Debates of 9 Dec 2015

MR FIRST DEPUTY SPEAKER
Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:35 a.m.
Very well.
STAGE 11:35 a.m.

  • [Resumption of Debates from Tuesday, 08/12/2015.]
  • Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Hon Chairman of the Committee, where did we get to?
    Alhaji Amadu Bukari Sorogho 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, we got to clause 17 yesterday and deferred a few of the clauses. I wish that we continue from clause 18 as we sort out those we deferred yesterday. So, we can continue from clause 18.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Very well.
    Clause 18 - Sources of funds for the scheme
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 18, (c), delete “contributions” and insert “donations”and after “companies” add “and other related business entities”
    Mr Speaker, the purpose of the amendment is to clarify the underlying policy. The word, “donations” was found more appropriate than “contributions”.
    Secondly, the type of companies that may donate to the Mining Communities Development Scheme has also been expanded. That is why we decided that we should have the amendment for the two to take up these issues.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Members, it is a straight-forward one.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    Clause 18 as amended ordered to stand part of the Bill.
    Clause 19 -- Local Management Committee
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move that, clause 19, subclause (1), delete and insert the following:
    “(1) Without limiting section 11, the Board shall establish a local management committee for a mining community.”
    Mr Speaker, the essence is to make it mandatory for the Board to establish local mining committees for all Mining Community Development Schemes. If we do not do that and just leave it, some may decide to do it while others may not and it goes against the development and welfare of that mining community though they would have been working in that community for a very long time. It becomes mandatory, so that it can take care of the development and other related needs of that mining community.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:35 a.m.
    Very well.
    Alhaji Muntaka 11:35 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would be grateful if the Hon Chairman could tell us the difference between the schemes that they are going to have in every community as against the Local Management Committee and whether their roles will not conflict. We need to be sure that we do not create confusion in the mining communities where we have a scheme, a local management committee — What clearly differentiates the two?
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, if we go to the Bill itself, it says and I beg to quote, with your permission:
    “Without limiting section 11, the Board may, where necessary, establish a Local Management Committee for a mining area”
    Mr Speaker, it says, “may”, and we said, no; if we say the Board may — they may or may not. That is why we are saying that it should be “shall” to make it mandatory. So, it is already captured in the Bill. We are only making it mandatory, so that we do not leave it to the whims and caprices of the mining companies to do it or not. So, it is already in the Bill.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    You have not answered his query.
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, that is why it says, “without limiting”. That scheme comes under section 11.
    Alhaji Muntaka 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, with the greatest of respect, as you have rightly said, even when you look at the Scheme, they did not provide the membership. Part of the Scheme's objective is -- Mr Speaker, with your permission, I would read -- which is in secion 17:
    “The object of the Scheme is to provide for the socioeconomic development of communities in which mining activities are undertaken and that are affected by mining operations”.
    They are now setting up a Local Management Committee -- when one looks at their objective -- the tendency. So, we would want to be sure that when we establish both the Scheme and the Local Management Committee, there would not be turf war within the
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Hon Chairman of the Committee, do you see the point he is making?
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:45 a.m.
    Rightly so, Mr Speaker.
    The issue is that, if one would watch very carefully, one would realise that the Local Management Committee -- the Scheme is up. If you look at the composition -- the Chief Executive of the District Assembly -- This is up; but if we just leave it hanging up there as the national scheme, which has been envisaged under section 11, that composition is at the top level. We have said we would need it to come down to the local area.
    That is the implementing agency and they would have to implement whatever decisions are taken up there. That is why if you go through the members, the Chief Executive for the District Assembly of the mining area, for which the Local Management Committee has been established, or a representative of the Chief Executive Officer, the traditional ruler of the mining area -- Here, because we have changed it, we may further say that the mining community -- because we would be changing it, so that it can just follow. One representative from the district office of the Minerals Commission -- At the district level, we have that and then each mining company within the district.
    Mr Speaker, so, this is to decentralise the operations down to the mining community, so that it can be effective. The end result is that we want it to be effective.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Chairman, it looks like with regard to the establishment of the Mining Community Development Scheme, the membership is not clearly stipulated and we probably would want to take a second look at it -- Do we not need to be specific who and who could constitute that?
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, section 11 talks about --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    No! No!
    I am talking of section 16, which just says:
    “There is established by this Act a Mining Community Development Scheme”.
    Then section 17 says:
    “The object of the Scheme is to provide …”
    So, which people can constitute this committee of the development scheme?
    Alhaji Muntaka 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would suggest to the Hon Chairman --
    In fact, I had wanted to do it but I was out when those sections were taken.
    I would want to suggest to the Hon Chairman that we stand down sections 16,17 and 18 that have to do with the Scheme, even though it has been taken. Maybe, we should come back and look at the composition. This is because just as it is composing the membership of the Local Management Committee, I strongly feel that we need to compose the Scheme.
    We should not just establish it without stating which people should be members of the Scheme. Otherwise, we would open it to all manner of interpretations and confusion when this is passed into an Act.
    So, since the Question has been put, maybe, if Mr Speaker could direct that we come back to section 16, especially where we are to look at the possibility of creating the membership. We would be able to make progress by standing it down and making progress after which we would come back.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Very well; we would take a second look at it.
    Hon Chairman, take a second look at it and then later, we can think of how to embody it in the setting up of the membership of that committee. Otherwise, we would have problems in certain mining communities when it comes to the management and those who should be part of the development scheme -- we could have problems.
    So, having explained yourself away with regard to clause 19, I will put the Question.
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:45 a.m.
    [Inaudible --Microphone off]
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Yes, but this amendment that you have proposed -- or do we take them?
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:45 a.m.
    [Inaudible.]
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Yes, then let us go with what you have dealt with now and then we move on to the other amendments of the same clause 19.
    Mr Kwame Anyimadu-Antwi 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I was of the view that Mr Speaker had directed that a second look at clause 19 should be taken and I got up to propose -- before I realised, the Question had been put. But I thought that --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Do go ahead with your submission.
    Mr Anyimadu-Antwi 11:45 a.m.
    If it is going to be put in abeyance, I would discuss it with the Chairman of the Committee. If not, then the Chairman is actually --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Very well.
    The Chairman is alright with this. So, let me put the Question.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 19, subclause (2), paragraph (b), delete “the traditional ruler” and insert “traditional rulers”
    Mr Speaker, this is straightforward.
    The amendment was proposed to allow two or more traditional rulers from a mining community to be appointed unto the Local Management Committee, so that it could be one or two. If we just say “traditional ruler,” there may be a mining community where there may be several traditional rulers representing various factions. So, in that case, it is possible that they can agree and the two can represent on that committee. That is the reason we think that the --
    Ms Sarah Adjoa Safo 11:45 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, just a quick one on clause 19(1), so that when they go back, in looking at the one that has been put in abeyance, they can consider the wording that is used ”without limiting section 11.” I wonder if it is the right drafting language. Usually, they use “subject to” so that they can take --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:45 a.m.
    Hon Member, could you assist the Committee by meeting with the Hon Members of the Committee to discuss this issue as they are going to take a second look at the whole thing?
    Ms Safo 11:55 a.m.
    Very well.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Thank you.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 19, subclause (2), paragraph (c), sub-paragraph (i), after “Officer” insert “of the Minerals Commission”
    The “Officer” must not just come from any other place, it must be an officer of the Minerals Commission because they are the regulatory body in charge of the mining community.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Very well.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 19, subclause (2), add the following new paragraphs:
    “(d) one representative of an identified women's group in the community; and
    (e) one representative of an identified youth group in the community.”
    Mr Speaker, this is to allow for women and also the youth to be represented. This is because most of the times the problems that would start from a mining community, starts normally with the youth agitating. They do not know what is happening and also the women have not been represented. So, if we bring them in to become participant observers, it reduces
    conflicts and then allows for the smooth running of the scheme and other things. It is a straightforward thing.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Thank you very much.
    I believe because it is part of affirmative action, I am sure the women would be happy to have it.
    Mr Anyimadu-Antwi 11:55 a.m.
    Thank you Mr Speaker.
    I am not objecting to that, but drawing the Hon Chairman's attention to whether it would not be worth considering the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as being a member of this committee, in view of the nuisance that is caused at the various communities when the licences are given.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Yes, Hon Chairman, how do you respond to that?
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, I wish I could agree to such an amendment but this is not about the mining. This is about the administration of the Scheme. So, at other areas, the EPA is effectively represented because mining is all about the environment. This is just about the administration of the Fund.
    Mr Anyimadu-Antwi 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, we have an opportunity setting up a committee to put in place people who are responsible and would be in a position when they are taking policy decisions or whatever. If somebody from the EPA is part of this committee, I think it would enrich it.
    Thank you.
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, it would even be difficult. The Hon Member is talking about an environmental officer for several mining communities. It may not even be possible for you to have an environmental officer within the mining area. These are mining communities and we can have several of them. Which environmental officer will you get to represent various mining communities?
    There are other areas where they are represented. These ones are community- based and that is the lowest. So, we cannot get an officer from the EPA to come and --
    Mr Anyimadu-Antwi 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, every community belongs to a district and here we are talking about the District Chief Executive being a member of this committee.
    When we are talking about environ- ment, it is about mining decisions. We are witnesses to the fact that various communities and sites have been destroyed and so, are water bodies and whatnot. Getting a member from the EPA should not be difficult, whether it is from the district or the region. It should not be a problem.
    So, I believe that it is worth considering such an addition.
    Thank you.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Hon Chairman, do you have any objection?
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, Yes.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Once the Chief Executive of the district or the municipality is there, there must be an environmental officer in that office. So, it should be possible to get that person to serve on that committee.
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, we are not talking about the mining itself but the administration of the Fund.
    Number two; they could be one District Assembly with more than 10 mining communities. The Chief Executive is there, because being the head of the place, he must know what is happening.
    Mr Speaker, it does not even mean that he must necessarily be present in all the meetings. But from what my Hon Colleague is saying the person must be there to make sure that the environmental issues are taken care of. We are not talking about the environmental issues here.
    A Fund has been created. How do we share and make sure that the people benefit from the moneys that are coming in? Other environmental issues have already been taken care of under the other clauses. Here, it is the local level. So, you cannot say that there must be an environmental officer.
    If there are 10 mining communities within one District Assembly is he saying that that officer must be a member of all those mining communities? The Chief Executive, by virtue of the fact that he is the head of the district, must necessarily know what is happening. I think if he could drop it, so that we make progress, I would be most grateful.
    Mr Anyimadu-Antwi 11:55 a.m.
    Thank you Mr Speaker.
    I know governance starts from bottom up. If the Hon Chairman tells me that because it is the basic local unit and we have to ignore it, I am not comfortable, save that, I would want to be convinced. If the Hon Chairman would not mind, if there is any mischief that would be caused should such a representative be added -- if we would lose anything by adding a representative from the EPA?
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:55 a.m.
    Mr Speaker, this is not the Minerals and Mining Act. If we go to Act 703, all that you are looking for is catered for there. This is the Minerals Development Fund Bill -- [Interruption.] -- But how many will you get? [Interruption] -- Just one?
    Alhaji Sorogho 11:55 a.m.


    If there are 10 mining communities, he is saying that for each community, there must be an environmental officer. Where will that environmental officer be -- [Interruption] -- And one person to serve on 10 committees?

