendment Pro- posed, subsection (1), line 1, delete “and any” and insert “or”
viii. Clause (8), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (1), delete and insert the following:
“8 (1) where tax, penalty or interest due under this Act remains unpaid after the time by which this Act requires it to be paid, the Commissioner may apply to the Court by motion on notice to the person from whom the payment is due for an order to levy distress on the
(a) goods and chattels of that person
(b) commodity or items found in premises or land o w n e d b y, in use or in possession of that person or of any other person on behalf of or in trust for that person, or

(c) assets, property, building, factory, machinery, plant, tools, means of transport, accessories and all equipment used for the provision of communication service by that person”

vii. Clause (8,) Amendment Proposed, subclause (3), line 3, delete “subsection (2)” and insert “subsection (1)”.

viii. Clause (8), Amendment Proposed, subclause (4), line 1, delete “a police officer” and insert “the police” and line 2, delete “that police officer” and substitute “the police”.

ix. Clause (8), Amendment Proposed, subclause (6) (a), delete and insert the following:

(a) the cost or charges of

(i) the distress

( i i ) main tenance of the distress, and

(iii) the sale

x. Clause (8), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (6) last line, delete “has” and insert “takes”.

xi. Clause (8), Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (7), third line, delete “has” and insert “takes”

xii. Clause 12, Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (2), insert “which has been” after “docu- ment” in line 1.

xiii. Clause 13, Amendment Pro- posed, subclause (1), line 1, delete “responsible for Finance”.

xiv. Clause 13, Amendment Pro- posed, add a new subclause (4) as follows:

“The Minister in collaboration with the Minister of Commu- nication shall establish a mon- itoring mechanism to verify the actual revenue that accrue to a communications service pro- vider for the purpose of applying the tax”.

xv. Clause 15, Amendment Pro- posed, definition of “charge for communications service usage”, after “levy”, delete all words.

xvi. Clause 15, Amendment Pro- posed, def ini t ion of “Commu- nication service” line 3, delete all words after “functions”.

xvii. Clause 16, Amendment Pro- posed, delete.

7.0 Conclusion

The Commit tee , a f te r carefu l consideration of the Bill, recommends to the House to adopt this report and pass the Communications Service Tax Bill subject to the amendments proposed.

Respectfully submitted.

Mr. Haruna Iddrisu (NDC - Tamale

South): Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the opportunity to contribute to the motion on the floor and in doing so, reiterate the opposition of the Minority to this tax regime and in particular to refer Mr. Speaker to page 4 of the Committee's Report, last paragraph and with our indulgence I quote:

The Minority members on the Committee actively participated in the consideration of the Bill. They however, expressed their opposition in principle to the imposition of

communication service tax because of its impact on teledensity and mobile penetration.”

Mr. Speaker, we are not convinced that the future implications of this tax regime would hold good for the telecom sector of our country. Indeed, best practices, reference is made to Turkey and Uganda where in Uganda there is a recent study carried out by Makerere University which strongly even recommended reducing the tax regime in order to allow them to have an increased mobile penetration which is currently around 16 per cent far below that of Ghana.

Mr. Speaker, our opposition is motivated by three principal consi- derations. The first one is that it will limit the opportunity of talk time available to consumers and for that matter subscribers.

Mr. Speaker, if we refer to clause 2 - I am sure when we go on, later on we can explain it. That tax shall be paid together with the communications service charge to communications service providers by consumers of the service. It means that the incidence of the tax contrary to the earlier confusion which was created whether it would be borne by subscribers or service providers is now addressed. It means that mobile service subscribers, consumers would be made to bear the incidence of this tax regime and that would limit the opportunity of talk time that would be available to them.

Mr. Speaker, our second consideration
Mr. A. O. Aidooh 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker,
on a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague on the floor is grossly misleading all of us.
Mr. Speaker, whilst accepting his definition of communication, the Bill tells us for the purpose of the Bill what communication is for the purpose of the tax. And so there is a definition for a tax in terms of the Bill and therefore, he does not have to go far afield to tell us what the general definition is. That is quite misleading.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think
that Communications Service Tax - I want to refer hon. Members, in particular the Majority Leader that Communications Service Tax in our view is too broad. At best, what Government intends to tax is voice and therefore, it should be properly christened as a voice tax.
If he has his mobile phone with him and with Mr. Speaker's indulgence, I could allow him to experiment and make a voice call. That is their actual intention and that was captured Mr. Speaker, on page 422, paragraph 1436 of the Budget Statement and with your indulgence, Mr. Speaker, I quote:
“Mr. Speaker, considering the situation, Government has decided to abolish import duty and import VAT on all mobile phones imported into the country and introduce a more effective means of taxing mobile phone usage”.
These are not my words, these were the words of the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning. So their actual intention as they set out was to tax voice - mobile telephony, conversation that goes on as captured by this paragraph in the Budget Statement.
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Mr. A. O. Aidooh 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, on a
point of order, as far as my hon. Colleague on the floor continues to mislead the House - As I said and it is very clear in the first opening sections of the Bill. Sections 1 and 2 tell us what comm-unication is for in the purpose of the Bill and in what situations the tax is exigible.
Mr. Speaker 12:10 p.m.
Hon. Member, please
continue.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I believe
that the Majority Leader, with your guidance, can wait for his turn. I am sure he would be better guided by the ably Minister for Communications.
When we say communication, it embodies data and in all the discussions that went on, Internet Service Providers have not been consulted. If we stretch it wide, it means that data will be affected by this Bill and I do not think that was their original intention. They said because people were bringing in mobile phones and they do not pay tax. Indeed, this revenue argument is new; originally, it was because they could not police mobile telephones that entered in.
But Mr. Speaker, I am still making my point; I do not think that this tax should be extended to affect data, it should be restricted to voice if they insist on going ahead as they want to. And Mr. Speaker, I was saying that it appears that notwithstanding even the opposition from the Minority, the Government is obstinate to continue because it is not sensitive to the cry of industry; it is not sensitive to the cry of consumers. But Mr. Speaker, may
Prof. G. Y. Gyan-Baffour 12:10 p.m.
Mr.
Speaker, on a point of order.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member on the
floor is trying to mislead everybody here. Mr. Speaker, the quotation that he read, he selectively quoted a section and left the conclusion of it. Let me quote it again Mr. Speaker, so that you can understand what it really meant. Mr. Speaker, page 422, paragraph 1436 of the Budget Statement read as follows and with your permission I quote:
“Mr. Speaker, considering the situation, Government has decided to abolish import duty and import VAT on all mobile phones imported into the country and introduce a more effective means of taxing mobile phone usage. . .”
Mr. Speaker, the last sentence says 12:10 p.m.
“…. Consequently, government proposes to impose a specific excise duty per minute of air time use.”
And that is the essence of the whole thing. It is not about air time use by mobile phones; it is air time used and that could include text messages that he is referring to. It includes data that he is referring to. Mr. Speaker, communication does not mean it should be only voice or data; we should realize that data is not restricted to text and figures, it actually extends beyond that and a voice message is in fact data.
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Mr. Speaker 12:10 p.m.
Hon. Member for
Tamale South, are you yielding to him?
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:10 p.m.
For one minute, Mr.
Speaker.
Dr. Kunbuor 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I guess
that the import of the objection that the hon. Member for Tamale South is raising seems to be lost. The issue is that for purposes of tax, when it comes to the interpretation, you cannot make it ambivalent in the statute; it must be clear from the legislation itself what you want to tax. If that is not clear and it comes to matters of interpretation, you cannot imply tax. It is purely a creature of statute and it must be as clear as possible. So the point he is raising here is to let us be very clear as to whether this Bill has given that level of clarity of what we want to tax.
What my hon. Colleague has said confirms his argument that we are now even extending it to include data, to include all other things based on the understanding of communication. We cannot leave a tax to that level of fluidity as a legal category; it would be too fluid. If we want to make it very clear what we want to tax, we need some wordings of this and I think at the appropriate time we will come with the appropriate amendment.
Mr. A. O. Aidooh 12:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, this is
just for the help of all of us. Mr. Speaker, I note on page 7 that ‘Communication Service' is defined. This tax is being levied on communication service and there is a definition on page 7 and Mr. Speaker, with your indulgence I read:
“Communication service” includes the provision of a service through a communication system for the transmission or routing of signals or a combination of these functions but does not include domestic and international interconnectivity”.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you once again. Mr. Speaker, it is also important that one establishes the lack of candour on the part of the Government even in insisting on proceeding with this tax regime. You have publicly stated that moneys meant for this programme will be used to support the National Youth Employment Programme (NYEP). Indeed, we have all witnessed even adver- tisements on television, clearly stating that proceeds from this tax regime will be used to support the NYEP.
Mr. Speaker, with your indulgence may I refer you to the Memorandum, the very first paragraph, ending:
“Revenue accruing from the communications service tax is to be used to support the development agenda including employment programmes.”
Mr. Speaker, if the Government intends that these moneys are to be used to support the NYEP, I will not hesitate asking or requesting that this Bill should be withdrawn because if they actually mean to use the money on the NYEP, we should have been seeking to establish a voice service tax fund or a communication service tax fund purely devoted to national youth employment.
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:20 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague has read a paragraph, and he is trying to mislead himself, not only this House. Mr. Speaker, the sentence he read said “to support the development agenda including employ-ment programmes”. That is what is in the memorandum. It

says “the development agenda including employment pro-grammes,” not only the NYEP which is just one but other employment pro-grammes. So I do not see the incon-sistencies there.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, may I proceed further. The Memorandum is not part of the Bill which is eventually passed. All I am saying is that if you actually intend to use the money, let us establish a fund known as the Communications Service Tax Fund, and devote and commit it to the NYEP. It should be a clause under the Bill like GETFund - We will see that we will establish under this a fund -[Interruption.] -
Mr. Yaw Osafo-Maafo 12:20 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, a tax raises revenue for running the affairs of the State. If you decide to call it a fund, what is it? It is his opinion. We came in to seek to raise revenue to do certain things including a particular item. Why should it be a fund? You may decide to call it a fund, yes. But it need not be.
In fact, all the revenue that we collect, we leave it to the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning to apportion the usage for the approval of Parliament. It comes to us to approve as to how we apportion the revenue that comes. So I think the question of creating a fund is completely out of the question. That is his view, and I do not subscribe to it.
Mr. A. S. K. Bagbin 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I think hon. Members did not listen to hon. hon. Haruna Iddrisu very well. He started by raising the issue of sincerity. If I say I am going to grant GH¢100 million to hon. Dr. Anthony Akoto Osei, is it the same if I say I am granting GH¢100 million for the Majority including hon. Dr. Anthony Akoto Osei? It is not. Secondly,
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:20 p.m.
On a point of order.
Mr. Speaker, my hon. Senior Colleague is just misleading this House. Mr. Speaker, this House deals with matters that are legitimately brought before it. To wit, this paper in front of us, what is he talking about? It is out there. We do not deal with matters out there. We deal with matters that are legitimately brought to us. [Laughter] - So I do not know what he is talking about that “it is out there.” The “sincerity” is that you have in front of you some Bills that have been legitimately brought to you. [Hear! Hear!] - I do not know what he means “it is out there.”
Mr. Speaker, he has not seen me go out there. It is illegal for me to go out. The only legal thing is for me to bring it to him and that was why I said “development agenda including…” If he does not understand that he should ask for the explanation. But talking about out there, I do not know out there. This is an august House, I do not talk out there.
Mr. Bagbin 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, all this furore of my hon. Colleague will not help the situation. We have to take notice of the total programme of Government, and actions and inactions of Government. When we are debating issue on the floor, we should not close our minds to what is happening outside. It is Government's programme, and those advertisements are from Government, trying to educate people of Ghana to accept a policy that Government wants to implement, and that is what I am referring to in addition to the document before me.
It is a notorious fact that that advertisement is there, and that is the
message being sent to the good people of Ghana. It is good that we do not ignore it - we try to carry it along so that at the end of the day when you are implementing a policy it is well understood, it is supported and you can achieve it. That is part of the policy process. And we are saying that it is important that we get these things rectified here and then.
We do not disagree with Government looking for other initiatives to widen the tax net but when an issue is raised when a policy is being formulated, it is important for us to look at its overall impact on the development agenda; and we are drawing your attention to it. So it is important for you to sit down and listen and see how we can together fashion out something better.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, my argument is a very simple one. Indeed, even by our Standing Orders and the provisions of the Constitution, the Memorandum is not part of the Bill. It only gives an explanation and so their object of using it for youth employment will not be captured. And we may not be able to tailor the use of the money. We have seen how we are tailoring the use of the money meant for the GETFund; we have seen how it is under National Health Insurance Scheme.
I am only suggesting that under this Bill, they should have been proposing to create a communication service fund. As to what they use it for, they have the right to determine what their priorities are. Ideally, if I have my way any money that will come from this communication service, one, must benefit the telecom- munication sector itself because rural telephony is poor and internet access and penetration in Ghana is also poor. We could be deciding to reinvest some of the money within the telecommunication sector. I could add that some of the money could go into water. We are currently in
Mr. Simon Osei-Mensah 12:20 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague is misleading this House by suggesting that we should have created a com- munication service fund. The purpose of the Bill is to raise funds from this sector and invest in other areas including the NYEP. So if you say that we should create a communication service fund then it presupposes that we are going to use the revenue that we generate from this source to fund communication services. But that is not the purpose that we have here. The revenue that will be generated is going to be used for other purposes including the NYEP.
Mr. Speaker, again if he says we should create a fund specifically maybe for the NYEP, here again, it is erroneous. Employment generation, employment creation is multi-sectoral, and this is only going to support other sectors where the Government would create employment. So if you go and create a specific fund for employment, what are you going to do with other sectors like industries, agriculture, et cetera? Mr. Speaker, I do not think the suggestion my hon. Colleague is making could be possible.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the initiative of the National Youth Employment Programme is certainly not mine; it is part of the policy objective pursued by His Excellency the President. I am only saying that if you are sincere that you want money to support the National Youth Employment Programme which I have heard your Minister for Youth and Employment here state that they have problems with funding - no releases - then the possible way is to make sure that money accruing from this is invested to support the National Youth Employment
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
Hon. Members, let us make progress. I will give you the opportunity to contribute.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, we are also jumping the gun and I think that the Ministry for Finance and Economic Planning must do what is right. I earlier on, Mr. Speaker, with your indulgence - [Interruption.]
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Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
Do you have a point of order? What is it, please?
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:30 p.m.
I have no objection to my hon. dear Friend debating the matter but for him to impute a lack of sincerity is not fair. Mr. Speaker, we should respect each other when we are debating. To impute insincerity is not proper language for this House; and I really object to the use of the words “if the Government were sincere”. Mr. Speaker, I want to ask him to withdraw the expression so that the debate can go on.
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
You want him to use another word for this?
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:30 p.m.
To imply insincerity, I find that objectionable.
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Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
Hon. Member, are you yielding to him?
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Bagbin 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not know the understanding of the word “sincerity” by my Colleague, hon. Dr. Anthony Akoto Osei. He has just stated here that we should ignore whatever
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
Deputy Minister, what is the point of order you have?
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I find that expression offensive - “If the Government was sincere”. He has not established the basis for that and this is not the place to establish the basis for insincerity. Mr. Speaker, he cannot impute insincerity; there is no basis for it. That allows us to go the other way if he choses to use that kind of language.
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
I thought you have finished with the point of order you were raising.
Hon. Member for Tamale South, can you find another word for that?
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
I am summing up, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is more to it.
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
I am asking whether you can find another word for it.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
Lack of “condour” on the part of Government - [Interruption.]
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, he said lack of “condour”.
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
I have not called you.
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:30 p.m.
There is nothing like “condour”. Mr. Speaker, you see he is lacking in words. What does he want to say, “condour” or candour? Mr. Speaker, you see, he is mixing his words.
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
Deputy, I have not called you yet; let him continue.
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, with all due respect, I have not been a Deputy for some time now.
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
I have not called you. Hon. Members, let us make progress. We have not done much on this.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, in reiterating our opposition to this, I believe strongly that the Government is further jumping the gun and I want to refer you once again to page 422 in particular, paragraph 1436 of the Budget Statement; and with your indulgence, I quote:
“Mr. Speaker, considering the situation, Government has decided to abolish import duty and import VAT on all mobile phones imported into the country…”