    What is the purpose of that person and what will he do when already, under the Minerals and Mining Act, detailed care has been taken on the environmental aspect. -- [Interruption] -- Already, the number is big and we keep on expanding -- There are so many other committees. So, seriously speaking, I do not -- [Interruption]
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    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Yes, Hon Member for Dome-Kwabenya?
    Ms Safo 11:55 a.m.
    Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.
    The Hon Member asked the Hon Chairman if there would be any mischief caused -- if we put a representative of EPA there. So far, he has not been able to answer that.
    I am in support of what Hon Anyimadu- Antwi put before the House that inasmuch as we would want to get all the stakeholders involved, mining is an activity.
    We agree that EPA representatives have been taken care of in other sections of the act but under the Scheme, I believe that if they also have certain policy directions, they would add a voice to if they are put on this committee. So, Mr Speaker, if no harm would be caused -- We are all concerned about how our mining communities are being degraded with mining activities and they have been charged specifically to deal with that.
    So, if there is a Fund created out of it and there is a committee, once the Chief Executive is there -- He himself made a statement, that the Chief Executive
    necessarily needs not be there but he can send a representative.
    At the Distr ict and Municipal Assemblies, they have EPA represen- tatives. He is making the argument that if there are three or four communities, there would not be one person at the District Assembly. Assuming that there is even one person at the District Assembly, he can manage. The meetings would not be happening simultaneously.
    He can do it and make sure that that voice and that angle of environmental protection are also taken care of because Ghanaians are concerned about all of that.
    So, we cannot as the representatives of the people rule that one out and say it is local. The fact that it is local even makes it more important because governance starts at the bottom. It starts bottom up at the grassroots level.
    I thank you.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 11:55 a.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Members, can you take a look at clause 5 -- Application of the Fund? The various categories there -- Do you not think the point they are making would be relevant?
    First of all, you have and I beg to quote;
    For the purpose of achieving……
    “(a) redress the harmful effects of mining on affected communities and persons;
    (b) to promote local economic development… -
    (c) undertake minerals related research and development of capacity in human resource for mining institutions and institutions that train manpower for the regulatory institutions;
    (d) undertake projects aimed at promoting the mining sector; and
    (e) supplement the operating budget of the Ministry and its agencies as provided in section…”
    If you look at these duties assigned, do you not think that if you have an environmental officer there, it would help? If it would do no harm, why do we not just include such a person?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, that is exactly why if you go to subclause 6, the governing Board of the Fund has the Ministry of Environment, Science, Technology and Innovation there.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Member, but that is up there. What about coming down?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, this is only a Scheme which is an aspect of the Fund; it is not the entire Fund. So, if we should create another scheme even under this one, are we going to bring in an environmental officer? It means we would have to go-- It talks about several issues. [Interruption] -- That is why I am asking why do we have to --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Yes, the Hon Majority Chief Whip and then after that the Hon Member.
    Alhaji Muntaka 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I believe we just have to move a further amendment and then we put it to vote; if the majority of Hon Members think that we should not have environmental officers there, then it should stay. Those who want it to be there, should be.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Chairman of the Committee, are you in agreement?
    Yes, Hon Member, you were up; let us hear you.
    Mr Ebenezer O. Terlabi 12:05 p.m.
    Thank you, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker, I believe that, yes, they are supposed to administer the Fund, but they also need to act based on information that is supposed to come from the community. Who gathers or gives that information? Whoever gives the information to the committee that is supposed to administer the Fund must be well informed on the issues on the ground.
    That is why we need somebody who understands environmental issues at the local level, so that he can inform the Board.
    Mr Speaker, therefore, the Board takes uninformed decisions when it comes to disbursement for the use of the money. I believe that, yes, we have them at the top, but we need an environmental officer at the bottom level to inform them.
    When it comes to even implementation, when funds are released, we need somebody who is informed and knows what he is about at the local level, so that we can have the necessary impact on the Fund.
    Otherwise, from top to bottom, they might bring programmes that would not be well understood at the local level. This is because we would not have the people with the required expertise. That is the reason I believe that we should have it at the local level rather than the top. This is because everything is supposed to start from the bottom to the top.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Members, in order for us to make some progress, let me find out from the Hon Chairman; if you do not agree with the proposed further amendment, I will put that Question first and if the majority of Hon Members agree, then it becomes part of your proposed amendment. If you agree with them, we take it from there.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I do not think it takes anything away from the object. Even though I have my reservations and doubts, I would want to go alongside the majority of Hon Members. This is because seriously, I would have thought that --
    Mr Speaker, this is because if you go down and read -- I do not know whether Hon Members have the entire Bill. If they had it and they were reading, they would understand. Mr Speaker, but it looks like they are only using the information on the Order Paper to argue.
    If they had it and they even go down to read who the Manager and the Chief Executive Officer are, the functions of that Fund and what they are supposed to do, I do not think it would have been necessary to also add an officer from EPA. It is going to be so many of them.
    Mr Speaker, but in order that we make progress, I would give in and allow the further amendment to be moved.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Very well.
    In that case, Hon Members, I will put the Question with regard to the proposed amendment and the further amendment.
    I thought we had solved it -- Hon Member?
    Mr George Loh 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in seconding the Hon Majority Chief Whip, I would want to further amend that they are talking about EPA officers, but they may not have offices in all the districts.
    I know that we do have District Environmental Health Officers who are everywhere. They are in every District Assembly. So, I think we should rather change the representative of the EPA to District Environmental Health officers. This is because they are in every District Assembly. So, it is easy for them to do the work and report back.
    Mr Speaker, that is the further amendment I wish to make.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Member, sorry, I lost track. Can you go over your submission?
    Mr Loh 12:05 p.m.
    The proposal is that officers of EPA should be the representatives at the District Assembly. I am saying that these officers are not in every District Assembly. What we do have is the District Health Environmental Officers who are already in every District Assembly.
    So, I propose a further amendment that, instead of the representative of the EPA, the District Health Environmental Officers should be the representative on the Board, so that they can advise on environment related issues.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    I understand him perfectly.
    Mr Speaker, but the Environmental Health Officers he is talking about are normally what we refer to as “borlaborla” or “samasama” in the local parlance. They do not know mining activities; they are not with the EPA. In fact, they are more into local governance and health. So, we cannot use them to represent -- They do not know anything about the mines.
    So, those ones are completely different. They deal with the environment -- When someone has not swept his or her room or cleared their borla --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Members, I feel that once the Hon Chairman has agreed to the further amendment, we do not need to stretch the matter any further. Once the Hon Chairman has agreed that it does not take anything away from it, I will put the Question.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 19 add the following new subclause:
    “(3) A prominent person in the community appointed by the Board in consultation with the District Assembly and traditional authorities of the mining community shall be the Chairperson of the Local Management Committee.”
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    What is the rationale behind it?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the rationale is that, for the appointment of a prominent person to be the Chairman of the Local Management Committee, it takes off friction. This is a mining community where everybody knows that
    this is the man who all of us relate to. So, when one appoints a prominent person who has been agreed to by those who we have mentioned, it gives credibility and allows for -- [Interruption] -- No! It is not the one leading in the galamsey.
    Mr Speaker, we thought of all these and came to the realisation that it was better we allowed a prominent -- We are not saying that we should -- The prominent person should be the Chairman and not just a --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    It depends on what you mean by “prominent”.
    Dr Ahmed Yakubu Alhassan 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I have a challenge with the definition of “prominent”. I do not know why it could not just be a person nominated by the Board. It would be difficult to legally define “prominent”. So, why can it not just be “a person” and that would be it?
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Chairman of the Committee, before you respond, let us hear from the Hon Member.
    Ms Safo 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Chairman does not seem to get the input of the argument of the Hon Member or from you.
    Mr Speaker, the definition of “a prominent person” is very subjective. So, if you put in a legislation, “a prominent person”, it is relative who a prominent person is in any society. My interpretation or choice of “a prominent person” might be different from that of the Hon Chairman.
    So, in drafting, just as the Hon Member said, the word “prominent” should go.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Very well.
    So, we delete the word “prominent”.
    Ms Safo 12:05 p.m.
    This is because we have not defined or given the parameters within which to define who a “prominent person” is.
    Mr First Deouty Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Do not worry; we have agreed to delete the word “prominent”.
    Ms Safo 12:05 p.m.
    He was st ill using “prominent”
    Ms Safo 12:05 p.m.
    That is why.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    He has agreed to delete it.
    Alhaji Abdul-Rashid Pelpuo 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it could be that the framers of the legislation are thinking about somebody of a certain class and standard. So, we might not change the -- If we change the “prominent”, we should bring in something that defines that person. For example, we could say, “a person of any good standing in any profession”. That is the description of a person of prominence.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    What if you do not have any professional in the community?
    Alhaji Pelpuo 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, any profession, if you are farmer, a lawyer, you should be of good standing. So, any person of any profession of good standing.
    Mr Haruna Iddrisu 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, first of all, I would want to serve notice and indulge that before you put the Question on the entire clause 19 as amended, I would want to raise a small constitutional query, which can be rectified. But on the specific matter now being discussed, I
    could not agree more with the Hon Pelpuo by suggesting that we can still open it up by saying, “a person of good standing.” That in every society, respected persons of that society would be of a certain standing, but if you just say --
    In every society, when we come to our constituencies, we know people who are of good standing, including persons who have earned a certain respect. But to just leave it at the level of a person, I do not think it is adequate enough.
    So, we should qualify the kind of person we want. If it is a person of good standing, it means a person recognised by the society to play a certain role.
    I am sure for our purposes, we may be looking for an opinion leader or a representative --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    I was going to ask you what you mean by “a person of good standing”. In normal parlance, it is like a person who has paid his or her dues belonging to a club or society. So, how do you --?
    Mr Haruna Iddrisu 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, if I can borrow your legal words, “a person of substance and not of straw”. That is the legal definition of a person of good standing?
    Ms Safo 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, Hon Haruna Iddrisu is bringing another side of it but just as you rightly said, to use the phrase “a person of good standing” --I mean at the Ghana Bar Association, when you pay your dues, then you are in good standing.
    A person of good standing in the society, who measures it? In this case, we have the Ghana Bar Association that is the overseeing body and they are determining whether one is in good standing, based on the payment of one's dues. So, we cannot insert that one here.
    We cannot insert it with “a person who has paid his taxes”. So, we have to insert in the definition section what we actually mean. Other than that, we can use the ordinary meaning, which is that, one is a member of an association and there are certain things one has to follow and then has followed them. For that matter, one is said to be in good standing. That is my understanding.
    So, we should stick to just “a person,” so that we do not run into multiple interpretations and problems.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Deputy Minister for Food and Agriculture. Then I will come back to you Hon Chairman.
    Dr A. Y. Alhassan 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I believe that all these concerns have been addressed by the process of appointing the person. It is the Board that is appointing but it is doing so in consultation with the District Assembly and traditional authorities. I do not see how all these people can consult and appoint somebody who is not of good standing. I would be most surprised, particularly--
    I think the emphasis is that, the person must be in the community appointed by the Board and in consultation with the Distr ict Assembly and traditional authorities. These are all ways and means of getting somebody who is of good standing, so that we do not have to put it in the law.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Very well.
    Dr A. Y. Alhassan 12:05 p.m.
    Thank you.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Members, so, do we go back to the status
    quo where the Hon Chairman has agreed to the deletion of the word “prominent”? We will leave the word “person” for the Board to take care of it in its consultation.
    All right. Very well.
    So, once we have come to that agreement, I will put the Question.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 19, add the following new subclause:
    “(6) Despite subsections 1 and 3, the management of a Mining Com- munity Development Scheme deemed to be established under this Act by section 16 (2) shall serve as the Local Management Committee of that scheme.”
    Mr Speaker, the amendment is to maintain the management of existing mining community development schemes. If we do not do that, it means, they have not been recognised under this law. So, it is deemed that since they are already there, we are giving them the recognition.
    I do not think it is also controversial and I do not expect Hon Adwoa Safo to stand up.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    You cannot tell her.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I said I do not expect -- [Laughter.]
    Ms Safo 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I thank you for interceding on my behalf.
    Unless I belong to the ancient drafting class -- I am not comfortable with the use of the word “despite” beginning the sentence. I was taught that in such draftings or sections, “notwithstanding” -- Unless I belong to the old drafting -- “despite” --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Can we leave it with the draftspersons?
    Ms Safo 12:05 p.m.
    The draftspersons should look at it again. This is not the right thing.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Very well.
    So, we will put the Question.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Hon Members, I direct that the draftspersons deal with the issue with regard to the use of the word “despite” or “in spite” and so on. I will not put the Question with regard to the whole of clause 19 as amended.
    This is because there are some issues that the Committee would want to look at. So, I will defer that one for us to look at it later.
    Mr H. Iddrisu 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, once you are on clause 19, I would probably raise it so that, you can accordingly refer it to the Hon Chairman and the Attorney-General's Drafts office.
    I am looking at the Constitution under article 243 (1), where, with your indulgence, I beg to quote:
    “There shall be a District Chief Executive for every district who shall be appointed by the President with the prior approval of not less than two-thirds majority of members of the Assembly present and voting at the meeting.”
    Mr Speaker, in clause 19 (2) (a), I know that it says;
    “The Chief Executive of the District Assembly…”
    The two cannot mean the same. If we are borrowing and lifting, we should do exactly what the Constitution contem- plates and provides.
    Mr Speaker, again, there in clause 19 (2) (b), the words “a traditional ruler” and “the traditional ruler” are not the same and do not convey the same meaning. So, I would accordingly wish that you defer it but on the constitutional matter, I think it is important that we do not do anything that would drive -- [Interruption] -- I think so, Mr Speaker.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:05 p.m.
    Very well.
    I direct that, the Committee takes a look at the issue raised in addition to other issues raised before we put the final Question with regard to clause 19 as variously amended.
    Yes, Hon Chairman of the Committee, clause 20. There is no advertised amendment.
    Clause 20 ordered to stand part of the Bill.
    Clause 21 -- Disbursement of the Fund.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 21 -- subclause (1), line 1, delete “Funds” and insert “Fund”.
    It is only one Fund. So, it is a typographical error.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:05 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 21 -- subclause (3), line 1, delete “(c)” and insert “(e)”.
    Mr Speaker, it should have been “(e)” and not “(c)”. This is also a typographical error.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Clause 21?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, “clause 21, subclause (3), paragraph (a), line 2, delete “utilised” and insert “disbursed”.
    This is to improve on the clarity of the provision. The Bill uses the word “utilised” instead of “disbursed”. This is just to improve the clarity.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Very well.
    Question put and amendment agreed to.
    AlhajiSorogho 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, “clause 21, subclause (3), paragraph (c), line 1, delete “ten” and insert “four”.
    Mr Speaker, this was taken with several reasons -- the reduction of the proposed allocation to the Ministry of Lands and Natural Resources -- is to reflect the role of the Ministry in development of policy planning. The allocation should go to the implementing agencies, the institutions, that do the real work.
    So, we decided that having gone through and having listened to all of them and the various representations, we were more than convinced that the 10 per cent
    allocated to the Ministry, just for monitoring is too much as against the institutions that are doing the real work. So, we all agreed and it was reduced from 10 to four.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Very well.
    Since the Hon Deputy Minister is with you, I take it that he agrees.
    Hon Member s , I wi l l pu t t h e Question --
    Mr H. Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
    -- rose --
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Minister?
    Mr H. Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, thank you very much.
    I appreciate the amendment moved by the Hon Chairman but my difficulty, and if I can seek your leave, would be to introduce a new amendment to qualify all those percentages -- whether 10, five, four or as he wants.
    So, Mr Speaker, I beg to move that we begin it with “not more than four per cent …” “Not more than”. We should give them a certain ceiling and not just be specific in saying that spend four per cent of the budget for this purpose.
    So, I indulge the Hon Chairman and Mr Speaker, with your leave, beg to move, clause 21 (3) (a), (b), (c), (d), (e) and (f) -- add “not more than”, so that this Parliament would monitor and ensure that they do not operate outside a certain ceiling for those purpose.
    And if the Hon Deputy Minister would explain, I have a difficulty with the use of the word “operating” in the sentence -- shall be allocated to supplement the “operating budget”. What does the word
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Hon Chairman of the Committee, can you respond?
    AlhajiSorogho 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, his first statement is well noted. We can make amendments to accommodate that “not more than four per cent”. They may not even need up to four per cent. So, if you give them a ceiling of four per cent it means that, whether they need it, they will take. So, “not more than” I do not have a problem.
    As for the operational budget, Mr Speaker, that is how the Bill came and the Hon Minister was here to explain, he did not object to it. I do not know what it will add or subtract from the object. So, we accepted it as an operational budget. But if we would want to take it and say that it will help in their budget, I do not have any problem with that.
    But I do not know what it cures -- it does not bring any effect on it. The most important thing is that, it is to support in their budgetary allocation, so that they can do more.
    Mr H. Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Deputy Minister and the Hon Chairman do not have any objection. Mr Speaker, I beg to move, “not more than ten of the money shall be allocated to supplement the operations of the Ministry” Normally we say “policy oversight”, “supervision of the Ministry”. But to say “operating budget” is what -- [Interruption]
    All right. The Hon Deputy Minister says “to support the operations of the Ministry” instead of “operating budget”.
    Thank you.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Hon Chairman of the Committee?
    AlhajiSorogho 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, we would accept the word “operation” because it is limited to the mining operation. If you just say “budget” -- you are allowing it to be applied to other areas. But with this one, the Fund is not to be used -- because when you do that, you are defeating the object of the Fund. [Interruption] --
    No! It is also part of operations. To supervise operations of the mining sector, is still operations. Mr Speaker, we will take it like that.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Very well.
    So, Hon Members, let us clean it up. Now, you have agreed to the prefix “not more than” when it comes to the percentages. And you have also agreed to the fact that the word should be “operation”. Right?
    What do you say to the suggestion he made that instead of “operational budget” we should have -- he suggested a word --
    Mr H. Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am on my feet again.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:25 p.m.
    Wildlife?
    Mr H. Iddrisu 12:25 p.m.
    Yes. It is under the Ministry of Lands and Natural Resources. So, we are saying that qualify what this allocation to the Ministry would do, specific to mining and not general.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Chairman of the Committee?
    AlhajiSorogho 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, if he can clean up his amendment we are prepared to listen to it and adopt it, because it is exactly what we are saying -- it must be limited to the operations of the mining sector, so that we cannot just apply it anywhere.
    Hon Minister, if you can help us with that rendition, we would be more than happy to receive it.
    Ms Safo 12:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I very much agree with Hon HarunaIddrisu but also with the insertion that the Hon Chairman made as to “operations”, it is a wider word and he wants to restrict it to mining operations.
    So, we could further amend it as follows before “operations” put “mining” so that it becomes very restrictive to that. This is because the Ministry undertakes a lot of things under operations. So, we can prefix “operations” with “mining”.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Very well.
    I will want an Hon Member to propose a further amendment, so that we can take it along.
    Ms Safo 12:25 p.m.
    ThereforeMr Speaker, I beg to move, section 21 (3) (c) be further amended to read “not more than ten per cent of the money shall be allocated to supplement the mining operations of the Ministry”.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:25 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Member, please go over it again.
    Ms Safo 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move that we amend section 21 (3) (c) to read “not more than ten per cent of the money shall be allocated to supplement the mining operations of the Ministry”.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, there is an amendment reducing the percentage from ten to four. All we are saying is that and which I agree is that we should not bring the “budget” -- “mining opera- tions” is alright.
    So, we are amending to take away the “budget”. But you are still going back to ten per cent, which means that you have not even taken care of the amendment, which has already been proposed. So, “not more than four per cent”.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Minister?
    Mr H. Iddrisu 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, further to my Colleague's suggestion, may I seek your leave to request the Hon Chairman that we say “not more than five per cent of the money shall be allocated to the Ministry for mining operations or to support mining operations.”
    Mr Speaker, here is Parliament. I have heard the Hon Chairman retort even though not to your ears, that they cannot accept it. Here is Parliament. We are saying that allocate not more than five per cent.
    It means they can stay within his 4 per cent, but for some other purposes, one cannot determine the future. What the Ministry would need to do, is to fight illegal mining operations, and they need a budget. I am further proposing that it should not be more than 5 per cent.
    Mr Speaker, I so move.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Hon Minister, are you changing the figure from four to five?
    AlhajiSorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in my opinion, we still have to take our time and read. This is because, with regard to clause 21, the sub-title is “Disbursement of the Fund”, and it flows from the top. We are only in the middle fighting, leaving the head. It says that 50 per cent is allocated to the Administrator of stool lands, 20 per cent is allocated to the Mining Community Development Scheme.
    Then below, where the Ministry is we are saying that not more than four 4 per cent should be allocated, to which I agree. Then it has been distributed to the last end to get the 100 per cent.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Members, in my opinion, to solve this problem, I will give directives. I direct that wherever a percentage is quoted in clause 21, preceding it should be the expression “not more than”. So, I direct the drafters to carry that out.
    When it comes to the issue of “operating budget,” we delete the word “budget” and put in its place, “mining operations”. Are we alright.
    AlhajiSorogho 12:35 p.m.
    It makes sense.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Members, this means, wherever we have “operational budget”, we delete “operational budget” and insert “mining operations”. So, we are specific.
    Now, have we completed the amendments on clause 21?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, with your directive, clause 21, amendments numbered xiii, xiv and xv on the Order
    Paper, follow the same suit. We may have to go to xvi which differs from the others. That is by your directive.
    But if you would want me to go through all, I can.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Are we abandoning the proposed amendments?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    No, Mr Speaker. The amendments are all carried. It is because you have given the directive.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Is it consequential?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Yes, it is conse- quential.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Then, as I indicated, with regard to clause 19, I am not going to put the Question with respect to clause 21 as variously amended until you are done with all the cleaning. We will then come and put the Question with regard to clause 21 as variously amended.
    Do you not agree with that?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, with your directive, we have solved the problem with clause 21 on items 13(xiii), 13(xiv) and 13(xv). Where we may have to go is clause 21 items 13(xvi) and 13(xvii). We can amend those ones because they are different. After which we can put the Question on clause 21 as variously amended.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Are we moving on to item 13(xvi)?
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Yes, Chairman of the Committee?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 21, subclause (3), paragraph (f), line 3, delete “mining” and insert “mining; and”
    Mr Speaker, it is consequential.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Is it also consequential?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Yes!
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Very well.