Mr. Speaker, it is not for the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning to come to Parliament and announce that it has
Mr. Kwame Osei-Prempeh 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I find it very strange what my hon. Friend is saying. A law imposed the import duty. What happens is, if a new law comes to replace that when this one is passed that one would be repealed. Mr. Speaker, is he saying that that one should be repealed before a new law is enacted. Assuming Parliament refuses to pass this into an Act, what happens? Mr. Speaker, I believe my hon. Friend as a lawyer of such experience knows that what he is saying is untenable and therefore he must withdraw that.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, my hon. Senior Colleague knows that there is Customs, Excise Duties and Other Taxes (Amendment) Bill which should have been introduced to this House. Mr. Speaker, if the Deputy Attorney-General wants to know, his point cannot be defended. His own Colleagues at the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning brought a Bill which is yet to be considered; and I am saying that that should have been done before moving on to the imposition of an excise specific tax on it. When was the Budget read? - [Interruptions.]
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
Order!
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
When was the Budget read? We are four months into the period, you promised that you will withdraw import duty, yet you have not done that legally. I am only saying that do what is proper, come for an amendment of it. By his argument, there is no repeal under this. He may peruse through up to page 7, and he will realize that it says nothing about existing import duties; there is no repeal. He may go through it.
Mr. Speaker 12:30 p.m.
Hon. Member for Tamale South, I did say we are debating

the principles of the Bill.
Mr. H. Iddrisu 12:30 p.m.
Rightly so, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, finally - this is my final point -- excise duties. I am not an economist and I do not pretend to be one. Mr. Speaker, excise duties are normally imposed on undesirable goods. [Interruption] -- Yes, but the economist will tell you that excise duties are normally imposed on undesirable goods, goods that have socially negative effects like alcohol and tobacco.
To extend it to communications which has become an essential necessity - there is proven evidence that mobile telecommunications have facilitated the growth of business and they have facilitated the growth of industry. Indeed, in the long-term, it will contribute immensely to economic growth and economic development. I just hope that in embarking on this mission we are not persuaded by short-term considerations of revenue but what their implications will be for the larger growth of the telecom- munications sector of our country.
We maintain our position on it. We think that, Mr. Speaker, even if you refer to, for instance, clause (3) of the Bill -- and with your indulgence, that will be my final point -- you realize that it reads:
“The rate of the tax shall not be more than 8% …”
And then
“(2) Subject to subsection (1), the specific rate of a tax within a specified period shall be determined by the Minister and published in the Gazette.”
Mr. Speaker, it is a known canon and principle of taxation. Certainty of amount of payment must be known but that is not the case. Even though I admit that the Committee is making recommendation for an amendment to it that is wrong.
Mr. K. Opare-Hammond (NPP - Adenta) 12:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to associate myself with the motion on the floor. Mr. Speaker, indeed, I am not surprised that such a wonderful thing that is going to bring development to our nation is being opposed by our hon. Colleagues on the other side. In fact, since I have been in this House, what I have seen is that they have specialized in opposing anything that will bring some development to the people of Ghana. [Interruption.] Let me make a few comments to support what I am saying. [Laughter.]
Mr. Bagbin 12:40 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, it is important that my hon. Colleague be made to withdraw that statement. We have cooperated with this House, according to a survey conducted by an independent body - 95 per cent. Is he saying that, that 95 per cent were not
things towards developing this country? We have only disagreed with you about 5 per cent and it is not helpful to generalize and make such a sweeping statement, giving the impression that we are here to oppose the development of the nation. It is not correct; he should be made to withdraw it.
Mr. Opare-Hammond 12:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I would want to maybe, modify it and put it this way; that there are some specific important, urgent, very useful policies of the Government that have been brought before this House that they have opposed, and we can cite examples of HIPC, NHIS, et cetera.
So instead of generalizing it, let me just say that specifically some policies have been brought before this House which they have -- [Interruptions.] I withdraw that portion of the statement. That is all. [Interruptions.]
Mr. Opare-Hammond 12:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the object of the communications service tax is to raise revenue for the development agenda of Government including providing employment. This country needs to develop. We all agree to that and it is high time we began to find creative ways by which we can raise revenue to support our various developmental needs and projects. This is one of the creative ways that the NPP Government has come up with so that we can raise some money to meet the various demands.
When the Minister for Finance and Economic Planning came to this House to present the budget, he said that the shopping list that came to him was well over one hundred trillion cedis but we could provide for just about 73 trillion
Mr. Bagbin 12:40 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague is misleading the House and the whole country. It is important for him to go and look back at the 2000 Budget and look at the revenue that was generated. It was far, far more than ¢4.4 trillion far, far more. [Interruptions.]
Mr. Bagbin 12:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is important for him to acknowledge that even at that time, many of the revenue generation initiatives that were taken had not yet started roping in the money including value added tax. Including the - [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 12:40 p.m.
Order! Order!
Mr. Bagbin 12:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is important for people to know that because it was opposed in 1995, it was not passed in 1995. It is very important; it was not - it was forced in 1998; that was when it was passed. The GETFund had been passed but it had not yet generated the type of revenue we have . The Road Fund - the