    Yes, Hon Chairman of the Committee?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, because we are adding a “g” to sub-clause 3, that is why that one would now come, and make room for the “g”, which is coming.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    What happens to that?
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    The sub-clause now comes with the “g” because that is the last amendment of the sub-clause 3.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Hon Members, I will want us to complete this. Then, I will leave the Chair for the Rt Hon Speaker to take over, and we will listen to the two Leaders as far as the Government's Financial Policy for 2016 is concerned.
    Alhaji Sorogho 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I beg to move, clause 21, subclause (3), add the following new paragraph:
    “(g), two percent of the moneys shall be allocated to management of the Fund”
    It should read “not more than two per cent shall be allocated to the Fund”, just like you have directed, so that they can have money to manage the Fund.
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Very well.
    Yes, Hon Minister?
    Mr H. Iddrisu 12:35 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, on clause 21, I note that you would want to put the Question, but could the Hon Chairman just offer an explanation on sub-clause 21(2), which says:
    “The Board shall disburse moneys from the Fund for goods and services …”
    Why is it for only goods and services? Can one spend on capital expenditure? I think that there is a problem there. Why is it for only goods and services?
    Mr First Deputy Speaker 12:35 p.m.
    Yes, Hon Chairman of the Committee, how do you respond to that?
    Hon Members, I shall not put the Question as regards, to clause 21 as variously amended. That would be dealt with later.
    So Hon Members, this brings us to the end of the Consideration Stage for today.
    Hon Members, the Rt Hon Speaker will take over the Chair.
    Mr Speaker 12:44 p.m.
    Hon Majority Leader, can we now move to item number 5?
    Mr Bagbin 12:44 p.m.
    That is so, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker 12:44 p.m.
    Hon Member Minority Leader, you have the floor.
    Item number 5 -- Motions.
    MOTIONS 12:44 p.m.