same; there are a lot of it. So it is not just that the Government could not generate - it is just that some measures had been put in place but - We are prepared to support measures that will not be detrimental to the overall development of the country. So it is important that we allow each other the opportunity to be heard and disagree and at the end of the day we take a decision.
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Mr. Speaker 12:40 p.m.
Hon. Member for Adenta, unless he is prepared to yield to you.
Mr. Osafo-Maafo 12:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I completely agree with the last part of the hon. Minority Leader's statement that some measures put in place had not been effective. But as a matter of fact, by December, 2000, total revenue raised was ¢4.45 trillion, and by December 2004 it had gone up to ¢18.4 trillion. And Ghana was the only country in Africa where revenue had gone from 12.5 per cent of GDP to 18.5 per cent of GDP within that period of four years, and it was taken as a record within the developing world.
Therefore, yes, I agree that some measures put there had not yielded the results but the ¢4.4 trillion stated is factual.
Mr. Opare-Hammond 12:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the funds that are going to be generated from this communications service tax are going to help provide employment for the numerous youths that we churn out these days from the various universities.
M r. S p e a k e r, w e t a l k a b o u t unemployment. People have even gone on demonstration that there is so much unemployment in this country and yet when steps are being taken to address the unemployment situation, they oppose it.
Mr. J. D. Mahama (NDC - Bole/ Bamboi) 12:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, just briefly -- I
Mr. Opare-Hammond 12:50 p.m.
On a point
of correction. Mr. Speaker, I did not say what my hon. senior Colleague said. No. What I said was that we believe that they are making super-normal profit and that the installation of this monitoring system would help us to monitor their systems so that we would be able to charge the appropriate taxes such as VAT and corporate taxes. I did not say that the Communications Service Tax is going to help us tax them appropriately, no, that is not what I am saying.
Mr. Mahama 12:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, using
the same argument, it still would make the point I am trying to make -- We can say the financial sector is making super- normal profits and so if we tax the rate of savings and the rate of loans we would be able to monitor how much profit they are making and then be able to tax them appropriately in terms of income tax. That basis, for me, is not very convincing.
Mr. Speaker, what the Government continues to do day in, day out is to take the easy way out; that is, just continue to slap indirect taxes on the people. The
real challenge in raising revenue for this country is spreading the tax net such that everybody pays a little tax on his income. That is what would truly be a sustainable base for revenue mobilisation in this country. If you put 40 per cent tax on petrol then you say that communication is doing well and so let us slap one pesewa on every minute of airtime - That sector is one of the most overtaxed sectors.
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Mr. Speaker 12:50 p.m.
Hon. Deputy Minister, do you have a point of order?
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I do not know which hon. Deputy Minister is up now.
Mr. Speaker 12:50 p.m.
Hon. Minister of State.
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, you have not called me but I would like to be called. [Interruption.] No, he said hon. Deputy Minister so I do not know which one. Mr. Speaker, please.
Mr. Speaker 12:50 p.m.
Then you have not caught my eye.
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, yes. I was hoping to catch your eye.
Mr. Speaker 12:50 p.m.
All right.
Dr. A. A. Osei 12:50 p.m.
On a point of order.
Mr. Speaker, my hon. dear Friend is using an argument but I do not think he has heard himself. If we tax them 25 per cent

corporate tax and he says we are taxing them an excise tax of about one per cent, it is not correct. This is a consumption tax so it is not on the provider. He cannot mix the two.