  • [Resumption of debate from Tuesday, 8/12/15]
  • Minority Leader (Mr Osei Kyei- Mensah-Bonsu 12:44 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, thank you for this opportunity to wind up this debate on the budget.
    Mr Speaker, before I start, it is important to set the record straight in the House. Even before I left, I have had, as usual, a discussion with my Hon Colleague, that I was travelling out and that I was due in today and that if I was able to get here in due time, I would do the winding up. I had spoken to my Hon Colleague, the Deputy Minority Leader, that if I was not around, he should hold the fort.
    So I thought that because I was not around, he would be given the opportunity to do the winding up but the Majority Leader has explained that they were waiting until 12 noon to see whether I would appear. Be that as it may, it is important that people know that I was not holding the House down.
    Mr Speaker, on Friday, November 13th, 2015, the Hon Minister for Finance, Mr Seth Emmanuel Terkper, on the authority of His Excellency John DramaniMahama, President of the Republic, presented to Parliament, the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2016 financial year.
    Mr Speaker, from the presentation, it is clear that a statement that the condition of the economy is unsound, is a huge understatement. Ghanaians have been lamenting about the sliding back in their living conditions; the eternally escalating cost of living; the dumsor dumsor conundrum; the lack of jobs; collapsing industr ies; fiscal drag; an eternally depreciating cedis; withering and wilting agriculture; high inflation; choking debt burden.
    Mr Speaker, as I indicated at the very outset, after the Hon Minister had laboured through the presentation, I told him that the b udget was full of perspiration but little inspiration. And it is clear that the managers of our economy have come to their wit's ends and are incapable of generating any new idea to fix the economy as the President assured he was going to do.
    Mr Speaker, in July, 2015, the Minister for Finance submitted to Parliament a mid- year review of the Budget Statement and Economic Policy. At the same time presented supplementary estimates for consideration. It emerged from that presentation that the economic per- formance of 2014 was worse than previously anticipated. The 2015 Budget has restated that fact just as the 2013 performance was worse than 2012; and 2012 was worse than 2011.
    Mr Speaker, we in the New Patriotic Party (NPP) have repeatedly drawn attention to the great level of non- performance and non-achievements of this Administration in the management of the country's economy.
    In 2014, the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth rate was 4.0 per cent, against the target of 7.1 per cent. The agriculture sector dwindled by 4.6 against the target of 5.2. Industry grew by an abysmal 0.8 per cent against the target of 6.8 per cent while the service sector grew
    by 5.6 against a target of 7.2 per cent. Inflation ended the year at 17 per cent -- against a target of 13 per cent; exposing Government's single digit inflation propaganda. Besides, in 2014, the current account balance had a deficit of over 9 per cent of GDP while the budget deficit was 10.2 per cent of GPD against the target of 8.8 per cent.
    Worse still, the cumulative deprecia- tion of the cedi for 2014 was 31 per cent, compared to 14.5 per cent in 2013.
    Mr Speaker, as you pointed out, after the submission of the July, 2015 mid-year review, all the macro-economic targets set in 2014 were missed, leading to hardships for all and sundry but especially the ordinary Ghanaian.
    Mr Speaker, at the time, we questioned the President on whose the authority the Minister had submitted both the 2015 Budget and the mid-year review how these missed targets could drive a transformation agenda to build a better Ghana for all of us.
    Mr Speaker, the theme for the 2016 Budget Statement itself was transforma- tional agenda -- securing the bright medium-term prospects of the economy. The Hon Minister at the time stated, and I am quoting him:
    “Ghana's successful structural transformation rests on three strategic interventions, namely:
    1. strengthening and deepening the essential elements and institutions of good governance;
    2. promoting export-led growth through products that build on Ghana's comparative strength in
    agriculture and raw materials; and
    3.anchoring industrial development through prudent use of natural resources based on locally processed value addition.”
    Mr Speaker, the legitimate questions to ask include the following 12:44 p.m.
    1. Has the economy been secured, in other words, free from danger, trouble or uncertainty?
    2. Has the John Mahama Administration strengthened the institutions of good governance?
    3. How has agriculture fared? Is it growing or staggering to promote export-led growth?
    4. How is industry faring under President John Mahama?
    5. Are we creating net employment or throwing many more people into the streets?
    Mr Speaker, since the 2016 Budget is the last budget for President John Mahama's four-year term and the NDC's eight-year term in office, it is worth analysing the trend of growth and making the relevant comparisons. The GDP growth rate which was inherited in 2000 by President Kufuor was 3.7 per cent.
    In 2001, the GDP grew at 4.2; in 2002, it was 4.5, rising to 5.2 in 2003 and to 5.6 in 2004. It rose to 5.9 in 2005; 6.4 in 2006; 6.3 in 2007; and 7.3 in 2008, which was later reviewed to 8.4 per cent after the rebasing of the economy. This, indeed, to state for the umpteenth time, is steady growth and it occurred without revenue from crude oil export.
    This compares to the wretched growth rate achieved by the Mills/Mahama Administrations.

    Mr Speaker, in 2009, the growth rate swung down to 4.0 per cent; in 2010, it grew at 8.0 per cent and up to 14 per cent even though as late as December, 2014, the NDC Government insisted that it had achieved a 15 per cent unprecedented growth rate. This figure has tinkered on three occasions. Today, we are back to 14 per cent. It is important to stress that 2011 was the first time revenue from oil export was added to the GDP.

    For 2012, the GDP growth rate registered 8.8 per cent; climbing down 7.6 per cent in 2013 and plummeting to 4.1 per cent in 2014. The provisional GDP growth rate for 2015 is 4.1 per cent.

    Mr Speaker, for the first time, since the inclusion of oil revenues, beginning from 2011, the non-oil component of the GDP growth of 4.2 is higher than the overall real GDP growth rate of 4.1 per cent.

    Mr Speaker, in 2014, the revised figures indicatd the GDP growth rate was 4.0 per cent, same as the non-oil GDP growth.

    Mr Speaker, exchange rates --
    Mr Speaker 12:55 p.m.
    Hon Member for Sekondi?
    Papa Owusu-Ankomah 12:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it seems there is so much background noise.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 12:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the cedi depreciated cumulatively by 14.8 per cent against the dollar in 12.6 per cent against the pound sterling. Today, GH¢3.85 trades for US$1. In the eight-year Administration of President Kufuor, the cedi depreciated cumulatively from the base year of 2001 to ending December, 2008 by 53 per cent.
    Seven years into the NDC Adminis- tration, the cedi has depreciated by over 250 per cent, and we are yet to enter the 2016 election year.
    Mr Speaker, interest rates now hover around 26 per cent, and lending rates in the banks are now about 33 per cent, even though the Hon Minister would like Ghanaians to believe that it is 29 per cent. We all deal with the banks, and we know the lending rates at the banks. We cannot be in a state of denial.
    Mr Speaker, the former President, Mr. J.A. Kufuor's administration brought lending rates down from 42 per cent to 25 per cent. The gross international reserve today covers 2.8 months. The foreign assets include foreign encumbered assets and oil funds. The net international reserves as we speak today cover less than three weeks.
    Mr Speaker, the country's fiscal deficit and current account deficit have escalated since 2008. Today the public debt stock is over GH¢100 billion. In December 2008 it was GH¢9.5 billion. The Hon Minister for Finance was not candid with Ghanaians when he put the figure at GH¢92 billion. The GH¢9.5 billion debt in 2008 represented less than 30 per cent of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) at that time. The GH¢100 billion debt stock is 10.5 times or over 1000 per cent increase in the debt stock. The debt stock today has risen to 74 per cent of the GDP.
    Mr Speaker, the GH¢9.5 billion debt at the end of 2008 meant that every Ghanaian at that time per capita owed GH¢406, given the population of about 23,385 or 23,375 at that time.
    Mr Speaker, the GH¢100 billion means that every Ghanaians, every one of us 27 million Ghanaians, including the child delivered as I speak now owes GH¢3,700; from GH¢406 to GH¢3,700 in just seven years. That is the tragedy of our times.
    Mr Speaker, only two years ago in 2013, the per capita debt was GH¢2000. As at December last year, it had grown to GH¢2,800 per capita. Today, over a period of just one year, the debt per capita has escalated by 32 per cent. Just within one year, that is the tragedy of the incompetence that people are talking about.
    Mr Speaker, the country is certainly over-borrowing and astronomically increasing our debt burden, which has caused the 70 per cent debt sustainability threshold, and that should be exceedingly worrying as it is tipping the country into the League of Nations with high risk of debt distress.
    Mr Speaker, these represent the hard facts -- the gory circumstances of our economic fundamentals. They represent the gathering of a storm heralding an impending cataclysm, and certainly not any bright medium term that must be consolidated, as the Hon Minister would like us to believe.
    Mr Speaker, the 2013 average economic growth rate in the countries in the West Africa monetary zone, all of whom, except Nigeria, are non-oil producing, was higher than Ghana's. In 2014 just as in 2015, the average GDP growth in these non-oil economies was stronger than Ghana's, an oil producing economy.
    For the third successive year, Ghana could not even achieve one of the ten convergence criteria. Even for the sixth rationalized macro-economic convergence criteria, Ghana scored zero out of the six and placed us last in the league of the table of nations, including Gambia, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Guinea Conakry and Nigeria. That is the abysmal record that we are all living witnesses of, and for the
    second successive year, the Hon Minister for Finance knowing Ghana's true position, has refused to publish the league of performance in the various countries, as is captured in the budget.
    For the second successive year, the Hon Minister owes us an explanation why he refused to publish that league in the budget. Last year he did not do it for the first time. This year he has repeated it. Why does he refuse to do that? All relevant information for proper budgeting must be made available in an accessible form.
    Budget information must be accurate, reliable and comprehensive. The people must be told the truth, and the truth is that for the third year running Ghana could not attain even one of the ten convergence criteria. This, indeed is the hallmark of a very abysmal performance.
    Mr Speaker, if one factors supplemen- tary budgets since 2009, this 2016 Budget is the 17th budget in seven years that the NDC has been in Government. All of them promised “Better Ghana”, yet the outcomes consistently have been very abysmal and represents a prodigal waste of our time, resources and opportunities availed to this country.
    It is important to re-emphasize for the records that no Government since independence has had the amount of resources in terms of tax revenue, cocoa exports, gold exports, oil revenue and loans as the current NDC administration.
    Mr Speaker, over the past three weeks, Parliament has been considering loans totaling over US$500 million. This is not part of the GH¢100 billion.
    Mr Speaker, the borrowing is certainly humongous, and it is adding to the public debt. In US dollar terms, the NDC has
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:05 p.m.
    borrowed the equivalent of about US$37 billion in seven years -- US$37 billion in just seven years.
    Mr Speaker, it is important to set the record straight in this. In 2008 the debt stock was GH¢9.5 billion. In 2009 it climbed up to GH¢13, 2 billion. The exchange rate in 2009 was 1.42 per cent. That meant that we had added GH¢3.7 billion to the stock and in terms of US dollars we had added US$2.61 billion in just one year.
    In 2010 the debt stock climbed up to GH¢17.3 billion, an additional debt of GH¢4.1million. The exchange rate at the time was 1. 47 per cent, and it meant that the borrowing translated to US$ 2,790 million, up to 2015, where they are talking about GH¢99 or GH¢100 billion as I have said.
    Mr Speaker, the additional debt for between 2014 and 2015 is GH¢24 billion. The rate of exchange over the past year is 3.8 per cent. That translates to US$6.25 billion, and that takes the total borrowing to US$37.23 billion.
    Mr Speaker, this represents an increase in the debt stock by over 960 per cent over the seven year period, an average in the stock of debt by 137 per cent. This is a frightening rate of accumulation of debt by any standard of measure. On this track Ghana is clearly on the way back to the unsustainable debt levels that pushed us to Highly Indebted Poor Country (HIPC) status.
    Mr Speaker, this is worrying, because as the Hon Minister retorted, Ghana received HIPC relief just 11 years ago, after a similar debt binge by the previous Administration. If the current borrowing continues, the international rating
    agencies would classify Ghana as a country with high risk of debt distress. The Hon Minister knows that.
    The consequences of this designation would compromise the country's ability to raise further financing from the international capital markets and whence still disable Ghana from servicing and paying our debts.
    Mr Speaker, interest payments on the debt stock in 2014 was four times Ghana's oil revenue in 2014.

    In 2015, the interest payment amounted to more than GH¢9.6 billion. That figure was more than the total debt stock of more than the total debt stock of GH¢9.5 billion in 2008, at the end of former President Kufour's team. For which debt stock both former President Mills and the current President John Mahama lampooned the NPP Government.

    Mr Speaker, in the 2014 Budget Statement, the entire allocations to the Ministry of Roads and Highways was GH¢779 million; Ministry of Trade and Industry, GH¢256.5 million; Ministry of Fisheries and Aquaculture Development, GH¢279 million; Ministry of Food and Agriculture, GH¢128 million, Ministry of Water Resources, Works and Housing, GH¢531 million and the Ministry of Transport, GH¢89 million.

    Mr Speaker, these totaled GH¢2,062, 000,000.00. The interest payment in 2014 was more than three times what was allocated to these six key ministries.

    In 2015, the GH¢9.6 billion allocated to interest payment on the debt stock was about 3.4 times or 335 per cent of the entire allocations to these same key ministries.

    In 2016, the GH¢10.5 billion allocated to service debts is 3.74 times, in other words, 374 per cent of the entire allocation to these same six ministries, which sum up to GH¢2,216,781,531.00. The rising trend cannot be lost on the Minister for Finance and he knows that it is restricting and constricting space for development.

    Mr Speaker, given the precarious nature of Ghana's debt situation, one would have expected that some bold measures to fundamentally reduce the increasing debt overhang, which if not dealt with, will push Ghana into the high debt low growth trap, would have been fashioned out. While the Budget Statement has not dealt with the situation, the President insists that he does not borrow to marry extra wives or to drink beer. That is the answer to this question.

    Mr Speaker, the President visited the Volta Region on Thursday, November 19, 2015 to campaign for his retention as the presidential candidate for the National Democratic Congress (NDC) in the pending 2016 General Elections. He took a swip at the Minority NPP Parliament group for accusing him of over borrowing and denied that the Mills-Mahama Governments have borrowed moor than any other Government in the history of his country.

    Mr Speaker, those figures that he churned out must be figures that were conjured from the dreamland. This is because, as I have indicated, the facts do not support the assertions made by the President.

    The question is, where is the President deriving his figures from? The tragedy is that, despite all these resources at his disposal, the Government is in deep trouble. It is in arrears with the payment

    of National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS), Ghana Education Trust Fund (GETFund), District Assemblies Common Fund (DACF), contractors, teacher-trainee allowances and payments of nursing trainee allowances. Government is in arrears of national service staff and it is having trouble paying salaries of workers. Some workers have gone for 18 months without salaries.

    Mr Speaker, the Hon Deputy Finance Minister is signaling that it is not true. He knows what I am saying is true. Do not laugh over it; it is a serious matter.

    Mr Speaker, Government has put Ghana in a state of high indebtedness as was the case under the Highly Poor Indebted Countries (HIPC). The economic growth has slowed down to 4 per cent this year. Ghana's currency is the worst performing currency in Africa over the past two years. Unemployment is high and increasing. Government has committed under the International Monetary Fund is Extended Credit Facility (IMF-ECF) Programme to lay off workers after 2016 elections. Dumsor is still the order of the day, businesses are collapsing, Government has already committed under the IMF to increasing utility tariffs.

    The Public Utilites Regulatory Commission (PURC) purported consul- tations to the public on utility price increase is simply factitious and farcical. They are as usual, throwing dust into the eyes of the people.

    The cost of living has gone through the roof and the Budget Statement of 2016 offers no relief to suffering Ghanaians. Government is seriously insensitive to the plight of Ghanaians.

    Mr Speaker, it is in this regard that we referred to the 2016 Budget Statement as a dead goat budget.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:05 p.m.


    Mr Speaker, in 2015, Government declared three strategic interventions in pursuance of the transformational agenda. First,was the strengthening and deepening of essential elements and institutions of good governance.

    Second, as I have already stated, was promoting export-lead growth through products that build on Ghana's comparative strength in agricultural raw materials.

    Third, was anchoring industr ial development on prudent use of natural resources based on locally-processed value addition.

    It is within these strategic interven- tions that he Minister for Finance declared that we would consolidate progress towards a brighter medium-term. In the circumstance, it appeared very strange that when the Hon Minister beat his chest to proclaim achievements of Government over 2015, he did not mention agriculture. Yet, it was a fundamental link in the 2015 Budget Statement and neither did he mention trade and industry.

    Mr Speaker, I would want to refer us to paragraph 14 of the 2016 Budget Statement. The achievements did not list employment. In the event, how could Government boast that they have made significant improvements in the lives of the people when they are not growing agriculture, when industry is collapsing, when they are creating more unemployment in the society? They are telling Ghanaians that they have achieved significant improvements in the lives of the people of this country. Where are the facts?

    Mr Speaker, the provisional agricultural growth of 5.3 per cent in 2004, we noted

    last yea,r was on account of logging, which registered a growth of 16.5 per cent and we cautioned Government to show greater commitment to agricultural growth. One of the reasons agriculture is not doing well is because of the poltry budget allocation to the sector.

    In 2009, just 3 per cent of the entire Budget Statement was allocated to agriculture. It climbed down 1.9 per cent in 2012, 1.03 per cent in 2013 and in 2014, only 1.07 per cent of total budget allocation went to agriculture, out of the total GH¢44 billion.

    For 2015, only GH¢484.3 million, equivalent to 1.1 per cent was allocated to the Ministries of Food and Agriculture and Fisheries and Aquaculture Development.

    In the the2016, the total budget figure is GH¢50 billion and the allocations to these two ministr ies sums up to GH¢554,286,420.00, which is equivalent again to 1.1 per cent of the entire budget. All these paltry allocations have been made against the background of the Maputo Declaration, as an Hon Colleague of mine, Hon Member for Nsuta- Kwamang/Beposo in the debate pointed out.

    Mr Speaker, agriculture is stagnating and it has under performed since 2008. Real growth from agriculture tumbles from 7.4 per cent in 2008 to 7.2 per cent in 2009, through 5.3 per cent in 2010, 0.8 per cent in 2011, 2.3 per cent in 2012, 5.7 per cent in 2013, 4.6 per cent in 2014 and now, we are at the bassest of levels; 0.04 per cent for

    2015.

    Indeed, the cropssubsector which is the dominant sector in agriculture, experienced a negative growth rate of negative 1.7 per cent. The stagnation in agriculture found expression in the importation of billions of foodstuffs into

    the country in 2014 as against GH¢600 million in 2008. The import of fish, poultry, tomatoes and cooking oil, have all doubled since 2008. The production of basic staples -- cereals, legumes, roots and tubers have all been stagnating.

    The huge yearly vaccinations in output and the rising import of rice from 395,000 metric tonnes in 2008 to 543,465 metric tonnes in 2011, over 600,000 metric tonnes in 2013, for which alone US$374 million -- and I refer to the State of the Nation Address of 2014, page 11, testify to the escalating food insecurity in the country.

    Mr Speaker, in 2012, the crop subsector grew by 0.8 per cent. In 2015, crop subsector was projected to grow at 5.8 per cent. Later in the review, it was reviewed downwards to 4.1 per cent. Yet the crop subsector grew at -1.7 per cent which was 141.5 per cent short of what was anticipated to be produced.

    Mr Speaker, the production of meat and fish has not seen much growth. One could go on and on. Mr Speaker, there has been a steady increase in the importation of livestock and poultry products from 128,000 metric tonnes in 2008 to 139,000 metric tonnes in 2011. GH¢170 million was spent on this in 2013 and GH¢283 million was spent to import fish.

    Mr Speaker, Government's extreme “seriousness”on poultry policy is reflected in the fact that from 2013 to 2014, Government raised and distributed 8,000 cockerels to 500 farmers nationwide. Each farmer had 16 cockerels. As a nation, we are proud to report this is in the budget.

    In 2015, 320 female guinea fowl farmers from the Northern, Upper East and Upper West Regions were given a total of 1,600 birds as a start-upstock. It means that each

    farmer had five birds and we are proud to report this in the budget.
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader, you have spoken for 30 minutes. I will give you additional five minutes.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I am revving up.
    Mr Speaker, for those of them who are confused --
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    I will give you additional five minutes.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, hold your peace.
    Mr Speaker, I am responding on this occasion to the President who sent his Hon Minister for Finance to come to this House. I am not responding to the Hon Majority Leader; I am responding to the President.Mr Speaker, you know what I am talking about.
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    I know. You can respond by summarising your points. I am giving you additional five minutes.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I believe that you do not want to constrict things. I believe that you will unplug me to let me speak to the truth.
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    I always give you space.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the deficit in meat production in the country is 126,610 metric tonnes and clearly, distributing 30,000 brooded cockerels to 1,500 farmers in five regions in 2015 -- That is paragraph 380 of the budget -- translating to 20 birds per farmer, is a mere pinprick.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.


    Howsoever, distributing 650 sheep and 450 goats to 90 farmers in 2015 and distributing 450 animals to 90 farmers in 2016 -- I refer to paragraph 381 -- is going to reduce the 126,000 metric tonnes of meat deficit, remains to be seen.

    Mr Speaker, in 2016, the Ministry is telling Ghanaians that 700 start-up pigs are to be distributed to farmers all over the country. Refer to paragraph 382. To all intents and purposes, these efforts are monumental gimmicks. They will not solve any problem.

    Mr Speaker, now, premix fuel. In 2009, the administration of the NDC Government established local premix committees to ensure what they considered a fairer distribution of premix fuel to fishermen.

    Mr Speaker, just a bit on industry -- the third strategic intervention which the Hon Minister spoke about, which Government declared to concentrate on in 2014, was industrial development.

    The plain truth is that, just like Agriculture, industry is tottering. Industry was targeted to grow at 6.8 per cent in 2014. It only grew by 4.6 and that was driven by petroleum activities, which grew at 18.2 per cent at the time. Mr Speaker, I refer to paragraph 44 of the 2015 Budget.

    Manufacturing grew at -8 per cent. Construction grew at 12.8 per cent. Employment in construction, as we have been pointing out, is usually short term and transitional. The real deal is in manufacturing which is not doing well.

    In 2015, manufacturing industry is for the second successive year growing in the negative minus 2.0 per cent. Manu- facturing is not doing well because of lack of access to both long term and medium term credit facilities. The manufacturing industry is contracting because Government is over-borrowing from the banks and squeezing out private entrepreneurs.

    Thirdly, interest rates have soared. Fourth, is the erratic nature of utility supply to industry. Fifth, is the high cost of utility services. Sixth is the interminable power outages. Seventh, is the huge taxes imposed on industry and finally, the depreciation of the cedi. The volatility of the exchange rate is troubling industry and it renders the fiscal environment unpredictable. Ghana is losing its competitiveness in the sub-region.

    Mr Speaker, the escalating cost of doing business, as I have already pointed out earlier, leads us to the highway of declining consumer and investor confidence in the system.

    One thought that the prime concern of the Hon Minister for Finance was to devise mechanisms to stimulate growth in investor and consumer confidence. Alas, it turned out to be a falling hope.

    In 2011, the trade deficit was GH¢3.1 billion. In 2012, the deficit was GH¢12.2 billion. In 2013, merchandised export was GH¢13.7 billion while total merchandised import amounted to GH¢17.6 billion.

    The pattern continued in 2014. The worsening balance of trade position

    contributed to the huge current account deficit of GH¢5.7 billion in 2013 and the consequent colossal depreciation of the cedi.

    In 2015, the deficit in trade was indeed, minimum but it was not because of any prudence in management. It was artificial. That explains why the cedi continued to plummet.