So he should not add 25 and five (5) and one (1) and say we are overtaxing them. Legitimately, they pay 25 per cent income tax and VAT but not the one per cent. This is precisely the point that I believe he was coming to. The providers are not the ones that are going to pay the tax so he cannot make the argument that they are being overtaxed.
Mr. Mahama 12:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, if my hon. Colleague was listening to me carefully, I did not say ‘the service providers.' I said the sector is one of the most taxed in the economy because like everybody else - [Interruption.] Listen to me! I said ‘the sector'. I said because like everybody else they pay 25 per cent corporate income tax, that was what I said first.
Additionally, on the service they provide they pay another 15 per cent VAT and NHIS and we are going to add another one pesewa per minute of airtime. I am saying that if you add that, that sector becomes one of the most taxed sectors in our economy. That is the point I am making. I am not talking about the service providers.
Mr. Speaker, a very important point is, we have been over the years trying to improve the internet penetration in this country. It has risen dramatically because of the receding cost of providing internet penetration. The way this Bill is crafted makes me think that the tax is going to be imposed on internet usage because a lot of internet usage currently is based on a platform of airtime usage. For instance, the mobile service providers are providing
Mr. A. O. Aidooh 12:50 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, this rate that he talked about, one pesewa per minute, is not in the Bill any longer. Just for his information, it has been changed. While he was away campaigning for his vice presidency it was changed.
Mr. J.D. Mahama 12:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, that was the initial proposal but that translates to 8 per cent. It does not take away the principle of my argument. It means that the cost of internet browsing using an internet platform or using your mobile phone is going to go up by 8 per cent; that is the point I am making. But not even that, even if you have a fixed computer for which you do internet browsing, according to the way this Bill is crafted, it says communication services, and so it means that you would pay 8 per cent more on the cost of your internet usage.
Mr. Speaker, I think that that is going to roll back the progress we have made in terms of the very rapid internet penetration that has taken place in this country over the years. Mr. Speaker, with the addition of this tax, we are going to join the group of countries that have the highest tax on airtime in Africa and that lumps up with countries like Zimbabwe. If we add the 8 per cent to the current 15 per cent that we have, it is going to take us to 23 per cent
and that would put us at par with countries like Zimbabwe. We would even overtake Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe is 22 per cent and we would be 23 per cent. Countries like Zambia are 25 per cent and so we are going to enter that category.
Mr. Speaker, even the Trades Union Congress (TUC) has opposed this tax and I refer to Daily Guide of yesterday, March 11th, 2008, where the TUC has stated categorically that it is opposed to this tax and it has advanced various arguments to support this.
Mr. J.B.D. Adu 12:50 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Friend is misleading the House. If you read the Bill it does not state that the percentage is 8 per cent. So when he made the calculation that it is 23 per cent and that it is higher than that of Zimbabwe, I think he is grossly misleading the House. The Bill states clearly in clause 3 that the rate shall not be more than … So it can be less than 8 per cent. So when he puts the emphatic figure of 8 per cent, I think he is misleading the House.
Mr. Speaker 12:50 p.m.
Hon. Member for Bole/ Bamboi, I know you are dealing with the principle underlying the Bill. So please, continue with that.
Mr. Mahama 12:50 p.m.
Exactly! Mr. Speaker, as a consumer of airtime taxes I would take the worst case scenario; It says up to 8 per cent. I do not believe in the generosity of
Dr. A. A. Osei 1 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, he is grossly misleading this House. The VAT Service does not collect it and put it in the GETfund. The VAT Service collects it, it goes into the Consolidated Fund, and the Controller and Accountant-General transfers it to the GETfund. The VAT Service does not have the authority to do that; so he cannot say that they put it in the GETfund. That will be against this law.
Mr. Mahama 1 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the point I was making is about funds, whether the Consolidated Fund is a conduit for channelling the monies accrued into a fund. That is the point I am making and I am saying that, that is the point the hon. Member for Tamale South was making. We have the GETfund, money is collected by the VAT, it is channelled, if the Consoli-dated Fund is the conduit, it goes through it, where it faces several hazards as we know from our experience and then eventually might emerge in the GETfund.
Mr. Speaker, the National Health
Prof. Dominic Fobih 1 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague Member of Parliament is misleading the House. GETFund money is not channelled through the Consolidated Fund.
Mr. Speaker 1 p.m.
Hon. Members, we have to make progress.
Mr. Mahama 1 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, actually this was my last point and I will just wind it up quickly. Mr. Speaker, now we are faced with the question of which is which - [Laughter.] We have the hon. Minister for Education, Science and Sports - [Interrutpion.]
Mr. Speaker 1 p.m.
Hon. Member for Bole/ Bamboi, is this your last point? You may resume your point.
Mr. Mahama 1 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, so the point I was making was that for these specific taxes that are collected by the VAT Service, funds have been set up to receive the revenues and apply them for exactly what we intend them to be applied for. And so when the GETFund is collected, whether it goes through the Consolidated Fund or it flies over the Consolidated Fund, it ends up in the GETFund and it is applied for educational financing.
When we collect the National Health Insurance Levy, it goes into the National Health Fund and it is applied for medical expenditure. Mr. Speaker, what we are saying is that if you say that this money is meant for the National Youth Employment Programme, in order to avoid the hazards that revenues like these suffer in the Consolidated Fund, why do you not bring a Bill that sets up a fund for the National Youth Employment Programme? So that we know that those monies that are going to be collected are going to be lodged
Mr. F. K. Owusu-Adjapong (NPP - Akim Swedru) 1 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, reading the Committee's Report and with your permission I quote:
“The Committee, after careful consideration of the Bill, recom- mends to the House to adopt this report and pass the Commu- nications Service Tax Bill subject to the amendments proposed”.
Mr. Speaker, listening to a lot of the hon. Colleagues who have spoken, including the last hon. Member, I get the impression that we all see the justification to secure more revenue for the development of our country. Except that occasionally we are not too sure whether it should be a fund or whether it should be through the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning Consolidated system and things like that.
Mr. Speaker, again, the concern I see from that of the Minority if I may read
“The Minority members of the Committee actively participated in the consideration of the Bill. They however, expressed their opposition in principle to the imposition of the communications service tax because of its impact on teledensity and mobile penetration”.
And I thought this Bill is now our property and that is why we need to find out whether we can find a way of curing this problem they see. But Mr. Speaker, first, I am not too sure whether we can say that the mere collection of more money will always reduce teledensity.
Mr. Speaker, in 2001 a lot of the operators, in fact, all of them, there had only been one payment which they had made which they were obliged to make and that is the rural telephoning contribution. Only one contribution. But still the rate at which they were charging was 25 or 26 cents per minute. When they were compelled to make those payments, if the logic is right, then we should have expected that by now we should have been heading towards 40.
But I am sure my hon. Colleagues may be aware that we are now operating at 14 cents per minute; which means that even though they were compelled to honour their tax obligations because of the efficiency that has been introduced to the system, we were able to reduce the cost per minute to the consumer. So, we now need to find out, are there certain things that can be done that even with the imposition of this tax can still make the consumer happy? And I believe as a House, we need to look at it.
From the information I have, it looks like a lot of improvements are being made partly through the support of the Government and Parliament by the sort of loan we are securing to improve the communications system. The Werenwere Project - I am told when it is completed -- for instance, will reduce the cost to them and still make it profitable to us as low as 8 cents. Which means that even if we were to introduce this Bill and said it was
Dr. Benjamin Kunbuor (NDC - Lawra/Nandom) 1 p.m.
Thank you Mr. Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this Bill.
Mr. Speaker, the broader policy issues in relation to this Bill have been raised. But I guess that as a nation we need to get back to a few more of the fundamentals of our tax policy, which to say the least,

is highly unacceptable. Why I say that is that there is a gradual shift now, which is like a very lazy attitude of raising revenue. Lazy in the sense that we go for revenue collection in areas that do not require much effort.