    Mr Speaker, the free fall of the cedi resulted in the over exposure of local traders who were unable to protect their working capital. Many Ghanaian retailers in 2014 and 2015, just as in 2014, were forced to close their shops because they were operating at a loss.

    The huge cost of transportation as a result of frequent increases in the price of petroleum prices already eight times, this year, has occasioned huge price differential between the farm gate and the markets in the cities. These are matters that call for Government's intervention, yet the 2016 Budget and Economic Policy provides no clue.

    Mr Speaker, where agriculture is non- performing and industry, especially manufacturing industry is nose-diving, employment cannot be generated. That is all the more scary given the fact that Government, in dealing with the IMF, has agreed to emit freeze on employment. We need to provide employment to increase productivity and generate growth, yet the 2016 Budget offers no new bold measures.

    In 2008, the ruling NDC, in their manifesto, assured the nation to apply state machinery and resources to create jobs for the people, especially for the youth. Their strategic objective reads:

    “To provide every Ghanaian with a job from which they could earn their livelihood”

    That is at page 60 of the 2008 Manifesto of the NDC.

    Even though the combined strength of Public and Civil Servants in the country is less than 700 thousand, the NDC propagandists and ‘misinformation' Ministers claim that, they had, by 2010, created 1.5million jobs.

    1. 25 p.m.
    rose
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Do you have a point of order?
    Mr Ahmed Ibrahim 1:15 p.m.
    Yes, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, speaker, the point would be disregarded.
    Mr Speaker, in the 2012 --
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader, do we have any Ministry by that name? The point is whether we have any Ministry by that name. It is a very simple matter. If we do not have, then you just do what --
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I have not said that we have Ministries called “Ministry of Misinformation”. I said, through their “Misinformation Ministers”. If a Minister misinforms the country, he is a “Misinformation Minister”. For instance, if a person says
    -- 1:15 p.m.

    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader --
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, hold your peace.
    If a Deputy Minister says that “if you encounter a sheep, please, shout on top of your voice, that you have encountered a cow”. That certainly, is misinformation.
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Yes, fine.
    Hon Minority Leader, this morning, in my Lobby, we agreed as to the number of minutes to allocate to each speaker for today. I know that you are speaking for your Side and I am very slow in trying to interfere because I want to create space for the Majority as much as possible.
    But now, you have done over more than forty minutes and I think that I have really created the space for you. So, you have done over forty minutes and I want you to wind up and conclude.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, thank you very much. I will not take too much of your time.
    But let me just come to energy, which is very topical. Mr Speaker, mid 2007 and early 2008, Ghana had problems with
    electricity generation due basically to low levels of water in the Akosombo Dam, occasioned by a severe drought in 2007. At the time, the NDC, in reaction, insisted that and I am quoting them:
    “They would ensure they supply the power on a reliable and sustainable basis if they were elected into office”.
    They pledged to ensure the delivery of energy services to all consumers in a secure, efficient, reliable, sustainable, safe and environmentally friendly manner.
    My younger brother and Hon Colleague, Hon HarunaIddrisu, was more assertive in his prophecy when he proclaimed that if the NDC assumed the reins of government, “the adumadum no be gyae”.
    Blaming Kufour's Administration, that they had no business to plunge the country into power outages even in the face of the severe droughts.
    Mr Speaker, Jimmy Cliff, the reggae superstar was right in his lyrics -- “action speaks louder than words, don't be deceived by fancy talkers”.
    That is what we have in this country.
    Mr Speaker, the problems in the energy sector as we keep hammering, are self- inflicted and Government has been jittering; they owe the Electr icity Company of Ghana (ECG), they owe the Volta River Authority (VRA), they are not resourcing them to do what is right and that is why we are in what we are.
    Mr Speaker, this is because there is a lot to speak on infrastructure, for instance, because the Hon Minister spent a lot of time talking about the delivery of infrastructure. Undoubtedly, Government is doing something in the delivery of infrastructure -- roads, potable water, health facilities and educational facilities. Government is certainly doing something in these areas.
    President Mahama, as the then running mate to former President Mills, was the one who chastised former President Kufour, when the latter alluded to the delivery of projects by the New Patriotic Party (NPP)Government. The Hon John Mahama, at the time then stated that, any reference to development projects by former President Kufour was an exercise in mediocrity. Mr Speaker, this is because as he said, a Government is elected to do just that.
    Well, I would not chastise or deride President Mahama for delivering infrastructural projects. The issues that relate to are about the extreme high cost of the delivery of these projects and the suspicion of corruption embedded in this project costs. Talk about them -- road construction, school blocks, potable water, airport facilities, payment of judgement debts.
    Mr Speaker, the President, in his own State of the Nation Address in 2015, admitted that he needed to tackle waste and corrupt practices. And I refer to paragraph 886 of his own presentation. So, the President admits that there is a lot of wastage and corruption in the system. That is what we are talking about.
    Mr Speaker, the end does not in any way justifies the means. As a nation, we demand value for money in these projects
    and programmes, the cost of which has escalated between four and five times since the past seven years.
    Mr Speaker, in the final analysis, I conclude and we ask the same questions as we asked last year; does the 2016 Budget ensure that the national economy and the resources available to us as a nation are well managed? The answer is, no.
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader, your time is up -- forty-five minutes. Conclude.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, in a minute, I will wind up.
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader, you know -- Let us have order.
    My attitude is that we should give the Hon Minority Leader enough time to say what he wants to say and I think that I have given you enough. So, please, conclude. Your last sentence.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:15 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I wanted to traverse the course and raise the critical issues that the people of this country must be looking at but given what you are directing, I will comply.
    But the people of this country are urged in the strongest terms to observe the very abysmal performance of this Government and match these against the catalogue of broken promises. In 2016, the catch phrase as in 2000 should and would be, hwew'asetena mu na to aba pa. To wit, evaluate your personal circumstances and vote very wisely.
    Mr Speaker 1:15 p.m.
    Hon Majority Leader?
    Majority Leader (Mr Alban S. K. Bagbin) 1:45 p.m.
    Thank you very much Mr Speaker.

    Mr Speaker, I have listened carefully to the Hon Minister for Finance and read the Budget Statement and Economic Policy of the Government of Ghana for the 2016 financial year. I have also listened to and read some of the contributions of my Hon Colleagues from the Minority Caucus, particularly the submissions just made by the Hon Minority Leader. Bob Marley said;

    “There's a natural mystic blowing through the air;

    If you listen carefully now you will hear.”

    Mr Speaker, if a person decides that he would not be comfortable, you can never make the person comfortable. We know that throughout the seven years of the NDC regime, no Member of Parliament has been arrested and detained in the Bureau of National Investigations (BNI) cells for whispering. [Hear! Hear!] the Hon Member was talking about good governance. [Interruptions]

    Throughout the seven years of the NDC regime, we have not sold any state asset as save our souls (SOS) to save the economy from collapsing. I will go through some of the items and let Ghanaians understand what the purpose of budgeting is.

    To assist in the national debate of this budget, and to recommend for approval of this House, I want to remind my Hon Colleagues, particularly those opposite, of the compelling environment in which this policy was crafted. I am saying this because my Hon Colleagues have been in Government before and they should know, they ought to know and I know they know that the budget of this country is governed by a number of compelling Instruments, Agreements, Protocols and others.

    If it was somebody from People's National Convention (PNC) or Convention People's Party (CPP) talking, I might sympathise with him because for a long time, they have not been in government, but not NPP.

    Mr Speaker, my Hon Colleagues should bear in mind that the 2016 Budget is greatly influenced by the following authorities and binding documents -- the 15 year Millennium Development Goals. and the nexus in 2016 to the Sustainable Development Goals -- The African Union Agenda 2063, popularly referred to as “the “Africa We Want” and its first 10 year implementation plan and financing mechanism. Also, the 1992 Constitution and they know very well of Chapter 6.

    This House received the Coordinated Programme of Economic and Social

    Development Policies, 2014 to 2020 and we also received the Ghana Shared Growth and Development Agenda Phase 2 -- 2014 to 2017 and being in the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) sub region, we know the documents, Agreements and Protocols we have signed into as a country.

    We received here the State of the Nation Address by His Excellency the President. We are all aware of the Senchi Consensus and the resultant home grown policy -- the Ho and Takoradi Social Partners deliberations, the Tripartite Committee Minimum Wage and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Extended Credit Facility Programme. We are aware of all those things.

    It has been quoted many times by even the one sitting restlessly on his chair and trying to heckle. I also want to urge my Hon Colleagues, that in taking the decision to approve the 2016 Financial Policy, they should not to be persuaded by all the comparative analyses of economic indicators of our performance as a country after 2010 with that of the periods before 2006; the reason being the rebasing of our economy.

    It is like comparing the growth rate of Ghana's economy with that of the United States of America (USA). The USA's economy has grown by approximately 2.1 per cent this year while we have we our economy growing at 4.1 per cent. Does that mean that have done better than the USA's economy? That is why those comparisons must not be taken serious when debating the budget because of the sizes of the economies.

    Mr Speaker, in the 2013 State of the Nation Address, His Excellency President Mahama, made it clear that the future he

    envisioned for our country is “a stable, united” and I am emphasising “united” - “inclusive” I am ephasising “inclusive” -- “and prosperous country with opportunities for all.”

    To achieve this, the President submitted to this House the coordinated programme of the economic and social development policies covering the remaining six years of his term of office -- [Hear! Hear!]-- This six year coordinated programme is further divided into two phases. The framework of the first phase has been laid in this House, titled -- “Ghana Shared Growth and Development Agenda Phase II”.

    The National Democratic Congress (NDC) Government, has been committed since 2014, to building a sustainable prosperous and equitable society over the medium term. What anchors these are stated in that programme, are four thematic areas which we all know. In analysing the Budget Statement, I would go through these thematic areas; one, putting people first; two, building a strong and resilient economy; three, expanding infrastructure and four, ensuring transparency and accountable governance.

    Mr Speaker, in focusing on these thematic areas, Ghana has made a lot of progress. Ghana has made progress in promoting fiscal discipline, enhanced domestic revenue mobilisation. Ghana has developed prudent public expenditure management systems, such as the electronic salary payment voucher, and e- Pay slip to control payroll cost.

    We have also improved debt mana- gement and generally enhanced the quality of life of the Ghanaian, hence the theme of the budget -- “Consolidating Progress towards a Brighter Medium Term”.
    Majority Leader (Mr Alban S. K. Bagbin) 1:55 p.m.


    Mr Speaker, I would want to tell my Hon Colleagues what I meant by “generally enhance the quality of life of the Ghanaians”, and I am going to use a number of sectorial performances to illustrate this.

    Mr Speaker, two years later, precisely in June 2105, at the 39th Session of the conference of the UNFAO, Ghana was among the 12 countries which also met the more ambitious target of the World Food Summit of numerically halving the under nourished people in Ghana. -- [Hear! Hear!] -- Our own Hon Colleague, Dr AlhassanYakubu, was in Rome to receive the citation on behalf of His Excellency the President John DramaniMahama.

    Mr Speaker, in 2008, life expectancy in Ghana, was 58 years. Through our collective effort, we have increase life expectancy in Ghana to 64 years. [Interruptions] The age for women is 64 years, and that of men is 63 years; and the average -- because of the population, is

    Mr Speaker, all what I am saying is that, the quality of life of a Ghanaian has been enhanced by our collective effort.

    Mr Speaker, I believe in what His Excellency ex- President Kufuor said a few years ago; “Ghanaians know the cost of everything but they never know the value of anything”.

    Mr Speaker, yes, we borrowed, but I am going to just mention a few of the water projects and how that have benefitted Ghanaians including my Hon Colleagues opposite.

    Mr Speaker, we borrowed to implement water projects throughout the country, and I have given you with percentage coverage now, so that in every 100 Ghanaians , 76 of them have access to clean portable water.

    Mr Speaker, we borrowed and implemented the Mampong Water Supply Project, Five Towns Water Supply Project and that covered places like Osonoase, Kibi, which traditionally is called Kyebi. I was in Akyem Chambers and I was doing cases for them.

    Mr Speaker, in Accra today, we do not hear of the cries of Adentan, Teshie, Madina and the rest — [Hear! Hear!]— And we do not see people now carrying “Kufuor gallons” all over the country — [Hear! Hear!].

    Mr Speaker, my Hon Colleagues could go to the Ghana Energy Development and Access Project and they will see these figures there. These are calculated by a system developed by the Centre for Remote Sensing and Geographical Information Services (CERGIS) for the Electricity Company of Ghana (ECG). It is there. So, one can go there and have access to them.

    Mr Speaker, it saddens me when I hear people talk about “dumsor” without remorse. Why do I say that? Some people claim that they took us out of Highly Indebted Poor Country (HIPC) to a low middle income country. Is that is the growth? How was the growth of the energy sector during that period? If it is true that there was that growth, and I have no reason to doubt it, then we will definitely have problems with the energy sector and that is what we are experiencing now. I expect that we should rather work together to solve it than people trying to rather make political capital out of it — Mr Speaker, they were there for eight years and they added zero.

    Mr Speaker, let me move to other areas, so that my Hon Colleagues will appreciate

    what this Government has done so far and why we do budgeting.

    We have also achieved quality improvement in education — [Hear! Hear!]—Even gender parity has been achieved in basic schools, and one can see it in paragraphs 646 and 647 of the Budget Statement.

    Ghana has also achieved the Millennium Development Goals for Universal Primary Education and under 5 mortality — [Hear! Hear!]— These are all stated in the Budget Statement. Now, if this is not good, I do not know what else --

    Mr Speaker, for the first time in the history of this country, Government was able to lead and facilitate the Public Sector Joint Negotiating Committee to agree on a 10 per cent salary increment across board long before the 2016 Budget Statement was prepared — [Hear! Hear!]— This enabled Government to factor the total Wage Bill into the budget, and Govern- ment has, together with stakeholders, successfully determined the long standing categories 2 and 3 allowances, and this has been long standing since

    2007.

    Mr Speaker, these are some of the successes. I do not know what else the word “success” would mean when one is managing an economy. These are all achievements that we have made through the implementation of the Medium Term Development Programme, using the instrument of annual budgeting, and that is what the 2016 budget is about.

    Mr Speaker, as a social democrat, I just want to give you a bit of what the National Democratic Congress (NDC) Government is doing to ensure equity in the sharing of development benefits, particularly the inclusion of the vulnerable and excluded.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I heard the Majority Leader saying that the benefits, at the level of committee trips — that the Minority then did not have the opportunity — if he could repeat it. Can he repeat it?—[Uproar]
    Mr Speaker 1:55 p.m.
    Order! Order!
    Hon Members, the noise will not resolve your problems. If you are not clear with a statement made by an Hon Member, you should find out from him, then we all understand and find out the exact point that he or she is making. But shouting and screaming will not resolve the issue.
    Yes, Hon Minority Leader?
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I just wanted to know if I heard the Majority Leader right, when he said that they never had the benefits that the Minority now is enjoying and that they are affording us that opportunity. I want to hear him again.
    Mr Speaker 1:55 p.m.
    Absolutely.
    Hon Majority Leader.
    Mr Bagbin 1:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, that when we were in Minority for eight years, we never got some of the benefits that my Hon Colleagues in the Minority are enjoying today when we were in Minority for eight years. We never got those benefits. I am giving them evidence of good governance. That was what I said.
    Mr Speaker, if my Hon Colleagues want me to be specific in citing some, I can do.

    Mr Speaker, as Minority Leader for eight years, I was not accommodated -- for eight years.

    Mr Speaker, these are some of the things I am just referring to but I am doing that because of the issue of good governance. [Interruptions].We are doing this because we are all together in this House and we are all working for mother Ghana. So, we are equally entitled to the resources of mother Ghana and that is why I raised it -- if the Hon Member wants, he can rebut.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 1:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Majority Leader was specific when he mentioned the benefits of trips but I think when he came explaining himself, he went off that argument.
    He also said by way of citing an example, that as a Minority Leader for eight years, he was not offered accommodation. Mr Speaker, the Hon Majority Leader knows that what he is saying is a palpable untruth with regard to accommodation. This is because he knows that the Leaders were offered accommodation. He elected to stay in his own house -- just like the Majority
    Leader at the time also elected to stay in his own house.
    Mr Speaker, I was the Chief Whip and I was in a facility with you when you were the Chief Whip, and the opportunity that was afforded him, he granted it to the Hon Moses Asaga at that time. So, the Majority Leader, with respect to him, will be misleading this House if he goes on this course. I would have thought that that example was most unnecessary. It was a palpable untruth; it is a palpable untruth and I guess he would refrain from that line of debate.
    Mr Bagbin 1:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I think the memory of my Hon Colleague, the Minority Leader is playing tricks with him -- yes.
    Mr Speaker, when Leadership were offered those Leadership facilities, the Hon J. H. Mensah came out with a memorandum that the Majority Leader and the Minority Leader should be given the same facilities. He contacted the then Minister for Works and Housing, Hon Kwamena Bartels who -- [Uproar] -- who said -- [Interruption]
    Mr Speaker, the then Minister for Works and Housing, Hon Kwamena Bartels approached me and pleaded with me to allow Hon Moses Asaga to take over that premises -- At that time, Hon Moses Asaga was a Deputy Minister for Finance -- [Interruptions] -- and he was -- [Interruptions] -- You want the facts, so, keep quiet. [Pause]
    The Hon Moses Asaga was occupying a government bungalow at Roman Ridge. I was offered to take that one, so that he could occupy the Leadership premises. That was what happened; and Mr Speaker, this was argued with the then
    Minister, Kwamena Bartels and they are at liberty to contact him. [Interruptions].
    After that, that premises was not given to me. It was given to another Deputy Minister and I was left to fend for myself.

    Mr Speaker, I would end my submission by referring to the country's programme in ensuring equity in the sharing of the development benefits, particularly, to the vulnerable and the excluded. Mr Speaker, we have, as a country, made great progress in our social protection efforts, particularly, as a step to ensuring sustainable development.

    Government has annually been releasing moneys to sponsor programmes and activities in fourteen key areas, most of which we know. These are moneys that are doled out to guarantee reliefs for those sections of the population who for any reason, are not able to provide for themselves.

    Mr Speaker, these are some of the achievements that the 2016 Budget Statement seeks to consolidate -- [Hear! Hear!] -- and to join the rest of the world next year, 2016, to implement the sustainable development goals (SDGs)
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    Mr Speaker 1:55 p.m.
    Hon Majority Leader, I will give you five minutes to wind up.
    Mr Bagbin 1:55 p.m.
    That is so. I will do so.
    Thank you Mr Speaker.
    The allocations to this sector is colossal in the 2016 Budget Statement and Hon Members could go through paragraph 856 - 885; there are clear indications as to what Government did in 2015 and what Government intends doing in 2016.
    Mr Bagbin 1:55 p.m.


    So, Mr Speaker, this Budget Statement is good for the people of Ghana and I would want to recommend it to the House to approve without hesitation.
    Mr Speaker 1:55 p.m.
    I now call the Hon Minister for Finance.
    Minister for Finance (Mr Seth Emmanuel Terkper) 1:55 p.m.
    Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.
    Mr Speaker, I rise to summarize and in the process, if Mr Speaker permits me, to make a few observations.
    Right after the presentation of the Budget Statement, there was what seems to be an “unsuccessful ambush” which because did not succeed, we were told that there would be an alternative Budget Statement. I note a very copious quote from that document, which in the end, was christened the NPP's response to the 2016 Budget Statement and Government Financial Policy.
    Mr Speaker, permit me to also observe that that document because it has been quoted here, has a number of inaccuracies and inconsistencies, which I would like to correct.
    As you were aware and as it has been observed by the Hon Majority Leader, we went through a rebasing exercise. In doing so, for the period 2006 onwards until about 2012, we had figures, particularly Gross Domestic Product (GDP) that are old series and new series.
    Mr Speaker, it is interesting to note that in much of the analysis that was done, the old series were used often interchangeably with the new series and thus distorting the debate. Therefore, for
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    Mr Speaker 2:25 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader?
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 2:25 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister for Finance has made a statement and he is creating a platform for himself to debate an issue that happened outside the precincts of Parliament.
    Mr Speaker, I would want us to establish the ground rules clearly. If a person makes a statement outside Parliament -- because we are debating the Budget Statement and Financial Policy of Government that he submitted here. I just would want us to be very clear in our minds. Is it allowed to do that? Respectfully, if it is allowed, we can build on that.
    Mr Speaker 2:25 p.m.
    The rule is that when you are winding up, you do not introduce what has not been said on the floor.
    If the matter has been raised on the floor, then in your winding up, you can raise it and clarify it.
    Mr Terkper 2:25 p.m.
    Thank you very much Mr Speaker.
    Mr Terkper 2:35 p.m.
    The second correction which I would like to make is in relation to debt. Mr Speaker, right on this floor, the figure of GH¢9.5 billion was quoted. That figure is often quoted without an exchange rate, but when the 2009 figure of GH¢13.2billion was used, it starts a series of GH¢1.92 to
    US$1.
    Mr Speaker, it is granted that we have a base of one and therefore, 9.5 equals to one. This is in calculating the debt stock at 2015 and this is the point the President was making; one can look at the debt stock, or look at disbursements.
    If one is looking at the debt stock, which is 99 at an exchange rate of GH¢3.8, which is an increment from GH¢1.42, at least, all or a part of the GH¢9.5 billion is in that debt stock; therefore, to keep the debt in 2008 at a constant GH¢9.5 billion is erroneous Mr Speaker -- that GH¢9.5 even at GH¢1.2 gives us something close to US$7 billion.
    If we were therefore to take that amount in the base of the 99, Mr Speaker, that is close to GH¢28 billion and it is about close to the 40 per cent even on a stock basis.
    The President's point was that, on a disbursement basis, which is therefore credible, the debt, being serviced, include approximately 41 per cent. Mr Speaker, it is only when we hold the exchange rate constantly, as has been done at GH¢1.42, which follows the principle of the value being the same, that we can keep 9.5 constant and not multiply it at GH¢3.8 when we are looking at the cumulative figure.
    Mr Speaker, the statements that have been made on the floor and in public discourse, definitely exclude the global context, which is very important. It is important because a critical observation is made on this floor and elsewhere, that the sturdy growth that was observed in
    the era of the NPP Government, which occurred without revenues from crude oil and in periods where the world was seeing the worst economic crises in decades -- Mr Speaker, first of all, the global economic crises started in 2007, and definitely, not in the decade when we observed buoyant commodity prices.
    Mr Speaker, but even if we set that aside, then in coming to 2015, one cannot ignore global crises in making one's debate. There has been silence on the fact that even as we speak, commodity prices have fallen -- gold, cocoa, which has rebound somewhat, and lately, crude oil.
    This has affected, for the first time -- even the brick countries and the European market, as well as even the United States of America's economy, which is just recovering. Mr Speaker, that is being conveniently ignored in evaluating the performance of the NDC Government.
    Mr Speaker, in West Africa, Ghana's growth rate, even at its worst point, is higher than the sub-Saharan African average. [Hear! Hear!] Mr Speaker, Ghana's growth rate at its worst point is definitely higher than the global average. Mr Speaker, Ghana's growth rate at its worst point is higher than most of the advanced countries; but we know that the structures of economies differ. Mr Speaker, this is the context that has been ignored.
    Also, for the first time, Mr Speaker, even though we have faced these crises and these challenges, the progress towards consolidation has never been reversed. On the contrary, the deficit as well as the debt -- I would return to it -- have either plateaued or kept improving. This is the context in which the Budget Statement's theme talks about the prospects for the economy -- and we would return to that.