So there is consistently the shift over the years of going to indirect taxes as against direct taxes. And if we are not able to maintain a credible balance between our indirect taxes and direct taxes, we are likely to run into problems.
Nana Abu-Bonsra 1:10 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, listening to the arguments coming from the other side, one is at a loss as to exactly the point that is being made. We have been told that the Government is adopting or is using the lazy attitude of collecting taxes and as a result only 21 per cent of legal taxes are collected while 79 per cent is left.
Mr. Speaker, the truth is that it is just because it is more difficult to collect direct taxes than to collect indirect taxes. The argument that is coming is that we should broaden the net. How do we broaden the net? We have a situation in our country now where virtually from either the trotro mate to the professor or politician everybody is using one mobile phone handset or more and if we are putting an indirect tax on communication usage, then I think it is a step in the right direction of
Mr. Speaker 1:10 p.m.
You have no point of order at all.
Dr. Kunbuor 1:10 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I can only thank my hon. Colleague for his contribution. But let me explain what I mean by that. An indirect tax by its nature is a regressive tax. And Ghana over the years even including the current tax policy is to try and make the ability to pay with the benefit approved.
These are the two principles we have been combining in Ghana to determine the type of tax intervention that we need and the ability to pay elements becomes important because an indirect tax does not care whether one belongs to the upper social structure in terms of income or the lower social structure because one is going to make an expenditure on the item that is concerned and the tax will be collected from one.
That is why one has a tax policy that seeks to also address issues of poverty and social equity and one goes more for the direct taxes which are more pro-gressive in terms of the tax rate than going for indirect taxes that are blind to people's social location and that is why I am saying that the balance between direct and indirect taxes has to be maintained; and we are seeing that there is a gradual shift towards indirect taxes just because of how easy it is to collect. And I am saying that the easiness with which we collect that tax should not be the main attraction for us to be moving in that direction because of the possible social conse-quences.
Mr. Speaker, one would also realize that the genesis of this particular Bill is interesting. When I was making my contribution to the Budget Statement for 2008, I made this point quite categorically
that if the Budget Statement had kept faith with the fact that this particular tax regime is a very easy way of raking in revenue, it will have more credible social support than to give the impression that it was trying to address smuggling of mobile handsets.
And I maintain this statement because one of the things about one's ability for people to buy into a tax regime depends on the extent to which one keeps faith with the tax paying public. So I guess that we must also do the honourable thing to go back and rework our Budget Statement that it was not just per se for the purpose of smuggling in handsets, that is why we are introducing this but that a gold mine in terms of revenue has been discovered and the Government intends to take advantage of it.
That brings me to what exactly we intend to use this particular tax regime for. If we are not sure of what we want to do, let us be very careful about raising people's expectations that might not be fulfilled. I do not want to believe that the idea of roping in youth employment and other developmental concerns is an after-thought and one that is supposed to provide a platform to sell the particular tax policy. I am saying this because if at the end of the day, they say they are applying it to development, they should show me one tax item in this country that is not applied to the development of the country.
Now, if one intends to go specifically to
youth employment, there is a lot of caution why we must deal with the fund issue that the hon. Member for Tamale South had addressed; because if one watches the Ghana Education Trust (GETFund), the entire GETFund arrangement has been put in place by a legislation so when one is making direct or indirect appropriation to these institutions, it must be legally
Dr. Kunbuor 1:10 p.m.
At best, it is a policy that is being implemented and it is being implemented through but if they are going to make this type of payment to it out of tax regimes, let us be very clear who is the accounting and reporting authority in terms of the use of this money? And that is the context in which we need perhaps, an all purpose statutory vehicle either be it a fund or any type of institution so that we are sure that this amount of money that will be going for that policy is being administered by a particular institution to which this House will have to hold accountable.
Mr. Speaker, the issue of the rates as they stand now, is still a question that I guess we can take up in some more detail because I have not yet had a scientific basis for even the amendment that has been produced by the Committee in terms of what will be the appropriate rate that would be paid. We need a lot of justification as to how this has to be done and I will reiterate that from the wording of the way we are imposing this tax, I think we should still let the Attorney-General's Department take a second look at it.
I am saying this because tax happens to be one of the regimes that has very strict rules of interpretation because only a statute by Parliament is the one that can impose a tax. If the imposition becomes ambivalent, one runs into a difficulty and there is legal authority to show that where one taxes in an ambivalent manner, it certainly means one did not intend to tax at all and I guess that we should look at this and get the Attorney-General's Department to tighten it, watch all its tax legislation; every tax legislation is structured in two parts, the charging section that has to be unambiguous and the machinery section that is used to collect

the tax.

If these two are confused and one runs into a legal problem, they are unlikely to say one intended actually to collect the tax. So the subject-matter of the tax, where the tax burden is going to, how it is supposed to be imposed, has to be clearly delineated in the legislation so that we can move forward on this.

With these few comments, Mr. Speaker, we will revisit the issue.
Minister for Communications (Dr. B. Aggrey-Ntim) 1:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have enjoyed the debate on this tax regime. A few points have come up that I thought Mr. Speaker, I should make some comments on. The first one relates to the name given to the Bill, namely, the Communications Service Tax.
I heard the hon. Member for Tamale South (Mr. Haruna Iddrisu) putting a case for a change of that name adopted presently, and I wanted to call the attention of this august House to the fact that indeed, ITU which is the International Telecommunications Union did consider changing its name because it has always been dealing with telecommunications, but indeed, now it is dealing with the broader area of ICT, Information, Communication and Technology. And that change did not come about because the ITU decided that having worked in the telecommunications field and gained that prominence in the past, they will maintain that name but they will now define that ITU would cover not just telecommunications but actually the broad area of ICT.
So when this name is suggested here, Communications Service Tax, it does deal
Alhaji Collins Dauda (NDC -- Asutifi South) 1:20 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to make a few comments, a very short one on the Communications Service Tax Bill.
Mr. Speaker, I have taken a close look at the memorandum of the Bill and particularly with regard to the object of the Bill, and with your permission I will read that and then follow up with my comment. Mr. Speaker, it says that,
“Revenue accruing from the communications service tax is to be used to support the development agenda including employment programmes.”

Mr. Speaker, I cannot trust them based simply on the fact that this tax we are dealing with today was introduced under the Budget of 2008 and the reason for introducing this tax was clearly spelt out in the Budget Statement at paragraph 1435. Mr. Speaker, now, this Government says that it is generating revenue to support the development agenda including employment programmes. Mr. Speaker, I have read through the whole Bill, and there is not even one clause in the Bill that seeks
Papa Owusu-Ankomah 1:20 p.m.
Mr.
Speaker, I am rising on a point of order that the hon. Member is misleading the House seriously. Mr. Speaker, if you look at the Memorandum, the first paragraph, line 4, it says:
“The imposition of this tax is part of efforts by government to widen the tax net in order to increase revenue yield.”
Then it goes on,
“Revenue accruing from the communications service tax is to be used to support the development agenda…”
So I do not really understand and appreciate the point that the hon. Members opposite have been making about this employment programme, specifics, whatever, and this matter has been argued ab initio. I do not know why the hon. Member is going the same way -- [Interruption.] Ah! I see, I did not seem to see him whilst the debate was ongoing, probably, he just came in.
Alhaji Dauda 1:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, it is based on the same reasons that I have a difficulty. Certainly, the memorandum will not end up being part of the law and I am saying that if indeed the Government is committed to using part of this revenue to solve unemployment problem in the country, we support it. But at least, put one clause in the law to say at least, 10 per cent of the revenue generated would be set aside to deal with unemployment problems in the country, but it is not there.

Mr. Speaker, as soon as this law is passed, the memorandum would not be part of the law. These things we must know and that is what I am proposing that at least, we put in a clause to say that 10 per cent or 15 per cent of the revenue that would be generated would be set aside to deal with unemployment so that at any point in time, this House can hold the Government accountable. As it is now, as soon as the law is passed, there is no way you can hold the Government accoun-table for using this money to deal with unemployment.