    Mr Speaker, on the other hand, if one fast track to 2015, which is the focus, yes, we do admit that the debt has been increasing, and in 2012 it was 51.7 per cent. Mr Speaker, however, it declined to 47.4 per cent and then went up to 50 per cent in 2014. Therefore, for the first time, something is happening. As of the end of 2015, the increase in debt is 16 per cent. [Hear! Hear!] Mr Speaker, this is the first time our debt has substantially declined or tapered since the HIPC era. [Hear! Hear!]

    Mr Speaker, there is no doubt the discussion so far in the document I am referring to and in the debate on the floor do not refer to our debt management initiatives. This is because to talk about these initiatives is to prove that they are working. There are initiatives such as the Sinking Fund, which this House approved after placing a cap on the Stabilisation Fund; the on-lending policy; as well as the establishment of escrows. Yes, we do admit that they have had a slow start, but Mr Speaker, they are taking root.

    The moratorium on debts which we have discussed on the floor of this House, all are the results and that is why we are seeing the decline.

    Mr Speaker, if you take external debts -- For the first time, the external debts

    rate of increase is moving into the negatives. (Interruptions.] I can see Prof Gyan-Baffour pointing to that decline.

    Mr Speaker, the point I am making is that, the policies of the Government are beginning to work -- they are working and they would work.

    Mr Speaker, I am gratified that at least, the 1billion bond that we issued this year is no longer added to the debts and therefore, the projection is that our debts would be about 90 per cent.

    Mr Speaker, that is another proof that our re-financing policy is working. When we re-finance a debt, particularly one which is short ended, it does not increase debt. I am therefore very glad that this is no longer going to be repeated.

    Mr Speaker, indeed, another error that we need to correct, which has been pointed out by the public radio stations, is the notion that somehow, we did not meet any of the West African Monetary Zone's criteria.

    Mr Speaker, again, as has been pointed out, Ghana has met two of the criteria and it also shows a positive trend that we are moving in the right direction.

    Mr Speaker, the Hon Majority Leader already spoke about the essence of borrowing and the importance of projects. We have seen a lot of projects.

    Mr Speaker, the inconsistency in the presentation is quite obvious. While we are being accused of accumulating debts and whiles we make the efforts to show that when we borrow, we often use it for projects, we would be gracious enough to point out that in the very document I am referring to from page 22 to 27, a long list of projects, have been listed, which

    Mr Speaker, on the occasion that an attempt is made to put significant projects on public debts, we see the results. The results is the gang of six and the gang of five as well as many unfinanced projects for which we had to issue the domestic bonds to complete. I must point out that they are the debt stock base.

    Mr Speaker, but the lesson for the country is that no Government, indeed, not even the advanced countries are able to develop without borrowing. I am happy also to note that unlike the categorical statements that have been made in the past, the document refers to as a policy, a slowing down in the rate of borrowing, not an absolute stoppage of borrowing. That is what is in the document.

    Mr Speaker, therefore, it is important for us and that is a lesson for the nation, that to the extent that both advanced countries and middle-income countries -- the big countries and developing countries borrow to develop, the essence of what we have to do, is to change the way we borrow. That is more credible than a promise that we are not going to borrow.

    Mr Speaker, we do have other initiatives which in the interest of time, I would like to summarize. We have also noted, as a solution, oriented Government -- we do not look at the problem and shy away from it.

    Mr Speaker, as we have been saying, the basis for the depreciation of the cedi, is the narrow base of our exports. This is the reason we are launching the Smart Borrowing Concept, the EXIM Bank and other export-led initiatives.

    Mr Speaker, just as it had been done in the past I would urge the House to deal expeditiously with the EXIM Bill that is before this House in order to sharpen our ability to provide guarantees for exports and provide export credits.

    Mr Speaker, these are the things that make an economy healthy and we can learn from the BRICS, particularly China and Brazil about their export-led strategy.

    Mr Speaker, if there is any doubt about what I am saying, let it be clear that for the period when we got HIPC and we had borrowing space, we have had a number of EXIM Banks either promoting exports or giving us loans and when they give us loans, we have to use their goods or even their personnel.

    Therefore, the point I am making is that just as we borrowed for the Bui Dam, [Interruption] -- Let us note. I am talking about the Bui Dam. It is an export strategy
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    Mr Speaker 2:45 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader?
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 2:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, with respect, the issues that are being introduced by the Hon Minister for Finance -- he is generating a whole new debate outside the Budget Statement that he presented. If he wants to raise those matters, we can create a platform to debate that. But clearly, he is going outside the remit of the Budget Statement and introducing new matters.
    Mr Speaker 2:45 p.m.
    Hon Minister for Finance, the rule is that when you are winding up, you do not introduce new elements.
    Mr Terkper 2:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it is not new at all. As I said, the Export Net Strategy is in the Budget Statement. And as I said in the Budget Statement and in the speech, the EXIM Bill has been laid before this House. Therefore, I am speaking to matters and the rationale on initiatives because I noticed that most of the discussions do not cover the Government's initiatives.
    So, I am talking about things that are right in the Budget Statement and, which by the way, were not mentioned at all in this document.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 2:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, he talks about promoting agriculture and anchoring on giving value to our agricultural produce. Indeed, he
    mentioned cotton promotion -- Where is it in 2015 and 2016? The Hon Minister has not talked about that. He is talking about devaluation of the Chinese currency. Where is it in the Budget Statement?
    Mr Speaker, that is why I am saying that you are giving him room to introduce new matters, which are absolutely unrelated to the Budget Statement.
    Mr Terkper 2:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, with all due respect, there is a connection; let me explain it. If we develop cotton, we have to export it and the point I am making is that, to export cotton effectively, we do not currently have an effective export credit or export guarantee mechanism. I am talking about non-traditional exports -- It is there and I did mention that the targets of the EXIM Bank would be Small Medium-sized Enterprises (SMEs) that are in agro processing, and where necessary, petrochemical.
    Mr Speaker, at paragraph 988, I did state and I beg to read that 2:45 p.m.
    “Government will continue the investments in the energy and power sectors to boost power supply as the main element of establishing an industrial base, be it in agro-processing; downstream petrochemical; and other forms of light and heavy industry.”
    Mr Speaker, the leakages are there.
    Let me make another quick correction, Mr Speaker. We have heard statements about the cedi depreciating cumulatively by 200 per cent. The cedi, during the period, at end of 2008, depreciated at 42 per cent. Currently, the rate is at 62 per cent. On an annual bases, it is at 15.1 and
    15.2 per cent. This is in the Bloomberg platform.
    Mr Speaker, there is another un- fortunate statement that was made and repeated on the floor of the House. The source, again, is this very document. It is claimed that cumulatively, we have borrowed the equivalent of US$37 billion. The projected GDP of the country - is US$39 billion and so, there is no way in which we could have cumulatively alone -- and forgetting about the NPP debt stock borrowed US$37 billion. The debt stock would definitely have been more than 70 per cent. Indeed, it would be close to 100 per cent by now.
    Mr Speaker, it is important that these documents, if they are to be an effective alternative budget, are checked for accuracies, or rather inaccuracies, so that they are corrected --
    Mr Speaker 2:45 p.m.
    Hon Minister, you have done about 30 minutes. How many more minutes do you want?
    Mr Terkper 2:45 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I have barely five minutes and I would wind up.
    Mr Speaker 2:45 p.m.
    All right. I will give you the five minutes.
    Mr Terkper 2:45 p.m.
    Indeed, our total public debt stands at 13.4 or approximately US$14 billion and I think this should go for the record. That is external debt. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has often been quoted to support a lot of economic arguments. The one thing we have never heard in the debates or in the documents I am referring to, is the fact that Ghana has gone through two successful -- [Interruption]
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    Mr Speaker 2:45 p.m.
    Hon Member for Wenchi, as much as possible, it is the Leaders I am calling for today. But I will give you the floor.
    Prof Gyan-Baffour 2:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, the Hon Minister is misleading everybody. He said the total debt of this country is US$14 billion. What he is trying to do is dividing US$95 billion by the current exchange rate to get the US$14 billion.
    When they borrowed in 2010, the exchange rate was not what it is today. The exchange rate at the time, when you convert it individually, you will arrive at that US$37 billion that The Hon Minister is talking about. If we get US$14 billion today, you cannot pay for the debt -- Can he tell us that US$14 billion can pay off the debt. Is that what he is saying?
    Mr Terkper 2:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker that is precisely from my Hon Colleague, the Professor. In dealing with stock we cannot hold the exchange rate constant. The point I am making is that our stock at the end of 2015 includes debt that was also incurred. So, either you denominate the debt at the base in 2008 for all the debt or we denominate the stock at the 2015 base. That is the simple point I am making.
    Mr Speaker, for the avoidance of doubt, the US$13.4 billion I referred to is the external debt. The public debt is currently at US$24.3 billion, not US$37 billion, using the methodology that is being --
    Mr Speaker, let me end on a positive note as I have been doing. I conclude that we have made significant investment gains, which are not being mentioned.
    Mr Speaker, as the Hon Majority Leader and others have said, and particularly in relation to the power sector, besides the emergency power, we know that currently,
    the Atuabo gas plant, the source of which is the China Development Bank loan that was debated on this floor, is producing power. We also know for a fact that the Tweneboa, Enyenra and Ntomme Field Floating Production Storage and Offloading has been inaugurated, and it would set sail for the shores of Ghana, God willing.
    We also know for a fact that the special rate guarantees, which the World Bank provided are definitely going to bring the Sankofa Gas Project on stream.
    Mr Speaker, the important point I am making is that, even when one talks about debts, and looks at the prospects of the economy, since it is a debt to Gross Domestic Product (GDP) ratio, and the GDP is going to increase again between seven per cent and nine per cent, that is another factor that would lead to the control of the public debt.
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    Mr Speaker 2:55 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader, he is concluding.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 2:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it is important.
    Mr Speaker 2:55 p.m.
    Very well. Let me hear you.
    Mr Kyei-Mensah-Bonsu 2:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, it is important, because for the first time in the history of the country, after the Minister presented the budget in this House, quickly, he moved to engage the Press to have another Press Conference. This is the first time the Hon Minister is winding up and he is introducing a new debate.
    Mr Speaker, this is why I said, if he would want to create another platform to engage in a debate, we can afford that. In my opinion, it is most unfair if the Hon Minister, in winding up, taking cognisance of issues that have been raised, now decides to debate.
    Mr Speaker, he has even spoken than I have. It is about 40 minutes.
    Mr Speaker 2:55 p.m.
    Hon Minority Leader, I have been timing all of you. He started 22 minutes after 2.00 o'clock. It was when he was at the 30th minute that I asked him, how long he wanted to continue, and he said five minutes. It is now 2:58 p.m. He was then concluding at 2:57 p.m., which was within the five minutes.
    Mr Terkper 2:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, for the record, when I presented last year's budget --
    Mr Speaker 2:55 p.m.
    I thought you were concluding.
    Mr Terkper 2:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, I would conclude, but just for the record.
    When I presented the budget last year and the supplementary budgets, we actually met the Press, but we did it at the Ministry of Finance.
    In all my three budget presentations, I met them at the Information Services Department and I met them at the Ministry of Finance. It was only on this occasion -- if I knew I was going to run into an ambush, I would have sent the media to my office.
    Mr Speaker, I take the opportunity, as I was saying earlier, to thank you, the Deputy Speakers, the Leaders, the staff of Parliament who have been very supportive of the budget process, which was intense, and all Members for a very healthy debate, particularly for providing us the opportunity to clarify Govern- ment's policy.
    Mr Speaker 2:55 p.m.
    At the conclusion of the debate, I will now put the Question.
    Question put and Motion agreed to.
    Resolved:
    That this Honourable House approves the Financial Policy of the Government of Ghana for the year ending 31st December, 2016.
    Mr Speaker 2:55 p.m.
    Hon Majority Leader, is there any indication? Otherwise, I will adjourn the House.
    Mr Bagbin 2:55 p.m.
    Mr Speaker, we are at your pleasure.
    Mr Speaker 2:55 p.m.
    Very well.
    ADJOURNMENT 2:55 p.m.