In any case, we are told that it is to be used for developmental agenda including unemployment. I wish to propose that an amendment be filed in the law so that the Government's intentions would be reflected in the main law.
Mr. Speaker 1:30 p.m.
One more person.
Deputy Minister for Education, Science and Sports (Mrs. A. Baiden- Amissah): Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the motion to approve the Communications Service Tax Bill as presented by the hon. Minister for Finance and Economic Planning.
Mr. Speaker, a lot of taxes have been evaded in this country by many workers, many exporters and importers. I was present at Bawku and saw the youth bringing unregistered motor bikes, bicycles and a lot of mobile phones in their pockets and when they got to duty posts, I was expecting the policemen to challenge them but they only collected something and put in their pockets and allowed them to pass.
Mr. Speaker, apart from that, there are other areas where evasion of tax takes place and it is because we evade a lot of taxes that we cannot get exactly what the nation needs. It is for this reason that we want to broaden the tax net and we believe that dwelling on mobile phones that are imported into the country can help us.
Dr. Kunbuor 1:30 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, my hon. Colleague is misleading the House. I think she ought to be advised by the Minister of State at the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning. He has publicly indicated that the real object of this Bill is not to deal with the smuggling of mobile phones and this was said on a national television on a programme that I was present. So he has since corrected the policy orientation, as to whether people smuggle mobile phones in their pockets or not would not have much relevance to what we are doing now.
Mrs. Baiden Amissah 1:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I know what I am talking about. I am talking about evasion of taxes and for which reason we want to broaden the tax net. And this is the reason why other importations must be considered. A lot of people do not pay import duties and it has been realized that even with the importation of mobile phones, when Customs officers get on board ships to count the number of phones present, it is only empty packages that are found. Very few mobile phones are found.
It means that when it comes to payment of import duties, very little is paid and a lot of - If you look at the number of mobile phones in this country, as compared with the taxes they pay, it is better to forget about any import duty and rather put the tax on the consumer so that at least, a percentage coming from each consumer can help broaden the tax base, increase revenue for this country and help all of us in our development agenda including the youth employment programme.
You and I are sending the youth to the Ministry of Manpower, Youth and Employment that they must be employed. There are a lot of youth still loitering about without being employed; a lot of secon-dary school graduates who are still
loitering about. Even though a lot of them have been employed, we still have more that need to be employed, but where is the money for it?
Mr. Bagbin 1:30 p.m.
On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, I think that our hon. Colleague should be brought back to the Bill. The relevance of the scholarship, especially the Northern Scholarship is not an issue and it is not only the Northern Scholarship that we have in the country; there are other scholarships and studies have shown that the other scholarships support more people down South than the Northern Scholarship supports the people in the North.
So please, she should not try to make a political capital out of the Northern Scholarship Scheme; it would not help any person there. The studies are there. They are published by Mr. Gbadamoshie. She can go and take the book and read. We are dealing with service tax, she should not bring the Northern Scholarship Scheme here.
Mrs. Baiden-Amissah 1:30 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I mentioned that when we have an increase in revenue, we could use it for some other purposes including the Northern Scholarship because the heads of the three northern regions are threatening to close down schools. And what I am saying is that if we could have increase in revenue and make sure that we add more to whatever sector would be needed, I think it would go a long way to help all of us.
Mr. Speaker, what I am also saying is that when it comes to the communications
service tax, there is no tax on inter- connectivity and people are also envisaging that as soon as we approve of this tax, a lot of people would not be able to talk much as they would want to. I do not think it would happen that way. If I have something important to discuss with a friend on phone, I do not see the reason why this tax should affect me - Well, if I do not have money and I do not want to, then I do not go in at all.
What is heart-warming is the fact that this revenue is to be accounted for by the communications service providers to the value added tax. This is to tell us that monitoring would not be any problem to us.
With this short intervention, I urge all hon. Members from both sides of the political divide to support this tax and vote massively for it. Mr. Speaker, I thank you for this opportunity.
Minority Leader (Mr. A.S.K. Bagbin) 1:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, just to emphasize the point that all of us here are prepared to support the widening of the tax net; we are all interested in raising more revenue for the purpose of development in the country. This measure is not to widen the tax net and I repeat, not to widen the tax net. This is an imposition of a new tax and in that sector there are already existing taxes. You widen a tax net when there is an existing tax and then you lower the threshold or you include other people that were not paying that tax. That is widening the tax net. But this is an imposition of a new tax.

Now, the sector has come out with a memorandum on the matter. They have raised a lot of critical issues and those issues were put forward to the Government. It is important that in the
Minority Leader (Mr. A.S.K. Bagbin) 1:40 p.m.


consideration of the new tax, those issues are factored into the mechanism that Government wants to put in place. We on this side of the House can see from arguments that have been advanced so far that we are going to rather lose than gain in the imposition of this new tax.

Mr. Speaker, the Trades Union Congress (TUC) just yesterday came out with a release on it. The TUC is also very much concerned about employment in the country and they are totally against the imposition of this talk tax. In fact, as carried by the Daily Guide newspaper yesterday, one of the important areas I want to refer to is a paragraph which deals with trying to find a solution to the shortage of revenue of generation. It says, and with your permission, I beg to quote:

“The solution to the low levels of tax revenue does not lie in the introduction of the so-called talk tax. Rather government should modernize and resource the Internal Revenue Service, VAT Service, Customs, Excise and Preventive Service to do what they were set up to do.”
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Mr. Speaker 1:40 p.m.
Hon. Member for Akim Abuakwa North, do you have any point of order?
Mr. Danquah Adu 1:40 p.m.
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
The hon. Minority Leader made an emphatic statement that the TUC was opposed to the imposition of this tax. The TUC's position was not opposition of this tax. Their position was to do with who was going to pay the tax and would have wished that the service provider would be the body to bear this tax. They are not opposed to the imposition of the tax.
Mr. Speaker 1:40 p.m.
Hon. Minority Leader, please, continue.
Mr. Bagbin 1:40 p.m.
Very interesting sub- mission. Mr. Speaker, the tax is not being paid by the service providers; it is being paid by the consumers. And the consumers include members of the TUC and that is why they expressed concern about the impact of the tax even on its members.
Mr. Speaker, I was talking about us beefing up, strengthening the capacity of the revenue agencies to be able to collect the tax that we impose by legislation because the evidence is clear that they are not even able to collect half of what we have already imposed.
Again, on the utilization of loans that we approve in this House, we have the capacity to utilize about 38 per cent of them. And therefore, it is important that we talk of beefing up the system, improving the capacity of the system as to how to implement the existing legislation - [Interruptions.] I am talking of revenue, not half. That is the evidence.
Mr. Speaker, we can impose new taxes but we would have the additional responsibility of collecting the taxes and therefore, there is a problem with not just imposition but also with the collection of the tax. The impression is being given that this tax is excise; and we know that
excise tax is imposed on luxury goods and services.
Mr. Speaker, Informat ion and Communication Technology (ICT) is a very essential area for not just communications alone but for the overall development of a country. In fact, it is one of the areas that generate a lot of employment. That is the ICT area. And clearly, the submissions of the stakeholders should not just be waived by the Government in the consideration of this policy. I believe strongly that the voices of the stakeholders, including us on this side of the House, would have to be factored in.
It is not good for us, as a people, to only be concerned about the formulation of policies by one side and that is usually the Government of the day. We should be talking about how the imposition of the tax will have to go with the collection and that is the ability to carry everybody along so that we can pay the tax. And that is one of the reasons why we are having problems in the implementation of issues like the National Health Insurance Levy. This is because the mechanisms were not put in place. And even though a lot of money is roped in, the utilization is in issue now. And in fact, as the audit report has shown, a lot of the money is going into waste.
So when we are imposing tax, definitely nobody wants to pay tax because it is punitive; the person will want to see when they forego their moneys for us, how we are going to utilized it. If it is not going to be utilized to improve the lot of the people in the society definitely, the person would not want to pay the tax. And this is why the stakeholders including the TUC, the service providers and us on this side of the House are raising these issues. It is not, and it has never been the practice of the
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Mr. Speaker 1:40 p.m.
Hon. Member, do you have a point of order?
Mr. Osei-Mensah 1:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I have a point of order on two issues.
Mr. Speaker, the first issue is that my hon. senior Colleague is creating the impression that this tax is going to impact negatively on the development of this nation. And this statement is erroneous.
Mr. Speaker, we have been told here that the Government has invested in the provision of fibre optic which is a superhighway for the communication sector. And the advantage here is that unlike the use of the micro width where at any time, looking at the present capacity that the service provider has, would have to provide a system that has a larger capacity, which will not be utilized in the shortest possible time and which will be an additional cost to the provider; the use of the fibre optic is different. Here, the service providers are rather going to save cost and as a result the charges that they are going to impose are going to come down. So even after the imposition of this tax, the net tax the consumer will pay is definitely going to come down.
Mr. Speaker, the next issue that they are talking about is that we are not differentiating between two things. We have the statutory incidence of the tax,

which the service providers are going to pay and then the economic incidence of the taxation. And here, we are talking as if we have inelastic demand or inelastic supply of services in this sector. It is only in a situation where we have inelastic demand and maybe, inelastic supply whereby the imposition of tax would be paid 100 per cent by the consumer. This is not the situation.
Mr. Speaker 1:40 p.m.
Hon. Member, are you contributing?
Mr. Osei-Mensah 1:40 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, I am just on a point of order and trying to explain why I am saying that the incidence of taxation -- [Interruption.]
Mr. Speaker 1:50 p.m.
That is not a point of order. Hon. Member, please continue.
Mr. Bagbin 1:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, the hon. Member simply did a good job by supporting our position on two grounds. On the clarity of tax, he is now saying it is not going to be paid by the consumer hundred per cent, but it would be shared. But he has not told us who and who are going to share - [Interruption] - To be shared by Majority and Minority. [Laughter.] Secondly, his analysis has shown that apart from this tax, we have 15 per cent VAT and National Health Insurance Levy on the service and that is also paid by consumers.
When you buy your card you pay the VAT. So they are all there and they have been analysed. That was why I said I did not know whether he has had time to
read the memo submitted by the service providers, the operators. It is interesting for you to read it and do not talk about supply and demand forces alone. We know that with the imposition of additional tax, it would affect the demand.
Definitely, it would affect the demand because both you and I would have to be more cautious as to how long we talk or use the internet. But you are aware that we also need the internet for educational purposes. We need it a lot for business, we need it a lot for technology, for industry and there is going to be impact on all these sectors. That is why we are trying to see how we can balance the impact on the development of the nation.
Mr. Speaker, let me just end by saying that, and I keep on referring to this; it is important that we in leadership recognize that when these criticisms are levelled they are not meant to destroy, rather they are meant to improve. And it is for all of us and not only those in government, to recognize the need to create the atmosphere for us to listen to each other and factor in diverse opinions and views in order to carry the country forward. One side can never and would never be able to develop the country.
Minister of State (MOFEP) (Dr. A.A. Osei) 1:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, as you can see there have been a lot of good contributions on this Bill. Not too long ago, I heard people talking about oligopoly and monopoly, professor of law and taxation, et cetera. Mr. Speaker, I am sure we can stay here all day and debate on the theory of taxation and theory of market and so on and so forth but that is not why we are here.
First of all, let me correct one or two impressions that have been created that we have taken for granted. First, I think I support my senior Colleague about the issue of just not thinking about the tax. I think we have to look at the totality of tax policy rather. We only happened to be looking at the Communications Service Tax Bill. But if you care to look at the budget, there is a complementary list of
the kinds of things we are talking about that would help the tax policy in Ghana such that you would see that we are doing things that are complementary.
I can list things for you, the Customs, Excise and Preventive Service is going to introduce an electronic transaction price data base, VAT Service is going to have surveillance system and these are things that are not exclusive of the tax that is being introduced. So please let us not give the impression that it is only tax that is being imposed.
As to the issue of not widening the tax, I think I can see your point but one of the arguments is that if you remove taxes on the mobile phones that are coming, a couple of things can happen; a lot more people would have access to more phones and the cost of the mobile phones can be cheaper. So in quantum terms, more bodies in Ghana are going to have access to more phones and that could lead to the possibility of bringing more people into the tax net. So there is that possibility. These issues are admittedly empirical but the evidence we have seen thus far points to that direction and that is why we are convinced that it would lead to that.
I agree with you very much on one side that the issue is not just revenue collection but efficient use of the resources that are coming. I think that is what we intend to do.
My hon. Colleague, Dr. Kunbuor talked about laziness in tax collection, it is not laziness. Consumption taxes are the most efficient, not lazy but most efficient way of collecting taxes. And in economics, we think that efficiency issues are very relevant. So efficiency is not the easiest. Mr. Speaker, I think that on the balance, I want to assure my hon. senior Colleague that prior to bringing this Bill, we found the opportunity to re-educate the service providers.
Mr. Speaker 1:50 p.m.
Leadership, what is the next item?
Mr. A. O. Aidooh 1:50 p.m.
Mr. Speaker, we have agreed that we would reconstitute into a close Sitting at this stage, if hon. Members would bear with us.
Mr. Speaker 2:44 p.m.
Close Sitting? Let the House be cleared of non Members of Parliament.
Hon. Members, we shall have extended Sitting.

Sitting resumed.
ADJOURNMENT 2:44 p.m.

  • The House was adjourned at 2.45 p.m. till 13th March, 2008 at 10.00 a.m.